Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #openframeworks, 2015-07-16

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00:22 kritzikratzi qDot_: whats the problem with wtfpl?
00:22 kritzikratzi on the libav vs libavcodec front: this is a short and interresting read http://blog.pkh.me/p/13-the-​ffmpeg-libav-situation.html
00:23 qDot_ kritzikratzi: In any case where a license actually becomes a legal problem, you want a license that is clear and verified.
00:23 qDot_ kritzikratzi: WTFPL is basically Public Domain, which is neither of those.
00:24 qDot_ Though honestly, most OF applications aren't property in like, corporate deals or anything either, heh.
00:26 kritzikratzi qDot_: i don’t really see how wtfpl could be anymore clear. one direct consequence is, that it allows you to apply any license you want to the code in question.
00:26 kritzikratzi i haven’t thought about it too much though, i discovered it a while back and it seemed easy enough.
00:27 kritzikratzi gonna read up on it a bit tomorrow, tonight i’m gonna try to find out more about that libav vs libavcodec dispute. it’s fascinating…
00:29 qDot_ kritzikratzi: It's ambiguous due to the word "whatever".
00:30 qDot_ kritzikratzi: But this is getting into violently boring legalese. Honestly, if anyone uses your software and needs better than WTFPL, they should know to contact you for a better defined license.
00:30 qDot_ At least, uses your software in  a situation that's legally testable.
00:31 qDot_ Still waiting for creative code to blow up on that front some year.
00:31 kritzikratzi qDot_: have you looked into the correctness of OF on the licensing front? or … has anyone?
00:32 kritzikratzi all i know is they use mostly bsd/mit, and some lgpl (fmodex?)
00:33 qDot_ No, I have other ways I'd like to spend my free time. Like doing literally anything else. :)
00:35 kritzikratzi haha
00:37 kritzikratzi btw., the fsf lists wtfpl as free-software license (in their „free“ sense) and as a compatible with the gpl. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html
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00:57 GuidovanPossum my favorite license:   "THE BEER-WARE LICENSE" (Revision 42)
00:58 GuidovanPossum because it took 41 one failed previous attempts to get beerware just right
01:00 GuidovanPossum and hi kritz! I'll try and run a linux compile of your code a bit later this evening
01:07 kritzikratzi :)
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01:48 Topic for #openframeworks is now Welcome :) Site: http://openframeworks.cc/ Logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/openframeworks/
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02:26 kritzikratzi qDot_: hi. kept reading some more, i think chrome is using ffmpeg (libavcodec), not libav. https://www.chromium.org/audio-video
02:27 kritzikratzi also this is quite recent and highlights a lot of the differences (from ffmpegs point of view): https://wiki.debian.org/De​bate/libav-provider/ffmpeg
02:28 kritzikratzi ok, gonna stop link-spamming you now :)
02:28 kritzikratzi the history of this could easily fill a book
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05:19 qDot_ Man that page would've been super helpful like a month ago when I was digging through the chromium repo. :|
05:20 qDot_ And yeah. If you like that story and haven't read the history of emacs forks yet, check that out too. It's action packed.
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