Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #onionsketch, 2012-10-19

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15:38 rjbs I'm on a boat^Wbus.
15:38 rjbs rafl: What's the word?
15:44 rafl rjbs: hi!
15:44 rafl rjbs: like a bus?
15:44 rafl right. so i think things are in good shape
15:45 rjbs Me, too.  I don't recall seeing anything particularly nasty or weird going on.
15:45 rafl i was slightly freaked out the other day, due to a file system failing on me
15:45 rafl but i didn't really lose too much and am back on track now
15:45 rjbs I had hoped to get the debugger stuff merged, but I think I need to learn on rindolf a bit harder for some answers.
15:45 rafl i'm close to pushing my "finished" release branch
15:45 rafl *nod*
15:46 rjbs Cool.  I will give it a look.
15:46 rjbs I don't recall any contentious changes or black smoke from the last month.
15:46 rafl i've watched the smoke, and i've seen nothing alarming
15:47 rafl the chances we got are pretty minimal
15:47 rafl the perldelta is kinda short
15:47 rjbs Fine with me!
15:47 rafl so yeah. as far as the actual release is concerned, it should all be good
15:47 rjbs Anything weird or troubling otherwise?  The 5.14.3 hist stuff has been picked up to blead?
15:48 rafl well.. there's still half a talk i need to write. that's troubling me, but won't impair the release itself :)
15:48 rafl 5.14.3 stuff is in blead now
15:48 rjbs :)
15:48 rafl has been for a couple of days now
15:50 rjbs WEll, great.  I think this has been a very tame month, and expected no hitches.
15:51 rjbs So I wish you luck in releasing tomorrow, and will ask you about coming by for Jesse's release next month.
15:51 Topic for #onionsketch is now The State of the Onion | 5.17.5 due October 20
15:51 rafl cool
15:51 rjbs Enjoy YAPC.  Has it begun?  Is it going awesome?
15:52 rafl actually.. isn't it gonna be Abigail's turn next month?
15:52 rjbs Yes!  Derp.
15:52 rafl good. just checking :)
15:52 rjbs I promise to look at the schedule before sending any mail.
15:52 rafl it's a pretty nice conference. the simultaneous translations are super nice!
15:53 rjbs how does that work?
15:53 rafl today's the first day of two
15:53 rafl they paid a bunch of translators and broadcast the translation
15:53 rafl whoever wants to hear it picks up a little radio thingy at the front desk
15:53 rafl and plugs his headphones in, or gets a pair of the provided ones
15:53 rafl it's quite neat
15:54 rjbs wow, that's cool
15:54 rjbs you must feel like you're in the UN
15:54 rafl and i'm surprised by the quality of the translation, given that the translators don't really know what's being talked about
15:54 Dom rjbs: at the risk of hijacking the agenda for today, did you have any thoughts on 5.12?
15:54 Dom I can do the legwork, but not for a couple of weeks
15:55 rafl oh.. i noticed one thing, though
15:55 rjbs Dom: I don't really have any thoughts on it.  I think we need to make a meta ticket and solicit input.  Sprout may have some.  I think he may have already done the picking of his change,s though.
15:55 rjbs Dom: ...I can make the meta ticket in a few minutes when I'm off the boat.
15:55 rafl pretty much every time i do a release there's a bunch of new warnings that people don't usually see
15:56 rafl like, declaring and setting variables, but not actually using them
15:56 rafl there were a bunch in last month's release that i fixed
15:56 Dom I did get as far as running through the delta between 5.12.4; perldelta is in pretty good shape already
15:56 rafl and even more of them this month, which i'm not going to fix, as i'm not sure that they actually aren't intended to be used
15:56 rafl so i was thinking about mucking around with configure a bit
15:57 rafl and making it add -Wall -Wextra to CCFLAGS if we're in a git checkout and found a gcc
15:57 rjbs rafl: How is it that people do not see them?  Or do they not pay attention to the same output that you are watching closely?
15:57 rafl not gonna do that for the release, but probably just after
15:57 rjbs Aha
15:57 rafl i wonder if that's a good idea
15:57 rafl it's very noisy for all the extensions
15:57 rafl but the actual core c code is relatively warning free, so it helps a lot there
15:58 rjbs Float it on the list, see how much objection you get, if any.  I sure as heck don't mind.
15:58 rjbs If the patch is simple, you could include it with your message to present it as fait accompli.
15:58 rafl yeah. i'll have to see
15:59 rafl usually i struggle even with the simplest Configure changes :)
15:59 rjbs My bus is landing.  It takes me about five minutes to get to the office.
15:59 rafl o/
15:59 rjbs If I see any more questions/etc here, I will pick up then.  Otherwise, good day!
15:59 rafl i think i'm good
16:08 rjbs Back.
16:08 rjbs Dom: I'll make sure we have a 5.12.5 ticket now.
16:11 rjbs Dom: https://rt.perl.org/rt3/Se​arch/Simple.html?q=5.12.5
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