Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #onionsketch, 2013-07-09

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14:05 rjbs bus not here yet  on phone ssh
14:05 rjbs will connect for real asap
14:05 rjbs aristotle: ^^
14:18 rjbs still waitimg
14:20 rjbs aboard and back soon
14:22 rjbs aristotle: Okay, I am here and ready to go.
14:23 rjbs aristotle: Are you here?
14:24 rjbs Ah, we'd said 10:30.  Excellent.
14:31 aristotle here
14:32 rjbs Heyo.
14:32 rjbs Okay.
14:32 aristotle so what with the laptop boogaloo, I've not had much time to look at the RMG yet
14:33 rjbs First up: old business.  I have none that needs discussing, I think.  I'll let ou know my action items from last time:
14:33 rjbs * we wanted a porting test to check CorEList against actual core contents;  I need to RT that, now that I think of it
14:34 rjbs * "undef" as upstream; still working on this
14:34 rjbs * want a policy about patchin upstream-cpan stuff inb lead; still todo
14:34 rjbs * want to clear CUSTOMIZED as much as possible from Maintainers.pl
14:34 rjbs and two RMG updates I'll check into
14:34 aristotle OK
14:34 rjbs (find list of versions at rt.perl.org and testing makerel beforehand)
14:35 aristotle holy makerel
14:35 rjbs I have our pubkey and sent it to seveas.  I have *not* heard back.
14:35 rjbs You do not yet appear in the committers list.
14:36 aristotle I don't know if I'll be able to use that pubkey. it depends on whether my data sees the light of day again
14:36 rjbs I also need to get you PAUSE permissions.
14:36 rjbs Okay.  Well, getting your account set up at all is a first step.
14:36 aristotle but I'll wait for news from the repair before moving on that
14:36 rjbs To the extent that you've looked at the RMG, did you find anything of concern, or end up with any questions?
14:40 aristotle the comment I do have so far is:
14:40 aristotle it's a peculiarity of mine that I always prefer to be given a high-level idea of where I'm headed first, then I can more easily relate the details to their place in the bigger picture. it makes the difference between getting buried under disconnected details I cannot keep track of, vs almost knowing them before I even read/hear of them
14:40 aristotle from my reading so far, my impression is the RMG doesn't have such, so I'm skim-reading to get an idea of that
14:41 rjbs The beginning of the RMG has instructions on how to build an HTML checklist from it.  Doing that, then looking at the checklist (table of contents) at the top may help as a bit of a high-level overview.
14:41 aristotle and when all done, I intend to boil it down to short synopsis "what is your job as a RM"
14:42 rjbs Cool.
14:42 aristotle that's all I have so far
14:42 rjbs Let me know if you hit any items, in your preliminary reviews, that are not clear, seem wrong, or so on.
14:43 rjbs You'll want to keep an eye, also, on any changes in status of smokers.
14:43 aristotle no worries :)
14:43 aristotle ah
14:43 rjbs http://perl5.test-smoke.org/
14:43 aristotle aha
14:43 rjbs http://perl.develop-help.com/?b=blead
14:43 rjbs and http://doc.procura.nl/smoke/index.html
14:44 rjbs they are not entirely straightforward, but the first is most.
14:44 aristotle I was just going to say, "so I have to start reading those mails now, hm", but a dashboard is much nicer
14:44 rjbs I'd like to get that dashboard somehow better for the rel. eng., but I don't know how or how we'll make it happen.  So don't hold your breath.
14:45 aristotle maybe I can think about that
14:45 aristotle we'll see
14:45 rjbs So far, we've had a number of interesting changes land in 5.19.2-to-be, but nothing has caused obvious strife.  I don't think we're expecting anything stranger for now, either.
14:45 rjbs We have a few branches (postfix deref, et al) of interest and danger, but I think they'll probably be baking for a while longer.
14:46 rjbs (const changes)
14:46 rjbs So in the meantime:
14:46 rjbs * digest the RMG
14:46 rjbs * have a go at some of the steps you can practice and throw away (makerel, corelist updates)
14:47 rjbs * keep track of the build and try to point significantly at any sudden changes in status
14:47 rjbs ...and I think that is it.
14:48 rjbs Meeting again on the 17, 18, or 19 is next, hopefully after you've had time for some of the above.
14:48 aristotle OK
14:48 aristotle so hope I :)
14:49 rjbs Would you like to pick a date now?  18th may be best for me, as I will not be commuting.
14:50 aristotle ah foo. that's a Thu, which is my office day
14:50 rjbs Friday is fine.  I mean, I'm mid-commute now, with no ill effects.
14:52 rjbs Does that work for you?  I can tell Siri to make it happen.
14:54 aristotle I was thinking whether I prefer it earlier or later, I think I'll take Fri
14:55 rjbs Cool.  Same time?
14:56 aristotle yup
14:57 rjbs So scheduled, thanks Siri.
14:58 rjbs This concludes our business.  Go forth to love and serve our repo.
14:58 rjbs and goodl uck with the laptop
14:58 aristotle thanks
14:59 aristotle chances are looking good, there was no moisture near the SSD
14:59 rjbs \o/
14:59 aristotle but of course nothing is certain
14:59 aristotle yup, I certainly rejoiced when the tech cracked it open and I saw that
15:00 rjbs "Gee," the tech added, "You don't have a five-flanged screw extractor?"
15:01 aristotle lol
15:02 aristotle he made the first move saying he couldn't give or sell me one of his
15:02 aristotle which I was going to ask
15:02 rjbs ha
15:02 rjbs I bet there's a site ending in .tw that sells them.
15:02 aristotle orders from on high, he said
15:03 aristotle oh they can be found. iFixIt sell a kit and there are resellers
15:03 aristotle is whatever this .tw is a cheaper option?
15:03 rjbs It is purely hypothetical, until proven.
15:05 aristotle err hm, OK
15:05 rjbs I just figured that if nothing else, it was the kind of thing some "we sell all kinds of bizarre parts" site would have.
15:05 rjbs Ignore me.
15:09 aristotle ah
15:10 aristotle yeah I looked around for some such
15:10 aristotle but you can just find it on Amazon and eBay if you search for "pentalobe"
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