Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #p6p5, 2012-08-20

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08:45 moritz theorbtwo: I think the original idea was to write it for Perl 6. But it would work for Perl 5 too, I presume :-)
09:04 castaway moritz: imo both would be good ;)
09:06 moritz castaway: aye :-)
09:33 leont moritz: it's Path::Class, not Class::Path ;-)
09:34 moritz leont: oops, I'll fix it
09:34 moritz the dangers of offline blogging
09:34 moritz had I been oline while writing, I'd looked up the search.cpan.org URL
09:35 mdk moritz: I have held off publishig my blog until I can check some references and add links
09:35 mdk I liked yours however
09:35 moritz mdk: thanks
09:43 pmichaud release early, release often
10:11 castaway hm no tux or gabor
10:11 theorbtwo moritz: I think perl5 would be more instructive in some cases, because one doesn't build a object system in perl6 -- it already has one.
10:12 theorbtwo moritz: However, both, also, would be good in many places.
10:12 theorbtwo (OTOH, I suppose a fair bit of perl 6's object system is implmented in perl6.)
10:12 castaway strawberry perl cmes with included libxml2 libssh etc, and some 200+ modules, worth looking atthe list
10:12 moritz theorbtwo: well, if you learn OO programming in Java, you also don't learn how to build your own object system
10:12 theorbtwo castaway: Yeah, strawberry is called that because it's not vanilla.
10:13 theorbtwo moritz: Yes, which is why our book would be better.
10:13 moritz theorbtwo: I think it's better to first learn how to use it, and then how to build it
10:13 castaway theorbtwo: i didnt know about the libxml2 etc tho
10:13 moritz how to build it well is a much more advanced topic
10:13 moritz (meta object programming)
10:13 theorbtwo Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs is so popular because it takes you all the way from how to use it to how to build it.
10:14 theorbtwo moritz: I think two chapters are good for many topics -- how to use it, then later in the book, how to build it.
10:14 theorbtwo Also, how to build it is often really a case of A + B.
10:14 theorbtwo How do you build an object system in an imperitive system?
10:14 theorbtwo How do you build a CPS system in an object system?
10:15 * theorbtwo is completely failing to pay attention to the talk he's in.
10:15 * castaway wonders if theres a list of perl distributions anywhere..
10:15 moritz theorbtwo: I agree that it's usually very interesting to build it, but from a CS course perspective it's usuall a different course. OO programming vs. language/compiler design
10:16 theorbtwo moritz: Yeah, well, two courses that share a book, or possibly two books?
10:17 theorbtwo But I think a multiparadmic book should give lots of info on mixing the paradimes.
10:19 theorbtwo ...just like you know from the beginning of Ghostbusters that they *will* cross the streams at some point.
10:20 theorbtwo Gah.  Paradigim.
10:20 theorbtwo (Silly language, English.)
10:22 castaway theorbtwo: you said that as bingos displayed the ghostbusters crossing streams
10:22 castaway scared now
10:48 * theorbtwo grins.
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15:44 takadonet morning all
15:56 sorear good evening takadonet
15:57 takadonet sorear: long time no talk! How have you been?
15:57 sorear I'm fine
15:57 sorear been kinda busy for a week
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16:43 woolfy Hi people...  Wendy and Liz safely arrived in Frankfurt, with books and camel and things.  Thank you for being amazing in Perl, amazing in Frankfurt, amazing here online.  You are really working on your plans and it is great to see you here.
16:44 woolfy Justed wanted to say that, nothing else to contribute...
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17:25 * dukeleto waves
18:01 * moritz particles
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20:38 sorear woolfy: I saw that the books seem to be in the yapc lobby
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21:53 mdk Lo all
21:54 mdk http://mdk.per.ly/2012/08/20/prs201​2-perl5-perl6-reunification-summit/
21:56 sorear hello mdk.
21:56 mdk Heya
22:21 japhb_ mdk++ # nice p5p6 blog entry
22:22 japhb_ Are there any others than moritz's and mdk's yet?
22:24 sorear not that I known of
22:24 sorear eh, good enough

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