Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #november-wiki, 2009-08-02

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16:14 masak greetings from Lisbon!
16:15 masak I'm writing my Web.pm presentation for YAPC::EU as we speak.
16:39 Tene :D
16:39 Tene what's the main focus of the presentation?
16:45 masak well, after a fast-paced introduction to both the Web and Perl 6, I focus on the tools developed in Web.pm already, how they fit together, the plans for the future, and how the Web.pm project is a bit like a miniature of the Perl 6 project.
16:46 Tene like Perl 6 in that one third of the project has left entirely and another third hasn't contributed in months, leaving one person to do all the work?
16:47 Tene perl6:web::jnthn:masak ?
16:47 Tene ;)
16:48 masak I'm very flattered by that summary, but I don't feel it's entirely accurate. :)
16:48 Tene Of course not.  If I started being accurate now, I'd be expected to continue being accurate in the future.
16:48 Tene :P
16:48 masak yeah, we wouldn't want that. :P
16:49 Tene you get that astaire thing together enough to demo?
16:49 masak hm, no.
16:49 masak but I might still be able to.
16:49 Tene want me to work on that?
16:50 masak oh yes!
16:50 masak please do.
16:50 Tene That is, if I get something usable, will it be useful to you in your presentation?
16:50 masak if arthur-_ turns up, please co-ordinate with him.
16:50 masak Tene: anything's useful.
16:50 arthur-_ poy
16:50 masak being able to stand on stage and say "yah, we haz dat" is useful in itself.
16:50 masak arthur-_: \o/
16:51 masak ok, so I'm going to try to get the spectest gizmo working now. that would be useful for everyone, I think.
16:51 arthur-_ for astaire, I need working basic Web::Request and Web::Response
16:51 masak arthur-_: right.
16:51 Tene Huh.  outbound HTTP is failing here again.  My ISP is made of FAIL lately.
16:51 arthur-_ can't go further without
16:51 masak arthur-_: I'll try to have a look at that today also.
16:52 Tene I thought we had those?
16:52 arthur-_ masak: cool
16:52 masak they should work.
16:52 masak I know I've used them.
16:52 masak maybe they bitrotted slightly.
16:53 masak arthur-_: I'm amazed and happy with the way you've picked up the project. sorry I haven't been around more this week to respond to your pull request.
16:53 arthur-_ masak: np, i had a lot of works
16:54 masak lucky for me. :)
16:54 arthur-_ i'm a lot more excited about doing mor mvc stuff, but as we're not there yet, astaire is a fun enough project :)
16:54 Tene arthur-_: should I know or recognize you?  have we met?
16:54 arthur-_ Tene: nope
16:54 masak indeed.
16:54 Tene Oh.  In that case, hi!
16:54 masak I will need all the help/guidance I can get on MVC, so that's good.
16:54 arthur-_ Tene: hi :)
16:55 Tene I've made the mistake of repeatedly re-introducing myself to people I should remember several times in the past. >.>
16:55 masak Tene: arthur-_ approached me a week or so ago, wanting to hack on Astaire.
16:55 arthur-_ ^^
16:57 masak Tene, arthur-_: you could have a look at spec/astaire.pod and t/spec/astaire/hello-world.t -- if you haven't already.
16:57 masak if I get the smartlinks working today, I'll likely blog about it and call that Web.pm week 12.
17:04 masak I've got them working! \o/
17:04 arthur-_ :)
17:04 masak now, that was easy :)
17:05 masak I should probably put it online on feather, so that people can come and watch.
17:08 masak I'll let you know as soon as I have something up on feather.
17:28 masak oh, oh. Tene, arthur-_: are you still there?
17:28 Tene I am.
17:28 Tene kinda.
17:28 Tene my net connectivity is horrible right now.
17:29 masak I'd like to ask you both to send me a picture of yourselves using this tool: http://www.sp-studio.de/
17:29 masak if I get them before Wednesday, I can use them in the presentation.
17:29 Tene I'll see if I can get it to load...
17:30 masak I'll send you all an email, because I need to reach ihrd anyway.
17:30 Tene why that tool?
17:30 Tene what does it do?
17:31 masak it builds pictures of people using "South Park"-inspired primitives.
17:33 Tene okay, I'll try.
17:33 masak email sent.
17:42 masak voilà: http://feather.perl6.nl/~m​asak/web-spec/Astaire.html
17:42 zarah masak's link is also http://tinyurl.com/n4ltyv
17:45 masak you'll note that a few things are cruft from the Pugs/Perl 6 spectest process that don't apply to Web.pm.
17:45 masak I'll try to remove those before blogging.
17:56 Tene masak: emailing it to you now
17:57 Tene sent
17:58 masak Tene: gracias.
17:58 masak er, "obrigado". :)
18:06 arthur-_ with or without a background ?
18:07 masak preferably without, I think.
18:08 arthur-_ okay
18:08 masak then I can cut and paste you more easily.
18:09 masak Tene: hm, I don't see an email from you. it may have gotten stuck somewhere.
18:09 Tene huh
18:10 Tene Yes, still stuck in my outbox
18:10 Tene trying to send again...
18:21 masak I don't think it worked this time either.
18:27 Tene Nope, still not.
18:28 Tene I'll let you know if I can get it out.
18:28 masak ok.
18:28 Tene or just http://pleasedieinafire.net/​~tene/tene-sp-for-masak.png
18:28 zarah Tene's link is also http://tinyurl.com/my3t9d
18:28 arthur-_ masak: sent
18:30 masak Tene: that works, thanks.
18:31 masak received, thanks!
18:31 Tene is that what you were looking for?
18:31 Tene I can provide a photograph as well if you'd like.
18:31 masak Tene: hm, the URL you gave me is a wee bit slow...
18:32 masak it still hasn't resolved.
18:32 Tene well, it *is* hosted here at my home...
18:32 masak oh, it's resolved, but it's trying to connect.
18:33 masak Tene: do you have a feather account? maybe you could scp the image there.
18:54 Tene masak: now completely offline.  will upload later from elsewhere.
18:55 masak Tene: ok. good luck.
19:06 Tene masak: um... seems like everything is working fine now.
19:06 Tene email went out
19:06 Tene scp'd to feather.
19:07 * masak haz email
19:07 Tene did you want photo too?
19:08 masak Tene: not necessarily. :) I'm perfectly happy with the image.
19:08 masak very nice :)
20:10 masak http://use.perl.org/~masak/journal/39392
20:10 zarah masak's link is also http://tinyurl.com/nxqxsw
20:41 arthur-_ web-spec => nice
20:41 masak :)
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