Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #openframeworks, 2015-07-31

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16:32 vok` Hi, I'm trying to use oF from the github master.
16:32 vok` I followed the setup guide for my system (Linux), but I've noticed that there's no make files in any example folders or any codeblocks projects and workspaces.
16:32 vok` I'm not sure what I've done wrong.
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18:26 vok` Hi, I noticed that there are no make files or codeblocks files in the github master.
18:31 vok` Is there something I have to do to build that stuff?
18:31 vok` I'm on Linux (Ubuntu).
18:36 vok` I've found that copying the makefiles and codeblocks files from the latest codeblocks/linux distribution works with the github master.
18:40 pizthewiz For the examples?
18:44 vok` pizthewiz, yeah.
18:44 vok` pizthewiz, I figured it out, though.
18:44 vok` pizthewiz, I just used the provided template.
18:44 vok` I didn't know about them before, heh.
18:44 pizthewiz The nightly builds downloadable from openframeworks.cc also should include the full makefiles and project files
18:45 vok` Oh ok, thanks!
18:45 pizthewiz I believe the idea is that the git project doesn't include them and there is some magical script which generates them
18:45 pizthewiz But this question comes up constantly and really is confusing for those cloning from git, so I'm not a fan of the existing behavior
18:46 pizthewiz The repo has a zillion MBs of binaries as it is, what is the harm of a couple MB of project files ;0)
18:46 vok` pizthewiz, do you know what the script is called?
18:47 pizthewiz I don't recall offhand, perhaps something in scripts/dev ?
18:47 vok` Thanks, I almost looked there. Ha.
18:49 pizthewiz If I recall correctly, the README mentions it, but I couldn't say
18:49 pizthewiz Even still, the existing behavior is confusing
18:51 admsyn quite
18:52 pizthewiz vok`: Oh wait, the README says "This GitHub repository has no project files for the different examples. They are generated automatically for each release using a tool in apps/devApps/projectGenerator/." so don't look in scripts/dev/ !
18:56 vok` Ah ok.
18:56 vok` I was just about to run one of those scripts.
18:57 vok` Hmm, there is no such directory.
18:57 admsyn yes the pg was just integrated into OF itself, whereas that repo was a submodule before
18:58 admsyn this is recent, I haven't really been paying attention recently
18:58 admsyn I think it's just in apps/ now
19:00 admsyn pretty sure what you're looking for is in scripts/linux/template?
19:00 vok` I'll check.
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19:01 vok` admsyn, is there a script that copies them out?
19:01 admsyn that's effectively what the project generator does
19:01 vok` admsyn, 'cause I found a solution but it was to do it manually.
19:01 admsyn while playing a little fill-in-the-blanks
19:01 vok` Oh wait.
19:02 vok` admsyn, ah yes, in my download there's nothing in the projectmanager directory.
19:02 vok` I downloaded the zip file, though.
19:02 vok` admsyn, could that be why?
19:02 admsyn the zip of github master?
19:02 vok` Yeah.
19:03 admsyn ah yeah it's a submodule, so that'd explain it
19:03 vok` Ah
19:04 vok` What's a submodule? I have to admit that I haven't used git much.
19:04 vok` I want to finally get into it.
19:04 admsyn it's basically another repo inside a repo
19:04 admsyn so the pg submodule points here https://github.com/openframeworks/projectGenerator
19:04 vok` Ah ok, I get it.
19:04 vok` Interesting.
19:04 vok` Yeah, I came across that.
19:04 admsyn it's kind of a wonky feature sometimes
19:04 vok` It was like a wizard portal, LOL.
19:04 admsyn yeah
19:05 vok` I was like, where am I? Heh.
19:05 admsyn anyway the most reliable thing to do right now is to just grab the stuff in scripts/linux/template
19:05 admsyn I think the PG is in some major flux right now, and is growing a command-line accessible version to deal with some of this mess
19:05 vok` Ah I see.
19:06 vok` Major flux in a bad way?
19:06 vok` Getting better?
19:06 admsyn yeah
19:06 vok` Ah cool.
19:06 admsyn like "this isn't working let's fix it"
19:06 vok` I'd like a command-line tool for the PG too.
19:06 admsyn or *this isn't ideal
19:06 pizthewiz I think there is one right?
19:06 admsyn yeah I think that exists
19:06 vok` Will it still have the graphical part, admsyn?
19:06 pizthewiz There must be, since I think that is how the nightly build scripts do it
19:06 admsyn I don't know for sure tbh, I think it always had some sort of command line version
19:07 admsyn but it's more of a focus now
19:07 admsyn again I haven't been paying much attention :) broken telephone etc
19:07 vok` Ah ok.
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