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IRC log for #openstack-rally, 2015-10-26

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04:04 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/rally: Enable ddt on random name generator tests  https://review.openstack.org/238979
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05:28 chenli hi, I get a question, I download rally from github, and I have a exist openstack.. How to install rally ?
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05:29 chenli directly run install_rally.sh ??
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06:47 kun_huang chenli:  yep, just do it :)
06:47 chenli kun_huang, no, it do not work. :(
06:47 kun_huang chenli: do you have a normal network?
06:48 chenli yes~
06:48 chenli I download rally from github, but looks like it delete my download code.
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07:04 chenli kun_huang,  hi, I get another question, is rally plugin == secorio ?
07:05 chenli s/secorio/scenarios
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09:29 andreykurilin chenli: rally plugin != scenarios . rally plugins == (scenarios, contexts, SLAs, clients) :)
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09:51 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/rally: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/239044
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10:02 openstackgerrit Kiran proposed openstack/rally: Fix _warn_about_deprecated_name_kwarg to generate name  https://review.openstack.org/234660
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10:13 openstackgerrit Kiran proposed openstack/rally: Fix _warn_about_deprecated_name_kwarg to generate name  https://review.openstack.org/234660
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10:20 openstackgerrit Kiran proposed openstack/rally: Add Neutron Security Groups scenarios  https://review.openstack.org/229559
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11:33 openstackgerrit Illia Khudoshyn proposed openstack/rally: [WIP] Add 'merge lists' function  https://review.openstack.org/239406
11:33 openstackgerrit Kiran proposed openstack/rally: Add Neutron Security Groups scenarios  https://review.openstack.org/229559
11:39 openstackgerrit Kiran proposed openstack/rally: Fix _warn_about_deprecated_name_kwarg to generate name  https://review.openstack.org/234660
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11:49 openstackgerrit Illia Khudoshyn proposed openstack/rally: [WIP] Add 'merge lists' function  https://review.openstack.org/239406
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11:55 chenli andreykurilin, o, that's where I'm confused. Why rally need a "plugin" ? Isn't scenario, context, slas, cients == every thing ?
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12:03 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/rally: Add ability to specify service types for clients  https://review.openstack.org/235255
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12:12 andreykurilin chenli: unfortunately, not all things are plugins in rally(for example validation is not moved on plugin base yet)
12:16 andreykurilin chenli: plugins needed for several reasons. The first one: it allows to write some scenario or context, which is specific for you and don't send it to rally master, just save your plugins at /opt/rally/plugins dir and it will be autodiscovered by rally
12:17 andreykurilin chenli: the another idea of plugins is separate rally framework from all plugins(scenarios, contexts, clients and etc), so you will be able to write your tasks fro different environments(not only for openstack)
12:18 openstackgerrit Illia Khudoshyn proposed openstack/rally: [WIP] Add 'merge lists' function  https://review.openstack.org/239406
12:18 openstackgerrit Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/rally: Check nova v2.2 in gates  https://review.openstack.org/236967
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12:55 openstackgerrit Illia Khudoshyn proposed openstack/rally: [WIP]Add ability to merge data from several SLA instances into a single one  https://review.openstack.org/238547
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13:28 chenli andreykurilin,  what is "rally framework" ? a deployment + task ?
13:30 chenli andreykurilin, and  validation is only works for openstack, right ? I remember it is based on tempest
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13:35 andreykurilin chenli: rally framework is a mechanism for launching tasks, storing and generating results
13:36 andreykurilin chenli: rally verification is base on tempest . In future we want to move `rally verify` on plugin base too, so you will be able to use whatever you want subunit-based tool(tempest, gabbi and so on)
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13:37 chenli andreykurilin, o, so can I say rally = framework + plugin ?
13:37 andreykurilin chenli: yes:)
13:37 chenli andreykurilin, and frame work defined "how to write plugin"
13:38 andreykurilin chenli: and validation is a some set of checks(like checking that task configuration file(json/yaml) is valid, required services are enabled and others)
13:39 andreykurilin chenli: validation != verification :)
13:41 chenli andreykurilin, o.  verification is only a type of validation
13:41 chenli andreykurilin, right
13:41 chenli andreykurilin, ?
13:43 andreykurilin chenli: not exactly. validation relates to preparing stuff for task. it helps to ensure that everything is ok to launch a scenarios or context. and verification is a separate thing with separate command(`rally verify`), which runs a tool with subunit output(tempest).
13:46 chenli andreykurilin,  o,  what is the difference verfication and certification ? I see patches realted to certification
13:47 chenli s/difference/difference between/
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13:47 chenli s/realted/related
13:52 andreykurilin chenli: certification is a big rally task, which includes main scenarios for base openstack components. It allows to check that your cloud is alive and works:)
13:53 andreykurilin chenli: I suppose that boris-42 or somebody else can say more about certification:)
13:54 andreykurilin chenli: so the main difference between verification and certifications is: verification uses tempest, certification uses a big rally task
13:54 chenli andreykurilin, o~ so the purpose is similar
13:56 andreykurilin chenli: certification is better:) you can configure load, runners, images and so on
13:56 chenli andreykurilin, o
13:57 chenli andreykurilin, another question, what is the code in directory "ui" used for ?
13:57 andreykurilin chenli: https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/certification/openstack/README.rst
13:59 andreykurilin chenli: `ui` module includes templates(for example for rally reports, like http://logs.openstack.org/50/234950/5/check/gate-rally-dsvm-rally/efccf91/rally-plot/results.html.gz) and util to generate html page based on mako-template(it used in scripts for our gates)
14:00 chenli andreykurilin, the task.yaml in certification is really long, can rally support more than 1 task.yaml input files ? it is a little hard to read the yaml file when it is that long.
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14:02 andreykurilin chenli: rally accepts only one input file, BUT, since we use jinja template, you can create input file, which loads tones of another files:)
14:04 chenli andreykurilin, o, that's nice. "jinjia template" is a standard type of thing, and I can google it, right ?
14:04 andreykurilin chenli: yes, http://jinja.pocoo.org/docs/dev/
14:05 chenli andreykurilin, greate
14:05 chenli andreykurilin, last question, do rally must run different scenarios one by one ? can I run "boot_and delete" and "create_network"  at the same time ?
14:08 andreykurilin chenli: if you want you can take part in the rally meething - #openstack-meething
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14:21 andreykurilin chenli: If you need a boot vm with a network, you can use network context(it will create networks for you) and boot_and_delete scenario will boot a vm with a network
14:28 chenli andreykurilin, understand! Thanks very much !
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15:30 openstackgerrit Alexander Maretskiy proposed openstack/rally: [Reports] Add support of Jinja2 templates in ui.utils.get_template()  https://review.openstack.org/239464
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15:53 openstackgerrit Sergey Skripnick proposed openstack/rally: Fix sahra-dsvm and sahara-mos jobs  https://review.openstack.org/239477
16:10 openstackgerrit Igor Degtiarov proposed openstack/rally: Add timestamps and metadata into creating samples  https://review.openstack.org/227343
16:10 openstackgerrit Igor Degtiarov proposed openstack/rally: Creation a list of samples in sample generator  https://review.openstack.org/192130
16:10 openstackgerrit Igor Degtiarov proposed openstack/rally: Add batching for samples creation in context  https://review.openstack.org/232968
16:12 openstackgerrit Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack/rally: [Sahara] Add ability to specify service_type  https://review.openstack.org/239482
16:14 openstackgerrit Sergey Skripnick proposed openstack/rally: Fix sahra-dsvm and sahara-mos jobs  https://review.openstack.org/239477
16:21 openstackgerrit Sergey Skripnick proposed openstack/rally: Fix sahra-dsvm and sahara-mos jobs  https://review.openstack.org/239477
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16:51 openstackgerrit Sergey Skripnick proposed openstack/rally: Fix sahra-dsvm and sahara-mos jobs  https://review.openstack.org/239477
16:52 rook boris-42: ping
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21:01 Topic for #openstack-rally is now ☁ Rally RoadMap: http://goo.gl/JZkmwY ☁ Review Dashboard: http://goo.gl/YuCJfl ☁ IRC logs http://irclog.perlgeek.de/openstack-rally ☁ Key persons to ask:  boris-42, yfried, msdubov, rediskin, andreykurilin, amaretskiy  ☁ Documentation: https://rally.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ ☁ To publish changes to Rally:  https://rally.readthedocs.org/en/latest/contribute.html
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22:49 openstackgerrit Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/rally: Fix random name bug if task uuid is too short  https://review.openstack.org/238980
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23:04 openstackgerrit Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/rally: Implement new random name generator for wrapper plugins  https://review.openstack.org/226387
23:04 openstackgerrit Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/rally: Remove old random name generator  https://review.openstack.org/226388
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