Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2009-08-26

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00:15 garu hi kthakore !
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00:30 kthakore garu
00:30 kthakore hi
00:30 kthakore building padre now
00:30 garu cool
00:30 kthakore garu, what do you think of the post ? of SDL::Game
00:30 kthakore http://yapgh.blogspot.com/2009/08/my-mi​lestones-itches-for-gaming-in-perl.html
00:34 garu so you did post it before I gave you a heads up on the helper api... I'll take a look :)
00:35 kthakore garu, no I posted my goals
00:36 garu ah, cool
01:02 submersible I recall a presentation about py-game-ing at osdc sydney last year. ..
01:02 submersible and I felt _REALLY_ jealous
01:03 kthakore submersible, we will get them
01:03 kthakore submersible, join me against the fight on #SDl
01:03 kthakore #sdl
01:03 submersible stdby
01:07 Alias submersible: Indeed
01:08 kthakore Alias, join us #SDL
01:08 Alias I'm not a game writer
01:08 Alias Just a game consumer :)
01:08 Alias And a packager
01:08 kthakore I need more eyes
01:08 kthakore and to be able to drop your name
01:08 kthakore ... likes it hot
01:08 Alias I'm more interested in the PR implications of putting a game on every Perl install :)
01:09 kthakore indeed
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02:52 azawawi hi
02:52 garu hi azawawi
02:53 azawawi hey
02:53 Hyppolit svn: r7571 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7571
02:53 Hyppolit [Perl 6] print -> Padre::Util::debug
02:53 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Padre/Plugin/Perl6/
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03:12 Hyppolit svn: r7572 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7572
03:12 Hyppolit [Padre] Used PPI::Statement::Include->pragma for the "use strict; use warnings;" quick fix
03:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/
03:13 submersible interesting troll hugging post audreyt
03:15 azawawi submersible: long time no see :)
03:15 submersible azawawi: moved house and dropped of the face of the planet
03:16 submersible still no networking @ home
03:16 submersible I see my DocBrowser pain is now being shared by others.
03:16 Ryan52 garu: hm...ok, so teach me the ways of the release monkey please. :)
03:16 azawawi I hate... i hate... it :)
03:16 submersible how did you go adding a new provider?
03:17 submersible the only saving grace is .... still improvement on Pod::Frame :)
03:17 Ryan52 garu: anything in particular I will need to know or am I supposed to just wing it?
03:17 Hyppolit svn: r7573 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7573
03:17 Hyppolit [Padre] A sub package for Perl 5 quick fixes... hmmm
03:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/
03:20 garu Ryan52, the way of the release monkey is a lifelong path... I can only show you the door, it is up to you to bang your head on it insistently :)
03:21 submersible eventually - it will be a door w/ a head shaped void
03:21 submersible and enlightenment follows. (apparently)
03:21 garu yes.
03:22 Ryan52 okie dokie.
03:22 audreyt submersible: thank-you :) *hug*
03:22 garu Ryan52, seriously though, there's nothing in particular, I guess... it's all pretty well documented, and you already know svn, so you'll be ok :)
03:23 Ryan52 heh, okay, just making sure.
03:23 * submersible checks to see if any academics are writing theses on Internet Troll Management
03:23 garu Ryan52, when it's your turn, if I scream in panic throughout the channel, it's just my way of saying "keep up the good work" :P
03:24 garu but you really can't be worse than I was
03:24 garu I actually forgot to put a release date on Padre 0.41
03:24 Ryan52 submersible, audreyt: now I'm curious, what are you talking about? :P
03:25 garu so it's a quantum package... released and "to be released" at the same time
03:25 Ryan52 garu: pfft, you did fine. those are just minor details that don't really matter. :)
03:26 garu it's just that, when you're the release monkey, you get a really big DFIU feeling
03:26 garu I was devastated when I found out I did that
03:26 garu "what should we do now?!", I asked
03:27 garu "have a beer?", szabgab++ replied :)
03:27 Ryan52 hah
03:27 submersible Ryan52: see the padre.perlide.org/about.html
03:32 submersible http://pugs.blogs.com/audrey/200​9/08/my-hobby-troll-hugging.html
03:37 * Ryan52 is reading...slowly :P
03:40 Ryan52 wow troll hugging sounds fun :)
03:44 Hyppolit svn: r7574 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7574
03:44 Hyppolit [Padre] Finally refactored Perl 5's quick fixes
03:44 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/Perl/
03:44 Ryan52 is there a hiding RSS feed on http://padre.perlide.org/about.html or should I add one?
03:48 Hyppolit svn: r7575 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7575
03:48 Hyppolit [Padre] Added Padre::QuickFixProvider::Perl::IncludeModule
03:48 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/Perl/
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04:21 Hyppolit svn: r7576 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7576
04:21 Hyppolit [Padre] Install Module Foo and Added requires to Makefile.PL or Build.PL quick fix.. Not 100% done yet.
04:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/Perl/
04:24 Hyppolit svn: r7577 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7577
04:24 Hyppolit [Padre] Perl tidy...
04:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/QuickFixProvider/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
04:41 Ryan52 szabgab: would you mind installing XML::API and DateTime::Format::Strptime on the machine that runs all.pl for the website and then updating all.pl?
04:41 Hyppolit svn: r7578 | ryan52++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7578
04:41 Hyppolit generate an about.rss
04:41 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/build/
04:41 * Ryan52 needs to figure out how to link to it, but isn't good at the webby stuff..
04:43 Ryan52 it's not the greatest, but it works and I can stick it in my feed reader. :P
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05:28 garu Sewi, http://search.cpan.org/~da​pm/perl-5.10.1/README.dos
05:28 garu :)
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05:33 Sewi hi garu
05:34 Sewi Why doesn't Perl support fork() under DOS :-))
05:36 garu Sewi, our dream is gone :)
05:36 Alias We really need to fix registration
05:36 Sewi Why? Noone said that threads won't work :-)
05:36 Alias Can we somehow make it so that people we trust can create accounts on behalf of other people?
05:36 Alias http://flowingdata.com/2009/06/​04/rise-of-the-data-scientist/
05:36 Alias Note Image
05:38 garu Alias, currently only szabgab has admin privileges over it, but either way, it's suboptimal... I'm pro opening it and dealing with spammers manually (but then again, I'm not actively monitoring and relying on Padre trac)
05:39 Ryan52 or only allow certain users to edit the wiki.
05:40 * Ryan52 is assuming that wiki spam was the problem...
05:40 garu Ryan52, do you know how to do it on trac?
05:40 Ryan52 nope.
05:40 Alias Ryan52: Link spammers often go for bug databases too
05:41 Ryan52 tho it's gotta be possible (even if we'd have to program it ourselves).
05:41 * Alias would be kinda happy to just abandon trace
05:41 garu maybe with this way ticket #500 will be "Padre needs to buy some viagra"
05:41 Alias trac
05:41 garu Alias, bugz++
05:41 Alias Or whatever
05:41 garu or rt
05:41 garu yeah
05:41 Alias Even rt would be fine
05:42 Alias And the svn.ali.as repository manager for the svn stuff
05:42 Ryan52 what about wiki?
05:42 garu I've been dying to get my hands on the new bugzilla
05:42 Ryan52 we don't have much, but still.
05:42 Alias MediaWiki one-click installer?
05:42 Alias On shared hosting somewhere..
05:42 Alias Like win32.perl.org does
05:42 Alias Although we've had some spam issues there too
05:42 Ryan52 well I'm sure we could use somebodies VPS. but okay.
05:43 garu porting the tickets would be a bitch... though there are probably tools for that
05:43 * Alias 7 # work
05:43 * Alias & # work
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05:43 garu though, there are probably tools to fix the spammers x registration problem in the first place
05:45 Ryan52 http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SpamFilter/Captcha
05:48 Sewi Quick (and dirty) solution: Build a page with a "open registration" button which is accessable by registered users (maybe only those with some kind of admin or commit bit). It could open the registration (.htaccess?) and close it automatically after 15 minutes.
05:51 garu we should talk to szabgab when he wakes up
05:51 garu and, by "we", I mean you guys
05:52 garu I'm going to bed!
05:52 garu 'night  &
05:52 Sewi sleep well :-)
05:57 Alias oh wow
05:57 Alias http://infosthetics.com/
05:57 Alias There's not really any reason people have to register themselves
05:57 Alias Admin adds email address for new account
05:58 Alias Account manager code generates and sends complex random password
05:58 Alias User goes to login page and changes it to permanent password
05:58 Alias There's pretty much always people here
05:58 Sewi Sounds really good.
05:59 Alias My thingy only manages a htaccess file though
05:59 Alias It's not really a complete management system
06:00 Sewi The registration could say something like: "Go to livesupport/IRC/this link, report your problem and you'll get registered if noone could help you."
06:02 Sewi We also advoid non-bug-spamming this way, e.g. people reporting known issues or things which are no bugs.
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06:04 Alias Indeed
06:04 Alias And channel people to the channel
06:06 Sewi Another question... Do you know if Perl on a 64-Bit-Win will report MSWin64 for $^O?
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06:20 szabgab gm
06:20 Sewi hi szabgab
06:21 szabgab finally I managed to setup http://www.quakelive.com/ for my son
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06:34 szabgab El_Che, congratulations!
06:36 szabgab Alias, garu I can add you as admins to the trac so you can open/close it or try to sign up new people by filling their username and e-mail, I have not tried that tyet though
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06:37 szabgab I can try the captcha thing now
06:39 Hyppolit svn: r7579 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7579
06:39 Hyppolit [Perl-Dist-Padre] Added a note on how to get required utilities (e.g. wget, tar..)
06:39 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
06:40 szabgab Ryan52, reg build/all.pl  can you please use 3 param open() and scalars for file handles?
06:41 szabgab and just to make sure you know that list of posts is kept up to date manually, right?
06:41 Ryan52 yes, I know.
06:43 Ryan52 what do you mean by 3 param open?
06:45 CSJewell 3 param open = open $filehandle, $mode, $file.
06:45 Ryan52 open (my $OUT, ">", $output);
06:45 * Ryan52 scratches head..
06:45 CSJewell 2 param open = open $filehandle, "$mode$file"
06:45 CSJewell Yes. Like that.
06:45 Ryan52 CSJewell: that's what I expected szabgab meant, but that's what I was already doing, so I got confused.
06:45 Hyppolit svn: r7580 | ryan52++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7580
06:45 Hyppolit use scalars
06:45 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/build/
06:46 Ryan52 so I guess it's all good now.
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06:47 szabgab Ryan52, oh, yes, sorry, the noises of quake make me a bit dizzy
06:47 szabgab need to relocate some other place &
06:48 azawawi CSJewell: ping
06:48 CSJewell Yes?
06:48 azawawi CSJewell: wget http://csjewell.comyr.com/​perl/version-rc.patch.txt is not valid in BUILDING.txt
06:48 CSJewell I'll check that out.
06:48 Ryan52 why does szabgab always make me use scalar file handles? what difference does it make?
06:49 Hyppolit svn: r7581 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7581
06:49 Hyppolit [Perl-Dist-Padre] Added a set CPAN=[sample working CPAN mirror]
06:49 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
06:50 * Ryan52 doesn't have a very good perl edumacation
06:50 Alias szabgab: More admins would be a good idea too, spread them over the time zones
06:50 Ryan52 Alias: szabgab left.
06:50 Alias oh, darn
06:51 CSJewell azawawi: I really need to make a par file for Perl-Dist-Padre use. Just a second and I'll see if my other computer can do it.
06:51 Alias Sewi: "MSWin32" is the API, not the bit depth
06:52 Alias So "Win32" is a set of classes/methods/functions, not necesarily "Windows at 32-bit depth"
06:53 Alias I'm not sure what happens with 64 bit
06:53 Alias As jdb in #win32 what he does for ActivePerl
06:54 azawawi CSJewell: I am trying to follow the stuff in Perl::Dist::Padre. now creating the PAR file (without the patch)
06:55 CSJewell azawawi: The patch is required because otherwise, you get errors at the end.
06:55 azawawi nice to know :)
06:56 azawawi for PAR generation?
06:56 Sewi Alias: thanks
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06:59 Hyppolit svn: r7582 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7582
06:59 Hyppolit [Perl-Dist-Padre] Added a note about the patch (CSJewell++)
06:59 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
07:00 * azawawi goes into standby mode :)
07:03 CSJewell2 The patch is there. Why it won't let you download it, I don't know.
07:09 Hyppolit svn: r7583 | CSJewell++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7583
07:09 Hyppolit Include patch in BUILDING.txt file.
07:09 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
07:10 CSJewell2 That should help. Also, now that the new version of Strawberry is on CPAN, you should use it, rather than the svn version.
07:11 CSJewell2 azawawi: ^^
07:13 Hyppolit svn: r7584 | CSJewell++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7584
07:13 Hyppolit Added one other module you need to install.
07:13 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
07:14 azawawi great...
07:14 * azawawi follows BUILDING.txt instructions
07:18 CSJewell2 I've got to go to bed, so can't help more tonight. E-mail me if you need more help, OK?
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07:20 azawawi CSJewell: ok.. thanks
07:20 CSJewell Actually, you need the patch in order to generate a build that does not complain. That's why it's important.
07:21 azawawi but it is included in the latest Alien wxwidgets (0.44) right?
07:28 CSJewell I really don't think it is.
07:29 CSJewell It's in wxWidgets trunk, but they haven't released a new version since 2.8.10.
07:30 CSJewell So Alien::wxWidgets didn't use it, and Mattia was uncomfortable with using it in that module..
07:33 azawawi ah i see ... thanks... good night :)
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12:24 Hyppolit svn: r7585 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7585
12:24 Hyppolit example dragging butterfly on wx
12:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/examples/wx/ trunk/Padre/share/examples/wx/img/
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13:16 autrijus hi audreyt|work
13:19 CSJewell There are days I've said hi to myself, too.
13:20 autrijus your time capsule is in the cabinet of master bedroom (my room)/
13:20 autrijus hi CSJewell
13:21 audreyt|work isis-posing-as-autrijus: understood, thank-you for the information.
13:21 autrijus hi yours truly
13:22 * wolverian is confused
13:22 Alias Well both of them are on Taipai IPs
13:22 autrijus they don't know who is sisi
13:22 autrijus oh....isis
13:22 Alias er, Taipei
13:23 audreyt isis: let's bring this to /msg :) there's really no need to introduce even more phantasies to this channel...
13:24 autrijus because I asked you to delete the post related to Isis Kang. :)
13:24 * audreyt resorts to a direct intervention-by-example :)
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13:25 daxim 康?
13:25 autrijus 是的
13:25 Alias http://www.linkedin.com/in/isism?
13:25 autrijus maybe...
13:27 autrijus http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=24​21350&l=86cf95998c&id=753560962
13:28 Alias I know
13:28 Alias Your aura is strong
13:28 autrijus sharp?
13:29 Alias ?
13:29 autrijus :)
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14:15 sjn Hm. topic says latest Padre is 0.44, but my CPAN mirror has only 0.43. :-(
14:16 daxim your mirror makes this dog sick.  http://mirrors.cpan.org/img/stale.jpg
14:18 sjn http://mirrors.cpan.org/sh​owmirror.cgi?name=funet.fi
14:18 sjn that's the one I'm using
14:18 * sjn thought that was one of the better ones...
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14:21 Hyppolit svn: r7586 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7586
14:21 Hyppolit add image drawing eample without a tail
14:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/examples/wx/
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14:37 azawawi good evening
14:37 szabgab good evening
14:38 szabgab azawawi, can you try the new sx sample scripts I committed?
14:38 szabgab in share/example/wx/
14:39 azawawi sure
14:42 azawawi nice it works (the drag-a-butterfly example)
14:43 szabgab one of them should have the tail the other one not
14:43 azawawi names and license comments need an update though
14:44 azawawi yup it is cool
14:45 azawawi reminds me of programming my first circle application on gw-basic :)
14:45 szabgab have you checked out scratch.mit.edu ?
14:47 azawawi nice
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14:54 sjn Btw, would it be sensible to use ITC Garamond Light as the font in the Padre spash image?
14:54 sjn (this font here: <http://www.flickr.com/photos​/phillipadsmith/3815135506/>)
14:55 szabgab sjn, some probably will need to redo the whole website in a few weeks/months
14:55 szabgab some \ one /
14:56 Alias sjn: I loved his splash logo
14:56 Alias We need permission to steal it outright
14:56 sjn Alias: yes, it's very nice
14:57 sjn don't think we need permission to use a font...
14:57 sjn not ok 35 - Script share/examples/wx/30_editor.pl compiles
14:57 Alias http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3​432/3814316255_9d4632558c_o.jpg
14:58 Alias I want that outright
14:58 sjn perl -Mblib -c share/examples/wx/30_editor.pl
14:58 szabgab Alias, btw I sent an e-mail to the author of our splash screen about a week ago
14:58 sjn Can't locate File/Slurp.pm in @INC
14:58 szabgab no response so far
14:59 szabgab is File::Slurp listed in Makefile.Pl ?
14:59 sjn looks like File::Slurp isn't set as a requirement in 0.44
14:59 sjn even if that test uses it
15:00 daxim what the hell, Alias.  can't you see the kerning among the top 5 letters is totally buggered in that logo?
15:00 szabgab oh wait, that's not a test script
15:00 Alias no...
15:00 Alias I only do font mojo on business cards
15:00 Alias And other physical things
15:00 sjn t/01-load.t tests it
15:00 szabgab that's a demo script that the test tries to tun ?
15:01 sjn not ok 35 - Script share/examples/wx/30_editor.pl compiles
15:01 szabgab so I guess I better stop using File::Slurp in that example
15:02 sjn that would be an acceptable solution :)
15:02 szabgab I wonder if this is broken in the release version of Padre ?
15:03 sjn or, you could propose a new META.yml keyword "example_requires" :D
15:03 sjn this is in 0.44
15:03 szabgab well , this would need a test_requires_for_examples
15:03 Alias unf
15:03 Alias I wouldn't
15:04 szabgab so I'll fix it in the branch
15:04 sjn Alias: you'll deal with the reprecussions, right? :)
15:04 Alias There's really a limit to how complex we should be making these dependency sets
15:04 Alias Even release_testing is a teensy bit over the limit
15:04 szabgab sjn, he took it seriously I guess :-)
15:04 sjn :D
15:05 * sjn slaps Alias with a herring
15:06 szabgab that's still better than with a whale ...
15:06 szabgab I can't fix it now, my svn connection is way slow
15:06 sjn whales require too much effort to give impact
15:06 szabgab sjn, would you like to fix it ?
15:07 * azawawi tries building instructions for Perl::Dist::Padre
15:07 sjn szabgab: I'll think I'll stay in the "will complain about trivialities on irc" category for now
15:08 szabgab well, I tried :-)
15:08 szabgab you could at least help with the .no translation :-)
15:09 sjn sure
15:09 sjn I'll keep an eye out for translation issues
15:10 sjn btw, the quick-find search widget doesn't expand with window resize
15:10 szabgab so we would like to make sure the translations are up to date for the 0.45 release
15:10 sjn also, I'd _love_ it if the quickfind was the default Ctrl-F search behaviour
15:10 Alias We're going to get there
15:11 sjn awesome
15:11 Alias I'm working on search still
15:13 sjn hm. for some reason, CPAN insists that 0.43 is the latest one, even if 0.44 is downloadable
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15:14 szabgab sjn, outdated mirror?
15:14 Hyppolit svn: r7587 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7587
15:14 Hyppolit [Perl::Dist::Padre] Fixed patch command to work on win32 in BUILDING.txt
15:14 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
15:15 sjn szabgab: I'm using funet.fi as mirror...
15:16 sjn that one should be pretty updated at any time :-P
15:18 azawawi sjn: i found this one good also http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/pub/CPAN/
15:20 sjn azawawi: according to SITES.html (on your URL), funet.fi is the CPAN master site...
15:20 sjn weird, eh
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15:24 rindolf Hi all.
15:24 rindolf I created http://www.advogato.org/proj/Padre/
15:25 rindolf And sorry that I didn't announce the latest Padre release on Freshmeat.net.
15:25 rindolf I also didn't announce Latemp 0.6.0 yet. hmmm...
15:25 szabgab rindolf, you can still do it
15:26 rindolf szabgab: yes, I know.
15:26 rindolf I'll do it now.
15:26 szabgab and thanks for the Advogato submission
15:27 rindolf szabgab: you're welcome.
15:27 rindolf szabgab: http://padre.perlide.org/download.html - the Linux links are at the bottom.
15:28 szabgab what do you mean?
15:31 rindolf Done. Don't know if you can see it - http://freshmeat.net/proje​cts/padre/releases/304420
15:32 rindolf Ah, it's OK in a different firefox.
15:32 Hyppolit svn: r7588 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7588
15:32 Hyppolit [Perl::Dist::Padre] Fits on a 80-col console (doc changes)
15:32 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
15:32 rindolf And it's also OK , after I reduce the font.
15:32 rindolf szabgab: try increasing the font.
15:34 rindolf http://padre.perlide.org/download.html - here.
15:35 szabgab rindolf,  I am sorry but I don't think I can deal with that
15:35 rindolf szabgab: OK.
15:35 rindolf szabgab: I can try too.
15:35 szabgab yes, you can
15:38 rindolf One of them is float: left and width: 49% . The other is float: right and width: 49% . It should work.
15:39 rindolf szabgab: there are some markup errors.
15:41 rindolf OK, I'll correct it after my walk.
15:42 rindolf <azazul> rindolf, the cause if this is , that you have a  width in %  and margin in  em's
15:47 szabgab heading home  &
15:52 Hyppolit svn: r7589 | daxim++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7589
15:52 Hyppolit markup validates
15:52 Hyppolit
15:52 Hyppolit regression introduced in r7416
15:52 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlid​e.org/documentroot/static/ trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/lib/
15:53 daxim first :p
16:05 azawawi CSJewell: ping
16:18 CSJewell was afk. What do you need?
16:21 CSJewell azawawi: For US use, http://cpan.hexten.net/ is an "every-5-minute mirror". I often use them.
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16:40 rindolf Hi szabgab
16:40 szabgab hi
16:40 rindolf szabgab: maybe I'll fix the HTML+CSS now.
16:40 szabgab good
16:40 rindolf szabgab: with your permission.
16:41 szabgab if you have checked it working, then do it
16:50 szabgab BTW if anyone is interested I have 3  Dreamwidth invitations
17:00 shadowpaste "daxim" at 217.168.144.84 pasted "rindolf, some HTML validation fixes" (32 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/33048
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17:10 rindolf daxim: your patch is out of date.
17:10 daxim impossible
17:11 daxim I rebased just seconds before
17:12 azawawi CSJewell: i am stuck in the patch part, are we using Alien:wxWidgets 0.43 or 0.44?
17:13 Hyppolit svn: r7590 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7590
17:13 Hyppolit [Perl-Dist-Padre] Added the 5-min cpan mirror
17:13 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
17:13 rindolf Why does build/all.pl uses so many modules that are not in Mandriva?
17:14 CSJewell azawawi: The patch is based on 0.43.
17:14 CSJewell Haven't updated it for 0.44 yet.
17:14 azawawi CSJewell: --- Alien-wxWidgets-0.43\patches\dataSun May 10 01:48:23 2009 +++ Alien-wxWidgets-0.44\patches\dataSun Jul 05 21:51:28 2009
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17:15 CSJewell I had named the directory 0.44 when I named the patch. Disregard that.
17:16 azawawi CSJewell: patch here complains when patching it
17:16 azawawi CSJewell: i used GNUWin32's patch
17:16 azawawi CSJewell: it asks 3 times
17:16 CSJewell I had tried it with the patch that's in Alien::wxWidgets and it works.
17:17 * azawawi tries again
17:17 CSJewell You may need to change the 0.44's in the directories to 0.43's.
17:17 CSJewell (or should I say, it worked)
17:17 azawawi can't find file to patch at input line 4...
17:18 azawawi and then it is ask for file to patch
17:18 azawawi s/is ask/asks/
17:19 azawawi are u using cygwin or something?
17:19 CSJewell No, I'm not.
17:20 azawawi i tried the following to make it work on xp: 'Alien-wxWidgets-0.43\inc\bin\patch < version-rc.patch.txt'
17:20 CSJewell Are you in the directory above Alien-wxWidgets-0.43?
17:21 CSJewell Once my sister gets off the other computer, I'll try it and see if it works.
17:21 azawawi http://gist.github.com/175654
17:22 CSJewell OK. It should work.
17:22 azawawi CSJewell: That would be great. Thanks for your help :)
17:23 CSJewell It may be 40 minutes - they're leaving then to visit my dad - he's in the hospital right now.
17:24 CSJewell Are you still going to be here?
17:25 azawawi yeah
17:25 azawawi i got distracted with a vista prompt...
17:25 azawawi i hope you're dad is alright..
17:25 azawawi s/you're/your/
17:26 CSJewell I hope so, too.
17:26 azawawi after fasting, things gets blurry... :)
17:26 azawawi s/gets/get/  :)
17:26 CSJewell I know the feeling.
17:27 CSJewell I'll head out to mow the back yard while I'm waiting.
17:27 CSJewell &
17:28 garu CSJewell, hope your father gets well soon too
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17:28 garu szabgab, why did you congratulate El_Che for the other day?
17:29 * garu is nosy :)
17:30 Hyppolit svn: r7591 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7591
17:30 Hyppolit [Perl-Dist-Padre] Added -p0 to patch to make it work
17:30 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
17:30 azawawi Pinocchio :)
17:31 Hyppolit svn: r7592 | shlomif++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7592
17:31 Hyppolit Got tt/pages/download.html's XHTML to validate.
17:31 Hyppolit
17:31 Hyppolit Thanks to daxim++ .
17:31 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/
17:34 daxim you forgot tt/pages/code_of_conduct.html, the link's not marked up right
17:35 azawawi CSJewell: -p0 was the solution
17:36 daxim you must be very tired.  next time I'm just going to do it myself
17:39 szabgab garu, 2009-08-25.log:13:50:43 <El_Che> it's a baby girl! never to early to learn perl :)
17:42 szabgab CSJewell, what happened?
17:42 szabgab CSJewell, do you want to tell us?
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17:51 CSJewell2 (swapped computers)
17:52 CSJewell2 He's been in the hospital on and off for the past few weeks - the finally found out yesterday that his liver is failing, and I hear that the kidneys are, too.
17:53 Hyppolit svn: r7593 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7593
17:53 Hyppolit [Perl-Dist-Padre] Refactoring BUILDING.txt :)
17:53 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
17:55 szabgab CSJewell2, that's bad
17:55 azawawi Alien::wxWidgets 0.43 is incompatible with the new M:B, switching to 0.44
17:55 CSJewell2 azawawi: Forgot about that detail.
17:56 szabgab CSJewell2, how do you hold yourself together?
17:56 CSJewell2 I'll know in a few days how things are going - now that he's in the hospital, he's improving.
17:57 CSJewell2 I don't think they've completely failed yet.
17:58 azawawi CSJewell2: I am glad to hear he's improving.
17:59 rindolf daxim: I didn't forget it - it's just that I was trying to fix the download page.
17:59 CSJewell2 (mouse wants batteries changed. This one eats batteries.)
17:59 azawawi if remove is going taking a while, "please wait a minute" may be a wrong thing to say to the user... what about "Please wait for a while" or "May take several minutes"?
18:01 CSJewell2 When uninstalling Strawberry, you mean?
18:01 azawawi yeah
18:01 azawawi "Scanning for added files to delete... (please wait a minute)" to be exact
18:01 CSJewell2 I'll be fixing that for October to 1) say just that, and 2) Give more feedback.
18:02 CSJewell2 2) as in adjusting the progress bar instead of making it static.
18:02 szabgab SGA S5E01 & # maybe back later
18:02 azawawi hmmm didnt watch S05
18:03 azawawi even though i watched the last seasons...
18:03 azawawi ah SGA... i watched them all :)
18:03 azawawi S05 sucks a bit
18:18 Hyppolit svn: r7594 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7594
18:18 Hyppolit [Perl-Dist-Padre] More enhancements to BUILDING instructions
18:18 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
18:31 Hyppolit svn: r7595 | shlomif++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7595
18:31 Hyppolit static.css the style="" attributes and fix download.html in large fonts.
18:31 Hyppolit
18:31 Hyppolit I've spent a lot of time debugging the style="" attributes in the HTML
18:31 Hyppolit which over-rided all my changes to the stylesheet. I got rid of them
18:31 Hyppolit and replaced them with saner ones in the static.css.
18:31 Hyppolit
18:31 Hyppolit I also fixed the fact that when resizing fonts the right column sometimes
18:31 Hyppolit overflowed to be placed below the left one.
18:31 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlid​e.org/documentroot/static/ trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/
18:31 rindolf azawawi: Star Gate what?
18:32 azawawi rindolf: Star Gate Atlantis...
18:32 rindolf azawawi: ah.
18:32 azawawi rindolf: the last season sucked a bit...
18:32 rindolf azawawi: ah.
18:33 azawawi rindolf: waiting for Star Gate Universe...
18:33 rindolf azawawi: ah.
18:36 garu szabgab, wow cool! I missed that
18:36 garu El_Che, congratulations too!
18:36 Hyppolit svn: r7596 | shlomif++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7596
18:36 Hyppolit Fixed a validation problem in the code of conduct, thanks to daxim++.
18:36 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/
18:36 azawawi El_Che: congratz even though i dont know why? :)
18:37 rindolf garu: what should we congratulate El_Che for?
18:37 rindolf Is float: top; valid CSS?
18:38 garu El_Che, her first gift? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lon​don.pm-Camel/dp/B00004TFW5/
18:38 garu El_Che had a baby girl!
18:40 azawawi ah double congratz then :)
18:43 azawawi CSJewell: I am done with the Alien::wxWidgets 0.44 PAR thing. Thanks.
18:43 rindolf El_Che: congratulations.
18:43 rindolf El_Che: what is her name?
18:45 azawawi what's a good mac laptop for development?
18:46 rindolf azawawi: Linux!
18:47 azawawi :)
18:47 garu rindolf++
18:47 rindolf azawawi: Apple sucks - http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/apple/
18:47 * azawawi reads
18:47 Sewi rindolf++
18:47 garu but I like macs too... they don't sell computers, they sell a lifestyle
18:47 garu (whatever it means)
18:47 rindolf garu, Sewi : thanks.
18:50 CSJewell You're welcome.
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18:58 azawawi CSJewell: http://gist.github.com/175720 happens when building Perl-Dist-Padre
19:02 Hyppolit svn: r7597 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7597
19:02 Hyppolit [Perl-Dist-Padre] A better BUILDING.txt
19:02 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
19:09 Hyppolit svn: r7598 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7598
19:09 Hyppolit [Perl-Dist-Padre] final touches to BUILDING.txt
19:09 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
19:12 Hyppolit svn: r7599 | CSJewell++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7599
19:12 Hyppolit Since we use 'parent', it needs to be in the Makefile.PL.
19:12 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
19:12 CSJewell azawawi: Does that answer your question?
19:12 azawawi CSJewell: :)
19:12 azawawi http://gist.github.com/175728
19:13 rindolf El_Che: here?
19:14 azawawi CSJewell: i didnt install minicpan when it asked me
19:14 azawawi CSJewell: i skipped step 5a
19:15 CSJewell It's OK. It's an option, you don't have to do it.
19:15 CSJewell It just makes sure that CPAN doesn't change out from under you between attempts. I've had that happen.
19:15 * azawawi wants to test his laptop for building "Almost Six"
19:15 azawawi i see
19:19 CSJewell For your purposes, it
19:19 CSJewell 's not needed.
19:20 Hyppolit svn: r7600 | CSJewell++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7600
19:20 Hyppolit app_ver_name needed set.
19:20 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/lib/Perl/Dist/
19:21 CSJewell Let's try that and see if there are any problems.
19:21 azawawi it is nice to try always from a clean environment... catches deps problems easily...
19:22 azawawi i like it... CSJewell++
19:22 * azawawi fires the launch command...
19:25 azawawi http://gist.github.com/175742, another error :)
19:25 azawawi failure to launch
19:25 CSJewell This user does not exist. :)
19:27 CSJewell Wait. It stops there with no error at all?
19:27 azawawi is being on C:\ a requirement?
19:27 azawawi im using C:\tools\scratchy
19:27 CSJewell No, being in the root is not a requirement.
19:28 azawawi i made sure no strawberry existed before testing it... only bootperl
19:29 CSJewell Are you back at the prompt, or is it just taking a minute?
19:30 azawawi im trying again after removing c:\strawberry from PATH
19:31 azawawi no luck
19:31 azawawi it takes a min
19:32 azawawi it create c:\strawberry\cpan and c:\strawberry\licenses and then dies with that error
19:33 azawawi s/create/creates
19:33 CSJewell Paste it again, please. I didn't get the whole error.
19:33 azawawi not a min like 10 secs
19:33 azawawi http://gist.github.com/175742,
19:33 azawawi http://gist.github.com/175742
19:34 CSJewell I only get six lines - the last one is deleting the par directory (so that the PAR modules pass their tests)
19:35 CSJewell There's no error indicated there.
19:35 azawawi i know
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19:36 * azawawi debugs
19:39 CSJewell Try "perl -mPerl::Dist::AlmostSix -e Perl::Dist::AlmostSix->new()->run()"
19:39 CSJewell I'm getting the indication it isn't running the run() routine for whatever reason.
19:41 azawawi maybe i found it...
19:42 CSJewell & (dishes)
19:45 azawawi CSJewell: http://gist.github.com/175754
19:46 awnstudio i have to share this, google waves, http://www.darrenalawi.com​/google-waves-bye-to-email
19:47 szabgab oincwr, hi,  from .gr ?
19:47 oincwr yeah :)
19:47 oincwr hello
19:47 szabgab great!
19:47 oincwr thought of giving a look in #padre
19:47 szabgab we slowly cover the earth :-)
19:48 szabgab then we will take the stargate to other places too
19:48 oincwr lol
19:48 oincwr it is a cool product, why not
19:48 szabgab have you managed to install ?
19:49 Hyppolit svn: r7601 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7601
19:49 Hyppolit [Perl::Dist::Padre] Removed the .zip from the par file
19:49 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Dist-Padre/
19:49 oincwr yup, no problems
19:49 oincwr playing a bit with its sources as well as with pugs
19:51 szabgab ikari, with pugs ?
19:51 ikari yeah, i am interested in both projects
19:52 szabgab well audrey is here but as I can see she is now autrijus
19:52 szabgab autrijus, what happened?
19:54 szabgab CSJewell, Alias azawawi do we have a fix for this: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/266  ?
19:55 CSJewell szabgab: Not that I know of.
19:57 ikari szabgab: thanks, most helpful
19:57 ikari ;)
20:01 azawawi szabgab: yeah i remember fixing that... let me check it...
20:03 azawawi szabgab: sorry that was another bug... this is an old one...
20:03 szabgab somone just mentioned it on my blog post
20:03 azawawi szabgab: cannot verify it now... since im building Six or trying it :)
20:03 szabgab that this is very bothersome for windows users
20:04 azawawi let me check it
20:05 * azawawi removes Bootstrap Perl :)
20:06 azawawi szabgab: which blog post?
20:07 szabgab http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/08/1249553120.html
20:09 azawawi szabgab: http://www.asciiville.com/200​9/08/padre-041-plus-003.html
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20:10 azawawi ah i see
20:10 rindolf Hi all.
20:11 rindolf http://shlom.in/intro-lang - behold my URL redirectory.
20:11 szabgab azawawi, nice, can you add that to the about page ?
20:11 rindolf http://shlom.in/intro-lang - behold my URL redirector.
20:11 rindolf It's my own personal URL shortener.
20:13 azawawi sure...
20:15 Sewi Off for bed now. Please cross fingers for me tomorrow... need to pass a huge test :-(
20:18 szabgab ikari, so I don't see much perl mongers activity in .gr  is there a group ?
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20:20 Hyppolit svn: r7602 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7602
20:20 Hyppolit [website] Added a blog post to About page
20:20 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
20:21 ikari szabgab: there are some groups for perl but the problem is that a lot of people have went pythonic.
20:22 ikari it is still considered to be a dark art :)
20:22 szabgab aka to the space language ?
20:22 * ikari hates space languages
20:22 ikari you space out with them, bad trip
20:22 szabgab so I wonder if we could give a new spin to Perl with Padre in Greek ?
20:23 ikari a translation you mean
20:23 szabgab yes
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20:24 ikari hmm
20:26 ikari ok i will look into it
20:26 ikari you have a specific guideline and roadmap for these things, before diving into the website any initial hints?
20:30 CSJewell Leaving for now.
20:30 ikari nm found everything
20:33 szabgab ikari,  great
20:34 szabgab I guess it won't make it into the next release that comes out in 2-3 days though if you have an initial version we could put it in already
20:39 azawawi szabgab: switching wperl.exe on win32 padre means we need file logging on asap...
20:39 azawawi szabgab: with rotation
20:39 szabgab file loggin ?
20:39 szabgab g
20:39 szabgab what for?
20:40 azawawi szabgab: if we had Padre crash, ...etc... for logging various events
20:41 azawawi szabgab: otherwise how are we going to debug problems with no console...
20:41 szabgab ah, bud Padre does not cra..
20:41 azawawi :)
20:41 azawawi Murphy's law
20:42 szabgab I think you we can have a configuration that first opens a dos window and then runs padre
20:43 azawawi Or two shortcuts: one debug and one release
20:43 szabgab so the default icon will run it directly but if you want the debug window you can have that
20:43 szabgab yeah, at least until we have a better solution
20:44 szabgab Though probably we don't need to install the debug version on regular users computer
20:45 azawawi once in wperl, any perl.exe invocation would result in a nasty quick black command line popup...
20:50 azawawi so we need to modify padre.bat in strawberry, and make another padre_debug.bat. i think that's the WiX installer job...
20:51 szabgab Oh actually that might be a good idea to install the padre_debug.bat as well but without an icon or a shortcut
20:52 azawawi szabgab: since there are 2 ways a user can run padre on win32 (from the start menu, and from start menu/run program)
20:53 azawawi szabgab: if you're already a console and you ran an application that required a console; the same console is re-used...
20:53 azawawi szabgab: if wperl is used, the command is executed like in 'padre &' on linux
20:54 ikari szabgab: I will start working on it
20:54 szabgab ikari, that would be great
20:55 azawawi szabgab: could add CSJewell to ticket #266? I do not have that option enabled.
20:56 szabgab I don't see such option either, just a CC field
20:56 szabgab do you see that field?
20:57 azawawi i see
20:57 azawawi not a problem... i'll follow up with him in the morning
20:58 * azawawi takes a note
20:58 szabgab anyway I just enabled registration on trac
20:58 szabgab after configuring the akismet spam, filter
20:58 szabgab I wonder what will happen?
20:59 szabgab garu, ping
20:59 azawawi we'll see...
20:59 azawawi szabgab: any way we could backup all those wikis on a daily/weekly basis?
20:59 szabgab it is being backed up
20:59 szabgab but it is an sqlite database
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21:00 azawawi cool
21:00 szabgab so digging out a single page is difficult
21:00 szabgab if someone deletes it by mistake :-)
21:00 azawawi :)
21:01 azawawi i was thinking like a script that takes a snapshot of these wikis...
21:01 azawawi how often is the template built (for the website)?
21:02 szabgab on every commit
21:03 garu szabgab, pong
21:04 szabgab garu, I think I have not said thank you for releasing 0.44 yet
21:04 azawawi hmm padre's wikipedia page is not up-to-date..
21:04 szabgab but the reason I was pinging you is that I enabled the registration on trac
21:04 garu szabgab, don't mention it, my pleasure
21:05 szabgab and added akismet spam filter
21:05 garu szabgab, ah cool! how's that gonna work now?
21:05 szabgab I have no idea
21:05 szabgab I wanted to give it a try though I have slight second thhoughts that I might need to delay it for the morning when I am around
21:06 azawawi garu: thank you, garu++, garu+=100 :)
21:06 szabgab but better yet, will you be around for some time now ?
21:06 garu azawawi, bleh :)
21:06 garu szabgab, yeah
21:06 garu just let me know if you need anything
21:07 * azawawi edits Padre's wikipedia entry
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21:09 szabgab garu, just keep an eye on the timeline
21:09 szabgab I'll give you TRAC_ADMIN rights
21:10 azawawi szabgab: updated to 0.44 on wikipedia...
21:10 szabgab is wikipedia now using Padre 0.44 :-)
21:11 szabgab garu, can you pleas check trac and see that you have the admin link on the top right
21:11 azawawi :)
21:11 garu sure, give me a minute
21:11 ikari guys I will be doing a gr translation for Padre
21:11 azawawi adding logo...
21:11 * szabgab hands a  minute to garu
21:11 garu ikari, greek? cool!
21:11 ikari should have it ready next week though; tied up with some work here
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21:12 szabgab ikari, if you want a partial version to be include in the next major version that is in 2-3 days
21:12 kentnl I have padre segfaulting when I close a window, how do I get a backtrace? gdb appears to think its terminating normally :/
21:12 szabgab otherwise just the next regular release which happens about weekly anyway
21:12 kentnl close a tab*
21:13 szabgab kentnl, OS? Padre version ?
21:13 szabgab oh you mean you get that when you close one of the tabs,
21:13 kentnl Gentoo, Linux, Perl 5.10.1 , padre 0.44
21:13 szabgab wow
21:13 szabgab and wxWidgets and wxPerl ?
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21:14 ikari szabgab: can't promise now and not deliver; better underpromise and overdeliver :)
21:14 szabgab yes, sure, don't promise
21:14 szabgab I am just telling you the schedule so you know
21:14 ikari yup :)
21:15 kentnl wxGTK 2.8.10.1-r3 , wxperl 0.92 , Alien-wxWidgets 0.44
21:15 szabgab it is alway fun to see once work release so quickly
21:15 kentnl its been doing it since 0.42
21:16 szabgab kentnl, so you say earlier it was ok ?
21:17 kentnl not really, it worked normally for a while, but then I discovered I had tabs I wanted to close, and they caused segfaults, so I stopped using padre
21:17 * kentnl had only been using padre for 1hour total at that time
21:17 kentnl and when I resurrect sessions, the tabs are still there
21:18 kentnl if I could get a stack trace I could be slightly more helpful, but I don't know how
21:18 szabgab ah so you don't know if it ever worked as advertised on your system, mean you never saw it working without segfault when closing tabs
21:18 kentnl that would be a correct statement szabgab
21:18 azawawi szabgab: what's license on padre's logo?
21:18 szabgab ok
21:18 szabgab azawawi, it is somewhere in the readmes I don
21:18 szabgab 't remember
21:19 kentnl but given that I essentially assist with the distribution of perl and padre on my $dist, then its either my fault, my responsibilty to fix, or its a problem with a dependant ( that is, if its not actually a problem with padre )
21:19 szabgab kentnl, I don't know how to debug on the C level so I cannot help with that, you could try to insert print statements in the callbacks to see where you might catch something
21:20 szabgab we have not seen this on other systems
21:20 szabgab I have not seen any report of this
21:20 kentnl that said, everything thread-based is a bit touchy for some reason, I really would like to sort that out but cant see the cause
21:21 garu szabgab, ok, admin page loads for me
21:21 szabgab that part is running in the main thread
21:21 kentnl like if I run  padre under perl -d , it doesn't even start due to "panic: realloc from wrong pool"
21:21 szabgab garu, then please click on plugins
21:21 szabgab kentnl, that sounds really bad
21:22 szabgab bud wait are you saying you are packagin padre for Gentoo?
21:22 kentnl yes, but its essentially "Download, padre source, run make, run make install, copy files to hard drive"
21:22 szabgab garu, you should see 4 entries in the middle, click on TracAccountManager 0.2.1dev-r5837
21:22 azawawi szabgab: uploading a file to wikipedia has a lot of legal stuff...
21:22 kentnl thats  basically al thats occuring in the build
21:22 szabgab oh, the icon of padre is from wikipedia
21:23 szabgab so you could just link to that same page
21:23 garu szabgab, I see 5 (trac, irc, navadd, tracaccountmanager and tracspamfilter). Clicking
21:23 szabgab azawawi, see share/icons/padre/README.txt
21:24 szabgab it points to  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wik​i/File:Blue_morpho_butterfly.jpg
21:24 kentnl its  only in an overlay at the moment too, not in mainline gentoo.
21:24 szabgab garu, yeah, I just cant count till 5
21:24 garu szabgab, cool: several components, just a few selected
21:24 szabgab so click on the accountmanager link
21:25 garu apply?
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21:25 szabgab the last one RegistrationModule is the one that enables disables registration
21:25 szabgab so if you see that spam is coming in, please disable registration
21:25 garu ok
21:26 szabgab kentnl, anyway it is great to know, we have most of the other packagers here in the channel
21:26 garu where do I usually look for spam? the changes page?
21:26 szabgab garu, in the 'timeline'
21:26 garu szabgab, right
21:26 garu kentnl, could this be a problem with threaded perl on gentoo?
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21:26 kentnl szabgab: wheres' the perl core channel/p5p? maybe they can solve my threading issue
21:26 garu or maybe with wx?
21:26 szabgab you will see starnge wiki pages showing up
21:27 garu szabgab, yeah, we went through that once
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21:27 szabgab in this server called #p5p
21:27 kentnl joined #padre
21:27 szabgab in this server called #p5p
21:27 kentnl oh? I whois'd that and got no reps
21:27 kentnl oh well, guess it is there after all
21:28 szabgab garu, yes, we had the tons of spam showing up there
21:29 garu szabgab, so, the new spamfilter Ryan52 mentioned, is it there?
21:29 szabgab theoretically it the spam filter should stop them but I have no idea if that really works
21:29 garu (or I think it was ryan)
21:29 szabgab I turned on the askimet spam filter
21:29 garu ok
21:29 szabgab let me check if it has some config panel
21:29 szabgab you can also check , it is in the same place
21:29 garu szabgab, what does setting "AccountManager" do?
21:30 szabgab no idea
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21:30 garu then why did you want me to select it? :)
21:30 garu <szabgab> so click on the accountmanager link
21:31 szabgab there is the TracAccountManager 0.2.1dev-r5837
21:31 szabgab I wanted you to click on that, to open the list of things
21:31 garu you meant that? oh...
21:31 garu I thought you meant -inside- that :)
21:32 * garu unmarks that option (whatever it did)
21:32 garu so, "RegistrationModule" is the one I should worry about. roger roger
21:33 szabgab yes, I don't know what the other one does
21:33 azawawi szabgab: done ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padre_(software)
21:33 szabgab garu, have you disabled it again ?
21:34 garu yeah, but I haven't clicked on "apply" so either way, it was never on in the first place
21:35 szabgab whatever, I have the config file under svn
21:35 szabgab and just committed it
21:35 garu cool
21:36 szabgab so don't worry about playing around with the options if you want to
21:36 garu so far, timeline shows no spam
21:37 azawawi good night &
21:38 szabgab garu, if you could play around and try to understand how to configure this spam filter plugin that would be great
21:38 szabgab azawawi, gn
21:38 garu night azawawi
21:38 szabgab I could not figure out how to use it with the regex filter
21:39 szabgab and I might have broken it totally by changing the Minimum karma
21:39 szabgab I still don't understand how it is supposed to work
21:39 szabgab oh and the #trac channel is on freenode but I could not get an answer there
21:40 garu I think we need to create a BadContent wiki page
21:40 garu or something like that
21:41 garu http://code.reddit.com/wiki/BadContent
21:41 szabgab I think I created one
21:41 garu oh
21:42 garu http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/BadContent
21:42 garu sorry :)
21:42 szabgab and I still could create wiki pages with string matching those regexes
21:43 garu with your own account?
21:44 garu or a newly created one?
21:44 szabgab I think both
21:45 garu hmm
21:45 garu guess we'll have to wait until some spam pops up
21:45 garu I'll be on the lookout
21:45 szabgab and I don't even see anything showing up in the monitor (logging of the spam filter)
21:47 garu damn thing must be broken
21:51 szabgab garu, just one thing, don't turn on logging in General/Logging as that will fill the hard dis within an hour
21:51 garu sure thing
21:52 szabgab I think I better go to bed now
21:53 szabgab it is 1 am already
21:54 szabgab night &
21:56 garu good night szabgab
21:56 garu thanks for the tips!
21:57 ikari lol, there is a klingon locale
21:57 ikari like, lol
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22:31 ikari bye szabgab, #padre, see you soon with another .po
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23:02 * garu wonders how hard it would be to find someone capable of translating Padre to tlhIngan Hol
23:30 submersible tlhingan?
23:39 garu that's klingon for "klingon"

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