Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #onionsketch, 2013-02-07

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20:00 rjbs BinGOs: Good evening!
20:01 arc hello to both of you
20:03 rjbs Hello to they whoever read this.
20:06 rjbs Well, this may be quite short.
20:06 rjbs arc: Usually, I would later on ask you:  "Anything of note come up during 5.17.8 that is of particular note for 5.17.9?"
20:06 Topic for #onionsketch is now The State of the Onion | 5.17.9 on February 20
20:07 arc i was a little surprised by the last-minute zfs-on-freebsd bug turning out to be long known, but it shouldn't present any further problems
20:07 arc everything else went smoothly
20:08 arc though my time estimate for doing perldelta was about half what it should have been, it turns out; i'll know better for next time
20:09 rjbs Perldelta is usually one of the more tedious bits, which reminds me that I *really* need to start massaging the 5.18.0 delta into shape.
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20:10 rjbs arc: I've seen some significant black smoke the last few days.  Had a look at all?
20:10 rjbs (no reason you had to, but hey) :)
20:10 arc sorry, this week has been mainly filled with other things :-(
20:11 arc i'll try and take a look at the weekend
20:11 arc as light relief from regcomp.c ;-)
20:11 rjbs no, no, as I say, was only curious
20:11 rjbs I am interested to see the regcomp thing poked at, but it sounds like you and yves may end up with dueling solutions. :)
20:12 arc … and he may yet win me over to his view of it
20:12 rjbs Okay.  Well, I will be idle here (as always) if BinGOs shows up.
20:12 rjbs The only thing I wanted to mention is that I'm hoping we can get a new required configure option in place before .9 required for EBCDIC.
20:13 arc i think that's a great idea
20:13 rjbs Like:  ./Configure -DREALLY_EBCDIC to force people to acknowledge that it's going away (Etc)
20:13 arc counts as a user-visible change, right?
20:14 arc so .9 or 5.19
20:14 rjbs Yes, but I would not scruple to put it in to 5.17.10 if needed. ;)
20:14 rjbs ALL DEADLINES ARE GUIDELINES IN THE EYES OF RJBS
20:14 rjbs but we've got two weeks, I'm not too worried
20:14 arc i concur
20:14 rjbs It won't happen this weekend; I'm out of town for the weekend.  I might even leave my laptop at the office. (!?)
20:14 rjbs but I'll be back on the internets Monday morning bright and early
20:15 rjbs Thanks for your time!  I may name-ping you if we pick up later.
20:15 arc no problem
20:16 arc i'll try and be around at least part of the time
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20:32 BinGOs rjbs: doh
20:34 rjbs Hello!
20:34 BinGOs I got detained sorry
20:34 rjbs No problem.
20:35 BinGOs all dual-life modules are sync'd
20:35 rjbs Woo!  No problems with the Pod- ones?  Last I tried, one was failing its tests via CPAN install.
20:35 rjbs I guess it worked, though?
20:36 BinGOs yeah, as usual all passed with gcc, g++ and clang before I pushed.
20:36 rjbs We still need updated Text::Soundex and File::CheckTree.  I may just ask a PAUSE admin to assign them to me.
20:36 rjbs but I'll get that done within a week
20:37 BinGOs ah yeah, deprecation, deprecation, deprecation
20:37 rjbs the changes are just version number and deprecation
20:37 rjbs With File::CheckTree out of core, my mission will be complete.
20:37 BinGOs I have an epigraph and an *updated* release announcement ready to go.
20:38 BinGOs I have 4 BSD virtual machines built ready for testing on the day.
20:39 rjbs very nice :)
20:39 BinGOs and I'll email the list to poke about getting stuff written to perldelta
20:39 rjbs Had any look at the current black smoke yourself?
20:40 BinGOs not looked at the smoke yet
20:40 rjbs Okay!
20:40 rjbs Well, you've done a number of these before, so I'm not too concerned about going over the basics.
20:40 BinGOs I think I'll need to raise a DragonflyBSD bug report as two tests fail
20:41 rjbs This should be our last release with much changing in it, apart from blocker stuff.  I will make sure to go over the blockers and so on on the list, probably Monday.
20:41 BinGOs a mean an perl RT, rather than a bug report to dbsd
20:41 rjbs (maybe tomorrow, but hard to say; as I said above, I'm out of town for the weekend)
20:41 rjbs Oh, is perl working on dbsd?  Oh, yes!  I was thinking of MirBSD.
20:41 BinGOs there is an old dfbsd ticket that can be closed though
20:41 rjbs Cool.
20:42 BinGOs t/filetest and File/Copy.t tests are failing.
20:43 BinGOs I've tried a few times to install MirBSD, but it doesn't like vbox for some reason
20:44 BinGOs MidnightBSD has been failing during install too. But I have a cunning plan to do a manual install for that.
20:44 rjbs There are a lot of BSDs, aren't there?
20:45 BinGOs I have the main 4, Open, Net, Free and Dragonfly. The other two are minor.
20:46 rjbs The other thing I mentioned above:
20:46 BinGOs EBCDIC?
20:46 rjbs Hoping to get a patch in to require -DREALLY_EBCDIC on EBCDIC platforms, and building w/o it will issue a warning about removal.
20:46 rjbs Ye.s
20:46 BinGOs okay.
20:47 BinGOs I've been getting the emails to the EBCDIC (?) mailing list
20:47 rjbs perl-mvs? k
20:47 BinGOs that's the fella.
20:47 rjbs I'm really doubting anything will come of it.
20:47 rjbs but if they can get a smoker, an active advocate or two, and some work toward things *working*...
20:48 rjbs then maybe we'll be able to keep that code around
20:48 BinGOs somebody decided it would be a really good idea if bug-IPC-Cmd@rt got subscribed to that list
20:48 rjbs ("Seems like an awful waste of code!")
20:48 rjbs haha. wth.
20:49 BinGOs https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Di​st/Display.html?Name=IPC-Cmd
20:49 rjbs oh, man, that stinks. sorry!
20:49 rjbs at least it's low volume :)
20:49 BinGOs yep!
20:49 rjbs You don't have any leverage with baud, do you?
20:50 rjbs I have also pestered him a few times about Time::Piece.
20:50 rjbs It doesn't need to leave core, but I'd like to get a non-dev version in the stable.
20:51 BinGOs Oh Matt, I have no leverage.
20:51 rjbs Okay.  I will email him again. :)
20:51 BinGOs no incriminating photos or anything
20:52 BinGOs looks like it needs some love.
20:52 rjbs Didn't know if he was a regular for beers or anything.
20:52 rjbs My understanding is that the blead version is much more portable than CPAN version.
20:52 rjbs F[@Basic/UploadToCPAN] POSTing upload for File-CheckTree-4.42.tar.gz to https://pause.perl.org/pause/authenquery
20:53 BinGOs cool.
20:53 * BinGOs reboots to Linux.
20:54 rjbs I'll upload Soundex in a moment.  Good luck with your BSDs!  I'm back to work.  Let me know if things go pear-shaped.
20:55 BinGOs back
20:55 rjbs Soundex is up too.
20:56 BinGOs I have both on my local mirror already.
20:58 rjbs \o/
20:58 BinGOs the indexes haven't been updated yet
21:00 BinGOs as soon as PAUSE catches up I'll update them in blead
21:08 rjbs Sounds good.
21:08 rjbs I believe this concludes the core module deprecations for 5.18.
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