Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2009-09-01

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02:18 szabgab good very early morning
02:37 Ryan52 garu: is trunk mine now?
02:37 Ryan52 szabgab: good morning
02:38 szabgab gm
02:38 szabgab has he released 0.45 ?
02:38 Ryan52 I'm not sure, that's what I'm asking :)
02:40 Ryan52 23 hours ago garu told me he was going to release it within 24 hours, but apparently hasn't.
02:40 Ryan52 not that it's a big deal or anything :)
02:51 szabgab he still has 60 minutes :-)
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05:45 Sewi Good morning
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06:18 Hyppolit svn: r7664 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7664
06:18 Hyppolit Fixed various open bugs which exist on Gnome but not on Windows
06:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
06:19 Hyppolit svn: r7665 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7665
06:19 Hyppolit Updated messages.pot
06:19 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
06:22 Hyppolit svn: r7666 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7666
06:22 Hyppolit German translation updated to 100%
06:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
06:22 Ryan52 Sewi: woah... http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7664
06:22 Ryan52 you completely reindented.
06:23 Sewi Argh. Sorry. I just ran tidy. How could this happen?
06:23 Ryan52 always check "svn di" output before you commit.
06:24 Ryan52 hm, did you just run "perltidy"
06:24 Ryan52 ?
06:24 Ryan52 because that will reindent it wrong.
06:24 Ryan52 you need to use our tidy_pm_files.pl
06:24 Sewi :-(
06:25 Sewi I used padre's PerlTidy plugin
06:25 Ryan52 ya, that's probably gonna do it wrong.
06:26 szabgab where wron just means not the way we do it in the Padre project
06:26 szabgab as a side note, next time please separate the functions changes to one commit
06:26 Hyppolit svn: r7667 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7667
06:26 Hyppolit tidy
06:26 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
06:26 szabgab and then the perltidy results to a separate commit
06:27 szabgab it is just easier to track changes that way
06:27 Sewi szabgab: I changed only one function: line 2808 in Main.pm
06:28 Sewi There are two if's just next to each other which cover the most annoying things on Gnome and should never be used on Windows, because the dialog handles it at OS level.
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06:44 azawawi good morning
06:47 szabgab Sewi, have you explained this in the comment next to the code?
06:47 szabgab azawawi, gm
06:47 Sewi gm azawawi
06:49 Sewi szabgab: Sorry, you're right.
06:50 szabgab Actually I am more or like left, but maybe that's irrelevant here ;-)
06:51 Sewi Maybe :)
06:51 azawawi im still sleepy even though im at work :)
06:56 Hyppolit svn: r7668 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7668
06:56 Hyppolit Respect OS specific issues (and added comments) (szabgab++)
06:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
06:58 azawawi szabgab: Take a look at what audrey has been doing quietly http://use.perl.org/~audreyt/journal/ :)
06:59 azawawi oops i take that back...
06:59 azawawi that's 2008
06:59 azawawi my mistake
06:59 azawawi still sleepy :)
07:13 Alias whoa
07:13 Alias someone broke Main.pm history
07:13 * Alias stares at Sewi
07:16 Sewi Alias: Sorry, seems to be no good day for me for coding :-( Where does it happen?
07:30 Sewi Oh, you meant the tidy thing? Sorry for this. First time I didn't do svn diff before Makefile.PL/make test/commit :-(
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09:07 Hyppolit svn: r7669 | daxim++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7669
09:07 Hyppolit remove wiki scraping, screenshot page is static
09:07 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/ trunk/template.padre.perlide.​org/inc/Local/Padre/Website/
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11:12 Hyppolit svn: r7670 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7670
11:12 Hyppolit Added in Getopt::Long.
11:12 Hyppolit
11:12 Hyppolit Requires --version and --release parameters
11:12 Hyppolit
11:12 Hyppolit Optional --path  and --tag
11:12 Hyppolit
11:12 Hyppolit --path now allows you to set a path to a Plugin etc as desired rather than being in the directory itself
11:12 Hyppolit
11:12 Hyppolit Since --path is optional, cwd is taken when not passed in.
11:12 Hyppolit trunk/tools/
11:16 waxhead szabgab: ping
11:21 waxhead ping a ding ding...
11:21 szabgab waxhead,  poing
11:22 waxhead oh.. was about to email in padre-dev
11:22 waxhead it's about the release.pl script...
11:22 szabgab sorry I was trying to help my son with blender
11:22 waxhead why does it take out the DISPLAY
11:22 szabgab anyone knows blender here?
11:22 waxhead that's OK.. you go do that...
11:22 waxhead I'll send an email on the dev list...
11:22 waxhead I played with it once...
11:22 szabgab because the Fedora packaging system works without DISPLAY
11:23 waxhead didn't have the patience to learn much... think I got a primative all twisted up and shiney... b
11:23 szabgab and we want to make sure our tests pass on that system
11:23 szabgab even if just by skipping them
11:23 waxhead szabgab: it broke the build on my system
11:23 waxhead ubuntu
11:23 waxhead I had to comment it out to see what it would do
11:24 szabgab then I guess you have to skip that test
11:24 waxhead szabgab: I also added in the getopts too
11:24 szabgab but don't remove the requirement from the release.pl
11:24 waxhead skip the test?
11:24 szabgab ok, let's go back a few steps
11:24 waxhead I wasn't going to take it out.. I just wanted to see if it would work...
11:24 waxhead nah.. you go do your stuff with your son...
11:24 szabgab you said the no DISPLAY broke your release?
11:24 waxhead this can wait...
11:25 szabgab he is ok now
11:25 waxhead it broke release.pl yes...
11:25 szabgab I told him I cannot help
11:25 szabgab and have you unbroke it now?
11:25 waxhead I tell my son "google knows all"
11:25 szabgab yes, but only in English
11:25 waxhead szabgab: only by commenting out the DISPLAY stuff...
11:26 szabgab and he does not know it well enough
11:26 waxhead oh.. well yes.. only in english...
11:26 waxhead I assumed english was spoken in your place as well given your english is better than mine!  :)
11:26 waxhead one shouldn't assume...
11:27 szabgab if my English is really better than yours then you have a problem :-)
11:28 szabgab so just to understand, is release.pl now working?
11:29 szabgab oh and maybe you want to add an explanation about why do we need to work without a DISPLAY so the next person won't need to ask
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11:29 waxhead szabgab: the only way I got release.pl to work was to comment out the display bit...
11:30 waxhead which isn't what you want because of the fedora packaging
11:30 szabgab on the SVN plugin or on Padre as well?
11:30 waxhead oh. on the SVN plugin...
11:30 waxhead I haven't added any tests.  so its the same test you wrote
11:30 szabgab ok, so what breaks in the SVN plugin when runninng release.pl?
11:31 szabgab but maybe we did not have the DISPLAY thing when we last released the SVN plugin
11:31 szabgab or I was not using the release.pl
11:31 szabgab so we don't know that it was ever working on that plugin
11:32 waxhead I pasted it last night... I'll grab it again..
11:32 waxhead but the test itself is this:
11:32 waxhead use Test::More tests => 1;
11:32 waxhead BEGIN {
11:32 waxhead use_ok( 'Padre::Plugin::SVN' );
11:32 waxhead }
11:32 waxhead diag( "Testing Padre::Plugin::SVN $Padre::Plugin::SVN::VERSION, Perl $], $^X" );
11:32 szabgab then I guess you'll need to skip that test when there is no DISPLAY
11:32 szabgab in Padre we skip almost all the tests when there is no display
11:33 shadowpaste "waxhead" at 124.176.60.6 pasted "release.pl dieing when DISPLAY is removed on Ubuntu" (133 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/33295
11:33 waxhead ok.. so I'll go check the t dir for Padre?
11:33 waxhead and see how to skip it?
11:34 waxhead oh.. and you can see the command line in use too!!!
11:35 szabgab yes, and thanks for the command line code!
11:38 waxhead sure... glad to be of service...
11:42 waxhead hmm..  I can't get it to skip the test when DISPLAY isn't set.
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11:45 azawawi hi
11:46 waxhead hey azawawi
11:47 azawawi what's up?
11:48 szabgab waxhead, maybe it is because it is in a BEGIN block
11:49 szabgab you might need to get rid of that
11:49 waxhead the BEGIN block?
11:49 waxhead azawawi: trying to get the plugin to "release.pl" without DISPLAY being set
11:50 azawawi which plugin?
11:50 szabgab waxhead, yes the test has a BEGIN block
11:50 waxhead szabgab: not at the moment here...
11:51 shadowpaste "waxhead" at 124.176.60.6 pasted "New Test" (23 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/33298
11:51 waxhead rather than checking it in...
11:51 azawawi szabgab: im off to my home :) Maybe on the weekend, i'll have time to finish the help topics... cya
11:52 waxhead azawawi: Padre-Plugin-SVN
11:52 azawawi &
11:52 waxhead man it's getting late here too...
11:52 szabgab waxhead, so maybe sleep on it
11:52 waxhead was up way too late last night and up early this morning...
11:52 waxhead sure... :)
11:52 szabgab I am sure there is a similar test in one of the other plugins
11:52 szabgab or in Padre
11:53 waxhead there must be..
11:53 waxhead I'll go take a look
11:57 waxhead DOH!!!
11:57 waxhead slaps head
11:58 waxhead I get it now.. my local changes for the test aren't in SVN!!!
11:58 waxhead hahahahahahaha....
11:59 Hyppolit svn: r7671 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7671
11:59 Hyppolit Include test for DISPLAY and skip if not set
11:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/t/
12:02 Hyppolit svn: r7672 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7672
12:02 Hyppolit Minor changes to test lay out
12:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/t/
12:06 Hyppolit svn: r7673 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7673
12:06 Hyppolit Minor changes to test DISPLAY checking
12:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/t/
12:09 Hyppolit svn: r7674 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7674
12:09 Hyppolit Minor changes to test DISPLAY checking
12:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/t/
12:10 waxhead hmmm
12:10 waxhead how can something so simple elude me tonight
12:12 Hyppolit svn: r7675 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7675
12:12 Hyppolit Minor changes to test DISPLAY checking
12:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/t/
12:16 daxim come on, waxhead, write some better commit messages
12:16 daxim I can see that it is a change and that it is minor, the message should elucidate the reason for the change
12:17 waxhead daxim: then it becomes self deprecating in tone..
12:17 waxhead but fair point...
12:17 waxhead for some reason it's not skipping the test...
12:18 waxhead hmm... it is locally now...
12:19 waxhead not sure why it's failing with the release.pl script...
12:19 waxhead I'll leave it until tomorrow night now...
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15:13 bricas anyone else see the giant gap between the logo and the text on the padre front page?
15:18 garu bricas, looks a little weird, yeah... but I think it was on purpose
15:18 garu 'morning everyone
15:18 garu sorry for not making the 0.45 release yet, lost internet connection
15:19 garu will do as soon as I get back from $work
15:22 bricas http://nopaste.at/200909a6302e51cc # seems a bit large to be on purpose.
15:23 szabgab I thought is is only on my wide scree
15:23 szabgab n
15:27 garu err, ok, it's not -that- far away on my browser
15:28 garu my text box starts around the "support" link
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16:10 El_Che on my browser just before the screenshots tab (1280*1024)
16:10 El_Che on the last 5th of the support tab
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16:23 garu so I guess we're not that cross-browser compatible...
16:28 El_Che i think it's more related to the resolution
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18:53 PerlJam been using padre all day.  There are some quirks, but overall ... awesome!
18:53 azawawi cool
18:53 azawawi what have you been doing with it so far?
18:54 PerlJam hacking a Catalyst app.
18:54 azawawi interesting
18:56 azawawi PerlJam: are you using Padre 0.44 or trunk?
18:56 PerlJam My main "problem" is that I keep wanting to use vi-keystrokes that padre doesn't grok.  I turned off the vi plugin and since none of the vi-keystrokes work, it's been much better :)
18:56 PerlJam 0.44
18:56 azawawi which ones do u use the most?
18:57 PerlJam cw dw come to mind immediately
18:58 PerlJam I also noticed that there's an off-by-one behvior when using i to go into insert mode.  It jumps back a character before entering insert mode.
18:58 PerlJam And when I do  "yyp", Padre dies a horrible death
18:59 azawawi the vi plugin has not been maintained for a while... I bet it is using some of the old API...
19:01 * azawawi takes notes
19:03 azawawi PerlJam: Padre over Linux, right?
19:04 PerlJam aye
19:04 azawawi cool
19:04 azawawi i tried today win32 powershell...
19:05 PerlJam how'd that go?
19:05 azawawi they dont want to put text between pipes but .net objects...
19:05 azawawi ofcourse for more lockin :)
19:05 azawawi cmdlets
19:06 azawawi i tried a couple of examples but will certainly try more tomorrow
19:07 azawawi startup of powershell under xp takes like 2-5 seconds (it seems to start .net vm)
19:09 Sewi It does.
19:09 azawawi and that's always ofcourse... so launching a command in a new powershell is not a good performance choice at the moment
19:10 azawawi good night... &
20:23 szabgab Interesting, Gmail has been down for me for 10-20 minutes now at least
20:26 garu me too
20:26 garu 502 server error
20:26 garu OMGSOMEONEBROKEGMAIL
20:26 Sewi Even Google is not "always up" :-)
20:29 garu ever wondered what if google stopped all of its services overnight? I'm thinking "mass suicide"
20:33 szabgab http://www.google.com/appsst​atus#rm=1&di=1&hl=en
20:33 szabgab &
20:51 Sewi good night
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23:07 skeeterbug hey garu are you in?
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23:11 skeeterbug i found an issue with the catalyst plugin
23:11 skeeterbug in lib/Padre/Plugin/Catalyst.pm, line 183, Padre->perl_interpreter is throwing an error. I checked the changelists in trac, and it appears that perl_interpreter was moved to Padre::Perl instead

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