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garu |
I'm not sure it's on the right place |
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garu |
nor if it's the case |
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garu |
but I think we should mention our license |
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garu |
(somewhere) |
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moritz |
hi, upon request by azawawi this channel is now publicly logged at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today - if anybody objects please /kick ilbot2 and/or tell me ;-) |
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szabgab |
moritz, thanks |
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szabgab |
garu, I am not sure that is correct there |
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szabgab |
we can upload to the server stuff that we won't distribute with Padre |
| 07:36 |
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szabgab |
on the other hand , maybe it is ok |
| 07:36 |
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szabgab |
in the end I think we better consult a lawyer |
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garu |
szabgab, yeah, that's what I thought... however, we cannot upload to the server something proprietary |
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garu |
like a monkey island binary :) |
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szabgab |
garu, I asked the dw people and theysay they don't have the 'age' thing there because they don't let children under 13 use their service and because of COPPA |
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* garu |
misses his old ms-dos games |
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szabgab |
garu, yes |
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szabgab |
I am also planning to add a separate page describing the license of Padre itself |
| 07:38 |
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szabgab |
Every time I look at a project I check its license to make sure it is open source and yet Padre does not have it on its website, yet |
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Ryan52 |
szabgab: ah, that makes sense. |
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garu |
szabgab, good idea |
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garu |
szabgab, I don't think we need to worry about COPPA --> http://www.coppa.org/comply.htm |
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szabgab |
garu http://geekfeminism.org/2009/0[…]only/#comment-227 |
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Ryan52 |
ya, it only affects online services, I think. |
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szabgab |
reading |
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garu |
not that, just check "personal information" |
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garu |
as long as there is no way one can identify and contact the kid online (via the website, irc is not web), it's not "personal information" |
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Ryan52 |
those COPPA laws are kind of silly anyways. |
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garu |
most US laws are, unfortunately |
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Ryan52 |
they forgot one important detail.. kids know how to lie about their age :) |
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garu |
or perhaps I should s/US// to that statement :) |
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garu |
"Of course you can always comment on your own code that it is crappy as long as it is clear to everyone that you are talking about your own code. " |
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Ryan52 |
:D |
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garu |
so we should s/TODO: Make this code suck less/TODO: Make my code here suck less/ |
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garu |
? |
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Ryan52 |
ya probably |
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Ryan52 |
or s/suck less/better/ :) |
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garu |
naah... that's politically correctly taking all the fun in coding :) |
| 07:49 |
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garu |
I for one don't bash on other people's code, but I'm really overcritical on my own code |
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garu |
specially when I -know- it sucks |
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Ryan52 |
I think all coders are that way. |
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garu |
exactly |
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garu |
ergo, we all suck :) |
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Ryan52 |
heh :) |
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garu |
it's just a matter of wanting to make the world a better place (or Padre a better IDE), one crappy line of code at a time :) |
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garu |
like szabgab once said, that's the beauty of collaboration... you write a feature stub with crappy code and before you know it it's all improved and shiny |
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szabgab |
garu, I think we should add that to the TODOs in code |
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szabgab |
and probably should also sign it so people know who is saying that |
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szabgab |
TODO: I know it sucks but I added this code in a hurry, please fix it - szabgba |
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szabgab |
with correct spelling of your name |
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garu |
heh |
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szabgab |
just put yourself in the shoes of someone who is not into the hard-core perl community yet who sees the code full of comments "this sucks fix it" |
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Ryan52 |
tough love? :) |
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szabgab |
and then thinks to herself, hmm, so I'll write some code that is not to the liking of this szabgab guy and he will tell me my code sucks |
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szabgab |
and for that matter tell the whole world my code sucks |
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szabgab |
I got such comments from several people and it hurt |
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szabgab |
even though I have some experience in the community |
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szabgab |
the Perl community I mean |
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garu |
we just say she's not good enough --> http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/arc[…]rent-good-enough/ |
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Ryan52 |
who is that? |
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szabgab |
mst |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7478 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7478 |
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Hyppolit |
Big clean up of code. |
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Hyppolit |
* removed VCI references. |
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Hyppolit |
* removed system calls to svn |
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Hyppolit |
* all methods should now use SVN::Class |
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Hyppolit |
* waiting on SVN::Class 0.15 with patch for multiline commits then roll out the lib line. |
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Hyppolit |
branches/Padre-Plugin-SVN-waxhead/lib/Padre/Plugin/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7479 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7479 |
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Hyppolit |
Added "Blame" to the SVN plugin. |
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Hyppolit |
Cleaned up some more code. |
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Hyppolit |
branches/Padre-Plugin-SVN-waxhead/lib/Padre/Plugin/ |
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azawawi |
hello |
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Sewi |
hi azawawi |
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azawawi |
alright http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today is on :) |
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azawawi |
moritz_++ |
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azawawi |
hello |
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azawawi |
szabgab: could we add http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today to #padre welcome message? |
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szabgab |
to the topic you mean ? |
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szabgab |
you can also do that as you are an OP |
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azawawi |
yeah |
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szabgab |
but I'll do it |
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azawawi |
judging that i didnt know its name is a topic :) |
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azawawi |
you can guess the rest lol |
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szabgab |
you just need to say /topic whatever is the new topic |
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azawawi |
nice |
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szabgab |
and it overwrites the previous one |
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* azawawi |
back to Perl 5 quick fixes :) |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i remember you had a list of common Perl 5 errors somewhere.... |
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azawawi |
things are a bit hazy with fasting. low on sugar :) |
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szabgab |
on our wiki somewhere |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7480 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7480 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Refactoring quick fix calls... |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
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szabgab |
azawawi, can't you just sleep over most of the day and work at night? |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7481 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7481 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] The story of Perl 5's quick fix begins... |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/ |
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azawawi |
szabgab: no :) |
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azawawi |
szabgab: beside even if we're low on sugar, there is so much left :) |
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azawawi |
szabgab: and work ends at 15:00 lol |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7482 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7482 |
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Hyppolit |
add copyright and license to download page and to a separare legal.html page linked from the footer |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/lib/ trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7483 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7483 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Moved & fixed pod docs |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7484 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7484 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Fix the quick fix provider |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7485 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7485 |
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Hyppolit |
[Perl 6] Quick fixes are working again ... i hope :) |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Padre/Plugin/Perl6/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7486 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7486 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Perl 5 'use strict; use warning;' quick fix is brewing |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7487 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7487 |
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Hyppolit |
[Perl 6] Perl tidy |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Padre/Plugin/Perl6/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7488 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7488 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Perl tidy |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7489 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7489 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Perl's 'use strict; use warnings;' is implemented. Not refactored though :) |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/ |
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* azawawi |
back to sleep :) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7490 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7490 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Updated Changes |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7491 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7491 |
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Hyppolit |
[SDL] add exampla dragging butterfly without a tail |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-SDL/lib/Padre/Plugin/SDL/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-SDL/share/examples/ |
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El_Che |
szabgab: following ubuntu steps? |
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szabgab |
El_Che, what do you mean ? |
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szabgab |
ah the code of conduct? |
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El_Che |
yes |
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szabgab |
yes and those of DreamWidth |
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El_Che |
making explecit something pretty obvious and yet not always respected |
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szabgab |
the code of conduct I added is especially something that we already fell in the trap several times |
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szabgab |
I hope that the padre developers will agree that we should eliminate such behavior from our community |
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El_Che |
do you forsee negative reactions? |
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szabgab |
maybe questions of clarifications |
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szabgab |
the question of course is how do we make sure we act according to these guidelines? |
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El_Che |
the tricky thing is when to kick people out |
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El_Che |
you'll getting committees, etc |
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rindolf |
Hi all. |
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rindolf |
szabgab: about http://padre.perlide.org/code_of_conduct.html |
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rindolf |
szabgab: the font is too small and enlarging it (using Ctrl++) results in a horizontal scrollbar. |
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rindolf |
szabgab: ping. |
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Ryan52 |
okay, the code of conduct is important. good idea szabgab. |
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Ryan52 |
today I saw some lead developers of a project being really rude, and thought to myself "this is exactly why I went MIA on your project". |
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El_Che |
centos? |
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Ryan52 |
El_Che: hm? |
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El_Che |
there is some trouble in centos-land lately, I thought you were pointing to that |
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Ryan52 |
nah, just the debian installer team...nothing big really. |
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szabgab |
rindolf, I think it is the same font size as on the rest of the pages but yeah, they seem to be a bit small |
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rindolf |
szabgab: OK. |
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szabgab |
you did not feel them small on the other pages? |
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rindolf |
szabgab: didn't look. |
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rindolf |
Let me do that. |
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rindolf |
http://padre.perlide.org/ - here it's OK. |
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rindolf |
http://padre.perlide.org/download.html - also her. |
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rindolf |
Oh wait. |
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rindolf |
Firefox may have remembered my Ctrl-+ setting |
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rindolf |
http://padre.perlide.org/download.html - oh yes, it's small. |
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rindolf |
http://padre.perlide.org/support.html - here it is also small. |
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szabgab |
so needs to tinker with the css I guess |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7492 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7492 |
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Hyppolit |
enlarge font on web site |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/documentroot/static/ |
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szabgab |
rindolf, what about now ? |
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rindolf |
szabgab: let me see. |
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rindolf |
szabgab: seems a bit better. |
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rindolf |
Or not. |
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rindolf |
http://padre.perlide.org/code_of_conduct.html |
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rindolf |
Oh wait, now the font is larger, but I'm getting a horizontal scrollbar. |
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rindolf |
With the text cut-off. |
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rindolf |
Who created this stylesheet? |
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szabgab |
it is mostly submersible , I just increased the font size by 25% |
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szabgab |
he is in .au so probably no awake now |
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submersible |
yeah baby - look a diversity stmt and legals |
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