| Time |
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Nick |
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| 00:00 |
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rhebus |
Does anyone know how to find the text currently selected? and separately, to delete the currently selected text? |
| 00:05 |
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skeeterbug |
StyledTextCtrl is in the Wx::STC |
| 00:05 |
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skeeterbug |
is in* |
| 00:14 |
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skeeterbug |
rhebus: according to the C++ docs, wxStyledTextCtrl has a GetSelectedText() method that returns a wxString, and DeleteBack() deletes the selection if there is one, if not, it deletes the character before the caret. |
| 00:16 |
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rhebus |
skeeterbug: thanks |
| 00:16 |
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rhebus |
where are these docs? |
| 00:16 |
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skeeterbug |
i am having a hard time finding any for perl |
| 00:17 |
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skeeterbug |
here is what i was looking at though |
| 00:17 |
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skeeterbug |
http://docs.wxwidgets.org/trun[…]ed_text_ctrl.html |
| 00:20 |
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rhebus |
thanks |
| 00:22 |
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skeeterbug |
np, did it work? |
| 00:24 |
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rhebus |
YES |
| 00:24 |
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rhebus |
yes it did |
| 00:25 |
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rhebus |
I have got extract subroutine working \o/ |
| 00:25 |
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rhebus |
though it needs some refinement |
| 00:25 |
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skeeterbug |
sweet, it looks like it loads the native STC library, so all those methods should map directly i would think |
| 00:25 |
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skeeterbug |
taking off for the night, good luck on your code |
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| 00:39 |
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rhebus |
I've submitted a patch for #531, anyone available to test and patch it in? |
| 00:44 |
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Ryan52 |
ugh new dependency. |
| 00:44 |
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rhebus |
garu: you still around? |
| 00:44 |
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rhebus |
Ryan52: is that a problem? |
| 00:44 |
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Ryan52 |
what's its test accuracy look like? |
| 00:44 |
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Ryan52 |
(and its deps) |
| 00:45 |
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rhebus |
it passes the existing make test |
| 00:45 |
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rhebus |
I haven't done any new testcases |
| 00:45 |
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rhebus |
what do you mean "and its deps"? |
| 00:45 |
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Ryan52 |
one sec. |
| 00:48 |
|
Ryan52 |
sorry, went afk. |
| 00:48 |
|
Ryan52 |
rhebus: http://deps.cpantesters.org/ |
| 00:48 |
|
Ryan52 |
Devel::Refactor has an 87% chance of installing successfully. |
| 00:49 |
|
Ryan52 |
so that's fine. |
| 00:51 |
|
Ryan52 |
tho it does still mean I have another thing to package for Debian, ugh. |
| 00:51 |
|
Ryan52 |
anyways, ignore me, Devel::Refactor looks fine. |
| 00:51 |
|
rhebus |
heh |
| 00:51 |
|
rhebus |
have you seen the functionality it provides though? :) |
| 00:52 |
|
* Alias |
wants a "rescan plugins" option in the plugin manager |
| 00:52 |
|
Alias |
So you can install new plugins on the fly without a restart |
| 00:52 |
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Ryan52 |
Alias: make a ticket =P |
| 00:53 |
|
Alias |
yeah, sigh |
| 00:53 |
|
Alias |
I think I shall just fix it |
| 00:53 |
|
Alias |
When I can find 10 minutes |
| 00:53 |
|
Ryan52 |
yay |
| 00:54 |
|
Alias |
(Since I wrote almost all of the relevant code) |
| 00:54 |
|
Alias |
<-- sux |
| 00:54 |
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Ryan52 |
if Alias "sux", then what does that mean about the rest of us?!? uh-oh. :) |
| 00:55 |
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rhebus |
Ryan52: if you decide to use/not to use my patch, can you let me know by email? I'm gonna have to leave soon |
| 00:55 |
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Ryan52 |
rhebus: what's your email address? |
| 00:55 |
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Ryan52 |
rhebus: I'll review it when I get back, I'm going for a bike ride. |
| 00:55 |
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rhebus |
sure thing |
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| 03:11 |
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CSJewell |
Uploading Padre Standalone now, but we'll still need a 12-hour embargo on the announcement, for the reason explained last night. |
| 03:19 |
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| 03:26 |
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ppant |
Hello Good Morning |
| 03:31 |
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| 03:35 |
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Alias |
oooo |
| 03:35 |
|
Alias |
"embargo" |
| 03:35 |
|
Alias |
Great way to describe it |
| 03:41 |
|
submersible |
release announcement embargo / |
| 03:41 |
|
submersible |
? |
| 03:45 |
|
CSJewell |
Yes. |
| 03:47 |
|
CSJewell |
The reason is that it's built on a machine that's set to GMT+10. Since the EU::MM checks the makefile's creation date for "out-of-dateness" against when perl\lib\Config.pm and perl\lib\CORE\config.h, it can't install new modules for about 12 hours more. |
| 03:49 |
|
submersible |
:P |
| 03:50 |
|
submersible |
wave of the future. |
| 03:51 |
|
submersible |
Yes - I guess you _MIGHT_ be able to play games w/ the build environment to say build in zulu time. |
| 03:52 |
|
submersible |
call it the - wait while the rest of the world catches up embargo |
| 04:04 |
|
CSJewell |
I'll have to see if I can do that for the next time. |
| 04:08 |
|
CSJewell |
[The time that's on those two files is 2009-09-10 5:22am. In my time zone (GMT-6) it] |
| 04:08 |
|
CSJewell |
it's 10:08pm on the 9th. |
| 04:11 |
|
CSJewell |
.msi is uploaded at http://strawberryperl.com/pack[…]andalone-0.45.msi, uploading of the .zip had to be restarted. |
| 04:12 |
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| 04:17 |
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szabgab |
good morning |
| 04:18 |
|
* szabgab |
opening tickets regarding stuff in the backlog |
| 04:18 |
|
szabgab |
thanks for the new contributors! |
| 04:19 |
|
szabgab |
CSJewell, thank you |
| 04:19 |
|
CSJewell |
good morning, szabgab... |
| 04:19 |
|
Alias |
When I build some of my stuff on my GMT server, I usually hand-twiddle all the files to be gmt dated |
| 04:19 |
|
Alias |
Just in case |
| 04:21 |
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CSJewell |
I'm in GMT-6 right now, so there's only 6 hours of people 'behind' me normally, and considering that it takes a few hours to put up all the announcements and stuff... it hasn't been much of a worry. |
| 04:21 |
|
* szabgab |
takes children to school |
| 04:21 |
|
CSJewell |
I will remember to roll it back the next time, however. |
| 04:23 |
|
CSJewell |
Set it to Anchorage time temporarily ... that way there's no trouble at all. |
| 04:30 |
|
szabgab |
CSJewell, could you please describe what is in that package and what are the known issues - related to packaging? I am not clear on that myself |
| 04:31 |
|
CSJewell |
That one is a "Padre Standalone" package - it's only Padre and its dependencies, not the "Plus Six" stuff. |
| 04:34 |
|
CSJewell |
It's based on 5.10.0 - but that's the last one that will be. It includes all but one of the upgrades to Strawberry that will be in the next beta: the "new libraries" that kmx has provided, DBD::Pg, DB_File, Imager and GD, Crypt::SSLeay, Net::SSLeay, Net::SSH::Perl and Module::Signature and their dependencies. |
| 04:36 |
|
CSJewell |
The one packaging issue is since I built it in an "in the future" time zone for just about everybody, it can't install modules until it passes the date and time that perl happened to be built [10 September, 5:22am] in the time zone of the person using it. |
| 04:37 |
|
CSJewell |
thus, the embargo on the announcement that I'm requesting. |
| 04:38 |
|
CSJewell |
It does NOT install its modules to vendor\ rather than site\ - I'm working on that right now, and once that's done, I'll start building a beta of Strawberry. |
| 04:41 |
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| 04:42 |
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CSJewell |
"Almost Six" I want to wait on until after Seattle is released, since it's coming up in - what, 8 days? |
| 04:42 |
|
Ryan52 |
parrot's got a new release in 8 days? |
| 04:42 |
|
Ryan52 |
that seems a bit soon.. |
| 04:42 |
|
CSJewell |
I thought it was the 17th. |
| 04:43 |
|
CSJewell |
It is: http://github.com/rakudo/rakud[…]release_guide.pod |
| 04:44 |
|
CSJewell |
Tonight's the 9th, correct? |
| 04:44 |
|
Ryan52 |
oh. so it is. /me adds to TODO list to email Allison. thanks for the reminder. :P |
| 04:45 |
|
Ryan52 |
ya, you're right. |
| 04:45 |
|
* Ryan52 |
is packaging rakudo for Debian, but had to wait for the next parrot version...felt like it came too soon :P |
| 05:01 |
|
szabgab |
CSJewell, so can I install that Padre stand-alone anywhere or only in c:\strawberry ? |
| 05:02 |
|
CSJewell |
Only in c:\strawberry - I'm looking at changing that in November (after the flood of reports from the October Strawberry release has gone down.) |
| 05:02 |
|
CSJewell |
The .zip is now uploaded. |
| 05:13 |
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| 05:15 |
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szabgab |
CSJewell, Alias see my description of what I think should be the Stand-alone package: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]n#StandalonePadre |
| 05:15 |
|
szabgab |
your comments pls |
| 05:18 |
|
* Alias |
is insanely busy over this week and next |
| 05:18 |
|
Alias |
I'll try, but can't promise. Remind me if I don't get back to you |
| 05:40 |
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CSJewell |
I'm working toward that - by January 2010, that should be complete. I can't guarantee earlier. |
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| 05:41 |
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Sewi |
gm |
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| 05:49 |
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CSJewell |
And please, November, not October, for the "install anywhere bit" - I won't have that done for October. |
| 05:52 |
|
CSJewell |
Basically, Strawberry works on a 3-month cycle - bug fixes from the release [and required rebuilds] in the release month (October), major changes in the next month (November, in this case), and the beta release and bug fixes from that in the month before the release (September and December). |
| 05:55 |
|
szabgab |
CSJewell, could you please edit that page then and add the schedule of the planned changes? |
| 05:55 |
|
CSJewell |
Okay. Will do. |
| 05:56 |
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szabgab |
finanalyst, nice place http://www.amrating.am/ |
| 06:02 |
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| 06:04 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: You're working on ticket #533? |
| 06:04 |
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szabgab |
no, I just opened it |
| 06:04 |
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| 06:04 |
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szabgab |
as I saw it was mentioned in the backlog |
| 06:05 |
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Sewi |
ok. |
| 06:05 |
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Sewi |
I didn't want to do steal someone else ticket :) |
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| 06:08 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7798 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7798 |
| 06:08 |
|
Hyppolit |
Fixed ticket #530: An empty parameter was given to the called script. |
| 06:08 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ |
| 06:11 |
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Sewi |
There is a new fix for ticket http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/531 which adds a new dependency. Shall it be appliled? |
| 06:16 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, yes I think we should do that |
| 06:17 |
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Ryan52 |
I said I was going to look at it, but please take care of it for me :) |
| 06:17 |
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Ryan52 |
I think the new dep is fine (I lookied into the dep). |
| 06:18 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: Ok, I didn't want to apply it without asking, because many others here have a much better knowledge of the Deps and what is done there... |
| 06:18 |
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CSJewell |
szabgab: Page edited. |
| 06:19 |
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szabgab |
CSJewell, ty |
| 06:20 |
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CSJewell |
I made the module names link to the .pm files in the 'trac browser', by the way. |
| 06:20 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, I care a lot less about what deps we have than Alias as I know someone will take care of these deps, (and it is usually Alias ;-) |
| 06:21 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7799 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7799 |
| 06:21 |
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Hyppolit |
Added a check for ticket #528: override package DB |
| 06:21 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ |
| 06:22 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: I already noticed that he really likes deps :-) |
| 06:22 |
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| 06:22 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7800 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7800 |
| 06:22 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Updated messages.pot |
| 06:22 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
| 06:23 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: You won :-) |
| 06:23 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7801 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7801 |
| 06:23 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Arabic translation at 99% |
| 06:23 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
| 06:23 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: won what? :) |
| 06:23 |
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azawawi |
good morning first |
| 06:24 |
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CSJewell |
& zzz.... |
| 06:24 |
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azawawi |
good night CSJewell |
| 06:24 |
|
azawawi |
great work on the package |
| 06:24 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: Updating messages.pot before I did :-) I made the update yesterday night and just added another text a minute before your update :-) |
| 06:24 |
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azawawi |
CSJewell++ |
| 06:24 |
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Sewi |
CSJewell: sleep well |
| 06:25 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, does the beginner mode actually work? |
| 06:25 |
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azawawi |
it seems that i dont not take your update :) |
| 06:25 |
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azawawi |
ah i took it :) |
| 06:25 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: I'm currently checking this. |
| 06:26 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: But I didn't want to mix up the ticket's fix and the Beginner-Mode-Fix (which seems to be neccessary). |
| 06:26 |
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szabgab |
Once you did, can you write up a description of how to turn it on/off and how it works? |
| 06:26 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, you do it well, thanks |
| 06:27 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: I didn't do anything on Padre too long. :-) |
| 06:27 |
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Sewi |
It could be turned on in the Preferences and I currently have no idea how it works :-) |
| 06:28 |
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Sewi |
There was a discussion yesterday about renaming "Syntax check" to "Warnings & Errors", this would be the best place, I think, but doing this is too much for me atm. :-( |
| 06:34 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7802 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7802 |
| 06:34 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Arabic translation at 100% again :) |
| 06:34 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
| 06:35 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i wanted to rename it to "Problems" like in Eclipse |
| 06:36 |
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Sewi |
What about "Document problems"? Or some other prefix stating that it concerns the current document and not the editor... |
| 06:36 |
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azawawi |
i was busy yesterday watching Dubai Metro grand opening... |
| 06:37 |
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szabgab |
we have this issue I have no idea how to solve that we both want to use words beginners and people from outside the Perl world understand but that the perl people will not freak out either |
| 06:37 |
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szabgab |
azawawi, I read that :-) |
| 06:38 |
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szabgab |
this comes up with the syntax check/problems/etc name |
| 06:38 |
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szabgab |
it came up yesterday in another place where I am trying to get people to use IRC |
| 06:38 |
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szabgab |
they know what skype is and what a chatroom is but if they read the word IRC they are don't know what that is |
| 06:39 |
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szabgab |
or freak out as that is something old and unixy |
| 06:39 |
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Sewi |
true :( |
| 06:40 |
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szabgab |
and if I say "hacker" they think I really want to break into the nearby bank |
| 06:43 |
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szbalint |
"Hello, I'm from the Internet and I'm here to help you" |
| 06:44 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7803 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7803 |
| 06:44 |
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Hyppolit |
move outline of Padre to main web page |
| 06:44 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/ |
| 06:45 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7804 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7804 |
| 06:45 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Perl tidy |
| 06:45 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
| 06:47 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7805 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7805 |
| 06:47 |
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Hyppolit |
Update messages.pot |
| 06:47 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
| 06:47 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7806 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7806 |
| 06:47 |
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Hyppolit |
German translation to 100% |
| 06:47 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
| 06:52 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: Why do you use tidy so often? It mixes up local working copies :-( |
| 06:53 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7807 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7807 |
| 06:53 |
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Hyppolit |
Make the Perl Beginner checks work (but it still needs to be improved very much!) |
| 06:53 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
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szabgab |
Sewi, I am not sure why $self->{error} = undef; is good? |
| 06:59 |
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Sewi |
$self->{error} = '' (like it was before) triggered an empty warning message box. |
| 07:00 |
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szabgab |
I think I would say delete $self->{error} if I don't want any previous errors to be present |
| 07:00 |
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Sewi |
I don't like the way nearly everything is done there. The best thing would be to include it into the Syntax Check/warnings/problems - tab, but I'm currently too busy :-( |
| 07:01 |
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szabgab |
and in either case I would add a comment to why do we need that assignment |
| 07:01 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, can you open a ticket with the above comment? |
| 07:01 |
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Sewi |
Ok |
| 07:01 |
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szabgab |
ty |
| 07:02 |
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szabgab |
I am trying to get more things documented outside our IRC channel so new people can find thing easier |
| 07:03 |
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Sewi |
What about ticket http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/413 ? Shouldn't it be closed? |
| 07:04 |
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szabgab |
I would leave that open, I am not sure what really to do with that |
| 07:06 |
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Sewi |
I just noticed it while looking for existing tickets which may fit the above problem. |
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azawawi |
Sewi: you can run perl ..\tools\tidy_pm_files.pl on your local copy to fix that... |
| 07:12 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: sorry for any inconvenience |
| 07:16 |
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mikehh |
I built perl 10.1 a couple of days ago and trying to re-install Wx pre-requisite Alien::wxWidgets breaks - anybody had any similar problems |
| 07:17 |
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azawawi |
mikehh: any output/logs? |
| 07:18 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: Appying the patch for 531 changed Makefile.PL to include the new dependency. Shall I also commit this file? |
| 07:18 |
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szabgab |
you mean the Makefile.PL ? yes and update Changes too and include credit to the author |
| 07:18 |
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Sewi |
ok, thanks |
| 07:19 |
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Sewi |
Is there any rule when Changes should be updated? |
| 07:21 |
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mikehh |
mhh mhh-desktop:~/perl5/cpan/Alien-wxWidgets-0.44$ ./Build |
| 07:21 |
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mikehh |
Subroutine version::qv redefined at inc/version.pm line 22. |
| 07:22 |
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azawawi |
mikehh: can u paste output to http://gist.github.com ? |
| 07:22 |
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mikehh |
it failed with cpanp with the same error so I tried to build separately |
| 07:23 |
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azawawi |
mikehh: the best way to handle this is to email Matia on wxperl mailing list |
| 07:24 |
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azawawi |
mikehh: he usually answers within a couple of hours... |
| 07:25 |
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azawawi |
mikehh: but ofcourse search first the mailing list archives for a similar case http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.wxperl.users/ |
| 07:25 |
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azawawi |
mikehh: support link: http://wxperl.sourceforge.net/support.html |
| 07:26 |
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Alias |
<Sewi>There is a new fix for ticket http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/531 which adds a new dependency. Shall it be appliled? |
| 07:26 |
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Sewi |
Hi Alias |
| 07:27 |
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* azawawi |
checks whether Devel::Refactor installs on xp or not |
| 07:27 |
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Alias |
The dependency it adds has 1) A dependency on 5.8 2) No significant CPAN Testers failures 3) No recursive deps |
| 07:27 |
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Alias |
So as far as I'm concerned, it's a low risk addition |
| 07:27 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, AFAIK we don't have a clear set of written rules for the Changes file. yet |
| 07:28 |
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mikehh |
bah - trying to get the output again I managed to install it :-} |
| 07:28 |
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Alias |
The ones that are a problem are where the new dependency adds new entire chains of deps, or where the new dep (or it's deps) don't install reliably |
| 07:28 |
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Alias |
It's especially safe because we don't have to load it in the base compile, so it shouldn't even add weight to most of the threads |
| 07:28 |
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azawawi |
Alias: it installed on xp without installing any prerequisites... |
| 07:28 |
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Alias |
yup |
| 07:28 |
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Alias |
+1 as far as I'm concerned |
| 07:28 |
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Alias |
It's forward progress... |
| 07:28 |
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Alias |
And we can always remove it later if it's a problem |
| 07:29 |
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mikehh |
getting all those architecture dependant modules re-installed is a pain |
| 07:29 |
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szabgab |
mikehh, yeh, we need someone to help packaging Padre for linux |
| 07:30 |
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mikehh |
yeah - let me see iof I can get Wx re-installed now |
| 07:32 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7808 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7808 |
| 07:32 |
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Hyppolit |
Ticket #531: Add a "extract subroutine" function (rhebus++) |
| 07:32 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
| 07:34 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7809 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7809 |
| 07:34 |
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Hyppolit |
Update messages.pot |
| 07:34 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7810 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7810 |
| 07:35 |
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Hyppolit |
German translation at 100% |
| 07:35 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
| 07:38 |
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mikehh |
well i's flashing wgets all over my screen while it tests |
| 07:38 |
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mikehh |
I think in need new batteries in my wireless keyboard |
| 07:45 |
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szabgab |
Wx tests are like fireworks |
| 07:54 |
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Sewi |
Another close-ticket poll: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/67 seems to be superseeded by the current autocomplete function which is a little bit syntax-aware. |
| 07:58 |
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* szabgab |
tries to be silent (aka this page left blank on purpose) |
| 08:00 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7811 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7811 |
| 08:00 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Handle "Open all Recent Files" Padre crash when setup_editor is called with a file that does not exist. |
| 08:00 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 08:03 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7812 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7812 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Updated Changes |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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azawawi |
why do we have autoconverting of EOLs in Padre? |
| 08:11 |
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szabgab |
it is my fault :-) |
| 08:11 |
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azawawi |
im killing it :) |
| 08:11 |
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szabgab |
I think we talked about this a few days ago |
| 08:11 |
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azawawi |
no asking the user... |
| 08:11 |
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azawawi |
just plain and simple |
| 08:11 |
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szabgab |
I thought Alias killed it already |
| 08:12 |
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szabgab |
azawawi, I agree, but it is funny as it has been there for 8 month now I think :-) |
| 08:12 |
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szabgab |
can you please open a ticket with it and then close it once done? |
| 08:13 |
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azawawi |
sure |
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azawawi |
szabgab: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/536 |
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* azawawi |
fixes it now |
| 08:19 |
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szabgab |
looking at http://ppm4.activestate.com/MS[…]090902T173956.txt |
| 08:20 |
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szabgab |
I see the first problem is that Activestate cannot build Wx and I don't see Alien::wxWidgets at all |
| 08:21 |
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szabgab |
'xspp' is not recognized as an internal or external command, |
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azawawi |
aha... |
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azawawi |
ExtUtils::XSpp is not installed |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7813 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7813 |
| 08:31 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Fixed ticket:536 "Padre auto converts EOLs automatically" |
| 08:31 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] So no more EOL auto conversion... :) |
| 08:31 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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szabgab |
JRWeiss, good morning (ish), I have applied your change, thank you |
| 08:35 |
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Sewi |
gm rhebus |
| 08:35 |
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JRWeiss |
szabgab, Yes I saw the notice from padre and I tested out last night |
| 08:36 |
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JRWeiss |
I tested on a number of broswers and it looks OK to me |
| 08:36 |
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rhebus |
morning sewi |
| 08:40 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7814 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7814 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Updated Changes |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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rhebus |
Sewi: thanks for folding in my patch. I've got a couple of minor updates it needs |
| 08:42 |
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Sewi |
rhebus: I wrote a comment in the ticket... |
| 08:42 |
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szabgab |
JRWeiss, do you remember if abrutel is modiintech ? |
| 08:42 |
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rhebus |
lines 106 and 107 should be swapped "Wx::gettext("New Subroutine Name")," and "Wx::gettext("Please enter a name for the new subroutine")," |
| 08:42 |
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rhebus |
Sewi: yeah I saw that comment, that's a bigger issue, not a one-liner :( |
| 08:43 |
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JRWeiss |
szabgab, I don't remember exactly but I do not think he is |
| 08:44 |
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JRWeiss |
do you have a log of the conversation from last week? I think you recommended to modiinTech that he change his nick and he did |
| 08:45 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7815 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7815 |
| 08:45 |
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Hyppolit |
Text correction |
| 08:45 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
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Sewi |
rhebus: done |
| 08:45 |
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szabgab |
oh, yes, I asked modiintech and he said he is Avrham ;-) |
| 08:50 |
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Alias |
azawawi++ # Killing auto-convert |
| 08:50 |
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Alias |
I've been getting complaints from my team here that I'm corrupting their svn repository |
| 08:53 |
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azawawi |
anyone using ctrl-shift-l to delete current line? |
| 08:53 |
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azawawi |
ctrl-shift-L |
| 08:53 |
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Sewi |
yes, quite often |
| 08:54 |
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azawawi |
how about using ctrl-d ? |
| 08:54 |
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rhebus |
can someone explain this karma thing to me? |
| 08:54 |
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azawawi |
rhebus++ |
| 08:54 |
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azawawi |
karma rhebus |
| 08:54 |
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Hyppolit |
Karma of rhebus is 1 |
| 08:54 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: this is "double line" |
| 08:54 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: yeah on eclipse, it is delete line and textmate seems to be the same |
| 08:55 |
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rhebus |
karma azawawi |
| 08:55 |
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Hyppolit |
Karma of azawawi is 1110 |
| 08:55 |
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rhebus |
am I worth 0.1% of you then? :) |
| 08:55 |
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szabgab |
rhebus, you just multiplied by your karma by an infinite number |
| 08:56 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: This is part of the key binding issue which must be solved globally |
| 08:56 |
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rhebus |
heh |
| 08:56 |
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szabgab |
(remove the first by) |
| 08:56 |
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szabgab |
rhebus, Hyppolit is just counting how many times rhebus++ is added to a name |
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azawawi |
Sewi: key bindings in preferences then... |
| 08:57 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: and actions |
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rhebus |
hmm I've seen it twice so far, it's not very good at counting |
| 08:57 |
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szabgab |
it counts the commits and when we appreciate each others work |
| 08:57 |
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szabgab |
Hyppolit has its own problems in life, I guess |
| 08:57 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: Ctrl-L also copies the current line (line Ctrl-X). I tried to make him not copy an empty line when removing it but didn't find a way to do it. |
| 08:58 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: http://www.yellowbrain.com/stc/keymap.html |
| 08:58 |
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szabgab |
rhebus, other than that it has no real meaning |
| 08:58 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: But when overriding the function, I'ld have to rebuild what it currently does. This was my problem :-) |
| 08:59 |
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rhebus |
szabgab: thanks for explaining :) |
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azawawi |
Sewi: ah the Padre-ConfigKeys something branch |
| 08:59 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: i totally forgot about that |
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szabgab |
rhebus, see: |
| 08:59 |
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szabgab |
karma notepad |
| 08:59 |
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Hyppolit |
Karma of notepad is 17 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: any chance we could merge that with what we have? |
| 09:01 |
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rhebus |
hehe |
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rhebus |
coffee++ |
| 09:01 |
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rhebus |
karma coffee |
| 09:01 |
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Hyppolit |
Karma of coffee is 1 |
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azawawi |
coffee-- |
| 09:01 |
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azawawi |
karma coffee |
| 09:01 |
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Hyppolit |
Karma of coffee is 0 |
| 09:01 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: I did this before learning about the Actions thing. Maybe, I should throw it away. |
| 09:01 |
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azawawi |
coffee-- |
| 09:01 |
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azawawi |
karma coffee |
| 09:01 |
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Hyppolit |
Karma of coffee is -1 |
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rhebus |
coffee+=1000 |
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rhebus |
karma coffee |
| 09:01 |
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Hyppolit |
Karma of coffee is -1 |
| 09:02 |
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rhebus |
I'll stop now |
| 09:03 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: you created some UI right? |
| 09:04 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: and that's what we should keep... The rest is plumbing... |
| 09:04 |
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Sewi |
I tried, but I'm really a Wx noop. All of my UIs until now were created using Visual Basic or HTML :-) |
| 09:04 |
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Sewi |
I think, I should get through the Wx samples to learn something about this topic... |
| 09:04 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: no problem just start it and i'll help out :) |
| 09:06 |
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Sewi |
thx |
| 09:06 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, and you could also write a few more wx examples and add them to our directory! |
| 09:07 |
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Sewi |
I think that my example would be bad examples atm :-) |
| 09:07 |
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szabgab |
IMHO that's the best way to learn |
| 09:07 |
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szabgab |
and we will help you |
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* Sewi |
is currently busy with another challenge created by szabgab :-) |
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azawawi |
the important thing is to start an effort to do one thing... perfection is not needed there... |
| 09:09 |
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Alias |
(As long as it's NEW work) |
| 09:09 |
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azawawi |
Alias: :) |
| 09:09 |
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szabgab |
"We don't built a perfect editor. we just build the best one" |
| 09:09 |
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Sewi |
very good message! |
| 09:09 |
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Alias |
Attempts to speculatively half-way do refactor of existing code without a clear reason to replace has been problematic |
| 09:09 |
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azawawi |
Alias: but shooting for perfection for the first time = missing deadlines :) |
| 09:10 |
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Alias |
But I've seen no significant problems with even the newbiest implementations when attempt new concepts and new features |
| 09:10 |
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Alias |
azawawi: Anything is better than nothing the first time |
| 09:10 |
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Alias |
Perfection is preferred when refactoring |
| 09:10 |
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rhebus |
Alias++ |
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Alias |
When HEAVY refactoring at least |
| 09:11 |
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Alias |
Light cleanups etc no big deal as long as they are a bit better |
| 09:11 |
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rhebus |
which is why I'm currently focusing on implementing refactoring features :) |
| 09:11 |
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Alias |
:) |
| 09:11 |
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Alias |
Yay |
| 09:11 |
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Alias |
We've always been a little weak on those |
| 09:11 |
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Alias |
Nobody wants to do the hard work :) |
| 09:11 |
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azawawi |
yeah even in Perl 6... |
| 09:11 |
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azawawi |
im lazy :) |
| 09:11 |
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Alias |
Probably mostly because PPI is thorough but a bit hard to code against |
| 09:12 |
|
Alias |
Or at the very least, verbose to code again |
| 09:12 |
|
Alias |
against |
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azawawi |
PPI would benefit a lot if married with jQuery-like selectors... |
| 09:13 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7816 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7816 |
| 09:13 |
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Hyppolit |
add IRC channel and mailing list info to contact page as well |
| 09:13 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/ |
| 09:13 |
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rhebus |
I've just been finding existing code which does what we want and plumbing it in |
| 09:15 |
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azawawi |
Alias: btw how can one get a commit bit to svn.ali.as ? talk to AdamK? :) |
| 09:16 |
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rhebus |
argh, I've been having a frequent problem while hacking on padre: I see a method call like $self->MyMethodName and I don't know how to find that method's definition or documentation |
| 09:16 |
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rhebus |
beside using a grep, which doesn't help when it's from a library |
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rhebus |
currently I'm looking for a GetStatusBar method, but I can't tell what package it's in :/ |
| 09:16 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: There is still one thing left before we get him on Padre: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]+Kennedy+on+Padre :-) |
| 09:17 |
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Sewi |
rhebus: Try Ctrl+left-mouse-click on the word. |
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Sewi |
And there is a "find in files" option in the Search menu |
| 09:17 |
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rhebus |
currently editing in vim :P |
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rhebus |
what is ctrl-left mouse supposed to do? |
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azawawi |
rhebus: http://www.yellowbrain.com/stc/keymap.html ? |
| 09:19 |
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rhebus |
aah found it, it's inherited from wxFrame |
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rhebus |
azawawi: not listed there |
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rhebus |
that's just keyboard-only shortcuts |
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azawawi |
rhebus: then ignore me :) |
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Sewi |
rhebus: It scans for the definition of what you're clicking. |
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azawawi |
szabgab: what's error list for ? |
| 09:26 |
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rhebus |
listing errors, I'd guess |
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rhebus |
:P |
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Alias |
Added new user azawawicpan.org |
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szabgab |
azawawi, when you run a script it collects the STDERR and displays it there too |
| 09:29 |
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szabgab |
at least when using the output window and not the external window |
| 09:29 |
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Alias |
rhebus: The convention is that lowercase methods are implemented in Perl (and mostly our code) and uppercase methods come from the Wx C bindings |
| 09:30 |
|
Alias |
Helps keep the "stuff you can read through our code to learn about" separate from the "stuff you'll need to trawl through the C docs for wxWidgets for" |
| 09:30 |
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Alias |
So basically, in package Foo with $self->GetStatusBar, you look at the Wx::ClassName that the package inherits from |
| 09:30 |
|
Alias |
Then you go look up the package wxClassName in the C documentation |
| 09:31 |
|
Alias |
And it should have a GetStatusBar listed in that class |
| 09:31 |
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rhebus |
Alias: thanks a lot, that's clearer |
| 09:32 |
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* Alias |
has been meaning to do some screencasts for this stuff |
| 09:34 |
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azawawi |
Alias: thanks :) |
| 09:34 |
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* azawawi |
enters the matrix :) |
| 09:34 |
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Alias |
Beware that first checkout :) |
| 09:34 |
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Alias |
It's a doozy |
| 09:35 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7817 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7817 |
| 09:35 |
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Hyppolit |
Perl tidy |
| 09:35 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ |
| 09:35 |
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Alias |
(Trunk's not TOO bad, but root is pretty insane) |
| 09:35 |
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* Alias |
checks size |
| 09:36 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7818 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7818 |
| 09:36 |
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Hyppolit |
Adding some beginner error checks (ticket #52 and other sources) |
| 09:36 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ |
| 09:37 |
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azawawi |
beginner error checks can also become quick fixes... |
| 09:37 |
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Sewi |
yes, many of them |
| 09:38 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7819 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7819 |
| 09:38 |
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Hyppolit |
Adding some tests for beginner error checks |
| 09:38 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/t/ |
| 09:38 |
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Sewi |
It has been _long_ time ago since I did so many errors in a dozen lines :-) |
| 09:38 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: im clicking on it but nothing... |
| 09:39 |
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Sewi |
The menu option? If nothing happens, everything is fine. Do you think we should add a "everything fine" message? |
| 09:39 |
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azawawi |
ah... sorry. i didnt svn up |
| 09:40 |
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azawawi |
yeah and add a shortcut to it... |
| 09:40 |
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azawawi |
or make a check menu item... and do it on every syntax check ... |
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rhebus |
i remember most of the things in the first checkout being .jpg and .svg files |
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Sewi |
azawawi: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/534 :-) |
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azawawi |
hehe |
| 09:44 |
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azawawi |
& |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7820 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7820 |
| 10:17 |
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Hyppolit |
some improvement to the getting invloved page |
| 10:17 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/ |
| 10:19 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7821 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7821 |
| 10:19 |
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Hyppolit |
fix typo and links |
| 10:19 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/lib/ trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7822 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7822 |
| 10:25 |
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Hyppolit |
link to blog about packaging padre for linux and OSX |
| 10:25 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
| 10:26 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7823 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7823 |
| 10:26 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Fixed typo in month name :) |
| 10:26 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
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rhebus |
patch submitted for #205, anyone around to commit? |
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Sewi |
I'll take a look at it, rhebus |
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szabgab |
meironc, I saw you managed to install Padre in the end |
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kthakore |
jq: can you tell me where the mandriva page of SDL perl is ? |
| 11:19 |
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kthakore |
jq: want to absorb some patches like I am doing from debain |
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rhebus |
Sewi: thanks, it's just a two-liner |
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rhebus |
I've done make test |
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szabgab |
rhebus, unfortunatelly the test suit of padre is very minimal |
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meironc |
szabgab yes I did. I in stalled the padre with my antivirus off, rebutted, turned off all my anti virus software from windows security manager only then I ran the update and it worked. |
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szabgab |
strange, but at least good to know, maybe - for the sake of documentation - you could open a ticket and explain what happen, what was the likely reason and how you solved it |
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szabgab |
the ticket can be then closed but at least we will have a point of easier reference when next one someone has similar problem |
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szabgab |
meironc, see above |
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Sewi |
szabgab: I experienced all sorts of unexpected things with bad antivirus software under Windows. |
| 11:30 |
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Sewi |
One AV suite even froze my program under windows with 100% CPU load. :-( |
| 11:31 |
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szabgab |
elminating viruses by starving them? |
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Sewi |
Seems so. |
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Sewi |
But it was a heavy priced commercial product. I guess this is more imporatant than making a working product :) |
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Sewi |
AV problems are common, also with Perl: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=792181 |
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meironc |
I have tried to open a ticket but it keeps saying I have to log on. how do I log on? |
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rhebus |
szabgab: is there a ticket open about the test suite? |
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meironc |
no |
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szabgab |
rhebus, I think the first one ;-) |
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rhebus |
mind you it should probably be several tickets |
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szabgab |
meironc, which page ? does it say how do you register? |
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meironc |
In order to register please first talk to us on IRC. |
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szabgab |
good :-) |
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szabgab |
so I am opening the registration page for you as none of the other admins seem to be around |
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szabgab |
meironc, go ahead , register |
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szabgab |
on http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register |
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meironc |
I have go in thank you |
| 11:44 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7824 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7824 |
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Hyppolit |
Fix for ticket #205: reset output background |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7825 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7825 |
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Hyppolit |
link to contact page |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/ |
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meironc |
szabgab please could you see if I need to add something extra to the ticket Ticket #545 |
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szabgab |
meironc, I would add the name of antivirus and maybe explain that c:\strawberry\perl\bin\perl.exe ran and waited for input while c:\strawberry\perl\bin\perl.exe -v told you it could not be found (and btw the word is rebooted not rebutted) |
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szabgab |
meironc, thank you |
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meironc |
szabgab with pleasure, anything to help others |
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jq |
kthakore: http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bi[…]perl-SDL/current/ |
| 12:30 |
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meironc |
Does anybody know if there is a command for clear screen? |
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Sewi |
where? in Perl? |
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meironc |
yes in Perl |
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Sewi |
I guess "system 'clear';" is the easiest, otherwise you'll need to write an ANSI-sequence or use a Module. |
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jq |
meironc: Term::Screen is your friend |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7826 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7826 |
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Hyppolit |
Screenshots as requested by ticket #539 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7827 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7827 |
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Hyppolit |
Scaled screenshot for better page layout. |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/ |
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azawawi |
szabgab: damn avira anti virus. im glad it is solved :) |
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szabgab |
me2 |
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szabgab |
azawawi, how far are we from giving explanations on what $. is ? |
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szabgab |
or $_ ? |
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azawawi |
they should be there |
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azawawi |
$. does not work since it is selected by default |
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szabgab |
I don't understand that |
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azawawi |
they're using perldoc -v variable |
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azawawi |
$_ works when selected with F2 |
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azawawi |
$. is not selected |
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szabgab |
my perldoc -v '$_' does not find it |
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szabgab |
nor is my F2 |
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azawawi |
really? |
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azawawi |
it works on win32 |
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azawawi |
perldoc -v $_ |
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szabgab |
nope |
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azawawi |
perldoc -v "$_" maybe? |
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szabgab |
nope |
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azawawi |
it is documented... |
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szabgab |
and not with single quote either |
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azawawi |
perldoc -v \$_ ? :) |
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szabgab |
-v Describes search for the item in detail (verbosely). |
| 14:59 |
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szabgab |
where is it documented? |
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azawawi |
ah wait... |
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azawawi |
strange case http://gist.github.com/184592 |
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* azawawi |
investigates |
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azawawi |
szabgab: take a look http://gist.github.com/184593 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: btw, perldoc -f print works? |
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azawawi |
szabgab: maybe you forgot to install perl docs on ubuntu? |
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szabgab |
sure |
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szabgab |
perldoc -f print works |
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azawawi |
perldoc -v $ARG ? |
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szabgab |
perldoc -V |
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szabgab |
Perldoc v3.14_02, under perl v5.010000 for linux |
| 15:04 |
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szabgab |
perldoc perldoc tells me -v is verbose mode |
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azawawi |
Perldoc v3.15, under perl v5.010000 for MSWin32 :) |
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azawawi |
take a look at how old your version is http://search.cpan.org/~ferrei[…]Pod-Perldoc-3.15/ :) |
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azawawi |
require newer Pod-Perldoc in Padre? |
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azawawi |
you installed via aptitude ? |
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azawawi |
s/installed/installed it/ |
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azawawi |
Alias++ for make strawberry up2date |
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azawawi |
perldoc -v PerlVar was added in 2008-05-02 (3.14_06) |
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szabgab |
azawawi, we need 3.15 |
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azawawi |
require it in Makefile.PL? |
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szabgab |
after upgrading it started to work |
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szabgab |
yes, and close the ticket |
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azawawi |
which ticket? |
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azawawi |
im low on sugar... 40 min to go :) |
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szabgab |
don't worry I'll do it |
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szabgab |
I would not be able to be 40 min without eating |
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szabgab |
total |
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szabgab |
lucky we don't do it for a month :-) |
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azawawi |
yeah 4 days |
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azawawi |
szabgab: which ticket again? |
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azawawi |
http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/547 right? |
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szabgab |
don't worry, I am now bragging on the beginner list |
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szabgab |
yes |
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CSJewell |
OK. Embargo can end in 2 minutes, if it hasn't already (Honolulu passes 5:22am - I don't think there's much west of there and east of the date line to worry about.) |
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szabgab |
azawawi, are you fixing then or shall I ? |
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azawawi |
im fixing |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7828 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7828 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Adding a Pod::Perldoc 0.35 dependency since we need perldoc -v perlvar |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] This closes ticket:547 "(context sensitive help for perl 5 - "what is $. ?" No help found)" |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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azawawi |
mental note: i should test features also on linux |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7829 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7829 |
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Hyppolit |
update changes |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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azawawi |
szabgab: how did a development release of Pod::Perldoc enter perl? ubuntu's downstream packagers? |
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azawawi |
i think 0.46 is pretty solid now |
| 15:28 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7830 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7830 |
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Hyppolit |
update version number of Pod::Perldoc |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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azawawi |
oops |
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azawawi |
:) |
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szabgab |
azawawi, maybe I installed it from CPAN I don't know |
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szabgab |
you are way low on sugar ;-) |
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azawawi |
very low |
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szabgab |
go read something instead of writing |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: where is that game you promised us? :) |
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CSJewell |
what game? I don't remember promising a game! |
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azawawi |
strawberry standalone |
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azawawi |
i heard it had SDL preinstalled |
| 15:33 |
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CSJewell |
Nonono, people were asking for it. Alias said it's a little too unstable yet to go in and I agree with him in that regard. |
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azawawi |
im kidding ofcourse :) |
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CSJewell |
Sorry. It's hard for me to tell that people are kidding IRL, much less in text. |
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azawawi |
oh well |
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azawawi |
i tried SDL and it aint stable at all |
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azawawi |
Alien::SDL didnt install |
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azawawi |
but im sure they'll iron out all these problems by october... |
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CSJewell |
https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Dis[…]=49282#txn-658002 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: did u ever try the flip flop .. operator in scalar context? |
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CSJewell |
Which means it may get in January... because we really do have to have a month beta test. Which reminds me, I should probably get off IRC and get to work on it. |
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azawawi |
im off fri and sat |
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azawawi |
so i may hack a bit on help topics |
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azawawi |
categorization... |
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szabgab |
azawawi, if ($x =~ /ww/ .. bb/) { |
| 15:39 |
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szabgab |
but I keep forgeting the syntax |
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azawawi |
yeah but it is pretty cool |
| 15:40 |
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szabgab |
oh sure it is |
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azawawi |
cowens from perlopref.pod was asking if the name was cool or not |
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azawawi |
the good news is rakudo seattle will be far easier to build on win32 than before |
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azawawi |
i found a couple of bugs there and it is now solved... |
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azawawi |
szabgab: you could help out cowens on perlopref.pod by forking and pushing changes to him (http://github.com/cowens/perlopref/tree/master) |
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azawawi |
Alias: what do u think a better name for perl operator reference would be? |
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azawawi |
Alias: i know you certainly dont like perlopref.pod |
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szabgab |
azawawi, is he on IRC ? |
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azawawi |
who? |
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azawawi |
cowens nop |
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azawawi |
he seems to be a vim user |
| 15:49 |
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szabgab |
he can still be on irc :-) |
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azawawi |
i told him that Padre has perlopref integrated in help search by email... |
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szabgab |
yes, he just mailed me |
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* azawawi |
looks around suspiciously |
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szabgab |
as a reply to my post on the beginner list |
| 15:50 |
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szabgab |
but is his doc already integrated into padre? |
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azawawi |
yup |
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azawawi |
perlopref.pod :) |
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szabgab |
I don't get documentation on = |
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azawawi |
X and Y |
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szabgab |
or => |
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azawawi |
first one |
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azawawi |
!X |
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szabgab |
nor on || |
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azawawi |
X++ |
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szabgab |
unless I highlight it |
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azawawi |
X + Y |
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azawawi |
yeah |
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azawawi |
it is first step :) |
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azawawi |
ticket me plz... |
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szabgab |
so is the help on || coming from his docs? |
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szabgab |
you will get tons of tickets soon |
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szabgab |
don't worry, I am now the ticket master |
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azawawi |
yup |
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azawawi |
when you see X |
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azawawi |
or X something Y |
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azawawi |
that's perlopref |
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azawawi |
iftar & :) |
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szabgab |
bbl& |
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g0bl1n |
hi, is Padre usable in Ruby ? Syntax highl., etc ? |
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Sewi |
usable: yes, like any text editor :-) Syntax highlighting,etc: not afaik. |
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Sewi |
This module may be helpful: http://search.cpan.org/~szabga[…]/Plugin/Parrot.pm |
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g0bl1n |
Sewi, ty |
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PerlJam |
View -> View Document As -> Ruby |
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Alias |
g0bl1n: Padre is designed to support non-Perl languages as secondary languages |
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PerlJam |
I don't have any ruby code handy, but it seems to highlight things |
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Alias |
g0bl1n: So we provide the bits that more or less come bundled with Scintilla, but not much more. Although someone could, if they wanted, write a plugin to add additional features for a specific language |
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Alias |
Pluggable document model objects, etc |
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g0bl1n |
is there anyone packaging it for say, Debian ? Ubuntu ? |
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g0bl1n |
Padre i mean |
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El_Che |
yes |
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El_Che |
it will be on ubuntu 9.10 |
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bricas |
g0bl1n: the debian-perl team is doing it for Debian (natch) -- ubuntu will naturally mirror upstream over time. |
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bricas |
El_Che: oh, is someone doing it directly for ubuntu? |
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g0bl1n |
sweet |
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El_Che |
bricas: the same people, but I though szabgab got confirmation for ubuntu |
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El_Che |
I am subscribed to the "bug" |
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El_Che |
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin[…]rt.cgi?bug=492696 - https://launchpad.net/padre |
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bricas |
yeah, i see now. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/padre |
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szabgab |
g0bl1n, I think there is a syntax highligher for Ruby |
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szabgab |
and I hope we will be able to integrate syntax highlighting based on Cardinal |
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szabgab |
g0bl1n, actually now that I checked it I see I have already integrated it once but later I could not build Cardinal so I am not sure what is the status now |
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* szabgab |
is now reading what was the question |
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g0bl1n |
szabgab, :) |
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szabgab |
we have at least on small ruby example in our repo |
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szabgab |
g0bl1n, are you familiar with Cardinal? |
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g0bl1n |
szabgab, no |
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szabgab |
it is a Ruby implementation over the Parrot virual machine |
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g0bl1n |
szabgab, wait, seem to have read something about |
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g0bl1n |
and you have syn.high. for Cardinal ? |
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szabgab |
if we manage to compile it again -and I guess it was just out of swing when I tried last time - then we can use its parstree for highlighting ruby |
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szabgab |
sorry, what is syn.high ? |
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g0bl1n |
syntax highlight sorry |
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szabgab |
we can use Cardinal for syhi |
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szabgab |
;-) |
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g0bl1n |
:) |
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szabgab |
so it is not perfect Ruby, |
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szabgab |
it is up to the level of readyness of Cardinal |
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szabgab |
See the Parrot plugin of Padre for more info |
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g0bl1n |
I will, I'm building Padre on this Ubuntu |
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szabgab |
and how did you get to Padre anyway if you are interested in Ruby? |
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* g0bl1n |
likes testing IDE's (coming from Vim). This looks fine, simple, clean |
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szabgab |
I hope soon we will be able to extend padre using ruby |
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PerlJam |
g0bl1n: It's quite good. I've tried it a couple of times over the last year and last week I started using it full time (I've used vi and its clones almost exclusively since 1992) |
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g0bl1n |
ty |
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El_Che |
szabgab: let us first conquer the perl world before we conquer the universe :) |
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g0bl1n |
:) |
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g0bl1n |
El_Che, with Padre (priest in portuguese) you mean evangelize the perl world :) |
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El_Che |
padre os camelhos :) |
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PerlJam |
El_Che: why so limit yourself though? padre -- *Programmer's* application development and refactoring environment sounds great to me :) |
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El_Che |
ahaha |
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El_Che |
that's great indeed |
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El_Che |
"Padre application development and refactoring environment" is the next logical step |
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g0bl1n |
:) |
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szabgab |
g0bl1n, #cardinal is on this server if you want to talk to them |
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still.... Cpan doing Padre :) takes tiiiiimeeee... :) |
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Padre::Pod2HTML either has a bug or is exposing a bug in Pod::Simple::XHTML, L<> gets printed twice |
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I think the problem is with the overriding of emit |
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"cowens" at 66.170.97.139 pasted "simple test case to reproduce Padre::Pod2HTML error" (13 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/33713 |
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cowens: confirmed |
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nuts |
