Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #openstack-rally, 2015-03-15

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02:48 Topic for #openstack-rally is now ☁ Rally RoadMap: http://goo.gl/JZkmwY ☁ Rally IRC chat logs http://irclog.perlgeek.de/openstack-rally ☁ Key persons to ask:  boris-42, msdubov, rediskin, andreykurilin, amaretskiy  ☁ Documentation: https://rally.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ ☁ To publish changes to Rally:  https://rally.readthedocs.org/en/latest/contribute.html
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08:06 yfried andreykurilin: do we have specs/bp for all points in road map?
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10:55 boris-42 yfried|afk: ping
10:55 boris-42 psd_: hey there
11:05 boris-42 yfried:
11:05 boris-42 yfried: please don't ask pepole to make blueprints / specs for small changes
11:06 boris-42 yfried: it's absolutely useless bureaucracy that I would like to avoid
11:27 yfried boris-42: not asking to make. just asking if one exists
11:27 yfried boris-42: maybe I should have been clearer. sorry
11:29 boris-42 yfried: usually if it is not specified there is no blueprint
11:29 boris-42 yfried: what is ok to ask is to add bug on launchpad (if somebody is fixing serious bug)
11:30 yfried boris-42: I wonder - maybe we should add references to roadmap entries?
11:30 boris-42 yfried: because that makes sense (if somebody will use for example rally v0.0.2 with bug) and try to google it it will find bug report and fix
11:31 yfried boris-42: you mean for a new feature (like "median" stats) add bug?
11:31 boris-42 yfried: nope I mena for serious bugs
11:31 boris-42 yfried: it doesn't look like a bug at all
11:31 yfried boris-42: then sure
11:32 boris-42 yfried: so it's really important to link patches with bugs
11:32 yfried boris-42: agreed. but what about new features?
11:33 boris-42 yfried: so release notes
11:33 boris-42 yfried: like this https://rally.readthedocs.org/en/latest/release_notes/v0.0.2.html
11:33 boris-42 yfried: release notes in any case can't be generated automatically
11:33 boris-42 they need to be written by hand
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11:34 boris-42 so I don't need this mapping patch-bp
11:35 yfried boris-42: please comment on where you think my comments are wrong and I'll fix/explain
11:36 boris-42 yfried: already did
11:36 boris-42 yfried: btw we are going to have few changes
11:37 boris-42 yfried: first we are going to make rapid release management
11:37 boris-42 cutting new versions every 2 weeks
11:37 boris-42 the second thing is that we are going to have special blueprints
11:38 boris-42 critical-for-version-x.x.x / important-for-version-x.x.x / nice-to-have-in-version-x.x.x
11:39 yfried boris-42: do you have a rally-mtg?
11:39 yfried boris-42: maybe I should attend
11:39 boris-42 yfried: it's every week
11:40 yfried boris-42: time?
11:40 boris-42 yfried: Tuesday 15:00 UTC
11:40 yfried boris-42: could you pls send me and e-invite?
11:40 yfried s/and/an
11:42 boris-42 yfried: hmm
11:42 boris-42 yfried: it's irc
11:42 boris-42 yfried: but I can
11:43 yfried boris-42: you have my email, don't you?
11:43 boris-42 yfried: sned
11:43 boris-42 yfried: send*
11:43 yfried boris-42: I want my calendar to take care of DST and timezones
11:44 boris-42 yfried: ah ok
11:44 boris-42 yfried: so this is not enough reason to put -1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161037/5
11:44 boris-42 yfried: you can ask to provide more infomration in commit message if it is not clear from code
11:45 boris-42 yfried: that is enough for -1
11:45 boris-42 yfried: but asking is there any bp is not enough, because you can check it
11:45 yfried boris-42: that wasn't the reason I -1ed
11:46 yfried boris-42: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161037/5/rally/cmd/cliutils.py,cm
11:46 yfried boris-42: ^ this is
11:47 boris-42 yfried: ah see
11:47 boris-42 yfried: yep it should be described in commit message
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12:24 boris-42 yfried: btw
12:25 boris-42 yfried: I have some important task if you would like
12:25 yfried boris-42: to implement? what do you have in mind?
12:30 boris-42 yfried: so we need to add more data related to deployment in DB
12:30 boris-42 yfried: like ssl support
12:30 boris-42 yfried: and improve --fromenv stuff
12:31 boris-42 yfried: to use more keystone env variables
12:32 yfried boris-42: not my experience. do you have an example?
12:32 yfried boris-42: ^ haven't really played with keystone before
12:32 boris-42 yfried: https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/shell.py#L137-L170
12:33 boris-42 yfried: these are env variables
12:33 yfried boris-42: yeah, so?
12:33 boris-42 yfried: this is stored in our db https://github.com/stackforge/rally/blob/master/rally/objects/endpoint.py#L21-L40
12:34 boris-42 yfried|brb: this is exisitng cloud engine plugin: https://github.com/stackforge/rally/blob/master/rally/deploy/engines/existing.py#L21
12:35 yfried|brb boris-42: might want to store token as well, to save time?
12:36 boris-42 yfried|brb: and this is fromenv https://github.com/stackforge/rally/blob/master/rally/cmd/commands/deployment.py#L83-L105
12:36 boris-42 yfried|brb: nope os-token I would prefer to do in separated change
12:37 boris-42 yfried|brb: it will require a lot of refactoring
12:37 boris-42 yfried|brb: for now it will be great to add simple stuff
12:37 boris-42 yfried|brb: region name, os-endpoint, ssl stuff
12:38 boris-42 yfried|brb: because now it's quite hard to work with ssl because they are in rally.conf
12:45 yfried|brb boris-42: so you would like to pull "os-endpoint" for example from env to DB?
12:47 boris-42 yfried|brb: yep
12:47 boris-42 yfried|brb: there is no need to change DB schema at all
12:48 boris-42 yfried|brb: changing endpoint will do everything
13:40 yfried|brb boris-42: I need to leave. I'll talk to you tomorrow about this, but I need to check with my manager (tkammer) if this is something I can dive into
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21:03 openstackgerrit Boris Pavlovic proposed stackforge/rally: Improve hacking and remove useless unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/164384
21:03 openstackgerrit Boris Pavlovic proposed stackforge/rally: [unblock-gates] Reduce cirteria of success for Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/164539
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21:26 openstackgerrit Boris Pavlovic proposed stackforge/rally: Improve hacking and remove useless unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/164384
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22:50 openstackgerrit Boris Pavlovic proposed stackforge/rally: Add test that checks rational usage of rally.exceptions module  https://review.openstack.org/164548
23:36 openstackgerrit Boris Pavlovic proposed stackforge/rally: Add test that checks rational usage of rally.exceptions module  https://review.openstack.org/164548

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