Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #openframeworks, 2014-06-30

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05:15 Ray_ hi guys, i need to know how can i use my screen in a portraitmode (linux)
05:15 Ray_ using openframeworks
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05:53 dynsne has anyone here compiled openframeworks on ppc linux box?
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20:07 admsyn alright so 0.8.2 👉🎉👈
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20:23 pizthewiz Let there be 0.9.0!
20:24 pizthewiz What is the deal with the 0.8.3 milestone, I see it in GitHub but I thought 0.9.0 was up next?
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20:32 admsyn pizthewiz: I think most of the milestones are ancient and the "which one's next" hasn't been an official discussion yet
20:32 admsyn there's an IRC meeting in a week though so I could bring it up then
20:33 pizthewiz Oh bummer, I thought 0.9.0 was next
20:33 pizthewiz Guess O
20:33 admsyn I think most likely there'll be some whack-a-mole bugs for an 0.8.3 release
20:33 admsyn like the drag drop on osx
20:33 pizthewiz Er, I guess I will rebase any PRs that are sitting in 0.8.3 that have aged into merge conflicts.
20:35 admsyn ah damn :/ how many do you have?
20:36 pizthewiz Only a couple, I found a good article on rebasing so it isn't too bad.
20:38 admsyn oh alright then
20:39 admsyn I was gonna say it's probably more efficient to wait for some sort of momentum to happen before going through the work of getting it ready again
20:39 admsyn but i mean I don't make the rules, man
20:41 pizthewiz Good point, I'll probably wait for the IRC meeting and see what comes of things.
20:41 admsyn oh btw what's a good way to test that autoreleasepool change you made? I mean just looking at it it shouldn't change anything
20:41 admsyn but was there anything in particular that sort of felt iffy?
20:42 pizthewiz I just went through and tried to build a bunch of examples and poked around to see if anything exploded
20:43 pizthewiz I don't think I tried any QTKit specific ones though so that would definitely be a good idea.
20:43 admsyn actually, would be interesting to see if it interacts with that QTKit thread/memory explosion thing theo was demo-ing around eyeo time
20:44 admsyn because internally it does some black magic nonsense IIRC?
20:44 GuidovanPossum hi, speaking of broken examples, did you ever see the debug for the audio-input I posted piz?
20:44 admsyn as in, the diff between @autoreleaspool and NSAutoreleasePool
20:44 pizthewiz In theory it really shouldn't change anything right? Just that it would allow ARC?
20:44 admsyn oh what's the deal GuidovanPossum?
20:44 pizthewiz Audio input on Linux?
20:45 GuidovanPossum not a big deal, just one of the examples didn't work on linux
20:46 admsyn pizthewiz: I think the memory management contract etc remains the same but internally it does something tricky to be faster
20:46 pizthewiz @admsyn: What do you think about adding a Clang-Format style file to the repo root? It might not actually be useful for many, but at worst it might be a good way to define the syntactic expectations?
20:46 GuidovanPossum I'll see if I have the log still, but I have an old gpu, so not sure if that is the cause
20:46 admsyn but I mean if we're dealing with some undefined behaviour or something maybe it'll affect it
20:46 pizthewiz Cool, I'll dig up the issue number and give it a try.
20:46 admsyn pizthewiz: I can see that being hard to push through due to "it'll break a bunch of PRs"
20:47 pizthewiz GuidovanPossum: Hmm, you might want to launch the app from gdb and see why it is crashing.
20:47 pizthewiz Oh, I thought Clang-Format was opt-in, like one has to actively make use of it no?
20:47 admsyn oh wait I thought you meant a big whitespace change commit
20:47 admsyn yeah that'd make sense
20:48 pizthewiz Oh no way, I mean it would be nice but I was just thinking as a way moving forward to at least set some expectation.
20:48 admsyn I can see it maybe causing some friction where people start using it and blast unintentional whitespace changes into irrelevant PRs though
20:48 pizthewiz True, I was just thinking for new PRs or something
20:48 admsyn but that's nitpicky, I'd use it
20:49 pizthewiz But yeah, generally whitespace changes are really unfun to review
20:49 pizthewiz (says someone that made a bunch of whitespace changes)
20:49 admsyn haha
20:49 admsyn ok I'm gonna test that PR right now
20:49 admsyn yours w/ the autoreleasepool
20:49 pizthewiz Sweet
20:49 pizthewiz All apps have an implicit autorelease pool right?
20:50 admsyn I don't think so, hence the need to @autoreleasepool stuff whenever you do Obj-C
20:50 pizthewiz Oh weird…
20:50 admsyn I don't really know much about how GLFW does its thing though
20:51 admsyn maybe? It's been awhile since I've done anything that'd involve that TBH
20:51 pizthewiz There was one case where I found that an autorelease pool *wasn't* wrapping Obj-C messaging.
20:51 admsyn like since GLUT times
20:51 admsyn err how?
20:53 pizthewiz I left a line note, looks like ofSystemTextBoxDialog(string question, string text)
20:53 admsyn maybe a main queue thing?
20:53 * admsyn grasping at straws
20:54 pizthewiz Yeah I dunno, if it were called without a pool it would log a bunch to the console
20:54 pizthewiz Guess I could try it out quickly and find out
20:58 pizthewiz Nope, no console spamming, there must be another pool in place somewhere
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21:01 admsyn pretty sure there's an Instruments template for that
21:01 * admsyn checks
21:02 admsyn hm not one that specifically namechecks autoreleasepools as far as I can tell
21:02 admsyn anyway the PR seems good to me, testing with the vidPlayer example
21:02 admsyn just want to check w/ theo
21:02 admsyn 's thread bomb thing
21:03 GuidovanPossum ah, here's the paste from it:   http://pastebin.com/YmGAN5Ak
21:07 GuidovanPossum not a big deal just beyond what I know so far
21:08 admsyn anyone want to sneak a change into 0.8.3 real fast? :3
21:08 admsyn https://github.com/openframeworks/openFrameworks/pull/3060#issuecomment-47587305
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21:44 jedahan whats the simplest way people have found for an app to discover its own ip address?
21:46 jedahan all i found is this hacky string ip = ofxExecute("ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet ' | cut -d ' ' -f2");
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22:18 jvcleave jedahan: here is something i found/wrote a while back https://github.com/jvcleave/LocalAddressGrabber
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