Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #openframeworks, 2015-01-11

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01:23 vade now I find this todo:
01:23 vade //TODO: Allow AVF's direct to texture
01:23 pizthewi_ Ha!
01:23 pizthewi_ helpful…
01:23 * vade twitch
01:24 pizthewi_ There was some discussion about unifying the iOS and OS X AV Foundation playback / capture
01:24 pizthewi_ https://github.com/openframeworks/openFrameworks/issues/3242
01:24 pizthewi_ https://github.com/openframeworks/openFrameworks/issues/3382
01:26 vade cool
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01:26 vade I dunno, I think ive found in my experience that decoupling things rather than making lots of large abstractions has been more helpful
01:26 vade but, thats just me
01:27 * pizthewiz beginning to think wifi in10.10.2 is now worse-fi than 10.10.1
01:27 pizthewiz Worse-fi™
01:28 pizthewiz I'm not sure there is much that is really iOS or OS X specific though
01:28 pizthewiz At leas that was the case in Cinder… not that it is a great measure
01:30 vade yea I dunno. Ive found theres enough nuance sometimes between things that its easier to optimize and debug smaller abstractions than larger
01:32 * qDot_ finally did the yosemite upgrade, only somewhat regretting it at the moment.
01:37 pizthewiz vade: Very true, early abstractions can be the devil's playground.
01:41 vade yea, and now GL Profiler wont break on flush
01:42 vade i fucking hate programming so much
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01:46 dantheman vade: think of my desire for using an stream in OF like I use syphon...I just want a texture
01:46 dantheman err a stream*
01:46 vade just use Syphon and a better Video Player :P
01:47 vade im trying to figure out why the AVF player is getting
01:47 vade getTextureData(): texture has not been allocated
01:48 vade it seems to match the older QTKit usage
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01:53 vade ha,
01:53 vade 2015-01-10 20:53:29.227 emptyExampleDebug[4942:5703398] Error creating OpenGL texture -6661
01:58 vade this seems weird
01:58 vade self.playerItemVideoOutput = [[AVPlayerItemVideoOutput alloc] initWithPixelBufferAttributes:[self pixelBufferAttributes]];
01:58 vade [self.playerItemVideoOutput autorelease];
01:58 vade why would you autorelease ?
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17:27 kylemcd anyone around?
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17:33 halfdanj hey kyle, i’m around
17:33 halfdanj been working on ofDoc all day with Johan
17:34 halfdanj he has documented all of the 3d folder :)
17:34 kylemcd nice!
17:35 kylemcd which johan?
17:35 halfdanj johan who worked with Ole on the eyeliner stuff at click
17:35 kylemcd ah great
17:37 kylemcd can you get him to look at the graphics folder next? :)
17:38 kylemcd i had a thought about the documentation which is kind of crazy
17:38 kylemcd i was thinking about the search results, and how we want it to be as useful as possible
17:39 kylemcd if you look for “line” you probably want things in this order: ofLine/ofDrawLine, of SetLineWidth, ofPolyline, then things like ofPath::lineTo and ofTrueTypeFont::setLineHeight etc.
17:40 halfdanj most of graphics has been done
17:40 halfdanj you mean globals before members?
17:40 kylemcd one way to think abobut it is: first, global functions, then classes where the name matches, then members
17:40 kylemcd yeah
17:41 kylemcd that’s probably doable, and it’s not the crazy idea
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17:41 halfdanj def doable. just thinking if its the right tactics always
17:41 halfdanj i get it in this case
17:41 kylemcd the crazy idea is that we take all our methods and search the git history to find out when they first appeared in the source code :)
17:42 kylemcd it would kind of work because of the way OF has evolved
17:42 halfdanj for the search result?
17:42 kylemcd yeah
17:42 kylemcd but anyway, let’s first do something more reasonable like functions before members ;)
17:43 kylemcd this experimental approach isn’t necessarily going to produce something useful
17:43 halfdanj why should old functions be more valid then new?+
17:43 kylemcd generally because the most important things were added to OF the soonest
17:43 halfdanj but then you would not get all the new functions like ofDrawCircle :)
17:43 halfdanj i see them as quite important
17:44 kylemcd it’s true, we’d have to take deprecation into account
17:49 kylemcd halfdanj is this up to date with johan’s work http://halfdanj.github.io/ofDocGenerator/index.html
17:50 kylemcd or has he been working in his own repo
17:50 kylemcd ah nm i see his PR now
17:50 halfdanj the online version is always up to date with the official master branch
17:50 kylemcd i see
17:53 kylemcd have you checked his work briefly? it looks correct to me.
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18:20 kylemcd ofzach i’m at mex but it’s super cold here. i can only recommend coming if you have fingerless gloves.
18:20 kylemcd :)
18:20 ofzach haha I have arturos fingerless gloves
18:20 ofzach and his hat from his last trip to nyc
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19:34 halfdanj kylemcd, i’ve made some adjustments to johans docs now #3549
19:36 kylemcd aha, thank you :)
19:50 halfdanj I will soon need one of you owners to enable a webhook on openframeworks rep for travis so i can automate doc generation, right now its reacting on the ofDocGenerator repository
19:51 kylemcd i can do that
19:52 kylemcd oh, no, i can’t — i forgot one of the core changed the password and hasn’t sent it around yet
19:52 kylemcd i’ll check on that again
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19:52 kylemcd once i have access again i’ll add the hook
19:52 halfdanj great, thanks
19:53 halfdanj who is managing ofSite domain?
19:53 halfdanj would like to add a subdomain where i start to upload the docs
19:55 kylemcd that i do have access to. do you want just a subdomain, or a server too?
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19:55 halfdanj where is the ofSite hosted?
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19:56 Topic for #openframeworks is now Welcome :) Site: http://openframeworks.cc/ Logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/openframeworks/
19:56 halfdanj where is the ofSite hosted?
19:57 kylemcd rackspace. we have free virtual servers with them as part of their support of open source projects.
19:57 halfdanj then i would like to host it there, and make travis push it via ftp
19:58 halfdanj or something similair
19:59 kylemcd i’m going to make a debian 7 system for you is that ok? it’s what we’re using for a few other OF servers
20:00 halfdanj yup, all i need is a http server and something to upload to
20:00 kylemcd great
20:02 kylemcd oh actually, argh, i can create the server for you but the DNS is stil managed by theo. so i’ll put in a ticket… i.e., email him ;)
20:02 halfdanj thanks
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20:08 halfdanj kylemcd (or other people), could you have a look in the bottom part of https://openframeworks.hackpad.com/ofDoc-Roadmap-zbzAYBMMwyG and help me mark files that are internal, and should be hidden from the docs?
20:08 kylemcd absolutely
20:09 halfdanj (inheritance still work from those files)
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20:32 kylemcd i just checked and it looks good halfdanj. there are a couple i put “maybe” next to, but i think it’s actually the case they just need more documentation.
20:32 kylemcd heading out! bye for now :)
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21:11 dantheman why is the repo so big hahah
21:12 dantheman downloading to a pi is :(
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22:30 jvcleave dabtheman - master is not compiling on the RPi - working on ofAppEGLWIndows changes now
22:30 jvcleave dantheman that is
22:31 jvcleave if you are using for a project stick with 0.84
22:32 dantheman no yeah
22:32 dantheman just switching to stable
22:35 jvcleave the release zip would be much faster
22:38 dantheman oh I know
22:39 dantheman I've been compiling for a while hha
22:39 dantheman forgot my dstcc
22:39 dantheman hah
22:40 jvcleave i’ve switch to a VM and compile over SMB - liking it much better
22:41 jvcleave here’s that - you can probably set it up and compile by the time it would take OF to compile https://gist.github.com/jvcleave/8489b3ec5897eb1a26a2
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23:42 kylemcd halfdanj what is the travis hook address
23:43 halfdanj you just enable the travis hook (its predefined), and i’ll add the travis configuration later in the of rep
23:44 halfdanj you cant trigger my existing setup
23:44 kylemcd ah ok
23:45 kylemcd it asks for a “domain” but i left it empty
23:47 halfdanj mine is set to notify.travis-ci.org
23:47 halfdanj dont remember to type that
23:47 halfdanj might have
23:47 halfdanj ahhh
23:47 halfdanj go to  https://travis-ci.org/profile  instead, and do it from there
23:47 halfdanj because then travis will setup the right permissions for the api key as well
23:48 kylemcd doing it
23:50 kylemcd i flipped a switch. i think i did it.
23:51 halfdanj yup
23:51 halfdanj https://travis-ci.org/openframeworks/openFrameworks
23:51 halfdanj thanks
23:51 kylemcd great :) lmk if there are any issues
23:52 halfdanj will do
23:52 halfdanj good night… :)

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