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IRC log for #openframeworks, 2015-04-09

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01:49 Topic for #openframeworks is now Welcome :) Site: http://openframeworks.cc/ Logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/openframeworks/ Agenda: https://openframeworks.hackpad.com/IRC-Meetup-March-8-2015
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11:15 xxp hi
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17:37 admsyn there's an openframeworks slack channel thing now
17:37 admsyn if anyone's interested
17:42 pizthewiz Ahh nice, I saw Zach's mention
17:42 pizthewiz Do you happen to have invite ops?
17:43 admsyn I don't but I can just pass it on to zach, he's pretty quick on them
17:43 admsyn if you give me your email here or in DM
17:44 pizthewiz I forget if Slack has federated login or not
17:44 admsyn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
17:44 pizthewiz Kinda like how you can have multiple Apple Developer accounts tied to the same email
17:45 admsyn all the ones I'm on seem to operate like they're their own universe
17:45 pizthewiz Ahh ok, if you could be so kind as to request an invite for pizthewiz@gmail, I'd be more appreciative ;0)
17:47 admsyn done did it
17:47 jedahan admsyn
17:48 jedahan pizthewiz i just setup http://getkaiwa.com
17:48 jedahan a test instance on chat.jedahan.com
17:48 jedahan I am asking the developers how I can enable federation
17:48 pizthewiz admsyn: Thanks!
17:48 jedahan but if you want accounts just to test its similarities/limitations i'll make ones with random passwords for you
17:48 jedahan (its built on xmpp, so in theory supports federation)
17:49 pizthewiz Ahh I think I saw this
17:49 pizthewiz Funny timing since didn't Google announce they were deprecating their XMPP endpoint for their messaging service?
17:49 pizthewiz I think iMessage is based on XMPP too
17:49 admsyn jedahan: cool I could give it a go
17:51 pizthewiz Where is all the IRC love going? ;0)
17:52 * admsyn still prefers IRC
17:55 admsyn pizthewiz: you should be in now
17:57 pizthewiz Whoo hoo, communication tools galore
17:57 jedahan pizthewiz the main two benefits I see of slack/kaiwa/etc : 1. 'automagic' logging for everyone with history 2. just need a web browser 3. Can be federated
17:57 jedahan <3 irc though
17:58 jedahan I kept irc up during my talk at a symposium, to give people a sense of what developers do to chat
18:07 pizthewiz Yeah, I do like the logging / offline aspects of Slack
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20:05 admsyn vade: RE https://twitter.com/_vade/status/586256631337525249 I feel like there's got to be a way to do that with an Accelerate call
20:05 admsyn if you have to loop through everything at all
20:05 vade base address doesnt work
20:05 vade it used to , just reference the base address
20:06 admsyn as in it doesn't work on the CVPixelBuffer end or OpenCV?
20:06 vade id like to avoid the loop, and older example code does base address locking and by reference
20:06 vade openCV
20:06 vade base address 100% works on pixel buffer
20:06 vade im using OpenCV 3.0 beta
20:06 admsyn yeah was gonna say
20:06 admsyn ok yeah weird, sorry I can't help then
20:07 vade yea, if base address didnt work the problem lays elsewhere.
20:07 admsyn I can't believe they'd get rid a way to just refer to external memory
20:07 admsyn simply, that is
20:07 vade Yea, Im sure its there
20:07 vade I just uh
20:07 vade a) such at C__
20:07 vade hahaha
20:07 vade c++
20:07 vade suck
20:07 vade fucking christ
20:07 admsyn ha
20:08 vade and b) am not super familiar with OpenCV to be perfectly honest
20:08 vade at least not the lower level API
20:08 admsyn I don't quite get what that cast is doing, just dropping the alpha component?
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20:08 admsyn yeah anyway not sure then, I should check out the 3.0 business
20:09 vade no idea whats fundamentally different, just figured this doesnt have any dependencies so i should use the latest
20:09 admsyn base address doesn't work as in it crashes?
20:09 vade no
20:10 vade as in the cv::Mat isnt populated with data
20:22 vade Oh. I am a fucking asshole
20:22 vade it totally works with base address. I had another subtle bug elsewhere
20:22 vade i suck, ha
20:25 admsyn well at least the world is right again
20:27 vade yea
20:27 vade its true :)
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21:47 admsyn oh no
21:47 admsyn you guys
21:47 admsyn OFPlugin doesn't work on Xcode 6.3
21:47 admsyn it's happening
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22:07 pizthewiz Weird, what is getting tripped up?
22:07 admsyn I think everything referring to Xcode3Project came out
22:07 admsyn which makes sense of course
22:07 pizthewiz Heh
22:08 admsyn so the drill-down process here is getting tripped up https://github.com/admsyn/OFPlugin/blob/master/OFPlugin/OFPlugin.m#L230-L235
22:08 pizthewiz How does it do this exactly, Xcode private frameworks?
22:09 pizthewiz It doesn't do UI scripting right?
22:09 admsyn no it's just calling stuff from the private frameworks
22:09 admsyn I added this https://github.com/admsyn/OFPlugin/blob/master/OFPlugin/NSObject%2BOFPluginXcodePrivateMethods.h
22:09 admsyn and then all the symbols come from class-dump on the private frameworks
22:09 pizthewiz Ahh right, did you have to classdump it?
22:09 admsyn yep
22:10 pizthewiz Gotcha so the private framework APIs changed
22:10 admsyn that's it
22:10 admsyn I've been moving bits and pieces over from Xcode3Whatever to PBXWhatever so it should be ok
22:10 admsyn just need to finish the transition
22:10 pizthewiz Wouldn't other Xcode plug-ins hit this like the stuff Alcatraz makes available?
22:10 admsyn I don't think many of them actually go as deep as OFPlugin does tbh
22:11 admsyn or at least many of the ones I saw
22:11 admsyn or maybe s/deep/unsafe/
22:11 pizthewiz Heheh
22:14 pizthewiz Interesting, you aren't even using a bazillion symbols
22:14 admsyn for the most part things make sense if you've Cocoa'd enough
22:14 admsyn e.g. what's obviously supposed to be an NSArray, NSDictionary, etc
22:15 pizthewiz Looks like this one gen'd the entire IDEFoundation.framework and IDEKit.framework: https://github.com/alloy/AxeMode/tree/master/XcodeHeaders
22:15 admsyn everything's just id as far as class-dump is concerned
22:15 admsyn yeah I've got my own workflow for that :)
22:15 admsyn class-dump and ack all over the place here
22:16 pizthewiz No easy way to diff and see which symbols you lost?
22:16 admsyn I'm just assuming everything Xcode3 is gone, which seems to be the case
22:16 admsyn but yeah I guess it'd be smart to actually verify it
22:20 pizthewiz Ack, so your whole `container` object
22:20 pizthewiz Seems like a bit of work
22:21 admsyn it's just a means to access the PBXProject really. I think what I inadvertently did in the first place was use two parallel streams of functionality based on whatever I found first when rooting around
22:21 admsyn because PBXWhatever and Xcode3Whatever seem to interop pretty smoothly, but Xcode3Whatever always seemed easier to puzzle out
22:28 admsyn also lol at functions like "- (void)_workaround8217584;"
22:28 pizthewiz Thats interesting, radar numbers in method names
22:29 admsyn yeah
22:30 pizthewiz Kinda weird, I wonder if that ties into the OS maintained list of exceptional cases
22:30 admsyn not sure what you mean?
22:30 pizthewiz Checkfix or something?
22:31 pizthewiz The OS has a list of exceptional cases in apps that it can workaround
22:31 admsyn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
22:31 pizthewiz Like if Photoshop was misusing some API and was relying on broken behavior
22:31 admsyn ah
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