Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #onionsketch, 2012-06-18

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18:00 rjbs Okay!  It's 14:00, and my latest bout of Family Tech Support has just ended.
18:02 rjbs doy: I have "old business" atop the agenda template, but I don't think we had much old business to bring back up.
18:02 rjbs doy: You have been voiced. :)
18:03 doy yeah, not really anything i can remember in terms of old business
18:03 rjbs I know you got your commit bit; that was fixed during the meeting last time, and you've committed stuff since.  Yay.
18:03 rjbs Andreas said your PAUSE permissions are set, too.  Even if they weren't, this could be fixed post facto, so fine.
18:04 rjbs [rt.cpan.org #77447] was mentioned last time — Parse::CPAN::Meta and autodetection.
18:04 doy yeah, haven't looked into that
18:04 rjbs I had a brief look into things, but didn't make changes.  It seemed like you got syncing done without it, so good.
18:04 rjbs I didn't look harder because I found that I couldn't see what was using it at first, so I wouldn't be able to test it.
18:05 rjbs but it's still on my agenda, so hopefully it'll be done for 5.17.2; either way, it will be nice to fix, but doesn't block you
18:05 doy yeah, i'll hopefully be finishing the syncing tonight
18:05 doy got through all of the automatable stuff, trying to update sync-with-cpan to handle more cases at the moment
18:06 rjbs The two new core modules that some people want to get landed sometime soon were Config::Perl::V and IO::Socket::IP.  Neither of these is to go into 5.17.1
18:06 doy okay
18:06 rjbs I haven't seen gobs of black smoke from the smokers.  You?
18:06 doy only vms and win2000
18:06 doy which have been brokne for a while
18:07 rjbs Yeah.  I'm not sure that I'm seeing all the same failure from Win32, and will look into it.
18:07 rjbs but it shouldn't block the release.
18:08 rjbs okay, added those to my list
18:09 rjbs I have this message in my list from rurban: <CAHiT=DHOA=aWBfNv_KHP2Whs​qoZds6R2R8wu8o1wDYswgaypOg@mail.gmail.com>
18:10 rjbs re: things blocking working on the project he'd like to be working on;  there seems to be a good bit of contention over the issues in it, and I think I'm going to have to get a bunch of people to issue opinions, so that's not going to be blocking, either
18:10 doy yeah, i don't think there's anything specific there that should happen for .1
18:10 rjbs I need to issue a decision on perlsecret, which I will do Very Soon.  You won't be affected.
18:11 rjbs My biggest concern about 5.17.1, right now, is Module::Install.
18:11 doy what's wrong with it?
18:11 rjbs Older Module::Install (v0.36, at least) includes this construct:
18:11 doy haven't seen anything related to that
18:11 rjbs m/foo/sand-t $file
18:11 rjbs something like that
18:11 rjbs in which the 'and' has no space after the regex flags
18:11 rjbs it's been very cleverly packed
18:12 doy sigh
18:12 rjbs My count shows 116 dists on the CPAN using v0.36 of M::I
18:12 rjbs I don't know how many include/load that library, which is Module::Install::Autoinstall.
18:12 rjbs This was first reported by ANDK's BBC service.
18:12 rjbs I think we really do want to move ahead with this change, and there's no time like the present.
18:13 rjbs but there is definite breakage
18:13 rjbs Also, I'd like to figure out what did the packing of that code, because if there is a lot more "minified" Perl like that, it may also be affected.
18:13 rjbs Sample code: http://api.metacpan.org/source/BTROTT/Crypt​-DH-0.06/inc/Module/Install/AutoInstall.pm
18:14 doy why do people do that
18:14 rjbs I'm afraid I have no idea.
18:15 rjbs Anyway, this won't affect you either, unless you have maint on one of those dists. :)
18:15 doy looks like 0.36 was when audrey was maintaining it, might be worth tracking her down to ask
18:16 rjbs the code seems to come from EU::AutoInstall, but that might be hers, too; good idea
18:16 rjbs There are quite a few things up in the air for both 5.17 and the maint branches, but I think that as it turns out, none of them should affect your release of .1 this week.
18:16 rjbs Which is great, just as it should be, at least so early in the cycle.
18:17 rjbs Is there anything you think needs addressing that I've forgotten?
18:18 doy not that i can think of
18:18 doy i'll probably finish up the maintenance stuff tonight, and fork the release branch tomorrow evening
18:18 rjbs Cool.  And I believe we discussed that there'd be no code freeze, just a branch/release/merge?
18:18 doy yeah
18:19 rjbs Groovy.
18:19 rjbs Okay, well, then I've got nothing.  I don't have a time for the next #onionsketch, at which I'd like you to be.  That will be the first-half July one, with Tony C.
18:19 rjbs Tony's in .au, so times may be weird, and if you end up being unable to make it, it won't be the end of the world.
18:20 doy okay
18:20 doy i should be around
18:20 rjbs and in case I forget to say so later, thanks for doing this, and especially for patching the automation tools; less work for the next person ++
18:20 doy (:
18:20 rjbs Great.  Now, let's both go back to work. :)
18:20 doy sounds good
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