Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #openframeworks, 2013-10-31

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15:05 jonbro heya
15:11 mikewesthad hi
15:18 jonbro how is it going?
15:18 mikewesthad not bad, how about yourself?
15:19 jonbro just being confused by android behaivor.
15:19 jonbro but overall ok.
15:19 jonbro because the thing mostly launches and works.
15:19 jonbro it just doesn't come back from being backgrounded
15:20 mikewesthad mostly is good.  I don't have any experience with android and oF.
15:20 mikewesthad what's the project?
15:21 jonbro http://luckyframe.co.uk/works/bad-hotel/
15:21 jonbro got it on iOS, win, and mac so far.
15:21 jonbro just need android + linux and then I think I am done.
15:21 jonbro hope I don't have to do WP or BB
15:24 mikewesthad pretty cool take on tower defense
15:25 mikewesthad I'm curious - what made you go with oF for the development?
15:25 mikewesthad Audio processing?
15:28 jonbro it is what I had been using...
15:28 jonbro what I learned how to code for on iPhone first.
15:28 jonbro not even sure what I would have used instead.
15:28 jonbro because pure data was pretty critical to this project.
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15:31 mikewesthad Ah, understood.  I'm still trying to figure out exactly how I want to use oF, so I was just interested to hear what others are using it for
15:35 mikewesthad Was the Proteus port also done in openFrameworks?
15:38 jonbro nope.
15:38 jonbro that was mono / tao (which is the c# version of sdl)
15:39 jonbro we have switched over to unity now.
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15:41 mikewestahd oops, sorry. You said mono/tao, but now you are using unity?
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16:32 jonbro oops, missed that question.
16:32 jonbro yeah proteus was mono / tao (which is what the original game used)...
16:32 jonbro we are using unity for our not porting projects.
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19:34 tmm88 greetings everyone
19:34 admsyn hello
19:35 tmm88 do yo gys have an idea if it's actally possible to integrate openframeworks binded to cinder on qartz composer or cycling 74 itter
19:35 admsyn what do you mean "binded" ?
19:35 tmm88 copled
19:35 tmm88 sorry, my keyboard is damaged
19:35 admsyn yes I know what binded means :p I mean can you be more specific? Sharing variables? Talking over OSC?
19:36 tmm88 integrating programs created with openframeworks and cinder in these environments, and making them accessible as obects or whathever
19:37 tmm88 for an instance having a qartz composer obect
19:37 tmm88 that wold be a cinder+OF program
19:37 tmm88 or a cycling 74 obect that wold be a OF+cinder thing
19:37 admsyn so you mean something like representing an ofApp as a node in a quartz composer path. with variables and stuff you can patch around?
19:37 admsyn *path -> patch
19:38 tmm88 yes indeed
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19:38 tmm88 becase that wold powerfl
19:38 tmm88 I know that vade has something
19:38 admsyn yeah you can do that, it'll definitely be easiest if you can reduce it to a MIDI or OSC interface though
19:38 tmm88 bt id didn't try it ot yet
19:38 vade yea
19:38 vade I made that
19:38 vade its on uh
19:38 vade where the fuck is it?
19:39 tmm88 where the fck it what. vade's obect.. it's on githb or something
19:39 vade no I think its on google code
19:39 vade and its out of date
19:39 tmm88 ok
19:39 vade https://code.google.com/p/ofxqcplugin/
19:40 tmm88 yeah I know
19:40 tmm88 I checked it
19:40 vade ok.
19:40 vade so
19:40 vade whats the problem then?
19:40 tmm88 bt my qestion is if wold theoretically be possible to do something like that with both itter and qartz composer acting as hosts and getting it capable of hosting  hybrids of cinde and of
19:41 tmm88 cinder sorry
19:41 vade yes, its possible
19:41 vade you have to write a shim for Jitter to interface similarly how I wrote a shim for Quartz Composer to interface to OF
19:41 vade you have to do VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY careful OpenGL state tracking
19:41 vade because OF is not written as middle ware
19:41 tmm88 the reason for that is integrating these things in Maxforlive modlar environemtns
19:41 vade Jitter and QC plugins are
19:41 vade also Jitters SDK is maybe like
19:41 vade the worst
19:41 vade ever
19:42 vade full stop
19:42 vade so good luck with that.
19:42 tmm88 ok
19:42 tmm88 so maybe I will get into qc
19:42 admsyn it might be easier to give you suggestions if you specify what it is you want to share between OF and QC, tmm88
19:42 vade exactly
19:42 vade what admsyn said
19:42 admsyn if it's just some numbers and events, you can do it over MIDI and save yourself a lot of pain
19:42 vade yea
19:42 vade you could use Syphon too
19:42 vade if you want to send video
19:43 tmm88 I know
19:43 vade but it is admittedly nicer to have one environment
19:43 tmm88 I know abot syphon
19:43 tmm88 bt my idea is to have the convinience of having these things as modles
19:43 vade So, speak in specifics then so we don't have to give you advice you already know about
19:43 tmm88 that I can, theoretically
19:43 vade ok, so theoretically https://code.google.com/p/ofxqcplugin/ gives you that.
19:44 tmm88 ok
19:44 admsyn tmm88: we're all programmers here, we need more specific words than "module", "bind" and "couple" :p
19:44 tmm88 ok
19:44 tmm88 I will bear that in mind
19:44 tmm88 and is it possible to play with of cinder hybrids with yor plgiins vade
19:44 tmm88 ?
19:45 vade I don't use cinder and don't write plugins for it, but you could port the code I imagine
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22:22 fossterer Hi! Where is this 'ofxpoint3f' in oF 008?
22:22 admsyn that sounds like something an addon created..assuming it's just (x,y,z) you can use a regular ofPoint or ofVec3f
22:23 fossterer ohh... so it's not a default of OF package? alright!
22:23 admsyn yeah anything "ofx.." comes from an addon
22:24 admsyn as opposed to "of..."
22:24 fossterer Wait.. I see this at - http://code.google.com/p/bktn/source/browse/tr​unk/addons/ofxVectorMath/src/ofxPoint3f.h?r=11
22:24 admsyn yeah, that's an addon
22:24 fossterer that ofVectorMath is now inside 'libs' as I see...
22:24 admsyn yepp
22:24 admsyn it became part of the core in 008 or a bit earlier IIRC
22:25 fossterer so once an addon now a default lib?
22:25 fossterer ohh I was  guessing it
22:25 fossterer but certain bits (like this ofxpoint3f) were left out?
22:26 admsyn if it became part of the core, then the "ofx" would have been changed to "of"
22:27 fossterer ohh.. with these discussions I am able to sense the reasoning of names you used.. :)
22:37 fossterer I'm assuming 'ofxEasyCam::place()' is substitutable with 'ofEasyCam::begin'
22:37 fossterer BTW ofVec3f is not throwing errors at least for this compile time
22:37 fossterer * in place of ofxPoint3f
22:39 admsyn yeah it should be exactly the same thing
22:39 admsyn ofVec3f <-> ofxPoint3f that is
22:40 fossterer I hope it works smooth
22:46 fossterer Well, something is working but not sure if it is the thing.. ehh? I mean QtVideoSaver addon was disabled... hence I don't see any image :D
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