Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #onionsketch, 2013-07-19

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14:18 Topic for #onionsketch is now The State of the Onion | 5.19.2 due on July 20
14:31 rjbs aristotle: Hello and happy Friday!
14:40 aristotle hi rjbs
14:40 aristotle just got in the door myself
14:41 aristotle I started a releng dry run yesterday
14:42 aristotle no questions so far, but I’m not through yet
14:42 aristotle smokes looked good during the week after our first onionsketch
14:43 aristotle but they seem to have taken a turn for the worse while I wasn’t looking when I got busy with work a few days ago
14:43 aristotle haven’t investigated
14:44 aristotle that’s roughly where I am
14:47 rjbs Hi, sorry, I was briefly distracted.
14:47 aristotle I’ve jotted a few notes for the “your job as a relmgr” synopsis I wanted to write. but the prose I only want to write after I’ve come out the other end of the whole job once
14:47 rjbs right
14:48 aristotle no prob, I ran a little late after all
14:48 rjbs (I regenerated my ssh key a few days ago, using 8192, and now I can't ssh to work with it.  Wondering what' sup, that's how I got distracted.)
14:48 rjbs I'm wondering if somethign weird in our sshd is limiting max keysize.
14:48 rjbs Anyway!
14:48 aristotle odd
14:48 rjbs How'd far'd your dry run go?
14:48 aristotle I haven’t run into any issues with my new keys
14:50 aristotle I’m on the Corelist stuff right now
14:50 rjbs That's what I'm most eager to hear about. :)
14:51 rjbs xdg and I were not too long ago lamenting that it's "the new perldelta"
14:51 rjbs it's currently the most drugdery, imho, but it's changed a bit over time
14:51 rjbs so I'll be interested ot hear how the dry run and actual work go
14:52 rjbs I have been working overtime lately trying to get some things done at the day job, so I have been falling behind on p5p.
14:52 rjbs If you drop me links to any worrisome smokes that you can't obviously discount, I will look at them.  Or mail the list.
14:52 rjbs but at this late date, unless we're not building on a major platform, we're pretty much okay to ship without much hesitation
14:52 rjbs At this late date within the cycle of the release of this early release.
14:55 rjbs aristotle: Do you know when you are hoping to upload?
14:57 aristotle I won’t be an early bird. what is my time window exactly?
14:58 rjbs As long as it's the 20th somewhere on the planet, nobody has a right to complain.
14:58 rjbs and if it's the 21st, the grumbling will be quiet as long as you give warning of the delay
14:59 aristotle OK
15:01 rjbs So, it sounds like you feel comfortable with what's going on.  Is that so?  Got any questions or concerns?
15:01 aristotle the plan is to finish my test run today, and do it for real tomorrow
15:01 aristotle so far I am
15:01 rjbs Tomorrow evening I will be out, so I may not be around to do testing of the release.  #p5p is always helpful, though.
15:04 aristotle if all goes well the release will be out by tomorrow evening. famous last words
15:04 aristotle your evening, that is
15:04 rjbs :)
15:04 rjbs Well, your evening is my afternoon, so hopefully I'll be around in case of issues.
15:04 rjbs and you can always tweet at me to get my attention; direct messages will page me
15:04 aristotle OK
15:05 aristotle if I’d gotten through my test run I could answer that question more definitively (re am I comfortable)
15:05 rjbs Right.  Well, let me know if you encounter difficulties in either the test or production (so to speak) run.
15:06 rjbs and let me/us know about smoke issues
15:06 rjbs until any specific problems arise, it ounds like we're good, though
15:07 aristotle ya, I don’t expect any of this to give me real trouble… open to being surprised though I am
15:08 aristotle if it does, I’ll honk
15:10 rjbs Great.  Good luck!
15:10 rjbs I will now return to dayjob, unless pinged.
15:10 aristotle oh yeah – how do I get on dromedary/camel? (are they the same machine?)
15:10 rjbs They are not
15:10 rjbs you can ssh to perl5.git.perl.org and users.$that
15:10 rjbs those are camel and dromedary respectively
15:10 rjbs dromedary is a mess right now; might not be worth using, if you have a tolerable machine
15:11 aristotle the RMG mentions them by nick but I don’t see the hostnames given explicitly anywhere
15:11 aristotle I guess that makes another thing to patch
15:11 aristotle OK
15:12 rjbs I imagine they're mentioned in perlgit, fwiw.
15:12 rjbs Yes.
15:12 rjbs A note on camel and dromedary
15:12 rjbs so you can link to that
15:13 aristotle yes
15:15 aristotle hm, trying SSH to either of them asks me for my password
15:15 aristotle looks either my pubkey or even my entire account is as yet missing
15:16 aristotle *looks like
15:16 rjbs Hmmm.  I thought that was added.
15:16 rjbs That's a big deal.
15:16 rjbs checking
15:17 aristotle camel is the one I *need* access to, right?
15:17 rjbs Dangit.
15:17 rjbs Yes.
15:21 rjbs sent that message Jul 3
15:21 rjbs I will re-send and see what we can do.
15:26 aristotle from you I’ll also need RT close permission, and a repo commit bit
15:27 rjbs Yes.  The RT bit shouldn't come up, and might be sorted already.  What's your rt.perl.org login?
15:31 aristotle it says aristotle, which is my Bitcard login. I can’t find if that is my actual ID
15:33 rjbs What's what it says after "Logged in as "?
17:09 aristotle that
17:09 aristotle i.e., aristotle
17:37 aristotle sigh. my mail to Andreas about pumpkin status bounced
17:56 aristotle but it’s the address he has listed on his CPAN profile, and that he has used at times to mail p5p
17:57 aristotle (i.e., more mail problems on my end…)

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