Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #november-wiki, 2009-07-29

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10:05 masak http://labs.kraih.com/blog/2​009/07/perl-is-awesome.html
10:05 zarah masak's link is also http://tinyurl.com/ktktjx
10:08 eiro ideas for Web.pm ?
10:08 eiro :)
10:08 eiro hello world
10:08 masak eiro: not just an idea -- we're actually building our version of that one.
10:08 eiro how cool is this information!
10:10 masak eiro: checkout spec/astaire.pod in the Web.pm repo to learn more.
10:10 eiro that is: i can reuse the existing code using Mojolicious::Lite and Moose as 1st step to perl6!
10:10 masak I would send you a link, but github seems sad at the moment.
10:10 eiro is there a KiokuDB plan ?
10:10 eiro ok
10:10 masak eiro: there is not much of a DB plan at all at present. I would like to get something moving, though.
10:11 eiro ok ... but you enlighted my day! the fact that astaire is a kinda port of Mojolicious::Lite is definitly usefull
10:12 masak actually, both of these are ports of Sinatra.
10:12 eiro lol ... the ruby one ?
10:12 masak but I expect to be inspired by Mojolicious::List also, if it contains useful Perl-specific changes.
10:12 masak eiro: yes.
10:12 eiro \o/
10:13 masak welcome to 2009, where we're language-agnostic and ecumenical.
10:13 eiro yep!
10:13 eiro thanks
10:14 sri_kraih masak: our most original feature is that Mojolicious::Lite is actually based on Mojolicious, which means applications can grow to well structured MVC webapps with controllers and a separate router ;)
10:15 masak sri_kraih: that does seem intriguing.
10:16 eiro sri_kraih, what is a 'separate router' ? is it the fact that the url dispatching is independant from the framework  ?
10:16 masak sri_kraih: I want you to know that I expect to learn a lot from Mojo in general. having everything in one place seems like a good idea to me.
10:17 * eiro thought that catalyst and jifty are the 2 heavy champions of the perl webapps
10:17 sri_kraih separate router means that the actual application code lives in separate classes (controllers) while the router dispatches incoming requests to those classes
10:18 eiro ok ... thanks
10:18 sri_kraih fyi. i made catalyst and mojo :)
10:19 sri_kraih mojo is my attempt at catalyst2
10:20 eiro wow! congrats ... i was thinking about catalyst since its mooseification. Moose + KiokuDB + Catalyst seems to me the best way to write perl webapps today
10:21 eiro but i haven't tested it yet. I used CGI::Application and a hand made attempt from the koha communauty (epic fail)
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15:47 arthur-_ masak: hi
15:48 masak arthur-_: hello
15:48 masak sorry I haven't replied to your latest mail.
15:48 masak a bit hectic over here with work before vacation.
15:48 arthur-_ masak: np, i had work to do anyway
15:48 masak good.
15:49 masak anyway, my plan is to have a spec HTML renderer in place Real Soon Now.
15:49 masak possibly even today.
16:18 eiro is there a httpd abstraction in perl (as ruby rack?)
16:20 masak eiro: yes, that's what Web.pm _is_.
16:21 masak (a port of Rack)
16:22 eiro masak, not at all (as i understand it)
16:22 eiro because Web.pm uses HTTP::Daemon
16:23 masak yes, but moving away from it as any kind of default.
16:23 eiro masak, ok .. gc
16:23 masak I'm a bit conflicted over that, because I like the full-stack idea also.
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16:35 eiro http://pastebin.com/f6e71b527
16:35 eiro oops .... masak left
16:35 eiro :(
16:43 Tene ENOMASAK
16:51 eiro lol ... i quote it !
17:21 eiro sri_kraih, is it easy to replace *.epl by *.tt2 in Mojolicious::Lite
17:21 eiro ?
17:22 sri_kraih quite easy, but templates have to be in external files
17:23 eiro internal files? you mean in the tree ?
17:23 eiro ookk
17:23 eiro external
17:23 eiro sure :
17:24 eiro something to code or only parameters ?
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