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11:32 |
viklund_ |
how do you like the utf8 handling? |
11:32 |
viklund_ |
it's a pitty we can't use subst, or concatenation... |
11:32 |
viklund_ |
masak... |
11:32 |
* masak |
perks up |
11:32 |
masak |
we can't? |
11:33 |
viklund_ |
no, that's the parrot bug |
11:33 |
masak |
because of the Parrot bug? |
11:33 |
masak |
ah, ok. |
11:33 |
viklund_ |
yep |
11:33 |
masak |
but people are fixing it, right? |
11:33 |
viklund_ |
masak: yes |
11:33 |
masak |
good. |
11:33 |
viklund_ |
so I write an array to a file (because the output layer knows how to convert from latin-1 to utf8) |
11:33 |
masak |
viklund_++ |
11:34 |
masak |
that's a nice solution. |
11:34 |
masak |
hijacking the file I/O for encoding. |
11:34 |
viklund_ |
pmichaud++ called it a nasty hack in #parrot |
11:34 |
masak |
um, transcoding. |
11:34 |
masak |
well, it is. |
11:34 |
viklund_ |
it's not nasty |
11:34 |
masak |
still, probably the best we can do. |
11:34 |
masak |
very much in the spirit of the rest of the November project. :) |
11:35 |
viklund_ |
or, rather, we did nastier things with rakudo last summer |
11:35 |
viklund_ |
I want to write an IRC-bot in p6 that reports commits from github |
11:36 |
masak |
viklund_: good idea. just make it really non-intrusive. |
11:36 |
viklund_ |
smth like dalek I thought |
11:36 |
masak |
'Matt-W pushed to http://github.com/Matt-W/Form' |
11:36 |
masak |
something like that. |
11:36 |
zarah |
masak's link is also http://tinyurl.com/ndyqu5 |
11:37 |
masak |
I think individual commit messages might be a bit too verbose for all of github's Perl 6 projects. |
11:37 |
viklund_ |
anyway, now Alva and I am going out |
11:37 |
masak |
enjoy the outside! |
11:37 |
viklund_ |
/afk |
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13:29 |
lichtkind |
moin |
13:29 |
zarah |
privet lichtkind |
13:29 |
lichtkind |
hello zarah |
13:30 |
lichtkind |
viklund: why ther is fixed width |
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13:41 |
viklund |
lichtkind: fixed width? |
13:41 |
lichtkind |
viklund THE TEXTAREA of november has fixed width |
13:42 |
* viklund |
checks |
13:43 |
viklund |
lichtkind: do you have any problems with that? |
13:44 |
* viklund |
checks on his bigger screen |
13:44 |
lichtkind |
its sometimes not practicel when topic "Articles with tag "november" " needes 3 lines |
13:44 |
lichtkind |
and articles are longer then needed even if it has a stylish plus |
13:45 |
viklund |
ah, I thought you meant the <textarea>, not the central column |
13:45 |
lichtkind |
yes the column |
13:46 |
viklund |
One solution woud be to make the text smaller as well... |
13:47 |
viklund |
anyway, that's a design issue, masak is in charge of the skins, I only fix bugs in them |
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13:53 |
lichtkind |
good |
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21:30 |
lichtkind |
viklund: what excites you about perl 6 |
23:02 |
viklund |
lichtkind: everything |
23:02 |
lichtkind |
hm? |
23:02 |
viklund |
the grammar engine is high up there |
23:02 |
lichtkind |
prettymuch |
23:02 |
viklund |
uhm, gather/take is amazing |
23:03 |
lichtkind |
the new rx syntax you mean? |
23:03 |
viklund |
a real OO environment |
23:03 |
viklund |
not engine |
23:03 |
viklund |
the entire grammar system |
23:03 |
viklund |
how parsing has entered the next level with that enhancement |
23:04 |
viklund |
hypers are pretty convenient. |
23:04 |
lichtkind |
im currently starting a nov page about the p6 interpreter |
23:04 |
viklund |
oh, calling $s>>.method is cool too |
23:04 |
lichtkind |
i first dezentralize the content before writing a new welcome page |
23:04 |
viklund |
like <a b c d>>>.uc |
23:05 |
lichtkind |
you mean @s>>.method? |
23:05 |
viklund |
lichtkind: maybe you should keep the first page very much as it is for the moment |
23:05 |
viklund |
lichtkind: yes, that too |
23:11 |
lichtkind |
why hyper in $s>>.method if in $s is only one object |
23:12 |
lichtkind |
viklund no stress it will need bit time but the current welcome page has some disadvantages |
23:20 |
viklund |
my $s = <a b c d>; say $s>>.uc |
23:21 |
viklund |
or even my $s = <a b c d>; $s>>.uc>>.perl>>.say |
23:21 |
lichtkind |
f cource but thats how i understood it i thought i overlooked something |
23:21 |
lichtkind |
viklund: you werent arounf when we set some goals for the november wontent |
23:22 |
lichtkind |
better i intiate you in that plan |
23:22 |
viklund |
ahh |
23:23 |
viklund |
who are we? |
23:27 |
lichtkind |
masak mberens and i :) |
23:29 |
viklund |
ok |
23:32 |
lichtkind |
viklund: when i tried second edit this page locked http://november-wiki.org/view/Perl_6_Interpreter |
23:32 |
zarah |
lichtkind's link is also http://tinyurl.com/lz4hmw |
23:32 |
lichtkind |
Internal Server Error |
23:32 |
lichtkind |
i think my biggest challenge is now to have no preview button |
23:34 |
lichtkind |
viklund: the plan for november was to have en newbie friendly entry point into the perl 6 worl |
23:34 |
lichtkind |
where everything important is explained simply in shot sentences |
23:34 |
lichtkind |
and linked to where real action is |
23:34 |
lichtkind |
because tpf wiki is somewhat unapproiachable by beginners |
23:35 |
lichtkind |
it more data marketplace |
23:35 |
lichtkind |
for perl 6 people themself |
23:35 |
lichtkind |
i created nearly the whole perl namespace in german wikipedia |
23:36 |
lichtkind |
so i have little bit xp in something like that |
23:36 |
lichtkind |
also written 8 part perl 6 tut in german for $foo :) |
23:37 |
lichtkind |
viklund: there is another bug still present i once reported |
23:37 |
viklund |
lichtkind: did you put newlines at the end of the text again ;) |
23:37 |
lichtkind |
the link on the perl 6 tag produces^http://november-wiki.org/all?tag=perl+%20+6 |
23:37 |
zarah |
lichtkind's link is also http://tinyurl.com/l4ls3l |
23:38 |
lichtkind |
viklund it might be isnt that already fixed? |
23:38 |
lichtkind |
yes i did because this article ist finished |
23:39 |
viklund |
but it crashes if you do ;) |
23:39 |
viklund |
maybe I should add som chomping... |
23:40 |
lichtkind |
there is no reason that it crashes :) |
23:40 |
viklund |
it is |
23:40 |
lichtkind |
no good one :) |
23:40 |
viklund |
anyway, the tags are not a high priority yet |
23:40 |
lichtkind |
of course |
23:40 |
lichtkind |
are you like that goal for november? |
23:42 |
viklund |
I didn't understand your question |
23:43 |
viklund |
lichtkind: now you can end a page with newlines if you want... |
23:43 |
lichtkind |
thank you very much |
23:44 |
lichtkind |
its really fixed or workaround? |
23:45 |
viklund |
uhm, don't know really |
23:46 |
viklund |
it works now |
23:46 |
viklund |
hard to classify that onw |
23:46 |
viklund |
one* |
23:46 |
lichtkind |
viklund have i know commit bit? |
23:46 |
viklund |
no, right, what was you github id? lichtkind?? |
23:46 |
lichtkind |
yes |
23:47 |
* viklund |
fixes |
23:47 |
lichtkind |
as you see in your request tracker |
23:47 |
viklund |
yes, I remembered when I pushed enter |
23:47 |
lichtkind |
:) |
23:47 |
lichtkind |
but whats important to me |
23:47 |
lichtkind |
whats your thought for my november conent vision |
23:48 |
viklund |
fixed |
23:48 |
viklund |
none really, I just code ;) |
23:50 |
lichtkind |
i think its reasonable because rakudo is not too fast so we cant load too much text on it |
23:50 |
lichtkind |
and so you have also nice cooperation with perl 6 tpf wiki without too much doubling |
23:51 |
viklund |
its no problem having lots of text really, we cache the parsed text |
23:52 |
viklund |
it only make *edits* slow ;) |
23:52 |
viklund |
since that's when we parse |
23:54 |
lichtkind |
then preview would help :) |
23:54 |
viklund |
oh, that won't save you any time ;p |
23:54 |
viklund |
it still needs to be parsed ;) |
23:55 |
lichtkind |
no but shorten history |
23:55 |
viklund |
ah |
23:55 |
lichtkind |
i think it would help perl 6 to have a nice beginner friendly intro |
23:56 |
lichtkind |
now whenrakudo becomes really usable |
23:57 |
viklund |
probably, yes |
23:58 |
lichtkind |
so naovember can serve 2 purposes |
23:59 |
viklund |
yes |