Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #onionsketch, 2012-12-17

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18:59 autarch joined #onionsketch
18:59 rjbs Hello!
18:59 autarch hi
19:00 rjbs I am sorry to report that (as you may or may not be aware) work is engulfed in a huge metaphorical fire right now.
19:00 autarch sounds fun
19:00 rjbs So I am totally committed to this meeting, but will be on the not-dawdling side of dawdling today.
19:00 rjbs How's .7 going?
19:00 Topic for #onionsketch is now The State of the Onion | 5.17.7 on December 18
19:00 autarch I think it's fine
19:00 autarch there's one commit I don't entirely know how to document in perldelta
19:00 rjbs I saw your release branch, and I saw FC's huge tide of deltas.
19:01 rjbs Is that the hash one?
19:01 autarch yeah
19:01 autarch some of the changes ruz describes are described in internals-speak
19:01 rjbs If you don't get any feedback, I suggest "a number of edge cases in list assignment to hashes were corrected.  for more details see commit deadbeef"
19:01 autarch and he doesn't really explain the perf changes
19:01 rjbs (iirc, it's almost all about AASIGN)
19:01 autarch yeah, that works
19:01 autarch besides that I think perldelta is ready
19:02 rjbs I think very few people will be affected, adn if they are it will tell us how to word it for the 5180 delta when they ask questions! :)
19:02 autarch I ran the tests locally and they're good but there are failures on smokes that I don't understand, but hey, it's a blead point release
19:02 rjbs How are smokes looking?  I haven't read p5p since Thursday :(
19:02 autarch HP-UX is totally broken ;)
19:02 rjbs Tux was active on #p5p earlier.  Sounds like he's looking at it at all?
19:02 autarch yeah, some of it, at least
19:03 autarch I don't think HP-UX will get fixed for this release
19:03 rjbs There's been a decent amount of motion on things related to C strictness which seem to cause interesting failure to pop up.
19:03 rjbs I'll keep an eye on it, once my eyes are available again.  I imagine we'll get it sorted well before .8.
19:03 rjbs good to know though
19:03 autarch there's some unicode noise from the test suite that I'll try to replicate and fix if I can
19:03 rjbs huh, okay
19:04 autarch it looks like the other failures may be fixed - Tux's reports were from about 5 commits back
19:04 autarch now there's a new smoke that passes against a more recent commit
19:04 rjbs nice
19:06 rjbs So, smokes: not great, but seem actively worked on.
19:06 rjbs What contentious things landed this month?
19:07 rjbs oh, the $/ stuff, great, forgot about that
19:07 autarch lexical $_ deprecation ?
19:07 rjbs expecting nothing from it
19:07 rjbs yeah, that might cause two people to squawk
19:07 rjbs Looks like that's about it.
19:07 rjbs How did the RMG treat you so far?
19:07 autarch no problems
19:08 autarch I'm following the checklist, more or less
19:08 autarch though didn't name my branch like it tells me to, but I doubt anyone cares
19:08 rjbs autarch: Oh, we need to make note of the changes to Storable and Locale::Maketext
19:08 rjbs nobody cares :)
19:08 rjbs in the security section, we need to note:
19:08 rjbs * Storable has been given a notice reminding programmers not to trust Storable blobs from untrusted sources
19:09 rjbs * Locale::MakeText has been updated to templates from calling arbitrary code
19:09 rjbs for the latter, reference...
19:09 autarch ok
19:10 rjbs CVE-2012-6329
19:10 rjbs There was a p5p post about these changes during the month, I can't dig it up right now.  If you want, you could mine it for info.
19:10 rjbs the subject should be transparent
19:10 autarch yeah, I remember the discussion
19:11 rjbs Okay.
19:11 rjbs Apart from that, I think I have no input.  I am looking forward to the landmark 25th anniversary release. :-)
19:11 rjbs Is there anything you'd like to know or that you need me to do for you?
19:12 autarch no, I'm good so far
19:12 rjbs Great.  You know how to find me if that changes.  Otherwise, enjoy releasing perl.
19:12 autarch cool
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