Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #p6p5, 2012-08-27

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07:52 tadzik my workplace reaction to my PRS story: http://cdn.memegenerator.net​/instances/400x/25645422.jpg
09:00 fglock good * #p6p5
09:03 Juerd Is that good whatever #p6p5, or good multiplied by #p6p5?
09:03 Juerd In any case, good * fglock :)
09:05 leont * is the whatever operator ;-)
09:05 * castaway gusses its good $localtime
09:06 Juerd leont: By itself a funny thing, that an operator is to be used as a term...
09:07 fglock good times #p6p5
09:09 moritz \o fglock
09:20 fglock I couldn't so far come up with a summary of the summit/yapc to put in a blog
09:21 * leont is still working on it, it will be a on 3 events all featuring mdk :-p
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13:05 fglock sbertrang++ and I are trying to get Mojo to run in perlito5
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14:05 marcus fglock: nice
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14:21 sorear Juerd: it's more similar to the way that /$x/ can be used as either an operator or a term in perl5
14:22 Juerd Can it?
14:22 sorear sure
14:22 sorear in term cohntext it parses as a regex
14:23 sorear in operator context it parses as ($left / $x) / $right
14:23 Juerd Ah.
14:23 rgs also, //
14:23 Juerd That's not what I meant though
14:24 Juerd I meant that it's a bit strange to use a non-quoting, non-bracketing operator in term position.
14:24 Juerd A nullary operator.
14:24 Juerd For some reason it feels more natural if its name is alphanumeric (e.g. undef)
14:37 pmichaud it's not really an "operator".  It's a term.
14:37 pmichaud we don't refer to the * as "whatever operator", we refer to it as the "whatever term".
14:38 pmichaud or even "Whatever Object" as in S02.
14:39 sorear It's a term with a punctuation name.  Perl 5 has a few of those too. :D
14:39 pmichaud some people think of it as an "operator" because it's not alphanumeric, but technically it is a term and in the specs we refer to it as a term or object.
14:43 Juerd Thanks, that makes sense :)
14:44 Juerd Could whatever make sense in Perl 5?
14:46 sorear maybe, but * already means something in Perl 5
14:46 sorear * + *  # p6: a sub that adds two numbers
14:47 sorear * + *  # p5: ok, you have the *{"+"} typeglob, now what are you going to multiply it by?
14:47 rgs may I note that unicode has way too many asterisks to choose from :)
14:48 * sorear wonders how p5 numifies typeglobs
14:48 rgs to 0, what else
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20:14 * marcus is moving.
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20:19 * Liz just did her first nqp commit
20:19 sorear Liz++
20:20 Liz jhnthn and pm helped
20:24 rurban_mobile Still looks impressive though
20:25 leont Liz++
20:27 marcus Jackpot. I haz electricity
20:27 marcus B n
20:33 * marcus is @ the train office.
20:33 marcus What's happning at the venue? Things winding down?
20:35 sjn marcus: we're fine :)
20:35 sjn still hacking, some of us winding down with a game of fluxx
20:36 marcus sjn: neat. I have map to ferry tomorrow, eystein is gonna meet me on the other side.
20:36 sjn yep!
20:36 marcus hmm, I should takke trains more often, this is quite comfortable.
20:36 rurban_mobile and a lot of beer and soda
20:36 sjn and snacks
20:36 sorear the hackathon is over already?
20:37 marcus a bunch of teenage girls just arrived in my cart.
20:37 sjn nah :)
20:37 marcus sorear: I meant for the night.
20:37 * marcus plabs to hack for most of it.
20:37 marcus plans
20:37 sjn great!
20:38 marcus I'm thinking the p5-mop needs some tooling.
20:38 marcus like vim/tm2 syntax and perltidy.
20:46 rurban_mobile sorear: hacking needs fuel
20:51 marcus I should take trains more often.
22:40 stevan marcus++
22:41 stevan marcus++
22:41 stevan marcus++
22:41 stevan marcus++
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22:45 marcus \m/
22:46 sorear forgive me, who's marcus and what's going on?
22:47 marcus Who is sorear and what's going on?
22:47 marcus ;-)
22:47 sorear I was at the PRS.
22:47 sorear And I have no idea what's going on
22:47 sorear Other than stevan repeatedly ++ing someone who wasn't.
22:48 sorear I gather marcus did something.
22:48 * marcus has reread the proposal for p5-mop now.
22:50 marcus Sorear: I think he's just happy at the prospect of seeing me irl soon :-) am enroute to the moving to moose Hackathon.
22:51 marcus And the Internet on this train is shit :-/
22:51 stevan marcus: the first ++ was for you as a general human being
22:52 stevan the second ++ was for your love of the public transport systems
22:52 stevan the third ++ was for ???
22:52 stevan the fourth ++ was for how much we will all  profit from your attendence
22:53 marcus I guess we will find out tomorrow ;-)
22:54 * marcus is looking at the Perl.tmbundle
22:54 marcus I love how tm2 has gained momentum lately.
22:54 sri \o/
22:54 stevan I am still using TM1 and trying to convert myself to SublimeText
22:54 stevan sri: are you on the train with marcus!
22:55 sri perltidy in sublime doesn't do unicode :(
22:55 marcus That would have been a frickin miracle.
22:55 sri stevan: afraid not
22:55 stevan sri: wussie
22:55 sri :(
22:56 marcus I bought sublime too. But using tm2 again.
22:56 * sri depends so much on working perltidy and find in project
22:57 stevan my code is already tidy, and find in project (mostly) works in ST2
22:57 sri it's so much better in tm2
22:58 marcus Hah, that is not what people cleaning up your trailing white space tell me, Stevan.
22:58 sri :)
22:58 stevan marcus: thats not fair, that hasn't been an issue for me in years
22:58 stevan the doctor told me that I shouldnt expect the rash to come back
22:59 marcus :D
23:18 marcus wow, suddenly wifi recovered on the laptop
23:18 marcus stevan: I take it back, your code comes out perfect, godlike every time.
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