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IRC log for #openstack-rally, 2015-05-14

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00:20 openstackgerrit John Wu proposed openstack/rally: [Swift] Add objects context class  https://review.openstack.org/179578
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01:08 rook boris-42 around by chance?
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04:23 openstackgerrit John Wu proposed openstack/rally: [Swift] Add objects context class  https://review.openstack.org/179578
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06:32 kalyan Hi
06:32 kalyan i tried to use "periodic" in runner type
06:32 kalyan and it throws this error "There is no benchmark runner with type `periodic`"
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08:19 openstackgerrit Mikhail Dubov proposed openstack/rally: Release 0.0.4  https://review.openstack.org/180498
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09:31 boris-42 kalyan: replied in private
09:31 boris-42 rook: around
09:31 boris-42 rook: but seems like to late..
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09:53 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Add command-dict option to specify command args  https://review.openstack.org/177016
09:53 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Introduce command-specifying dictionary  https://review.openstack.org/177011
09:53 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Introduce `valid_command' validator  https://review.openstack.org/177012
09:53 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Make `boot_runcommand_delete' accept command-dict  https://review.openstack.org/177014
09:53 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Add command-dict option to upload a local command  https://review.openstack.org/177015
09:53 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Fix `sshutils.put_file' to use sftp context  https://review.openstack.org/182991
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10:21 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/rally: Fix security groups cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/179428
10:22 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/rally: Change default prefix in _generate_random_name()  https://review.openstack.org/182732
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10:49 openstackgerrit Alexander Maretskiy proposed openstack/rally: [Fuel] Add Fuel scenario `list_environments'  https://review.openstack.org/178731
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11:11 rook boris-42 - Is there a change to Rally to use Sec-group id instead of the name?
11:11 rook boris-42: I seem to be bumping into this : Multiple security groups found matching 'default'. Use an ID to be more specific
11:11 rook with the latest code.
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11:31 boris-42 rook: where that happened?
11:31 rook which scenario?
11:32 rook launching a bunch of VMs concurrently in a single tenant.
11:32 rook Nova.BootServer
11:32 rook i think was the scenario, lemme check
11:32 rook NovaServers.boot_server
11:33 boris-42 rook: please paste traces
11:33 rook boris-42: from ? Rally?
11:33 boris-42 rook: at least
11:35 rook https://gist.githubusercontent.com/jtaleric/21fa6e96251d9ac52e91/raw/23f89248d15ab2c73bc1c382f8d4e89e181432dc/gistfile1.txt
11:35 rook boris-42: ^
11:35 boris-42 rook: give me a five minutes
11:35 boris-42 I am in middle of cutting 0.0.4 release
11:35 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/rally: Release 0.0.4  https://review.openstack.org/180498
11:36 rook rgr
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11:42 boris-42 HAPPY 0.0.4 RELEASE
11:42 rook :D
11:43 boris-42 rook: actually not fully yet
11:43 rook tease
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12:04 pradeep f
12:07 boris-42 rook: it's internal bug of your OpenStack cloud
12:13 openstackgerrit Mikhail Dubov proposed openstack/rally: [Spec] Enhance Rally API  https://review.openstack.org/182245
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12:20 openstackgerrit Swapnil Kulkarni proposed openstack/rally: Add E126 pep8 rule  https://review.openstack.org/183029
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12:39 boris-42 rook: or maybe our  bug
12:44 vaidy boris-42,
12:45 vaidy boris-42, ping
12:46 vaidy yfried, hi
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13:25 openstackgerrit Mikhail Dubov proposed openstack/rally: [Docs] Existing users and other fixes  https://review.openstack.org/183038
13:26 rook boris-42:  it is because rally doens't use a ID for sec groups
13:27 openstackgerrit Mikhail Dubov proposed openstack/rally: [Docs] Existing users and other fixes  https://review.openstack.org/183038
13:28 openstackgerrit Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/rally: Implement subunit_parser  https://review.openstack.org/180144
13:29 boris-42 rook: it is because you have few default groups
13:29 rook boris-42: my code cleans up sec groups before each rally run
13:29 rook to augment this issue i create more tenants and users.
13:29 boris-42 rook: https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/benchmark/scenarios/nova/utils.py#L116-L147 take a look
13:30 boris-42 rook: rally doesn't manage default groups at all
13:30 boris-42 rook: btw we fixed that issue (and rally cleans default groups now)
13:30 rook :)
13:30 rook good so i don't have to anymore
13:31 rook boris-42: something is creating def sec-groups when rally runs
13:31 rook maybe it is neutron
13:32 boris-42 rook: nova or nuetron
13:32 boris-42 rook: depending on what you are using
13:32 rook there is a known race condition in neutron which is fixed in kilo
13:32 boris-42 rook: yep I know
13:32 rook and rally exposes this pretty bad
13:32 boris-42 rook: I detected it
13:32 boris-42 rook: and I was helping fixing it=)
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13:35 rook boris-42: nice!
13:35 rook get it backported to juno would ya :)
13:42 rook boris-42: ping - should kwargs["security_groups"] , be the ID or name?
13:56 openstackgerrit Nikita Konovalov proposed openstack/rally: Wait for status  https://review.openstack.org/172466
14:04 boris-42 rook: hm
14:04 rook boris-42: seems to be a list of names :)
14:04 boris-42 rook: it should be list of names as far as I know
14:04 rook haha
14:04 boris-42 rook: yep
14:04 rook trial and error
14:05 rook it would be very nice to identify the kwargs and what they are expecting
14:05 rook not all of them
14:05 boris-42 rook: it's impossible
14:05 rook but what each function might use.
14:05 boris-42 rook: it depends on python clients commands that we are using
14:06 boris-42 rook: so you should take a look each time in specific python client
14:06 rook haha i have.
14:06 rook it would just be a Nice to have.
14:06 boris-42 rook:  so it will be nice if python clients are better and they will provide such info
14:06 rook preach
14:06 boris-42 rook: but it is impossible to organize such work in community
14:07 boris-42 rook: at least I am not able to lead such efforts=)
14:07 boris-42 I am to aggressive =)
14:07 boris-42 rook: retweet required https://twitter.com/PavlovicBoris/status/598838569793429505 =)
14:07 rook gah, even passing a a sec-group name and i still hit : RescheduledException: Build of instance ca97c8c4-e65d-453c-a120-37b47fd3959d was re-scheduled: Multiple security groups found matching 'default'. Use an ID to be more specific.\n"
14:07 openstackgerrit Roman Vasilets proposed openstack/rally: Add functional test for task samples  https://review.openstack.org/181400
14:07 openstackgerrit Roman Vasilets proposed openstack/rally: Fix nova/boot-lock-unlock-and-delete scenario flavor  https://review.openstack.org/183053
14:10 boris-42 rook: there is no way to fix this
14:10 boris-42 rook: except using "existing users"
14:10 boris-42 rook: which is possible now
14:14 openstackgerrit Nikita Konovalov proposed openstack/rally: [Sahara] More debug logging  https://review.openstack.org/170491
14:16 rook boris-42: might give that a shot to avoid this.
14:17 rook boris-42: have a example of the existing user work
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14:21 openstackgerrit Roman Vasilets proposed openstack/rally: Add functional test for task samples  https://review.openstack.org/181400
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14:50 openstackgerrit Roman Vasilets proposed openstack/rally: Add functional test for task samples  https://review.openstack.org/181400
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15:08 Vishal_ amaretskiy: Hi
15:08 amaretskiy Vishal_: hi
15:08 Vishal_ amaretskiy: Need your help for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174251/
15:09 Vishal_ amaretskiy: not able to decide what can be the persistent thing across iterations except "context"
15:14 amaretskiy Vishal_: simple answer: locate L35 at wrappers.network: cidr_incr = utils.RAMInt()
15:14 amaretskiy Vishal_: but your patch is interesting, I have to review it to give better comments
15:14 Vishal_ amaretskiy: sure
15:15 amaretskiy Vishal_: actually I got different problem with cidrs - how to avoid possible averlapping :) Your patch tries to do exactly opposite thing
15:16 Vishal_ amaretskiy: :)
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15:17 vaidy boris-42, ping
15:18 boris-42 vaidy: pong
15:18 vaidy boris-42, first of nice to hear on the new release
15:19 boris-42 vaidy: thanks
15:20 vaidy boris-42, had a question on deployment create, is it mandatory that the json should have the admin user as mandatory entry to create a deployment?
15:20 vaidy boris-42, i see even the code is been designed the same way
15:20 boris-42 vaidy: for now yea
15:20 boris-42 vaidy: I am working on dropping this
15:20 Vishal_ amaretskiy: I feel there should be benchmarking done when overlapping Ip's are there in neutron...since i had seen different performance of neutron in case of overlapping and non-overlapping
15:21 vaidy boris-42, ok
15:22 boris-42 vaidy: as first part we drop the requiremtns to create new users
15:22 boris-42 vaidy: so now you can use existing users in system to do the load
15:22 boris-42 vaidy: next step is to finish plugin base, move validation to it, and unify validation mechansim for context/scenarios/runners/sla
15:23 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/rally: Add E126 pep8 rule  https://review.openstack.org/183029
15:24 vaidy boris-42, ok
15:24 vaidy boris-42, but makes i can understand the current architecture of the code
15:25 boris-42 vaidy: so current architecture of the code is in the middle of moving from generating load just with admin user -> to the abbility to generate load with what you have
15:26 boris-42 admin, admin + temp users create by rally, admin + existing users, existings users, or even just without openstack at all
15:26 boris-42 vaidy: ^
15:26 boris-42 vaidy: as you can see on scenarios there is validator that ask do you need openstack and the rest stuff
15:26 vaidy boris-42, yeah
15:27 vaidy boris-42, I have not gone that far though but can co-relate what you are explaining
15:28 boris-42 vaidy: https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/benchmark/scenarios/nova/servers.py#L85
15:28 boris-42 vaidy: ^ this
15:28 openstackgerrit Nikita Konovalov proposed openstack/rally: [Sahara] More debug logging  https://review.openstack.org/170491
15:36 vaidy boris-42, yeah
15:36 vaidy boris-42, thanks
15:36 boris-42 vaidy: at least now you can run rally on production like deployments=)
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15:37 boris-42 vaidy: becasue before it was just impossible
15:37 vaidy boris-42, yes we already are trying it
15:37 vaidy boris-42, but we are restricted with non admin access though
15:37 vaidy boris-42, this should solve that problem
15:40 boris-42 vaidy: so this will be implemented during liberty
15:40 vaidy boris-42, hmmm
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15:41 vaidy boris-42, ok
15:42 Vishal_ amaretskiy: The problem is the tenant and user for any particular iteration are chosen randomly...for the same tenant I have to generate a unique cidr so that within the tenant there is no overlapping...but for different tenant I want to use the same cidr ranges which were generated earlier so that they can overlap
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16:03 openstackgerrit Roman Vasilets proposed openstack/rally: Add functional test for task samples  https://review.openstack.org/181400
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16:06 openstackgerrit Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/rally: Minor install script improvements  https://review.openstack.org/182809
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16:59 rook boris-42 - is there a example on using rally w/ existing users?
17:07 boris-42 rook: take a look at my blogpost
17:07 boris-42 rook: http://boris-42.me/rally-can-generate-load-with-passed-users-now/
17:07 rook http://boris-42.me/rally-v0-0-4-whats-new/ ?
17:07 rook ah
17:07 rook ok
17:08 boris-42 rook: official documentation coming soon
17:08 boris-42 rook: actually patch is on review
17:11 openstackgerrit Roman Vasilets proposed openstack/rally: Add functional test for task samples  https://review.openstack.org/181400
17:18 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/rally: Add Cinder create_backup volume scenario  https://review.openstack.org/167171
17:22 rook boris-42: nice, running with that now.
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17:26 boris-42 rook: the nice thing is that it won't leave bunch of undeleted resources
17:27 boris-42 rook: I mean when you use existing users (it's like a sandbox)
17:31 rook boris-42: fyi rally task abort is broke.
17:31 rook known?
17:31 boris-42 rook: it's not broken
17:31 boris-42 rook: it's not implmeneted
17:31 rook lol
17:32 rook ok
17:32 boris-42 rook: it says that it's not implmemented LOL
17:32 * rook should of looked at the trace
17:32 rook when return 1 i just assume "broke"
17:32 rook lol
17:33 boris-42 rook: eh end users=)
17:33 rook lol
17:33 rook it has been that sort of day
17:33 boris-42 rook: sooo
17:33 boris-42 rook: actually it's almost implmented
17:34 boris-42 кrook https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161636/
17:35 rook boris-42: awesome... added myself as a reviewer thanks!
17:41 boris-42 rook: someday Rally will be awesome tool=)
17:41 rook boris-42: it is pretty helpful as it is now ;-)
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17:42 boris-42 rook: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147765/
17:42 boris-42 rook: community=)
17:43 rook there are plenty of jerks in Open Source :)
17:45 rook boris-42 not saying one is better than the other... but Tempest has ruined OpenStack deployments in the past for me... It doens't do a good job at ALL when cleaning up after itself.
17:52 boris-42 rook: actually we are going to dicuss this during summit
17:52 boris-42 rook: so we have a lot of plans regarding to tuning cleanup stuff in rally
17:52 rook nice!
17:52 boris-42 rook: that is related to tempest as well
17:52 boris-42 rook: at least disaster cleanup part
17:53 boris-42 rook: begging is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172967/
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17:54 rook rally does a much better job IMHO wrt Cleanup
18:06 boris-42 rook: so the future step are what to if server with rally and it's DB was destroyed in the middle of benchmarking?)
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18:23 openstackgerrit Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/rally: Add Nova scenario to boot multiple servers in one request  https://review.openstack.org/176858
18:23 openstackgerrit Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/rally: Nova: Refactor utils._boot_servers to generate its own name prefix  https://review.openstack.org/183152
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18:42 rook hm, boris-42 what i find interesting... I tried with the singe existing user and hit the same issue iwth security groups
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18:46 boris-42 rook: yep
18:46 boris-42 rook: you should create user
18:47 boris-42 rook: boot single VM
18:47 boris-42 rook: remove it
18:47 boris-42 rook: after that you can benchmark
18:47 rook hm, the default sec-group exists without that.
18:47 rook | e586a999-3c59-42e3-b457-3b88a59a2226 | default | default     |
18:47 rook is there something else that does?
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18:49 boris-42 rook: after creating user
18:49 boris-42 rook: you should create VM to create defaut sec group
18:49 boris-42 rook: that is actually the race
18:49 boris-42 rook: if you create them sinulatnously
18:49 boris-42 rook: it may create 2 default
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19:20 georgem1 I ran the task "NovaServers.boot_server" with "times": 10 and "concurrency": 10. After it completed successfully, I don't see any new instances
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19:22 georgem1 can somebody please explain me how it works…this is the task http://pastebin.com/m6E83BxQ
19:24 georgem1 I assumed it would create 3 temporary tenants with 2 users each and use them to start these VMs (10x10 ?), which should not be deleted at the end..also, what should happen with the temporary tenants and users?
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19:38 georgem1 anybody?
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19:44 boris-42 georgem1: hm?
19:44 boris-42 georgem1: nope
19:44 boris-42 10 times is total amount
19:44 boris-42 so it will create 10 workers each worker will create 1 vm
19:44 boris-42 after that generic cleanup mechanism will delete everything
19:44 georgem1 ok, where are the vms?
19:44 boris-42 they are cleaned up
19:45 boris-42 by Rally
19:45 boris-42 Rally don't leave any resources
19:45 boris-42 (or at least it shouldn't)
19:45 georgem1 even if I only ran boot
19:45 boris-42 cleanup is separated steps
19:45 boris-42 step*
19:45 boris-42 during the load it won't clean anything
19:46 boris-42 after load will be finished it will clean all VMs and all tenants/users
19:46 georgem1 so, what's the difference between the tasks "NovaServers.boot_server" and "NovaServers.boot_and_delete_server" ?
19:47 boris-42 load is different
19:47 boris-42 you are repeating N times creae or create-and-delete
19:47 boris-42 as a result in boot_server there will be more and more active VMs
19:48 boris-42 and in case of boot_and_delete the amount of active/in status of creation/deleteion will be the same as concurrency all the time
19:48 boris-42 georgem1: ^
19:48 georgem1 I see, so create-and-delete deletes them right away, as opposed to just create that deletes at the end
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19:49 boris-42 georgem1: yep after all iterations are run
19:49 boris-42 georgem1: so if you would like to get at the end 100 active VMs by creating 10 simultaneosuly
19:49 boris-42 times: 100, concurrency: 10
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19:50 georgem1 ok, actually, I want to test with 500, so it should be times: 500, concurrency 50 ?
19:51 georgem1 it will run 10 batches of 50 ?
19:51 boris-42 georgem1: there are not actually batches
19:51 boris-42 georgem1: there will be 50 workers that are simultaneously executing this stuff
19:51 boris-42 georgem1: scenario
19:52 boris-42 georgem1: unit it won't be run 500 times
19:52 boris-42 georgem1: depending on duration
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19:52 georgem1 I see, but it's fair to say there will be 500 nova boot API calls in the end
19:52 boris-42 georgem1: it may happen that one worker will run 51 and another 49
19:52 boris-42 georgem1: yep
19:53 georgem1 cool, thanks for the info
20:01 georgem1 boris-42: another question please..how does rally verify the instance started is really alive?
20:01 boris-42 georgem1: if it is boot_server than it will be just status in nova db
20:02 boris-42 georgem1: so if nova says that it works then it's ok
20:02 georgem1 boris-42: is there a task that also pings the instance's IP?
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20:13 boris-42 georgem1: so there is VMTask.boot_and_runcommand
20:13 boris-42 georgem1: it boot vm attach floating ip wait for ping wait for ssh and executes command inside vm collects output and remove VM
20:17 georgem1 boris-42:this sounds more accurate, I just wished it wouldn't use a floating IP as it's not going too well for large scale testing; it would probably run into arp issues, floating ip alloc/dealloc issues, etc; it would be nice if the first VM would be used as a jumpserver, but too complicated to implement..
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20:21 boris-42 georgem1: it can work with fixed ip
20:21 boris-42 georgem1: you need just to specify
20:21 boris-42 georgem1: to not use floatip
20:21 boris-42 georgem1: but as you understand you should see the fixed network from where do you run rally
20:24 georgem1 boris-42: how do I specify the user to run as and the network to attach to? I can run rally from an instance owned by a "rally" user in the "rally" tenant if need be
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20:37 boris-42 georgem1: basically you can create user
20:37 boris-42 georgem1: and use it for generation load
20:37 boris-42 georgem1: or have rally on controllers
20:37 boris-42 georgem1: it really depends on your network configuration
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21:41 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Add command-dict option to specify command args  https://review.openstack.org/177016
21:41 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Fix `sshutils.put_file' to use sftp context  https://review.openstack.org/182991
21:41 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Introduce command-specifying dictionary  https://review.openstack.org/177011
21:41 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Introduce `valid_command' validator  https://review.openstack.org/177012
21:41 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Make `boot_runcommand_delete' accept command-dict  https://review.openstack.org/177014
21:41 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: Add command-dict option to upload a local command  https://review.openstack.org/177015
21:41 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: WIP command_customizer content  https://review.openstack.org/183227
21:41 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: WIP: boot_runcommand_delete_custom_image  https://review.openstack.org/183228
21:50 openstackgerrit Pavel Boldin proposed openstack/rally: WIP: boot_runcommand_delete_custom_image  https://review.openstack.org/183228
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22:49 openstackgerrit OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/rally: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/182843
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23:33 openstackgerrit Mikhail Dubov proposed openstack/rally: [Docs] Existing users and other fixes  https://review.openstack.org/183038

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