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| 00:12 | perletc joined #padre | |
| 00:50 | azawawi joined #padre | |
| 00:50 | azawawi | hi |
| 00:58 | Ryan52 | hi azawawi |
| 01:22 | user_6029 joined #padre | |
| 01:23 | azawawi joined #padre | |
| 01:24 | * user_6029 | had the exquisite pleasure of New->Perl6 and crashing Padre... |
| 01:25 | azawawi | interesting |
| 01:25 | 0.41? | |
| 01:25 | user_6029 | ...then I notepad'ed up a "z.p6" with "say 'Hello'", opened it in Padre, ensuring that it's Viewed As Perl6, and pressed F5... |
| 01:25 | ...and it said something like "The execution mode of this document had not defined"... | |
| 01:26 | azawawi | i see |
| 01:26 | user_6029 | ...and then I pressed ctrl-F5, typing in "1+1"; again it said "failed to start running the program"... |
| 01:26 | Yes, 0.41 combined +6 installer, WinXP | |
| 01:26 | azawawi | Six? |
| 01:26 | user_6029 | aye. |
| 01:26 | this is my first time ever tried padre or joining the #padre channel... | |
| 01:26 | azawawi | hmmm we should release a new 0.44 soon that solves most problems |
| 01:27 | 0.41 was alpha (first release of everything) | |
| 01:27 | user_6029 | Hah, actually! |
| 01:27 | Start Padre, New... -> Perl 5 SCript | |
| 01:27 | also crashed Padre. | |
| 01:27 | azawawi | i know |
| 01:27 | user_6029 | so it's not like anything p6 specific :) |
| 01:28 | azawawi | in 0.41 we switched to new mimetypes module that screwed a couple of things :) |
| 01:28 | user_6029 | I'd say! ;) |
| 01:28 | Ryan52 | what's ctrl-f5 do? |
| 01:28 | azawawi | runs a command |
| 01:28 | user_6029 joined #padre | |
| 01:28 | user_6029 | Ctrl-F5 runs a line of code immediately |
| 01:28 | Ryan52 | with perl? |
| 01:28 | ah. | |
| 01:28 | user_6029 | as for running under which mode, it did not say. |
| 01:28 | azawawi | welcome back user_6029 |
| 01:29 | Ryan52 | has my REPL plugin been replaced? |
| 01:29 | user_6029 | sorry, misclicked Ctrl-W |
| 01:29 | * Ryan52 | has been using an old version of Padre in production for a long time. too long.. |
| 01:30 | azawawi | Ryan52: I think we should release soon so users can see what we've doing. |
| 01:30 | user_6029 | Uhm, the topic says latest is 0.43 |
| 01:30 | but http://padre.perlide.org/download.html and trac shows 0.41? | |
| 01:30 | Ryan52 | azawawi: why are you telling me this? |
| 01:31 | user_6029 | are we midway during the 0.43 release and if so, url to a 0.43 installer or build instructions? |
| 01:31 | azawawi | Ryan52: i thought you were the new release manager... |
| 01:31 | user_6029: cpan Padre | |
| 01:31 | Ryan52 | azawawi: nope, garu is still the release monkey for 2 more releases. |
| 01:31 | (last I heard) | |
| 01:31 | azawawi | Ryan52: again with the monkeys thing :) |
| 01:32 | Ryan52 | yes :) |
| 01:32 | user_6029 | aha, Ctrl-F5 runs a "shell" comand! That isn't very much well-translated |
| 01:32 | Ryan52 | ah, yay, my plugin hasn't been replaced |
| 01:32 | :P | |
| 01:32 | * user_6029 | had the exquisite pleasure of typing "print 1" in Ctrl-F5 and then, get: |
| 01:32 | user_6029 | �L�k�Ұ� PRN �˸m |
| 01:32 | which is hilarious :) | |
| 01:33 | ok, so New...->whataever crashes, P6 execution mode generally doesn't work, but P5 looks solid. got it. | |
| 01:33 | thanks for the quick feedback! | |
| 01:33 | azawawi | no problem i just woke up :) |
| 01:33 | user_6029: try upgrading your Padre | |
| 01:34 | user_6029 | embarrasingly, I thought 0.41 was newest. how do I upgrade? |
| 01:34 | (using the combined installer .msi) | |
| 01:34 | azawawi | user_6029: 'cpan Padre' on the command line should do it |
| 01:35 | user_6029 | ah. well it'd help if, like other projects, the Help menu contains a "check for updates" |
| 01:35 | * user_6029 | takes notes |
| 01:35 | user_6029 | upgrading... |
| 01:35 | azawawi | user_6029: agreed |
| 01:35 | user_6029 | it's using this slightly-slower-at-the-start CPAN::SQLite module... |
| 01:36 | azawawi | that's strawberry's... |
| 01:37 | packaging win32 Six was an idea. We wanted to make it easier for people to try Padre | |
| 01:37 | user_6029 | yeah, I know, I was glad they did that (well CPANPLUS::SQLite would also be nice, but whatever one works, works) |
| 01:38 | * azawawi | fetches the change log |
| 01:38 | user_6029 | I guess I should switch to semi-permanent irssi+screen instead of this (very neat!) anonymous web irc client |
| 01:38 | azawawi | user_6029: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]/Changes?rev=7490 |
| 01:39 | user_6029: as you can see a lot has been fixed/added | |
| 01:39 | user_6029: :) | |
| 01:39 | user_6029 | - Temporarily remove PAR support (ADAMK) |
| 01:39 | azawawi | or removed :) |
| 01:39 | user_6029 | aww :-/ I wonder why. Perhaps I can help... |
| 01:40 | the upgrading process is still installing PPI. | |
| 01:40 | azawawi | building six distro is like 3-6 hours |
| 01:40 | user_6029 | time to rent EC2 instances |
| 01:41 | ? | |
| 01:41 | I mean, they designed EC2 to do this kind of thing... | |
| 01:41 | azawawi | CSJewel is doing it on his old laptop. He's the strawberry's pumpking. |
| 01:41 | user_6029 | right, but whenever I need temporary high speed computation, I rent an Amazon EC2 instance |
| 01:42 | azawawi | user_6029: never used |
| 01:42 | user_6029 | it's cheap and could probably build a distro in 30 minutes, which costs $1 or something... |
| 01:42 | azawawi | user_6029: interesting |
| 01:42 | how fast can they give u? | |
| 01:42 | user_6029 | ok, padre upgraded herself (wow, nice splash screen!) |
| 01:42 | azawawi | user_6029: cpan Padre::Plugin::Perl6 |
| 01:43 | that's Padre :: Plugin :: Perl6 in case of mibbit's emiticons | |
| 01:45 | audreyt joined #padre | |
| 01:45 | audreyt | there. much better than anonymous web irc :) |
| 01:45 | azawawi | wow :) |
| 01:45 | no way! | |
| 01:45 | welcome back | |
| 01:45 | audreyt | glad to be back :) |
| 01:46 | so let's see... Amazon EC2 instances give you as many cores as you want, opteron-class ~2ghz | |
| 01:46 | 4 or 8 cores are common. | |
| 01:46 | azawawi | im speechless |
| 01:46 | audreyt | no idea how much the build proc can be parallelized, though. |
| 01:47 | azawawi | nice |
| 01:48 | audreyt | cool, New...->* actually works now, and the upgrade process was smooth. the black console is a bit scary when starting up on win32 -- we can take that out easily with Win32::Exe -- but maybe it was there for diagnostics msg? |
| 01:48 | weird, when I saved it as .p6 it no longer runs. maybe it still wants the .pl extension just with "use v6;"? trying... | |
| 01:49 | azawawi | audreyt: i think you have to set "STD.pm" from "Edit/Preferences/Files and Colors"... |
| 01:49 | audreyt | isn't it just for highlighting? |
| 01:49 | trying | |
| 01:49 | azawawi | audreyt: also make sure you have the latest Syntax::Highlight::Perl6 (which is basically STD.pmc) |
| 01:50 | audreyt: i know the highlighting sucks but it should be accurate... or that was its goal in the beginning :) | |
| 01:50 | audreyt | hey, there's a STD.pmc nowadays? seeing "STD" and "pmc" together makes me, like, proud :) |
| 01:51 | no, highlighting is fine now after setting the pref | |
| 01:51 | it's pressing F5 that doesn't work: | |
| 01:51 | Perl v6.0.0 required--this is only v5.10.0, stopped at C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\test.pl line 1. | |
| 01:52 | azawawi | audreyt: it should detect six under c:\strawberry\six |
| 01:52 | audreyt: if not try setting RAKUDO_DIR to c:\strawberry\six | |
| 01:52 | most of the team is asleep | |
| 01:53 | audreyt | I see |
| 01:53 | I think the root cause is the File+Color pref doesn't stick | |
| 01:54 | azawawi | audreyt: i also started Perl6::Refactor but did not have the time to finish it (the script inside does the rename var and find declaration thingie) |
| 01:54 | audreyt | if you set "File type:" to anything but perl5 |
| 01:54 | hit save | |
| 01:54 | then open pref again | |
| 01:54 | it reverts back to perl5. | |
| 01:54 | so it's conceivable that it could not assume any other runmode. | |
| 01:55 | azawawi | audreyt:ah that elusive bug... i think you need to set Perl 5 to PPI and Perl 6 to STD.pm |
| 01:55 | audreyt: we have several highlighters | |
| 01:55 | audreyt | I see noly scintilla in the dropdown |
| 01:55 | I guess that means I need to install the rest by hand. | |
| 01:55 | :) | |
| 01:55 | azawawi | audreyt: :) |
| 01:56 | audreyt: strange Perl 5 should have at least 3. They're in core. | |
| 01:57 | audreyt: scintilla, PPI standard, and PPI experimental | |
| 01:57 | audreyt: and we have Kate highlighting but that's not complete | |
| 01:57 | audreyt | - ERROR: App::Grok (0.17) is installed, but we need version >= 0.19 |
| 01:57 | - ERROR: Syntax::Highlight::Perl6 (0.65) is installed, but we need version >= | |
| 01:57 | .71 | |
| 01:57 | - ERROR: Padre (0.43) is installed, but we need version >= 0.44 | |
| 01:58 | when installing your P::Plugin::P6 | |
| 01:58 | azawawi | force it :) |
| 01:58 | audreyt | I see that the "notest force" culture haven't changed during my two years long absence... |
| 01:58 | azawawi | i was delaying the release until 0.44 for a Padre API break... |
| 01:59 | partly it is my fault, i released it thinking that 0.44 will be released soon | |
| 02:00 | garu is the release manager here for now... | |
| 02:00 | it should actually be released today (monday) | |
| 02:00 | audreyt | 'sall good then.. |
| 02:00 | I mean, as long as they work together I really don't mind forcing an install | |
| 02:01 | and it's pulling in an entire moosechain... | |
| 02:01 | azawawi | they should :) |
| 02:01 | STD.pmc... | |
| 02:02 | audreyt | and we're back! restarting the butterfly... |
| 02:03 | heh, _now_ I see the two previously unshownn PPI modes | |
| 02:03 | but still P::P::P6 haven't been seen as a highlighter. | |
| 02:03 | is that not the only module I need installing? | |
| 02:04 | azawawi | could u paste a list of stuff you need to upgrade on cpan? |
| 02:04 | audreyt | all I did was force installed padre and force installed P::P::P6 |
| 02:04 | based on the combined six installer .msi | |
| 02:04 | azawawi | hmmm |
| 02:05 | i use trunk all the time | |
| 02:05 | wait... i'll download it and try upgrading myself | |
| 02:05 | audreyt | and I should too, but I was deliberating trying from a user pov -- adamk grinded that pov to me years ago |
| 02:06 | and I'm sure alias is still grinding that into everyone... | |
| 02:06 | azawawi | yeah he does :) |
| 02:07 | http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/39468?from=rss | |
| 02:07 | audreyt | yeah, I read that, |
| 02:07 | that was why I decided to try logging into #padre as my first irc channcel... | |
| 02:08 | azawawi | cool |
| 02:08 | im glad you did that :) | |
| 02:08 | audreyt | and I'm glad that padre no longer rely on the .p6 extension :) |
| 02:09 | azawawi | yeah i asked szabgab to drop it but he wanted it for some slides |
| 02:09 | audreyt | imagine how horrible if there were .p5 and .pm5 etc flying around from 1994 to this day :) |
| 02:09 | it's ok to have it recognize .p6 as a valid extension, just not nice to rely on that extension to be known as p6 | |
| 02:10 | azawawi | we're past that now... detection is fairly good even with MooseX::Declare |
| 02:11 | audreyt | excellent. |
| 02:11 | we use MX::* heavily in daily $job at socialtext | |
| 02:11 | still waiting for solidifying toolchain around MX::Decl to switch to that | |
| 02:11 | and by waiting, of course we mean hacking :) | |
| 02:12 | hey, it's nice knowing you -- I esp. like the human touch on the http://padre.perlide.org/developers.html page -- but I need to run for brunch and finding a place with better wifi. | |
| 02:12 | azawawi | I am working on Perl 5/6 quick fixes (for errors and warnings). And Perl 5/6 help search... |
| 02:12 | audreyt | be back later, and thanks for handholding a newcomer! :) |
| 02:12 | azawawi | thanks a lot. |
| 02:12 | come back soon :) | |
| 02:13 | audreyt | yes, I saw that in the trac and in the bios :) P6 itself is a language factory, and to refactor a factory and you approach technological singularity jus ta bit closer... |
| 02:13 | I'll stay here in fact; that's what screen is for :) ttyl! | |
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| 03:03 | azawawi | garu: pingo |
| 03:30 | CSJewell joined #padre | |
| 03:52 | mohsen joined #padre | |
| 04:36 | szabgab | azawawi, I am sure you were glad you did not explain the complexity of PPI to user_6029 :-) |
| 04:38 | azawawi | :) |
| 04:38 | http://ahmadzawawi.blogspot.co[…]e-almost-six.html | |
| 04:39 | szabgab: i think you need to blog about user_6029 :) | |
| 04:40 | szabgab: today was a great day :) | |
| 04:40 | mohsen joined #padre | |
| 04:41 | szabgab | hmm, let me think how to make it catchy |
| 04:42 | azawawi | user_6029 visits #padre :) |
| 04:42 | make sure you link to http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/2009-08-24 | |
| 04:42 | szabgab | I was thinking along the line "why is it important to be nice to newbies" |
| 04:44 | azawawi, one fix to your blog post: | |
| 04:44 | Please note that Padre always installs / Please note that this version of Padre installs | |
| 04:45 | or even better: please note that this packages only installs .. | |
| 04:46 | azawawi | i see |
| 04:48 | ok fixed | |
| 04:51 | CSJewell | azawawi: My last name has 2 L's at the end of it. :) |
| 04:53 | azawawi | fixed :) |
| 04:54 | hmmm if we can package Rakudo in cpan, then upgrading will be easy ( i think :) ) | |
| 04:54 | the binaries that is | |
| 04:55 | garu | azawawi, pongo! :) |
| 04:55 | azawawi | el-pongo from mars? :) |
| 04:55 | long timeout | |
| 04:55 | garu | :) |
| 04:56 | azawawi | garu: please check the backlog :) |
| 04:56 | garu | it circled earth 65536 times before reaching me |
| 04:56 | I did! audrey's back! yay! | |
| 04:57 | azawawi | and i added one small perl 5 quick fix |
| 04:57 | try it | |
| 04:57 | garu | she probably doesn't remember me, but we met when she went to rio |
| 04:57 | azawawi, you did? | |
| 04:57 | ooh | |
| 04:57 | let me check | |
| 04:57 | azawawi | on an empty doc, use strict; use warnings; check... |
| 04:59 | i think 0.44 is ready to go. Anything against releasing it? :) | |
| 05:01 | and 0.43 has a perl 5.8.x compatibility problem.... "someone" i know added a // | |
| 05:01 | garu | hehehhe |
| 05:02 | yeah, I'm thinking of releasing it now :) | |
| 05:02 | it's 2am here, but what the hell | |
| 05:02 | it's monday for most of you :) | |
| 05:03 | CSJewell | Not me yet, garu. 11pm here. |
| 05:03 | azawawi | CSJewell: any plans for 5.10.1? |
| 05:03 | garu | CSJewell, US, right? |
| 05:04 | azawawi, I can't get an error that gives me a quick fix :( | |
| 05:04 | my creativity is short today... | |
| 05:04 | azawawi | garu: not error for now, just open a new document and then ctrl-2 |
| 05:04 | CSJewell | azawawi: I've got a beta Strawberry built with it, I just need to update the appropriate pages. |
| 05:04 | garu: yes. | |
| 05:05 | garu | azawawi, aaahhh, strict and warnings, cool |
| 05:06 | azawawi | garu: i made the initial stuff we need to get going in Padre 0.44 |
| 05:06 | garu: my main focus is to keep it stable for CSJewell's release | |
| 05:07 | pece joined #padre | |
| 05:07 | azawawi | work & |
| 05:07 | CSJewell | I'm not going to do 5.10.1 for this round of Padre builds, but will do it for September's. |
| 05:08 | garu | CSJewell, did you get a chance to review the "stable" release plan? |
| 05:09 | CSJewell | I've heard a few things about it... Is there a web page/blog entry/e-mail with more details? |
| 05:09 | garu | not yet |
| 05:09 | see what you think: | |
| 05:09 | we release 0.44 monday (today) | |
| 05:09 | then we create a 0.45 branch | |
| 05:10 | people continue mangling with trunk | |
| 05:10 | and we get bugfixes and translations merged to the 0.45 branch | |
| 05:10 | so friday you and me can release a "stable" 0.45 | |
| 05:10 | CSJewell | OK. That should work. |
| 05:11 | garu | even though trunk will probably have more features, but that only means Ryan52 can release 0.46 at that very same day if he wants (only it will not be "stable", meaning new features but no .msi) |
| 05:16 | CSJewell | Any changes in dependencies I should know about? |
| 05:16 | sri_ joined #padre | |
| 05:17 | Sewi joined #padre | |
| 05:18 | garu | CSJewell, knowing Alias, probably :) |
| 05:19 | but most likely less dependencies, not more | |
| 05:19 | CSJewell | Good. |
| 05:20 | Ryan52 | CSJewell: we (the downstream distributors) should write a tool that "diffs" dependencies. |
| 05:23 | szabgab | diff the Makefile.PL between the last tag and trunk |
| 05:24 | CSJewell | Well... That assumes that things that Padre depends on did not add/subtract, and same thing for PPP6. |
| 05:25 | szabgab | ah |
| 05:28 | CSJewell | I'd have to diff the Makefile.PL recursively. :( |
| 05:29 | I know there's one additional dependency to Strawberry for July already... | |
| 05:29 | since July, I mean. | |
| 05:32 | garu | szabgab, one thing that might be troublesome |
| 05:32 | is that we'll need to keep monitoring trunk for the whole week | |
| 05:32 | orienting devs to also commit fixes to the stable branch | |
| 05:32 | szabgab | I would go the opposite way |
| 05:32 | tell the translators to do things on the branch | |
| 05:33 | and implement the critical bug fixes on the branch only | |
| 05:33 | here is where git would be much better of course | |
| 05:34 | Ryan52 | CSJewell: make it recursive? :) |
| 05:35 | CSJewell | I was thinking (for in the future) use that nice CPANDB stuff that Alias is hacking on to get the data to diff. (use a snapshot from around the last release-time, then snapshot it again and diff that.) |
| 05:38 | garu | szabgab, cool, but we'll still have to make sure devs and translators are complying |
| 05:38 | it's very easy to forget, specially since one needs to svn switch and all | |
| 05:40 | szabgab | yes, so we should communicate it via the e-mail and the IRC channel |
| 05:42 | garu | right |
| 05:43 | are we go for 0.44 release now? | |
| 05:45 | szabgab | I think so |
| 05:45 | http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/08/1251089599.html | |
| 05:45 | can someone look at that blog post and tell me if is ok? | |
| 05:47 | if I am not overdoing something there | |
| 05:48 | garu | I'm reading it now |
| 05:49 | szabgab, she wasn't "posing as newbie"... she -is- a Padre newbie :) | |
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| 05:53 | garu | szabgab, so maybe the end could be "the newbie in your project might turn out to be the person who created a lot of the modules it depends on" |
| 05:54 | with Alias, tsee, jq and audrey, it only gets better if we see "mattia has joined #padre" :) | |
| 05:54 | szabgab | and maybe TimToday ;-) |
| 05:55 | garu | :) |
| 05:56 | szabgab, maybe we can get him to say what he'd want on an IDE, so we can put "When I code, be it Perl 5 or Perl 6, I always use Padre (TimToady)" | |
| 05:56 | just like the strawberry advertisement | |
| 05:57 | szabgab | we just have to make Padre interesting enough for him to use it |
| 05:57 | Ryan52 | tho he's probably a hard core vim user. (or something) |
| 05:57 | szabgab | azawawi made quite a few steps in that direction I think |
| 05:57 | * Ryan52 | says that about most "famous" programmers |
| 05:57 | garu | yeah, which is why we could ask him what he'd want on an IDE |
| 05:58 | let's face it, most of us are hardcore vim/emacs users | |
| 05:58 | and padre is getting to us little by little | |
| 05:58 | feature by feature | |
| 05:58 | (or notepad++ for win32 users) | |
| 05:59 | today was a really cool day for Padre, because we got audreyt to use Padre | |
| 06:00 | and for what I read, she's here for the long run, which is great | |
| 06:00 | so, little by little, feature by feature, we are getting people's attention | |
| 06:01 | szabgab | garu, do you have sdl installed ? |
| 06:01 | garu | szabgab, yeah |
| 06:01 | which reminds me, I haven't tested the sdl plugin yet | |
| 06:02 | szabgab | then try the 08 and 09 examples |
| 06:02 | garu | okay, hold on |
| 06:02 | szabgab | perl Padre-Plugin-SDL/share/examples/08-drag-image.pl |
| 06:02 | there is not much to see in the plugin itself yet | |
| 06:04 | garu | I love the fact that it's less and less common to get "leaked scalars" output after running dev.pl... I just hope it's not just because we disabled that output :P |
| 06:04 | szabgab | maybe all the scalars have already leaked and no more is left |
| 06:05 | garu | Can't locate auto/SDL/IMGLoad.al |
| 06:05 | szabgab | have you installed SDL from CPAN? |
| 06:06 | garu | yeah |
| 06:06 | 2.2.1 here | |
| 06:06 | szabgab | then either remove that and install from aptitude or ... 1 sec |
| 06:07 | garu | holy crap Frozen Bubble stopped working!!!! |
| 06:07 | damn new SDL | |
| 06:07 | szabgab | install the dependencies http://wiki.github.com/kthakor[…]perl/dependencies |
| 06:07 | and the rebuild SDL | |
| 06:08 | yes, kthakore knows about the problems and is fixing them | |
| 06:09 | garu | wait... I need to rebuild SDL by hand? like good old slackware? |
| 06:10 | why isn't an updated version on ubuntu? | |
| 06:11 | szabgab, (OT) should we remove the "updated Czech translation" from the Changes files? | |
| 06:11 | or is it "created Czech translation" ? | |
| 06:12 | szabgab | garu, it was an update, I think you can remove it |
| 06:12 | garu | ok |
| 06:12 | szabgab | garu, SDL, what I meant is that you have to reinstall SDL_Perl after you installed the dependencies |
| 06:12 | so it can find them and compile with them | |
| 06:13 | reinstall from CPAN | |
| 06:13 | garu | hmm... but I have all those libs installed (including their -dev packages) on ubuntu |
| 06:13 | let me try removing SDL perl lib | |
| 06:14 | azawawi joined #padre | |
| 06:14 | azawawi | im back |
| 06:14 | :) | |
| 06:14 | Hyppolit | svn: r7493 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7493 |
| 06:14 | removed note on updated translation | |
| 06:14 | trunk/Padre/ | |
| 06:15 | garu | azawawi, too bad we actually have to run the code to get some errors on perl5... meaning quick fix might need to magically find them |
| 06:16 | Ryan52 | debian/ubuntu have outdated version of sdl perl? |
| 06:16 | I can fix that.. | |
| 06:16 | azawawi | garu: not magically, find errors in output :) |
| 06:17 | garu | azawawi, yeah, but we have to run the code for the first time though |
| 06:17 | Ryan52, I don't know, can you check it out please? | |
| 06:17 | azawawi | garu: i see |
| 06:17 | CSJewell: ping | |
| 06:18 | CSJewell | What? |
| 06:18 | Ryan52 | garu: ok, emailing current debian maintainers asking why it's outdated and offering to help.. |
| 06:18 | azawawi | CSJewell: for dependencies, see the errors/warnings in http://ahmadzawawi.blogspot.co[…]e-almost-six.html |
| 06:18 | szabgab | Ryan52, it isn't I think |
| 06:19 | CSJewell | What I meant was if there was any dependencies that needed added or removed... I'll pick up updated ones. |
| 06:19 | szabgab | it is just the SDL_Perl development restarted a fee weeks ago and the new releases are still a bit shaky |
| 06:19 | but I have to go now to locate a place with AC | |
| 06:20 | azawawi | i added a Perl6::Doc requirement to make sure we have (although this is covered by App::Grok) |
| 06:20 | szabgab | later& |
| 06:21 | Ryan52 | damnit, now I'm playing frozen bubble and can't stop. |
| 06:21 | :P | |
| 06:21 | garu | (frozen bubble)++ |
| 06:22 | azawawi | what's that game? :) |
| 06:22 | garu | what?! |
| 06:22 | Sewi | Ryan52: It's a known problem with this game. |
| 06:22 | garu | azawawi, you don't know frozen bubble?! |
| 06:23 | azawawi, it's a small silly and -extremely- addictive game | |
| 06:23 | azawawi | now i know it :) |
| 06:23 | garu | some people claim it was solely responsible for delaying a debian release |
| 06:23 | Sewi | lol |
| 06:23 | azawawi | i see |
| 06:24 | garu | azawawi, and it's written in SDL_perl :) |
| 06:25 | azawawi | i see |
| 06:25 | lovely | |
| 06:25 | no win32 port then | |
| 06:25 | garu | http://www.frozen-bubble.org/ |
| 06:25 | azawawi, yeah.... maybe you should try and port it :) | |
| 06:26 | it'll probably help a lot the new SDL_Perl team :) | |
| 06:26 | and the whole perl gaming community | |
| 06:26 | Ryan52 | hahaha |
| 06:27 | azawawi | any idea how to generate permanent links to github.com files? |
| 06:28 | garu | I'm not sure I follow |
| 06:28 | azawawi | i.e. latest version... |
| 06:28 | im trying to link to http://github.com/cowens/perlopref/tree/master | |
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| 06:28 | azawawi | to perlopref (Perl Operator Reference) |
| 06:28 | but that's like http://github.com/cowens/perlo[…]29a/perlopref.pod | |
| 06:28 | and changes for each new version | |
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| 06:29 | Ryan52 | azawawi: s/biglonghash/master/ |
| 06:29 | garu | http://github.com/cowens/perlo[…]ter/perlopref.pod |
| 06:29 | Ryan52 | so http://github.com/cowens/perlo[…]ter/perlopref.pod |
| 06:29 | garu | azawawi, ^^ |
| 06:29 | Ryan52 | ya, what he said. |
| 06:30 | azawawi | Ryan52: cool http://github.com/cowens/perlo[…]ter/perlopref.pod |
| 06:30 | garu | azawawi, when you get to http://github.com/cowens/perlopref/tree/master, just append the wanted filename and github will resolve the link to that blob one |
| 06:31 | * azawawi | hmmm... asking really works :) |
| 06:34 | garu | :) |
| 06:34 | Hyppolit | svn: r7494 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7494 |
| 06:34 | [Padre/tools] parse_perlopref.pl is using github permanent links (Ryan52++, garu++) | |
| 06:34 | trunk/tools/ | |
| 06:35 | svn: r7495 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7495 | |
| 06:35 | [Padre/tools] and it is being renamed into update_perlopref.pl | |
| 06:35 | trunk/tools/ | |
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| 06:39 | garu | Ryan52, did you see ubuntu packages for SDL_net, SDL_svg and SDL_vnc? |
| 06:40 | Ryan52 | nope |
| 06:40 | garu | :( |
| 06:41 | azawawi, are we go for 0.44? | |
| 06:43 | azawawi | yeah |
| 06:43 | im just updating tools outside | |
| 06:43 | * Sewi | is updating the translation... |
| 06:45 | garu | Sewi, thanks! |
| 06:45 | Hyppolit | svn: r7496 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7496 |
| 06:45 | German translation at 100% again | |
| 06:45 | trunk/Padre/share/locale/ | |
| 06:46 | azawawi | let me check the translation |
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| 06:47 | azawawi | garu: release it when you're ready :) |
| 06:47 | szabgab | garu, have you managed width SDL ? |
| 06:47 | Hyppolit | svn: r7497 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7497 |
| 06:47 | Updated German translation to 100% | |
| 06:47 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Padre/Plugin/Perl6/share/locale/ | |
| 06:48 | garu | szabgab, didn't get to fix that problem yet |
| 06:48 | but I've used SDL perl before, if that's what you meant :) | |
| 06:48 | szabgab | ok, shall I tidy the files in Padre? |
| 06:49 | Hyppolit | svn: r7498 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7498 |
| 06:49 | updated brazilian portuguese translation | |
| 06:49 | trunk/Padre/share/locale/ | |
| 06:49 | garu | szabgab, that's the first step of the release, but feel free :) |
| 06:50 | szabgab | yeah, I could do with some more lines of code under my name :-) |
| 06:50 | garu | hahah |
| 06:50 | szabgab, be my guest | |
| 06:50 | szabgab, want to release 0.44? | |
| 06:50 | szabgab | hmm, there was only one file that is not tidy, have you ran it recently ? |
| 06:50 | no thank :-) | |
| 06:50 | garu | damn |
| 06:50 | worth a shot :) | |
| 06:51 | Hyppolit | svn: r7499 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7499 |
| 06:51 | perltidy | |
| 06:51 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/ | |
| 06:51 | garu | szabgab, I ran it on the 0.43 release, maybe azawawi did it |
| 06:54 | Hyppolit | svn: r7500 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7500 |
| 06:54 | update pot file | |
| 06:54 | trunk/Padre/share/locale/ | |
| 06:54 | azawawi | i always perltidy... :) |
| 06:57 | Hyppolit | svn: r7501 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7501 |
| 06:57 | [tools] update_perlopref.pl downloads latest perlopref.pod (Perl Operator references) | |
| 06:57 | [tools] and copies it to its proper place in Padre | |
| 06:57 | trunk/tools/ | |
| 06:59 | garu | hmm... 4am.... better go to sleep and release it on (my) monday |
| 07:00 | g'night everyone! | |
| 07:00 | & | |
| 07:00 | azawawi | good night |
| 07:02 | Hyppolit | svn: r7502 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7502 |
| 07:02 | [Padre] Arabic translation back to 100% | |
| 07:02 | trunk/Padre/share/locale/ | |
| 07:03 | szabgab | night garu |
| 07:10 | Hyppolit | svn: r7503 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7503 |
| 07:10 | set the PPI and Kate highlighter limit to 4000 characters | |
| 07:10 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ | |
| 07:11 | Sewi | What is this quick-fix-function? |
| 07:11 | azawawi | open a new document |
| 07:11 | perl script without use strict; | |
| 07:11 | and then ctrl-2 | |
| 07:12 | the idea is to provides quick fix/solution to errors or other stuff | |
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| 07:12 | Hyppolit | svn: r7504 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7504 |
| 07:12 | [SDL] example redrawing image | |
| 07:12 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-SDL/share/examples/ | |
| 07:12 | Sewi | ah, ok, I understand. Thanks. |
| 07:12 | Alias | audreyt|lunch|afk: Nice to see you alive again |
| 07:12 | * Alias | waves |
| 07:12 | azawawi | :) |
| 07:13 | Hyppolit | svn: r7505 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7505 |
| 07:13 | Updated German translation to 100% | |
| 07:13 | trunk/Padre/share/locale/ | |
| 07:15 | Ryan52 | looks like I'm gonna have to give up on level 23. meh. :P |
| 07:18 | azawawi: is it (ctrl-2) smart enough to do things inside of the "package Foo::Bar"? | |
| 07:19 | azawawi | no yet but is going to... :) |
| 07:19 | copy synopsis... | |
| 07:19 | rename package... | |
| 07:19 | etc... | |
| 07:19 | Ryan52 | nice |
| 07:19 | azawawi | Check whether Foo::Bar is missing from Makefile.PL/Build.PL |
| 07:20 | i stopped so we can release 0.44 :) | |
| 07:21 | Ryan52 | pfft just branch. |
| 07:22 | azawawi | ok :) |
| 07:22 | and im low on sugar :) | |
| 07:22 | * Ryan52 | hands azawawi a candy bar :) |
| 07:22 | azawawi | fasting... :) |
| 07:23 | thx :) | |
| 07:26 | Ryan52 | ah |
| 07:27 | szabgab | The longest I once was fasting was, I think 2 hours |
| 07:29 | Sewi | Seems you don't sleep well :-) |
| 07:31 | Ryan52 | heh |
| 07:31 | Hyppolit | svn: r7506 | fayland++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7506 |
| 07:31 | cn translation | |
| 07:31 | trunk/Padre/share/locale/ | |
| 07:32 | svn: r7507 | fayland++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7507 | |
| 07:32 | cn translation | |
| 07:32 | trunk/Padre/share/locale/ | |
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| 07:35 | * Alias | starting playing around with Padre::FirstTime over the weekend |
| 07:35 | szabgab | user_9115, hi |
| 07:35 | Alias, I wonder if you might need to do that on the 0.45 when it will be available? | |
| 07:36 | Alias | Right |
| 07:36 | It's going to require some changes to Padre::Config | |
| 07:36 | szabgab | btw the replace lexical variable does not seem to work |
| 07:36 | Alias | So I'm going to do it on a branch |
| 07:36 | Need to talk to tsee about the lexical thing | |
| 07:37 | szabgab | then it won't go into the next Almost six release |
| 07:37 | Alias | Yup |
| 07:37 | Will need to be in the third release | |
| 07:37 | But as long as it doesn't crash this time, we'll be making progress | |
| 07:37 | szabgab | which means we might want to hardcode some of our preferences for Almost Six |
| 07:37 | I am not sure I like that workaround | |
| 07:40 | Alias | There's not really a good way to tell if it's your "FirstTime" without integrating it into the config |
| 07:41 | There's some bad ways, if you just want to make it work across the board | |
| 07:41 | Doing default-enable for specific named plugins for example | |
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| 07:52 | El_Che | have yo giys heard, perl support coming for android |
| 07:52 | Padre, the Android IDE :) | |
| 07:53 | Alias | ya |
| 07:53 | Somehow I think it will be another 5 years at least before that happens | |
| 07:53 | I do, however, expect to see a resurgence in the popularity of the ::Tiny modules :) | |
| 07:54 | El_Che | ehehe |
| 07:54 | 5 years, why? | |
| 07:55 | why add it if not to be part of the platform | |
| 07:55 | they could ignore it all together | |
| 07:55 | Alias | Do you really want to spend 100meg+ of ram on your phone? |
| 07:55 | Just to run Padre? | |
| 07:56 | El_Che | nah, not Padre on the phone |
| 07:56 | padre for making phone apps | |
| 07:56 | Alias | ah |
| 07:56 | I don't see why that isn't possible | |
| 07:56 | El_Che | I don't want to programa using "abc" with three clicks for c :) |
| 07:57 | I am just saying that now that android will have android support, an new use oportunity of padre has been created | |
| 07:57 | that wasn't there yesterday | |
| 07:57 | szabgab | aaa00 |
| 07:57 | aaa0000 | |
| 07:57 | El_Che | perl support i mean |
| 07:57 | szabgab | that's c++ |
| 07:58 | will it have SDL_Perl ? | |
| 07:58 | El_Che | http://code.google.com/p/andro[…]e/browse/#hg/perl |
| 07:59 | that's all I know | |
| 07:59 | Hyppolit | svn: r7508 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7508 |
| 07:59 | [SDL] move the images in a subdriectory, add new example based on 09 to be developed | |
| 07:59 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-SDL/share/examples/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-SDL/share/examples/img/ | |
| 07:59 | szabgab | crap, padre just crashed |
| 08:00 | Can't call method "isa" on an undefined value at /home/gabor/work/padre/trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/Lexer.pm line 194. | |
| 08:00 | when I pressed the delete button after marking 3 lines | |
| 08:02 | Hyppolit | svn: r7509 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7509 |
| 08:02 | avoid a crash in the ppi highlighter | |
| 08:02 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ | |
| 08:05 | Alias | More regression tests needed |
| 08:06 | So, you want me to make Perl 6 plugin special cased to be enabled by default? | |
| 08:07 | I'd be happy to see that in mainline even | |
| 08:08 | szabgab | how can you do that? |
| 08:11 | Alias | The config actually supports three states |
| 08:11 | true, false and default | |
| 08:11 | For enabled... or at least I think it does | |
| 08:11 | I'll need to check that | |
| 08:11 | It's considered a preference thing | |
| 08:11 | What does the user want | |
| 08:12 | If they have not expressed a preference, calling ->enabled should return a default | |
| 08:12 | But the underlying stored values remains as default | |
| 08:12 | szabgab | ah nice |
| 08:12 | Alias | Or at least, it does that for the HUMAN store |
| 08:12 | Not so sure about the host-stored plugin table | |
| 08:13 | The idea would be to either | |
| 08:13 | 1. Enable-on-default as a convenience, with optional message to say we did | |
| 08:13 | 2. Ask-on-default | |
| 08:16 | I'm tempted to hard-code Perl 6 to silent default-enable | |
| 08:16 | Inside the plugin manager | |
| 08:16 | In the short-term at least | |
| 08:17 | Sewi | It's better to choose a default than asking the user on first-start many things he doesn't know anything about at this point and usually he doesn't care about when first testing a program. |
| 08:19 | Hyppolit | svn: r7510 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7510 |
| 08:19 | Treat special regexp chars from editor as chars instead of special chars | |
| 08:19 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ | |
| 08:27 | pece | are there ui tests? |
| 08:27 | Alias | A few |
| 08:27 | Not enough | |
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| 08:29 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 08:29 | szabgab: http://downforeveryoneorjustme[…]tp://szabgab.com/ - it's down. | |
| 08:29 | Oh wait. | |
| 08:32 | szabgab | something is very slow in the internyet |
| 08:33 | the server has 0.02 load | |
| 08:43 | pece | http://ss64.com/nt/start.html title in 'start' command may be not optional on NT ? |
| 08:45 | ---------- Find in Files ---------- | |
| 08:45 | Padre-0.43\lib\Padre\Wx\Main.pm"(1632,11):system "start cmd /C \"$cmd\""; | |
| 08:45 | Padre-0.43\t\lib\Padre\Win32.pm"(19,13):my $cmd = "start $perl script\\padre"; | |
| 08:45 | 2 occurrences have been found in 2 files. | |
| 09:07 | teejay | http://use.perl.org/~TeeJay/journal/39518 |
| 09:08 | as requested - a short description of how I extended padre functionality by fiddling with a menu and adding a new dialog | |
| 09:08 | posted code works, but isn't in svn - if ppl are happy with the idea I'll add it and we can polish it | |
| 09:08 | szabgab | rindolf, reading you new response to my blog entry, this is a perfect time to take a break! |
| 09:09 | rindolf | szabgab: who should take a break? |
| 09:09 | szabgab | It seems my ISP where I host my server is belly up |
| 09:09 | rindolf, you | |
| 09:09 | just sleep a big on on it | |
| 09:09 | really | |
| 09:10 | it will look much better after that | |
| 09:12 | rindolf | szabgab: that Ubuntu fiasco happened a long time ago. |
| 09:12 | szabgab: I'm not concerned about it. | |
| 09:12 | szabgab | then don't talk about it |
| 09:13 | * audreyt|lunch|afk | waves back at Alias - in $job right now, can't really chat - but *very* nice to see you folks here :) |
| 09:15 | teejay | I suppose I should commit the insert code, so that the last remaining feature that I noticed gedit had and padre didn't is matched |
| 09:16 | szabgab | for some reason http access to one of my servers in the us us down, it does not yet affect the server with Padre on it |
| 09:17 | teejay | I was able to update trac fine just now :) |
| 09:17 | well, the server was fine, it took me 3 attempts to get the trac syntax right | |
| 09:18 | szabgab | that server is responding |
| 09:19 | I have another one , an older one and szabgab.com is still on the older one | |
| 09:19 | Sewi | Help, please: $self->{Config} = MyApp::MyMod::Config->new($self); (Should create a MyApp::MyMod::Config-object and give the calling object as argument). I keep getting "Usage: Config(self, ...) at <Filename.pm> line 86, <DATA> line 16". Didn't find anything about this message on Google and don't know how to solve it :-( |
| 09:20 | szabgab | I cannot access that machine via http but I can via ssh and I see new requests in the apache log |
| 09:20 | from other people | |
| 09:24 | Sewi | ignore the last one, I used XS:Accessor to define an element called Config and they mixed up :-( Sorry for mis-using the channel. |
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| 09:35 | szabgab | Sewi, np |
| 09:36 | Alias | audreyt|work: fyi, I ripped out PAR support because tsee was getting scared about doing things like system("$^X -c current_document.pl"); |
| 09:36 | audreyt|work: And dealing with all the OTHER command line things like -T | |
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| 09:38 | waxhead | evening |
| 09:46 | rindolf | Hi waxhead |
| 09:46 | szabgab: did you fix the padre's site stylesheet yet? | |
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| 09:48 | Alias | whoa, wth |
| 09:48 | Who took the "Default line ending" preference and turned it into "Forcefully coerce every single file into this style" | |
| 09:49 | szabgab | can you ppl try http://szabgab.com and let me know if responds? |
| 09:49 | Alias, I think I did about 8 month ago | |
| 09:49 | and I regret ever since | |
| 09:49 | but no one complained about it yet | |
| 09:49 | El_Che | szabgab is dead |
| 09:49 | Hyppolit | svn: r7511 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7511 |
| 09:49 | Cleaned up the requires. | |
| 09:49 | ||
| 09:49 | Added in version level for SVN::Class to 0.15 the patched version that allows for multiple line commits, like this one! | |
| 09:49 | branches/Padre-Plugin-SVN-waxhead/ | |
| 09:49 | El_Che | at least the site |
| 09:49 | pece | redirects to www. then closes connection |
| 09:50 | Alias | It needs to be two settings |
| 09:51 | szabgab | Alias, yes I agree |
| 09:52 | pece, how did you see that ? | |
| 09:52 | pece | szabgab: FF changed address to www |
| 09:53 | szabgab | it is very strange as I have a redirect from www to http://szabgab.com/ |
| 09:53 | pece | apache looped? |
| 09:55 | szabgab | I have not touched it and the log indicates some people do get through |
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| 09:55 | szabgab | can you try http://perl.org.il/ ? |
| 09:55 | El_Che | same |
| 09:56 | waxhead | szabgab: hey Gabor... the SVN plugin.... I'm getting close to merging it back into trunk.... |
| 09:56 | szabgab | waxhead, good to hear |
| 09:57 | waxhead | szabgab: what's needed it to get it as a release on cpan? |
| 09:57 | szabgab | I can give you the co-mainatainership |
| 09:57 | and then you can do it | |
| 09:57 | El_Che | szabgab: perl.org.il is coming though |
| 09:57 | got the title, no page yet | |
| 09:57 | waxhead | szabgab: I'm also going to remove the project support - for this release... I like the file integration for now... |
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| 09:57 | szabgab | oh now my site is back again I think |
| 09:58 | waxhead | szabgab: I don't have an account on cpan... |
| 09:58 | El_Che | loaded |
| 09:58 | szabgab | waxhead, then you need to create one :-) |
| 09:58 | waxhead | was just happy to get the coding done and make it useful... I hope.. :) |
| 09:58 | szabgab | go ahead and then ping Alias, I think he can create it for you |
| 09:59 | waxhead | an account? |
| 09:59 | szabgab | waxhead, no, you won't get away with that :-) |
| 09:59 | waxhead | oh.. |
| 09:59 | szabgab | http://pause.perl.org/ |
| 09:59 | waxhead, sign up there | |
| 10:00 | waxhead | really?? |
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| 10:00 | waxhead | Oh.. I have a question to ask though... |
| 10:00 | szabgab | what do you mean by really? |
| 10:00 | waxhead | I added a method to Main.pm on the weekend to get my "diff to Padre" to work... |
| 10:00 | szabgab | to core Padre? |
| 10:00 | waxhead | really... as in really create an account??? |
| 10:01 | szabgab: yes... | |
| 10:01 | szabgab | yes, really ceate an account ;-) |
| 10:01 | waxhead | I wasn't really sure where to put it... |
| 10:01 | so now there's $main->new_document_from_string($string); | |
| 10:01 | szabgab | have you added it to Main already or are you monkey patching it ? |
| 10:01 | Alias | You'll need to sign up properly |
| 10:01 | Fill out the form on PAUSE | |
| 10:01 | waxhead | szabgab: yes.. already there... |
| 10:02 | Alias | I don't get the mailing list in realtime, but I can do it inside of 24 hours |
| 10:02 | So sign up a bit ahead of time | |
| 10:02 | waxhead | Alias: ok.. |
| 10:02 | szabgab | such as now would be a good time :-) |
| 10:02 | szbalint | it's handy to have someone from the future |
| 10:02 | ;) | |
| 10:02 | waxhead | I had to submit a patch to SVN::Class to get this all working... so it's been a busy weekend.. :) |
| 10:03 | so what's the right way to do things like adding in fucntionality like ->new_document_from_string() method? | |
| 10:05 | szabgab | waxhead, it might be good to discuss it here but if noone has an opinion then add it |
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| 10:05 | szabgab | with some explanation why do we need that |
| 10:05 | waxhead | szabgab: I did discuss it on the weekend.. Garu was here... |
| 10:06 | the reason we need it is simple.. when I have a string, regardless of where I got it from I want to put it into a new document in Padre... | |
| 10:08 | so the neat example is mine... I want to open a diff into a new document in Padre.... | |
| 10:08 | szabgab | what for? a document goes along with an editor object as well |
| 10:08 | so it will be a new editor with a new document in it containing the diff ? | |
| 10:08 | waxhead | well that's the thing.. I really couldn't work out what I needed to do to effect the final outcome of a new tab with the diff text in it... |
| 10:10 | shadowpaste | "waxhead" at 58.168.240.78 pasted "New methos in Main" (10 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/32907 |
| 10:11 | waxhead | sigh.. method even... :-/ |
| 10:11 | szabgab: ^^^^^^ | |
| 10:11 | szabgab | there is method called on_new_from_template |
| 10:11 | yeah I am looking at the code now | |
| 10:11 | * teejay | has heard zilch comment on his moving snippets into a new insert submenu, and a new insert dialogue for inserting dates and stuff |
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| 10:12 | waxhead | szabgab: should I use that instead? |
| 10:12 | * Alias | will bitch when he notices :) |
| 10:12 | szabgab | waxhead, no, just look at it |
| 10:12 | waxhead | Alias: sees what? |
| 10:12 | szabgab | waxhead, so you already create the doc |
| 10:12 | teejay | waxhead, me committing stuff :) |
| 10:13 | szabgab | you need to create an editor as well |
| 10:13 | sorr no | |
| 10:13 | on_new creates the new editor | |
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| 10:13 | szabgab | then better use the current method to get this editor |
| 10:14 | and not the array of editors | |
| 10:14 | Hyppolit | svn: r7512 | hashbangperl++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7512 |
| 10:14 | added | |
| 10:14 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ | |
| 10:14 | teejay | :) |
| 10:14 | waxhead | szabgab: my reading of the docs didn't indicate an issue with the array... |
| 10:15 | szabgab: happy to change the code though... | |
| 10:15 | szabgab: but it's been commited already... | |
| 10:15 | szabgab | better abstraction |
| 10:15 | waxhead | is it? |
| 10:15 | szabgab | I know , I have it on my computer :-) |
| 10:15 | waxhead | ok... happy to comply... |
| 10:16 | mind you want it needs is a mime type to pass in too so you can set it... | |
| 10:16 | szabgab | one daye someone change the array to hash or I don't know what |
| 10:16 | Alias | waxhead: teejay's changes |
| 10:16 | waxhead | so ->current will work... |
| 10:16 | szabgab | waxhead, until Alias breaks it :-) |
| 10:19 | and waxhead it would be nice if you also added yourself to http://padre.perlide.org/developers.html | |
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| 10:27 | Hyppolit | svn: r7513 | hashbangperl++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7513 |
| 10:27 | added insert submenu, moved snippets into it | |
| 10:27 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ | |
| 10:28 | teejay | test pass, and it seems to work |
| 10:28 | I await constructive feedback ;) | |
| 10:29 | shadowpaste | "waxhead" at 58.168.240.78 pasted "Method changed..." (23 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/32908 |
| 10:29 | waxhead | szabgab: just changed the code... tested it and it works ok... |
| 10:30 | szabgab: just need to get an idea of what the mimetype should look like... | |
| 10:30 | let me know if it should be committed.... | |
| 10:32 | Alias: szabgab: account requested on pause... | |
| 10:33 | actually once that's done.. need to learn how to do up a module for cpan!!! | |
| 10:33 | szabgab | I guess there is a mime-type for diff |
| 10:33 | waxhead | man.. it's been learning overload weekend... |
| 10:33 | szabgab | see Padre::MimeTypes |
| 10:36 | daxim | text/x-diff |
| 10:36 | waxhead | should I pass in 'text/x-diff' or just 'diff' ? |
| 10:37 | szabgab: is the method name suitable? or should it be named on_new_document_from_string() ? | |
| 10:38 | szabgab | method name is ok I think |
| 10:38 | the full name of the mime-type | |
| 10:43 | waxhead | ok.. looks good now.. diff syntax works fine.. |
| 10:43 | I'll commit it back... | |
| 10:43 | with the SVN Plugin that supports multi-line commit messages.. :0 | |
| 10:44 | szabgab | and I have to relocate myself as the library is closing |
| 10:44 | cu later | |
| 10:47 | Hyppolit | svn: r7514 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7514 |
| 10:47 | changed new_document_from_string method to more correctly create new editor and document. | |
| 10:47 | ||
| 10:47 | It now also allows passing in of the Mime Type for the string being passed in. | |
| 10:47 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ | |
| 10:56 | rindolf | http://use.perl.org/~scrottie/journal/39426 |
| 10:59 | Hyppolit | svn: r7515 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7515 |
| 10:59 | Reordered the menu. | |
| 10:59 | branches/Padre-Plugin-SVN-waxhead/lib/Padre/Plugin/ | |
| 11:02 | svn: r7516 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7516 | |
| 11:02 | Removed the print statements. | |
| 11:02 | branches/Padre-Plugin-SVN-waxhead/lib/Padre/Plugin/SVN/Wx/ | |
| 11:09 | svn: r7517 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7517 | |
| 11:09 | [SDL] add script to handle several images in layers | |
| 11:09 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-SDL/share/examples/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-SDL/share/examples/img/ | |
| 11:09 | svn: r7518 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7518 | |
| 11:09 | Set title in dialog, removed commented out code from commit method. | |
| 11:09 | branches/Padre-Plugin-SVN-waxhead/lib/Padre/Plugin/ | |
| 11:20 | svn: r7519 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7519 | |
| 11:20 | [SDL] file rename | |
| 11:20 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-SDL/share/examples/ | |
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| 11:43 | szabgab | I still have trouble with my server. It seems to answer the requests via http to some of the users but not to others, including I tried wget from the same machine and it did not work |
| 11:49 | waxhead | port being blocked somewhere upstream? |
| 11:49 | where''s the developers file to add? | |
| 11:50 | oh.. in data... | |
| 11:55 | right.. tired. been a long day... | |
| 11:55 | night | |
| 11:58 | szabgab | hmm, little more investigation reveals that the 20 child processes of Apache could not handle the numer of requests |
| 11:59 | that's because my recent blog entry got upvoted on reddit I think | |
| 12:00 | now I increased the upper limit to 50 and as I can see apache quickly forked that many children | |
| 12:06 | teejay | szabgab, you don't have perlbal in front of apache ? |
| 12:06 | szabgab | nope |
| 12:06 | teejay | even on a small site it's almost a no-brainer |
| 12:06 | esp apache 1.x on *nix | |
| 12:07 | szabgab | how would that help if I get too many requests to handle ? |
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| 12:09 | szabgab | anyway the situation seems to be much better now after moving the number of children to 50 |
| 12:10 | I just need to restart it again | |
| 12:13 | teejay | szabgab, um.. it's a reverse proxy |
| 12:13 | dealing with too many requests is what it's kind of there for | |
| 12:13 | szabgab | oh I c |
| 12:13 | teejay | it load balances, queues, etc |
| 12:13 | szabgab | I'll look into that |
| 12:14 | teejay | only time it fails to deal with too many requests is when you hit kernel or h/w limits |
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| 13:06 | * teejay | notes alias hasn't noticed and moaned about the insert submenu yet ;) |
| 13:08 | szabgab | have you added it to Changes? |
| 13:08 | teejay | oh crap |
| 13:08 | no | |
| 13:08 | szabgab | it seems that now that I fixed the server many more people upvote the reddit entry |
| 13:08 | rindolf | szabgab: is there any progress with the padre.perlide.org stylesheet? |
| 13:09 | szabgab | rindolf, what progress are you expecting? |
| 13:09 | I enlarged the font | |
| 13:10 | rindolf | szabgab: ah. |
| 13:10 | szabgab: did you also get rid of the horiz scrollbar? | |
| 13:10 | szabgab | no, I was hoping that you talk to submersible about that |
| 13:10 | he knows a bit more about the site | |
| 13:11 | rindolf | submersible: ping. |
| 13:13 | * Alias | doesn't have his portable drive with Padre checkout on it at work today |
| 13:18 | rindolf | Alias: a pendrive/disk-on-key? |
| 13:18 | szabgab | has anyone seen Wx::Canvas? Is that implemented in wxPerl? |
| 13:21 | Alias | rindolf: Portable hard-drive, the flash is really too slow |
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| 13:22 | * Alias | reboots to pick up new Windows domain password, sugh |
| 13:23 | Hyppolit | svn: r7520 | hashbangperl++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7520 |
| 13:23 | added insert menu change | |
| 13:23 | trunk/Padre/ | |
| 13:34 | svn: r7521 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7521 | |
| 13:34 | [Padre] Added a use 5.008 to pass t/12.pragmas.t | |
| 13:34 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ | |
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| 13:38 | azawawi | submersible: what art thou? :) |
| 13:38 | submersible: s/what/where :) | |
| 13:38 | Alias | He is offline |
| 13:39 | Just moved into a new house last week and won't have the internet for another 1-2 weeks | |
| 13:39 | azawawi | i see |
| 13:40 | * azawawi | wishes for a newer strawberry :) |
| 13:42 | Alias | You can wait the requisite 3 month cycle like everyone else :) |
| 13:43 | Other than that, it cwill come | |
| 13:43 | Hyppolit | svn: r7522 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7522 |
| 13:43 | add drawing example from Wx::Demo | |
| 13:43 | trunk/Padre/share/examples/wx/ | |
| 13:50 | azawawi | oh well, if you say so :) |
| 13:53 | teejay | oh neat - I might be able use that in the autodia plugin |
| 13:57 | Hyppolit | svn: r7523 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7523 |
| 13:57 | [Padre] Added share/doc folder | |
| 13:57 | trunk/Padre/share/ | |
| 13:58 | svn: r7524 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7524 | |
| 13:58 | [Padre] Moved perlopref.pod (Perl Operator Reference) | |
| 13:58 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/ trunk/Padre/share/doc/ | |
| 14:01 | svn: r7525 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7525 | |
| 14:01 | [Padre] Fixed Padre::HelpProvider::Perl to use share/doc/perlopref.pod | |
| 14:01 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/ | |
| 14:04 | svn: r7526 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7526 | |
| 14:04 | [Padre] Perl tidy | |
| 14:04 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ | |
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| 14:06 | patrickas | Hello is there an easy way to set the white space and tabs to visible but in light gray while leaving the rest of the colors as they are (in V0.43) ? |
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| 14:07 | azawawi | patrickas: at the moment, i dont think so... |
| 14:08 | * azawawi | double checks |
| 14:09 | patrickas | ok thanks ... because that's how I have SciTe configured, so I thought i should be easy to do the ... but I could not ... |
| 14:09 | I suppose I'll change it when it becomes available or get used to it the way it is, whichever comes first :-) | |
| 14:10 | azawawi | I am also annoyed of it now so it is next on my todo list :) |
| 14:11 | patrickas | hehe thanks! |
| 14:13 | rindolf | <Alias> He is offline - I see. That means we are on our own. |
| 14:14 | Alias | hrm? |
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| 14:14 | Alias | ah |
| 14:14 | Not necesarily | |
| 14:14 | He'll be here between 10 and 6 Sydney time | |
| 14:14 | Ping me and I can punch him in the face if needed | |
| 14:15 | rindolf | Alias: OK. |
| 14:16 | width:60em; ==> I don't like that. | |
| 14:17 | Bleh! why doesn't firebug has search for CSS? | |
| 14:17 | How hard can it be? | |
| 14:19 | Change .center_column {text-align: left;margin: 0 5em; } and the horiz scrollbar problem will be over. | |
| 14:19 | Can I commit it? | |
| 14:20 | szabgab | rindolf, have you ran the script that generates the site and looked at the result? |
| 14:21 | rindolf | szabgab: no. |
| 14:21 | szabgab: I changed it using the web-developer toolbar. | |
| 14:21 | On my site. | |
| 14:21 | And it's only the CSS. | |
| 14:21 | szabgab | on your site? |
| 14:21 | rindolf | Sorry, in my browser. |
| 14:21 | It's a local change. | |
| 14:22 | szabgab | have you checked all the pages if they look good ? |
| 14:23 | azawawi | patrickas: ok i got it, change wxSTC_PL_DEFAULT to eeeeee in Padre/share/styles/default.yml |
| 14:24 | patrickas: or dddddd | |
| 14:24 | patrickas | I think I did something like this but it changed more than the white spaces .... |
| 14:25 | let me check my files | |
| 14:26 | szabgab | one daye someone will have to figure out the whole color mapping of STC so we can have what patrickas asked for |
| 14:26 | patrickas | wxSTC_PL_DEFAULT: foreground: cccccc |
| 14:26 | that' what I have changed | |
| 14:27 | but it changed too many things | |
| 14:27 | azawawi | szabgab: i actually figured it out but lazy is on by default :) |
| 14:27 | patrickas | most of the text is now grey |
| 14:27 | that's generally a good default :-) | |
| 14:28 | Hyppolit | svn: r7527 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7527 |
| 14:28 | some cleanup in the drawing example | |
| 14:28 | trunk/Padre/share/examples/wx/ | |
| 14:28 | patrickas | I aslo messed up with wxSCE_PL_FORMAT_IDENT thinking it could only change the color of indentation ... but it did not work |
| 14:29 | * azawawi | tries again |
| 14:32 | Sewi | Who is doing the quick fix functions atm? |
| 14:33 | azawawi | Sewi: me |
| 14:33 | rindolf | szabgab: I haven't. |
| 14:33 | szabgab: where are the site's sources? | |
| 14:33 | Sewi | azawawi: When using the quick fix menu once, the autocomplete menu gets broken. |
| 14:33 | azawawi | patrickas: wxSTC_PL_DEFAULT does the job you need |
| 14:33 | szabgab | rindolf trunk/template.... |
| 14:34 | azawawi | Sewi: ah ok ... fixing |
| 14:34 | Sewi | azawawi: Try this: Open a perl file, start typing something which has more than one possible result, press Ctrl-P. You'll get a list of items. |
| 14:35 | azawawi: Close this list and press Ctrl-2, it doesn't matter if there's anything found, when you repeat the first test, you get all results space-joined in one line. | |
| 14:35 | I'ld look for it myself, but currently too busy, sorry. :-( | |
| 14:35 | azawawi | Sewi: fixing... :) |
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| 14:35 | patrickas | ok let me try again ... |
| 14:39 | azawawi: wxSTC_PL_DEFAULT affects variables too | |
| 14:39 | my $foo = 'bar' | |
| 14:39 | $foo becomes light grey too | |
| 14:40 | azawawi | really? |
| 14:40 | patrickas | and the semicolon at the end of the line |
| 14:40 | rindolf | szabgab: thanks. |
| 14:40 | patrickas | yes :-( at least on my machine ! |
| 14:41 | azawawi | patrickas: litmus test change it to black 000000 and check again... |
| 14:41 | patrickas | i just changed it to bright red |
| 14:42 | to confirm | |
| 14:42 | that's how I noticed the semicolon | |
| 14:42 | azawawi | so it works or not? :) |
| 14:43 | patrickas | no ... changing one variable is affecting white space tabs $foo and the semicolon |
| 14:43 | I wanted it to only affect white space and tabs | |
| 14:43 | Hyppolit | svn: r7528 | shlomif++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7528 |
| 14:43 | Corrected some typos and mis-formattings in the template's README. | |
| 14:43 | trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/ | |
| 14:43 | azawawi | patrickas: scintilla highlighter is active... look at the bottom status bar near Perl 5 |
| 14:44 | patrickas | no ... |
| 14:44 | I have PPI Experimental ! :-( | |
| 14:44 | azawawi | patrickas: let me check the code then :) |
| 14:44 | patrickas: we're getting somewhere now | |
| 14:44 | patrickas | let me change that |
| 14:45 | yes with scintilla it works | |
| 14:46 | actually I rmemeber when messing with the options I saw the comment "PPI Experimental ," "we have full control so bugs can be fixed" so I decided to use that :-) | |
| 14:46 | azawawi | :) |
| 14:47 | patrickas | Ok then, I suppose I should file a bug, revert back to Scintilla highlighter and wait for 0.45 :-) |
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| 14:48 | szabgab | patrickas, if you like to file a bug you will have to first register on out trac |
| 14:48 | Hyppolit | svn: r7529 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7529 |
| 14:48 | [Padre] Autocomplete is now compatible with the Quick Fix thingie :) Sewi++ | |
| 14:48 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ | |
| 14:49 | szabgab | but it does not accept registrations due to excessive spam, so I am opening it now if you'd like to register |
| 14:49 | Sewi | azawawi++; # Thanks! |
| 14:49 | azawawi | np |
| 14:49 | patrickas | szabgab: no biggy .. I just thought I'd do my part |
| 14:49 | szabgab | sure I'd like that |
| 14:50 | * rindolf | is installing the build/all.pl deps. |
| 14:51 | patrickas | ok i see the link but I am getting : No handler matched request to /register |
| 14:51 | szabgab | patrickas, go ahead register |
| 14:51 | try now | |
| 14:53 | patrickas | ok thanks I am logged in now |
| 14:53 | szabgab | ok, registration window closed :-) |
| 14:54 | Hyppolit | svn: r7530 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7530 |
| 14:54 | [Padre] Part 1 of moving OpenResource/SearchTask.pm to its rightful Padre place | |
| 14:54 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ | |
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| 14:55 | szabgab | relocating again & |
| 14:56 | Hyppolit | svn: r7531 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7531 |
| 14:56 | [Padre] Part 2 of moving OpenResource/SearchTask.pm to its rightful Padre place | |
| 14:56 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/OpenResource/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ | |
| 14:57 | rindolf | Alias: http://paste.debian.net/44908/ |
| 14:59 | Hyppolit | svn: r7532 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7532 |
| 14:59 | [Padre] Finished moving OpenResource/SearchTask.pm to its rightful Padre place | |
| 14:59 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ | |
| 14:59 | patrickas | Done , ticket number 498, thanks for your time szabgab and azawawi |
| 15:00 | azawawi | patrickas: no problem... keep them coming :) |
| 15:01 | rindolf | I've checked all the pages with this patch and it seems fine. |
| 15:01 | azawawi: may I commit it? | |
| 15:01 | azawawi: http://paste.debian.net/44908/ | |
| 15:02 | azawawi | rindolf: why not? :) |
| 15:02 | rindolf | azawawi: don't know. |
| 15:03 | azawawi | go ahead if it works on firefox |
| 15:04 | rindolf | azawawi: OK. |
| 15:05 | Hyppolit | svn: r7533 | shlomif++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7533 |
| 15:05 | Fixed the CSS to avoid the horizontal scrollbar. | |
| 15:05 | ||
| 15:05 | Removed width: 60 em; which set an explicit (and beyond the viewport) width | |
| 15:05 | and set the left and right margin to 50pt. A 5em; margin was rejected because | |
| 15:05 | it grew along with font-resizing. | |
| 15:05 | trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/documentroot/static/ | |
| 15:06 | rindolf | karma shlomif |
| 15:06 | Hyppolit | Karma of shlomif is 8 |
| 15:12 | svn: r7534 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7534 | |
| 15:12 | [Padre] Fixed wrong class PPI::Statement::Compond -> PPI::Statement::Compound | |
| 15:12 | [Padre] in PPI Experimental. This means control/flow keywords are now highlighted correctly again. | |
| 15:12 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ | |
| 15:14 | svn: r7535 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7535 | |
| 15:14 | [Padre] fixed control/flow keywords highlighting for PPI standard... copy & paste error most probably. | |
| 15:14 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ | |
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| 15:51 | Hyppolit | svn: r7536 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7536 |
| 15:51 | [Perl 6] Bumped version to 0.57 to be ready for Padre 0.44 | |
| 15:51 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Padre/Plugin/Perl6/ | |
| 15:59 | svn: r7537 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7537 | |
| 15:59 | [Perl 6] Updated changes for 0.58 | |
| 15:59 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/ | |
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| 16:03 | Hyppolit | svn: r7538 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7538 |
| 16:03 | [Perl 6] Fixed copyright | |
| 16:03 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Padre/Plugin/Perl6/ | |
| 16:04 | svn: r7539 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7539 | |
| 16:04 | [Perl 6] Perl tidy | |
| 16:04 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Padre/Plugin/Perl6/ | |
| 16:07 | azawawi | pip http://feather.perl6.nl/~azawa[…]Perl6-0.58.tar.gz |
| 16:09 | rindolf | azawawi: is the new stylesheet live yet? |
| 16:10 | Or must it be explicitly built? | |
| 16:10 | Hyppolit | svn: r7540 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7540 |
| 16:10 | [Ecliptic] Bumped version to 0.18 for Padre 0.44 | |
| 16:10 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/lib/Padre/Plugin/Ecliptic/ | |
| 16:13 | svn: r7541 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7541 | |
| 16:13 | [Ecliptic] Updated Changes for 0.18 | |
| 16:13 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/ | |
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| 16:13 | azawawi | rindolf: no idea there |
| 16:14 | rindolf | azawawi: OK. |
| 16:14 | azawawi | & |
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| 16:18 | takadonet | hey everyone |
| 16:22 | rindolf | Hi takadonet |
| 16:23 | takadonet | Question: Does anyone know how to add modules to the path so STD.pm in padre can find them ? |
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| 16:28 | rindolf | takadonet: using PERL5LIB? |
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| 16:28 | takadonet | rindolf: This will be for Perl6 not perl 5 |
| 16:28 | rindolf | takadonet: ah. |
| 16:28 | Then PERL6LIB | |
| 16:29 | Or PERLLIB | |
| 16:29 | takadonet | i have PERL6LIB set already... I will try PERLLIB |
| 16:30 | rindolf | takadonet: is this rakudo? |
| 16:30 | takadonet | yes |
| 16:31 | rindolf | takadonet: on #perl6 , I was told that PERL6LIB is supported. |
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| 17:30 | azawawi | hi |
| 17:31 | takadonet: hi.. let me check it for you | |
| 17:31 | takadonet | azawawi: thanks |
| 17:35 | azawawi | takadonet: on win32? |
| 17:35 | takadonet | azawawi: No ubuntu x86_64 |
| 17:36 | azawawi | i see |
| 17:36 | * azawawi | tries something with PERL6LIB |
| 17:39 | azawawi | takadonet: after looking at the code in Cursor.pmc i do not think it is possible |
| 17:40 | takadonet: since you need 'std' | |
| 17:40 | takadonet: from pugs/src/perl6 to recompile Foo.pm | |
| 17:40 | * azawawi | hits his head |
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| 17:41 | azawawi | takadonet: try putting Foo.pm in your home directory |
| 17:41 | takadonet: that should silence the warning | |
| 17:43 | takadonet | which home directory? ubuntu's or Padre? |
| 17:43 | azawawi | your home directory |
| 17:43 | takadonet | ok |
| 17:43 | thanks azawawi | |
| 17:43 | azawawi | did it work? |
| 17:44 | on win32, i put it in my documents and it worked... but it still tries to execute ./std and does not find it. | |
| 17:44 | nice catch | |
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| 17:44 | azawawi | takadonet++ |
| 17:48 | pip http://feather.perl6.nl/~azawa[…]iptic-0.18.tar.gz | |
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| 17:54 | jd | Salve! Quid agis hodie? |
| 17:55 | azawawi | jd: fine :) |
| 17:56 | daxim | audeamus igitur, iuvenes dum sumus etc. etc. |
| 17:57 | jd | Has anyone ran into this before on windows? http://pastebin.ca/1541792 |
| 17:57 | Trying to upgrade the thing | |
| 17:58 | azawawi | let me see |
| 17:58 | jd | I saw your name on a post posted to reddit :p |
| 17:58 | azawawi | jd: :) |
| 17:59 | jd: winxp? | |
| 17:59 | jd | C:\strawberry\cpan\build\tmp-2544\Padre-0.43\t <-- this exists |
| 17:59 | daxim | exit cpan shell, remove C:\strawberry\cpan\build and start over |
| 17:59 | jd | No win7 |
| 18:00 | azawawi | ah i didnt try it there |
| 18:00 | i tried it on vista and xp | |
| 18:01 | jd: you're on an admin account right? | |
| 18:01 | jd | I ran it as an admin yes |
| 18:02 | azawawi | jd: how about removing c:\strawberry\cpan\build folder and trying again? maybe you have a corrupted cpan build directory. |
| 18:05 | im trying it again using cpan and then cpan> upgrade /^Padre/ | |
| 18:07 | jd | ok, I shall try that |
| 18:07 | azawawi | thank you |
| 18:08 | jd | A cpan that would open in the powershell would be nice :p |
| 18:08 | azawawi | is it so powerful this powershell thing? |
| 18:09 | jd | resizable window |
| 18:09 | Compare cmd.exe window to powershell, it is really powerful. | |
| 18:09 | pece | window title? |
| 18:09 | azawawi | i see |
| 18:10 | jd | Compare it to an unix terminal, probably falls down :p |
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| 18:10 | * azawawi | puts it on his to-learn list |
| 18:10 | jd | Well it hasn't crashed yet, so it might be fine |
| 18:10 | I only use it for running avrdude and git | |
| 18:13 | Microsoft needs to learn how to resize a partition in place including the system partition. It does it for everything but the system partition. Apple needs to learn how to have a real powerful diskutil. | |
| 18:13 | azawawi | :) |
| 18:13 | pece | zfs is nice file system |
| 18:14 | jd | hfs+ and ntfs work for me |
| 18:14 | zfs is too new | |
| 18:14 | I would like a proper versioning file system like they had inthe 70s | |
| 18:23 | It is suppose to start building padre now | |
| 18:24 | azawawi | CSJewell: I moved my dev environment to use "Almost Six" as a base instead of vanilla strawberry. Nice job :) |
| 18:24 | jd: i see snow leopard is shipping | |
| 18:24 | 28th aug | |
| 18:26 | not bad $29 for upgrading | |
| 18:26 | jd | yeah snow leopard is good |
| 18:27 | Although most won't notice much difference | |
| 18:27 | azawawi | yeah the casual user wont notice it |
| 18:27 | & | |
| 18:27 | jd | Although some things have crashed, but then it goes away after a restart |
| 18:27 | rindolf | azawawi: seems like my stylesheet got applied - http://padre.perlide.org/code_of_conduct.html |
| 18:34 | jd | azawawi: It is still going, but I saw this error: http://pastebin.ca/1541836 |
| 18:47 | azawawi | jd: normal |
| 18:48 | hmmm if you bought a mac after june 6th, that's $9.99 | |
| 18:51 | rindolf | OK, read it now - http://padre.perlide.org/code_of_conduct.html |
| 18:52 | "You may wear a baby sling, hijab, a kippah" - this sentence seems out-of-place. | |
| 19:13 | And very silly. | |
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| 20:00 | doubi | Hello. I wonder might you be prepared to advise me on a Windows Wx install issue? It's not directly related to Padre but I've not had luck getting help anywhere else: I was trying to install the Wx module on Windows and getting weird errors from Strawberry's libmsvcrt.a during the linking phase, like "local symbol `?' has no section" (where ? is a unicode smiley that won't render in my chat client). The odd thing is I was trying to update to Wx 0.92 - when I go |
| 20:04 | azawawi | hmmm, any pastebin? |
| 20:05 | doubi | http://pastebin.com/d9dec761 |
| 20:06 | azawawi | doubi: sorry but could you use gist.github.com. my stupid ISP blocks pastebin for a while... |
| 20:06 | doubi | np |
| 20:07 | azawawi | ty |
| 20:08 | doubi | http://gist.github.com/174138 It's decided not to encode the unicode characters too, which is nice |
| 20:08 | * azawawi | reads it |
| 20:09 | azawawi | dmake realclean |
| 20:10 | and try again please | |
| 20:10 | doubi | Will do and repost the output. Have tried it several times though. |
| 20:11 | Will retry with 0.92, seeing as the error's the same. | |
| 20:11 | azawawi | hmmm, sometimes it helps to delete cpan\build and start all over |
| 20:12 | doubi | Intense! That one I haven't tried; if this fails again I'll try that |
| 20:12 | azawawi | also check your path |
| 20:13 | doubi | I checked it, confirmed that Strawberry is before MinGW. Anything else I should be looking out for path-wise? |
| 20:14 | azawawi | aha you have mingw installed? |
| 20:14 | CSJewell | azawawi: Thanks! (just stopped in - I had left my laptop on at Grandma's. Will only be here for 5 mins.) |
| 20:14 | doubi | Yes... and come to think of it, that was probably since installing Wx-0.91 |
| 20:15 | azawawi | doubi: maybe you can try Padre 0.41. it already has Wx prebuilt... |
| 20:17 | doubi | What do you mean by prebuilt? I let Alien::wxWidgets configure and build the binaries... |
| 20:18 | And it was working before. I suppose I could rip out all of Strawberry Perl and use the Padre installer that includes it but... I kinda wanna know what's wrong! | |
| 20:19 | pece | try chkdsk |
| 20:19 | azawawi | i see |
| 20:21 | doubi: perl Makefile.PL --help or something like that | |
| 20:21 | doubi: make you could build it without unicode to see if it builds | |
| 20:21 | or maybe im sleepy :) | |
| 20:23 | pece | doubi: you can try to rename libmsvcrtd.a to libmsvcrt.a |
| 20:23 | I mean rename libmsvcrt.a to _libmsvcrt.a and then copy libmsvcrtd.a to libmsvcrt.a | |
| 20:23 | doubi | azawawi: thanks, will try that after the chkdsk completes. |
| 20:24 | azawawi | doubi: have fun :) |
| 20:24 | doubi | pece: I see, thanks. What's the relationship between those msvc libraries with the different letters on the ends? I've seen other similar ones |
| 20:24 | pece | sizes dont differ practically so not much debug info in it? |
| 20:24 | 'd' is like debug build | |
| 20:25 | doubi | Ah right... of course :p |
| 20:25 | pece | just for check if your libmsvcrt.a is (not) ok |
| 20:26 | it is in C:\strawberry\c\lib | |
| 20:26 | doubi | hmm, chkdsk was pretty busy, and "can't continue in read-only mode" |
| 20:26 | Maybe I'd better restart in safe-mode and try it again | |
| 20:27 | I'll try moving those libs first... | |
| 20:27 | pece | chkdsk /f c: |
| 20:28 | doubi | Cannot lock current drive ... scheduled chkdsk for restart |
| 20:28 | pece | yes, this is expected |
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| 20:32 | doubi | aha... pece, changing the lib names seems to be working! |
| 20:32 | pece | bad file? interesting |
| 20:33 | doubi | Yeah. I tried running the Strawberry .msi earlier thinking it would reinstall things for me, but it must've just seen there was an existing install and quit. |
| 20:33 | pece: Many thanks for your help :-) | |
| 20:34 | pece | pleasure ;) |
| 20:34 | azawawi | nice |
| 20:38 | CSJewell_gone | doubi: Before I run - if it's a bad file, you can just pull the affected file(s) out of the .zip. |
| 20:38 | doubi | CSJewell_gone: thanks, should've tried that when the .msi didn't help. Cheers :) |
| 20:56 | wolverian | hi. the Perl 6 module looks for templates in the wrong dir. known bug? ah, fixed in the latest release of the plugin, today. nevermind... |
| 21:00 | azawawi | :) |
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| 23:51 | submersible | what is this horiz. scrollbar issue?? |
| 23:54 | rindolf | submersible: hi. |
| 23:54 | submersible | hi rindolf |
| 23:54 | rindolf | submersible: with width: 60em; when the font was enlarged, a horizontal scrollbar was caused. |
| 23:54 | submersible | I'm in completely offset time these days .. no net @home |
| 23:54 | rindolf | submersible: because the width got fit to the text width. |
| 23:54 | submersible: this made it hard to read. | |
| 23:55 | submersible | hang on |
| 23:55 | u wanted larger type | |
| 23:55 | and so changed....? | |
| 23:55 | rindolf | <Hyppolit> svn: r7533 | shlomif++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7533 |
| 23:55 | <Hyppolit> Fixed the CSS to avoid the horizontal scrollbar. | |
| 23:55 | <Hyppolit> | |
| 23:55 | I pressed Ctrl++ | |
| 23:56 | submersible | and the scrollbar is on the browser frame... not interior to the site? |
| 23:57 | aha - there u go - elastic problem.. | |
| 23:57 | ++shlomif | |
| 23:58 | rindolf | submersible: :-) |
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