Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #onionsketch, 2016-02-03

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19:04 rjbs sawyer: Hi!
19:05 sawyer rjbs: hey! :)
19:07 rjbs I hope you weren't sitting here wondering where IW as for 5m, because I was just here forgetting to be here.
19:07 sawyer rjbs: no worries
19:07 rjbs Looks like exactly one year since your last release!
19:07 rjbs 2015-Feb-20.
19:07 sawyer whoa
19:07 sawyer i call that pace
19:08 sawyer i think the benefit is that this time around i keep track of changes so i know what's going on
19:08 sawyer i've refreshed the keys with Dennis, i can check with him at work tomorrow that it's okay
19:09 sawyer or i can also push a branch and delete it to verify
19:09 rjbs Either way, up to you, but be sure to do it! :)  We had to get Stevan's keys replaced on the last day, last month. :)
19:09 rjbs Fortunately, he could bug Dennis pretty directly, but...
19:10 rjbs So!
19:10 sawyer i'll verify with dennis that my key was updated
19:11 rjbs You've done this before, the basics are set up.
19:11 sawyer yup
19:11 rjbs In the last year, very little has changed in the procedure.
19:11 sawyer i want to check whether the podlators update had finished, because Craig was working on it and i remember there were additional changes to be made, but i think they were for the sake of the CPAN releases of it
19:11 sawyer i'll double check that with craig
19:12 rjbs podlators update is, I believe all done
19:12 rjbs but there might be one more commit to expect, but I think the big part is done
19:12 rjbs I think we've now had the last big change to be expected in Q1 land - not 100% sure on that, but I think so.
19:12 rjbs That's davem's stack changes, for speeding the heck out of sub calling.
19:13 sawyer that's merged right?
19:13 rjbs So, maybe you will see some breakage from that.  I doubt it.
19:13 rjbs Yeah, last 24h
19:13 sawyer there's the list of modules dave provided, those are broken
19:13 rjbs There is some chance of applying a Test2-related patch for smoking in blead for a bit, but it's not clear that this will happen.  Gotta get dealt with on list.
19:13 sawyer and the Importer?
19:14 rjbs yeah.  big task for the next month or so is to gather all the BBC reports, make sure they're marked as 5.24 blockers, and start hammering
19:14 sawyer BBC = Bleadperl Breaks CPAN ?
19:14 rjbs I think this Importer thing is not going to go foward in that way, but it needs discussion.  By virtue of needing discussion, it's probably off the table for 5.24 as "contentious."  I think Aristotle probably has the right, here.
19:14 rjbs Yes, BBc.
19:15 sawyer is there already a 5.24 blockers ticket?
19:15 rjbs should be!
19:15 sawyer also, maybe we should have (or is there?) a meta-ticket for BBC?
19:15 rjbs https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=121414
19:15 rjbs the goal was to get an automated process to attach BBC tickets to the blockers for the current release
19:15 sawyer ah thanks
19:15 rjbs this didn't happen, but I bet it could be done with a cron job
19:16 rjbs You should totes give that a look!
19:16 rjbs find all new tickets since the last check with matching subject, update their links with the RT cli...
19:16 rjbs :-)
19:16 sawyer i'll put it on my todo :)
19:16 rjbs radical
19:16 sawyer i also wanted to email p5p asking help updating the perltodo list
19:16 rjbs Okay, so perltodo....
19:17 rjbs I really want to kill it and replace it with meta tickets.
19:17 sawyer in a conversation with someone who said they're willing to look at core some more, i had no ideas on what they could start with
19:17 rjbs and then if we want, make a simple page out of those
19:17 rjbs I started this a while ago, with...
19:17 sawyer that'll work
19:17 rjbs https://rt.perl.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=116469
19:18 * sawyer writes that one down too
19:18 sawyer cool
19:18 rjbs So, consider what other groups might be useful to turn into TODOish things maybe? :)
19:19 rjbs Got other things in mind / on your list?
19:19 sawyer "groups"?
19:19 rjbs groups of tickes
19:19 sawyer oh
19:19 rjbs tickies
19:20 sawyer that's a long conversation i'm also having with neilb regarding github issue labels
19:20 sawyer it can be by technology (C, XS, etc.), it can be by level (beginner, intermediate, advanced, expert) - just too much
19:21 sawyer both are helpful for people, but because they aren't real labels in RT, you can't intersect
19:21 rjbs It's true.
19:22 sawyer i need to think about this more
19:23 rjbs Okay.  Do that, and be in touch.
19:23 sawyer :)
19:23 rjbs My door is always open to you, unless I'm tired or grumpy or on Saturdays.
19:23 sawyer but of course :)
19:23 sawyer anything else relating to the onionsketch?
19:23 rjbs Okay, so you know the drill.  As I said, it hasn't changed much.  Gone through the RMG to review yet?
19:24 sawyer yup
19:24 rjbs also might be useful to check the RMG diff since 2015-02, see if anything jumps out
19:24 sawyer i'll start working on it monday, prevent last day rush
19:24 sawyer *preventing
19:24 rjbs I don't have anything else.  Consider giving the tools a dry run, but I think we're likely to be A-OK.
19:24 sawyer sounds good to me!
19:25 rjbs Also, don't forget to start on perldelta stuff early, so you don't get stuck doing it for 2 hours at the end.  That would stink for you.
19:25 rjbs Okay!  You can find me if you need me.  Otherwise, 2 weeks!
19:25 sawyer haha yeah
19:26 sawyer it would be great not having to go through it for i don't know how many hours at the offices of a mail provider until closing time and then at a hotel in philly till 3am
19:26 sawyer i mean... for example
19:26 rjbs (-:
19:26 rjbs you know we're not at that office anymore, either
19:26 rjbs now we work in a coworking space over by vedge
19:27 sawyer whoa
19:27 sawyer i should make the release in philly more often :)
19:27 rjbs Equidistant, roughly, to V Street, their other restaurant.
19:27 rjbs went there about 2wk ago, it was great
19:27 rjbs I had a Korean-flavors seitan taco and a cocktail with arak and bourbon
19:28 sawyer haha arak
19:28 rjbs had to leave before dessert to go fix a process leak
19:28 rjbs arak and bourbon struck me as so weird that I had to get it; i worked
19:28 sawyer my favorite hummus place in tel aviv starts serving free arak after some point
19:28 rjbs nice
19:29 sawyer and then they themselves get drunk and start serving free hummus
19:29 rjbs haha
19:29 rjbs so you shoot to arrive around then?
19:29 sawyer if you only knew how large and cheap the normal dish is...
19:29 sawyer (and free fillings till you say "stop")
19:29 rjbs dag
19:31 sawyer all in due time :)
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