Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #openframeworks, 2013-08-08

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01:21 admsyn hello from Japan :D
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01:22 admsyn kylemcd: o hai
01:22 kylemcd yooooo
01:23 kikko_fr heyy
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01:23 admsyn we need someone with topic rights to update this thing ;)
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01:36 admsyn ofTheo: hey!
01:36 ofTheo hey hey! sorry for the brief hello - ios 7 beta 5 issues? :)
01:37 admsyn :C
01:37 ofTheo hope Japan is treating you well!
01:37 ofTheo very jealous
01:37 ofTheo :)
01:37 admsyn it is!
01:37 admsyn ofTheo: can you update the topic? it's getting a little out of date
01:37 ofTheo oh wow - okay, late night challenge
01:37 admsyn :)
01:38 ofTheo got to remember my irc skills
01:38 admsyn I think you should be able to do it with just /topic whatevs
01:38 ofTheo what should the topic be?
01:38 admsyn I just don't have permission
01:38 ofTheo ha - I wish
01:38 admsyn pointing to the logs _ilbot is keeping would be handy, I've had to search emails for it a few times
01:38 ofTheo ahh okay
01:38 ofTheo will give it a go
01:40 ofTheo whats the url?
01:40 ofTheo haha
01:40 admsyn vOv
01:40 admsyn http://irclog.perlgeek.de/openframeworks/
01:41 ofTheo thanks!
01:47 Topic for #openframeworks is now irc://irc.freenode.net/#openFrameworks Welcome to the openFrameworks irc channel - OF 0.8.0 is on the verge of release - logs of this channel are at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/openframeworks/
01:48 ofTheo admsyn - you should be op now
01:48 ofTheo I changed the topic though
01:48 admsyn woop
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02:17 Topic for #openframeworks is now Welcome to the openFrameworks channel - OF 0.8.0 is on the verge of release - logs are at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/openframeworks/
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03:04 kylemcd currently in here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gGrdG8zEGz4R​9ddYER_wiYnqcbsO0ua9g1ZF4TQtKl0/edit?usp=sharing
03:33 kylemcd here's a map of ycam http://goo.gl/maps/oETKt
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03:33 kylemcd i think anyone can add notes to that map
03:34 kylemcd http://piratepad.net/of-ycam-sched
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04:41 kylemcd http://tinyurl.com/ofdevycam
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05:00 bakercp @kylemcd https://github.com/bakercp/ofxSparklines some basic stream buffer analysis
05:02 somedudewithaque Hey, is there any easy way to shove an ofxXmlSettings object into another one as a tag? When I try to convert it to a string and add it in it converts the <> into &lt; &gt;, which is cool, but not for what I'm trying to do...
05:14 jvcleave somedude - you familar with CDATA?
05:17 somedudewithaque That's not quite what I want either, basically say I have settings1 with <a></a>, I want to add settings2 with <b></b> to get <a><b></b></a>
05:18 somedudewithaque I could probably do it by converting to strings and back, but if there's an easier way that'd be great
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06:18 kikko_fr @kylemcd the OpenFrameworks RSSMix http://feeds.feedburner.com/ofw-tagged
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07:19 bbuchi he folks, anybody in?
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07:29 samy_ what's up
07:29 bbuchi was wondering if the ycam folks are up..
07:38 admsyn bbuchi: hai
07:38 bbuchi hey
07:38 bbuchi you at ycam, too?
07:38 admsyn myself, kikko_fr, lmccart, bakercp and kcimc are here
07:38 bbuchi oh, you're an admin now. do I have to say "Sir"? :D
07:38 admsyn :p
07:38 admsyn I'm thinking of it more as "janitor" anyway
07:39 bbuchi hehe
07:39 admsyn topic janitor
07:39 admsyn we were just doing this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gGrdG8zEGz4​R9ddYER_wiYnqcbsO0ua9g1ZF4TQtKl0/edit#heading=h.z10y908j907c
07:39 admsyn like, we just finished and that's why nobody's been talking in here :)
07:39 bbuchi i know. it's read only (at least the link kyle mailed
07:39 admsyn yap
07:39 admsyn it's kyle only
07:40 bbuchi I'm currently commenting via email, is that ok or should i text-drop in here?
07:40 bbuchi >  it's kyle only
07:40 bbuchi in the mail he said everyone can edit ;-)
07:40 admsyn probably email's good, but I think we're gonna actually try and extract a bit of useful goals in a moment
07:40 admsyn oh wait kyle's going to make it editable
07:41 admsyn should be now
07:42 bbuchi yes, editable now
07:42 bbuchi Y no Piratepad, btw?
07:42 kylemcd everything's editable
07:42 kylemcd too many people for piratepad
07:43 kylemcd https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9​tyIRZ76JCdNzhSLUY2REFRVjA&amp;usp=sharing
07:45 bbuchi i see
07:50 bbuchi so, email or text-drop, how should I deliver comments?
08:00 bbuchi email sent
08:01 bbuchi reading Dreams currently - awesome! :-)
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08:16 bbuchi re: christoph baker's dream/comment: stackoverflow style q&a system - there's already an openframeworks tag at SO: http://stackoverflow.com/que​stions/tagged/openframeworks
08:17 bbuchi and people use it, there's so far about 2-3 questions per wekk
08:17 bbuchi *week
08:22 kikko_fr nice
08:22 admsyn bbuchi: yeah I'm subscribed to it
08:22 kikko_fr I wonder if a stackexchange would make sense
08:22 kikko_fr like http://blender.stackexchange.com/
08:23 admsyn the problem with it I find is that I get them on a daily basis, and usually someone has already answered it in a purely C++ way
08:23 kikko_fr maybe spreading resources too much isn't good
08:23 bbuchi I think we're waay too small for a sub-stackexchange section
08:24 bbuchi from what I know about the process of creating them
08:24 kikko_fr ah ok
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08:24 admsyn yeah that wouldn't fly
08:26 admsyn bbuchi: RE: No mentions of fixing bugs, bringing bug count down, stability,... we did touch on that a bit before, actually, just didn't come up in the context of the "dreams" (which was more "it'd be cool if".. type stuff)
08:26 admsyn though I guess "it'd be cool if there were less github issues" is a thing :)
08:26 bbuchi the bug things are in the context of the "road to 1.0" thing, though ;-)
08:26 admsyn ah, yes, that :)
08:26 * admsyn is just about to read it
08:27 bbuchi it would definitely be in my "dreams" thing, though
08:32 kikko_fr quick remark for the Toward 1.0 doc : Concerning animated collada in assimp, I have had good success lately with the latest Blender dae exporter
08:34 kikko_fr and concerning FBX support, not sure about the details, but Blender had to get rid of their FBX Importer for licensing reasons
08:34 kikko_fr http://wiki.blender.org/index.​php/User:Ton/Autodesk_FBX_EULA
08:35 kikko_fr they kept the exporter though
08:37 bbuchi manifesto: huh, I had to look up what DIWO means :-)
08:39 kikko_fr ^^
08:40 kikko_fr one last comment for the Assimp part of Toward 1.0, I know Satoru Higa has been working on an ofxAssimp addon based on assimp 3.0
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08:44 kelu28 Hello
08:44 kelu28 I am here because  i am a newbee on openframeworks
08:44 admsyn hi :)
08:45 kylemcd hi :)
08:45 kelu28 i work on windows with code block
08:45 kelu28 i have download openframework for gcc
08:46 kelu28 and have do installation
08:47 kelu28 but when i want to build the ofm\apps\myApps\emptyExample, it don't works
08:47 kelu28 i am french, sorry for the poor english
08:47 admsyn do you get compiler errors? if so, what are they?
08:48 kelu28 first this error: Warning: .drectve `-defaultlib:LIBCMT ' unrecognized
08:48 kelu28 Warning: .drectve `-defaultlib:LIBCMT ' unrecognized Warning: .drectve `-defaultlib:OLDNAMES ' unrecognized Warning: .drectve `-defaultlib:LIBCMT ' unrecognized Warning: .drectve `-defaultlib:OLDNAMES ' unrecognized Warning: .drectve `-defaultlib:LIBCMT ' unrecognized Warning: .drectve `-defaultlib:OLDNAMES ' unrecognized Warning: .drectve `-defaultlib:LIBCMT ' unrecognized Warning: .drectve `-defaultlib:OLDNAMES ' unrecognize
08:48 kelu28 and next the poco lib, is not agree with the building !
08:48 kelu28 ..\..\..\libs\poco\lib\win_cb\libPocoNet.a(​HTTPMessage.o):HTTPMessage.cpp:(.text+0xf): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_sj0'
08:49 kelu28 I think the poco lib is not build to be use with gcc compiler but for VC10.... but i don't know how to fix this
08:51 kelu28 I think, i have miss something during the installation....
08:51 kikko_fr @kelu28 have you followed http://www.openframeworks.cc/setup/codeblocks/ ? (pas de problème pour l'anglais, on fait comme on peut ahah)
08:52 kelu28 it is the same error than here: http://forum.openframeworks​.cc/index.php?topic=10801.0
08:54 kelu28 I have followed the  http://www.openframeworks.cc/setup/codeblocks/  tutorial.
08:54 kelu28 my compiler is mingw on c:\mingw
08:55 kelu28 but code block know this well
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08:56 kikko_fr hmm I'm on osx / xcode, and have very little experience with codeblocks, not sure I can help
08:56 admsyn yeah I'm more osx-centric too, but it sounds like a compiler mismatch for sure
08:58 kelu28 do you think the problème come from poco lib?
08:58 kelu28 or is it a other pb?
09:01 kikko_fr compiling an emptyExample from a fresh openFrameworks release zip file should work
09:02 kelu28 but it what i do
09:02 kelu28 but i have directly the error
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10:13 admsyn (╯°□°)╯︵ ƃɐl ʇǝɾ
10:14 tgfrerer awww =)
10:14 admsyn :|
10:15 admsyn ps if anyone's wanting to participate via IRC this is what we're working on now https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qtwYhhwwMqK​biXNNe5Y35Y-suI8sdz3F0nmbcHospzU/edit#heading=h.bdk8l2t1exn5
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10:22 bbuchi anonymous llamas? what the heck is going on there? google drive is funny :D
10:23 admsyn yeah it makes you a random animal if you haven't chatted :)
10:23 bbuchi hehe
10:26 SoylentGraham heh anon nyan cat
10:26 admsyn it's all fun and games until you get anonymous skunk :|
10:26 * admsyn shakes fist
10:27 SoylentGraham has there been a decision on what unit testing framework to use?
10:27 admsyn no, that's something that's going to be talked about
10:28 admsyn I don't know if oF testing is going to = unit testing, though
10:28 admsyn oh wait it says unit testing right there, doesn't it
10:29 SoylentGraham uh huh :)
10:29 * admsyn points to earlier comment about jet lag
10:29 bbuchi yeah, but it's, realistically, probably gonna be a mix between unit and functional testing
10:29 bbuchi people just often use "unit testing" to mean unit, functional, integration,... testing
10:30 SoylentGraham functional like... regression tests? execute demo app, test output/render ?
10:31 bbuchi there's no big preference I think, one guy (@diasbruno) just went ahead and started with cpptest. all the discussion is here https://github.com/openframewo​rks/openFrameworks/issues/1068
10:31 bbuchi yeah, that too. many things just have to be tested by comparing output to a "gold standard"
10:32 admsyn I recall some testing sites for web dev where you point it at your web page and it shows you screen caps of what it looks like in all the major / minor browsers out there
10:32 admsyn I wonder if something like that'd be feasible
10:33 SoylentGraham the unit testing frameworks (googletest, unittest++, cpptest) are so incredibly similar, Im still surprised they havent consolidated
10:34 admsyn testers gonna test
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15:04 InnovatorAjay Hello Mates !..
15:05 InnovatorAjay does anyone like to connect to me ..
15:10 InnovatorAjay Hello Drcode !
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17:28 timius Hi, Quick question: Can somebody point how do I draw an image only on the front face of the cube? Right now, ofImage.bind(); ofBox(...); ofImage.unbind(); binds it one all the faces.
17:32 laserpilot1 you would have to construct your own OF box out of gl rectangles or take a look at the ofbox source and see if you can separate out the faces
17:36 SoylentGraham also kinda depends on what you want on the other faces
17:37 SoylentGraham jsut untextured?
17:37 laserpilot1 yeah true
17:37 timius Yes. Untextured
17:37 timius I am able to separate out the face where I want to map the image texture
17:38 timius But I am kind of unfamiliar wiht how this mapping is done on that particular single face
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17:40 SoylentGraham the cleanest way is probably to render that one face you want (with the texture bound), then the other 5 faces without it
17:40 SoylentGraham (by copying the ofbox code and modifying it)
17:41 SoylentGraham you can keep most of the code, just change which indicies it renders
17:42 timius Thanks. I'll give it a shot
17:43 timius Also, I am not on 0.8.0, so I don't have the newly introduced primitives. Can't I just scale one of the dimensions to obtain a sort of cuboid
17:43 timius I am looking to limit the Z depth of the cube
17:43 SoylentGraham yeah call ofScale before hand
17:44 SoylentGraham (between ofPushMatrix() and ofPopMatrix() )
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17:56 timius cool. thanks
17:56 timius works
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22:31 admsyn hey bakercp
22:32 bakercp yo
22:33 bakercp do you know when YCAM opens?
22:33 bakercp @admsyn
22:48 admsyn 10 am I believe
22:49 admsyn I saw people standing around outside at that time as well
22:49 bakercp cool.  are you just hanging out @ the apartment? or is there some other cool place?
22:49 admsyn naw I am at the apartment sweating and working on things
22:50 bakercp feel free to come over to the hotel and we can work on stuff here (it's a little cooler)
22:52 admsyn not a bad idea
22:52 admsyn where's that?
22:53 bakercp uh ...
22:53 bakercp :)
22:53 bakercp hold on.
22:59 bakercp hotel new tanaka
23:00 bakercp http://goo.gl/maps/06bu1
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