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03:36 ppant Hello Good Morning
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04:06 submersible braaaaaains
04:06 submersible hi folks
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05:02 Topic for #padreis now Latest Padre is 0.46, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001
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05:44 Sewi gm
05:45 szabgab gm
05:47 jq hi
05:54 Hyppolit svn: r7890 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7890
05:54 Hyppolit blog by Damien Learns Perl
05:54 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
05:56 CSJewell szabgab: The URL for the release notes needs to be version-specific, for one.  Look at http://strawberryperl.com/r​elease-notes/5.10.0.6.html, http://strawberryperl.com/​release-notes/5.8.9.2.html, and http://strawberryperl.com/rel​ease-notes/5.10.1.0.beta.html for what I did for Strawberry.
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05:57 szabgab You can create separate pages for each one of the releases or you can use the anchors
05:58 szabgab http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadreStandalone#a2009October
05:58 szabgab which does not make much difference now as the page is still less than 1 screen
06:05 CSJewell Considering we plan a monthly release schedule, I'd like to do a combination of the two and do like  http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadreStandalone_2009#aOctober
06:06 szabgab go ahead do that , I think I would still keep the PadreStandalone page pointing from it to each annual page
06:07 CSJewell OK. I'll fix it up tomorrow morning.
06:08 CSJewell (or should I say, this morning now...)
06:08 szabgab don't worry about it too much, we can always rearrange things
06:08 szabgab and leave links to point to the new locations
06:09 szabgab and I am going to announce the Stand Alone package as I think it have not been announced yet
06:10 CSJewell Not that I know of.
06:11 CSJewell & # Heading to bed.
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06:14 rindolf Hi all.
06:15 szabgab hi rindolf
06:16 szabgab rindolf,  no announcement of 0.45 on freshmeat?
06:16 rindolf szabgab: not yet, sorry.
06:16 rindolf I'll tend to it now.
06:18 rindolf I also would like to announce the Hamakor prize winners on Whatsup.
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06:18 azawawi good morning
06:20 szabgab rindolf, are you the official PR person of HaMakor?
06:20 szabgab azawawi, gm
06:20 rindolf szabgab: no, I'm not.
06:20 rindolf szabgab: not sure if we have an official PR person.
06:33 Sewi szabgab: Where do you want the German install howto?
06:34 rindolf szabgab: done.
06:34 szabgab I don't know, maybe we call the page german.html ? or deutsch.html on the padre web site?
06:35 szabgab once we have a better idea we can rename it and I can setup an apache redirection
06:36 szabgab CSJewell, if you are still around, I think the best option might be to have the planned version on a central page so the list of tickets can be easily viewed
06:37 szabgab and then once release move them to the individual or annual pages
06:38 rindolf szabgab: shouldn't it be /lang/de/ or something?
06:39 szabgab rindolf, at one point maybe but I don't want to overplan it
06:39 szabgab yet
06:39 rindolf szabgab: ah.
06:45 azawawi szabgab: i noticed that in the about box we have the following text: "Splash image courtesy XYZ
06:45 azawawi "
06:46 szabgab yes, I have forgotten to open a ticket
06:46 azawawi szabgab: do we have a name other than "Miss B" or "Miss black butterfly" ?
06:47 szabgab Jerry Charlotte
06:47 szabgab and I am sending her another mail asking for permission
06:47 szabgab or we will have to replace it
06:48 szabgab mail sent to her again
06:49 azawawi szabgab: so shall i put her name meanwhile there?
06:49 szabgab yes I think
06:50 rindolf szabgab: I should note that she should release the image under a free-as-in-speech licence.
06:50 rindolf Or else, Debian will have to remove it.
06:50 szabgab we know that
06:51 szabgab that's the reason I am contacting her
06:51 rindolf szabgab: ah.
06:52 Hyppolit svn: r7891 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7891
06:52 Hyppolit [Padre] Fixed the splash XYZ courtesy...
06:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
06:56 Hyppolit svn: r7892 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7892
06:56 Hyppolit [Padre] Updated Changes
06:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
07:16 szabgab Alias, is this still the case: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/370 ?
07:18 szabgab Alias, and this  http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/371 ?
07:40 Hyppolit svn: r7893 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7893
07:40 Hyppolit announcing Padre standalone
07:40 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
07:51 azawawi does anyone find Padre's splash to be too slow?
08:02 rindolf azawawi: I think I noticed it here on Mandriva Cooker.
08:03 azawawi rindolf: fixing :)
08:04 rindolf azawawi: OK.
08:24 azawawi Alias: ping
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08:30 abraxxa any idea why i can't start padre from a gnome launcher but without a problem for a terminal window?
08:30 szabgab abraxxa,  do you have local::lib or PERL5LIB configured?
08:31 abraxxa yes i do
08:31 abraxxa local::lib
08:31 szabgab so it is is not seen from the gnome launcher
08:31 abraxxa i've tried a bash script which then starts padre also without success
08:32 abraxxa the 'application in terminal' setting for the launcher also didn't make a difference
08:32 szabgab I have a small bash script for this:
08:32 szabgab source /home/gabor/bin/bashrc > /tmp/out 2> /tmp/err
08:32 szabgab perl /home/gabor/work/padre/trunk/Padre/dev.pl -a >/tmp/padre_out 2>/tmp/padre_err
08:33 szabgab and I have my private bash things in ~/bin/bashrc
08:33 szabgab those redirections can help you find out what might have gone wrong
08:34 abraxxa thanks
08:35 szabgab abraxxa, did it work?
08:35 abraxxa yes
08:35 abraxxa Can't locate File/Which.pm in @INC
08:36 abraxxa @INC doesn't contain the dirs local::lib shoud add
08:36 szabgab try running perl -V instead of padre
08:36 szabgab oh that's it
08:39 abraxxa if i add the line
08:39 abraxxa eval $(perl -I$HOME/perl5/lib/perl5 -Mlocal::lib)
08:39 abraxxa to my ~/padre.sh it works
08:39 abraxxa but doesn't if i do the source .bashrc thing
08:44 abraxxa szabgab: i'll just keep that bash script for launching padre, thanks for your help!
08:44 szabgab abraxxa, could you write it up and add a howto for this?
08:44 szabgab to our wiki http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Howto ?
08:49 abraxxa in which article?
08:50 Hyppolit svn: r7894 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7894
08:50 Hyppolit [Padre] Fixed "Useless use of a constant in void context" '42;' was being used instead of '1;' at the end
08:50 Hyppolit [Padre] maybe '42;' is the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything :)
08:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
08:52 szabgab abraxxa, just add a new "How to run Padre from the Gnome launcher"
08:52 abraxxa do i have to login to be able to edit it?
08:52 szabgab yes
08:52 abraxxa i have no user
08:52 abraxxa i'll nopaste it, can you add it?
08:53 * szabgab opening registration
08:53 szabgab you can register now
08:53 szabgab and edit yourself
08:53 szabgab this is the way we lure people into developing Padre :-)
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09:00 szabgab abraxxa, managed to register?
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09:17 azawawi szabgab: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/578
09:18 szabgab azawawi, interesting bug :-)
09:20 Hyppolit svn: r7895 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7895
09:20 Hyppolit [Padre] Fixed ticket:578 "Padre's Splash screen should not get in the way"
09:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
09:23 Hyppolit svn: r7896 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7896
09:23 Hyppolit [Padre] Updated Changes
09:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
09:25 azawawi szabgab: could you test it on linux for any side effects?
09:28 szabgab updated and opened padre again, so far it is ok
09:35 azawawi szabgab: question, when you select a couple of lines to toggle comment, is the last line commented?
09:35 azawawi szabgab: in linux that is...
09:35 szabgab yes, it is a stupid bug
09:36 azawawi yeah i hate it
09:36 azawawi fixing ... :)
09:36 CSJewell (reading backlog now that I'm awake for a few mins) That sounds good...
09:37 azawawi szabgab: any associated ticket?
09:37 szabgab I am not sure there is one
09:42 * azawawi creates a ticket
10:01 rindolf szabgab: http://www.shlomifish.org/​hamakor-prize-winners.html
10:03 szabgab שוחרי ?
10:03 szabgab משתמשי
10:04 azawawi congratz? i read the google translation
10:05 szabgab rindolf, and could you also add a link to www.pti.co.il and mention that I am offering trainings in Perl ?
10:05 rindolf szabgab: sure.
10:05 szabgab and I think an English version would be also good
10:05 szabgab and thanks
10:05 rindolf szabgab: yes, I'll work on it next.
10:05 szabgab though I really think HaMakor should do something more serious PR
10:06 rindolf szabgab: I prefer מחרחרי הפרל
10:06 rindolf ;-)
10:06 szabgab :-)
10:06 szabgab e.g. add to the announcement  what is the price for, what is HaMakor for
10:06 szabgab and to whom to contact with questions
10:07 szabgab and then send it out to the journalists of Ynet, Ntg, HaAaretz etc
10:07 szabgab I mean Nrg
10:10 rindolf szabgab: OK, you're right.
10:15 rindolf szabgab: http://www.pti.co.il/he_about.html - "גאבור החל להישתמש בפרל ב-1995 ביותו אחראי" ==> "ביותו" is wrong.
10:19 szabgab ty
10:19 szabgab hey is missing I think
10:38 Hyppolit svn: r7897 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7897
10:38 Hyppolit [Padre] Fixed ticket:579 "Commenting/uncommenting comments the last unselected line"
10:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
10:38 rindolf Yes.
10:42 Hyppolit svn: r7898 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7898
10:42 Hyppolit [Padre] Updated Changes
10:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
10:44 szabgab azawawi is cheating, for every change he makes two commit :-)
10:44 azawawi szabgab: hehe :)
10:45 Hyppolit svn: r7899 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7899
10:45 Hyppolit [Padre] The daily cheating Perl tidy... :)
10:45 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
10:45 azawawi now that's cheating :)
10:46 abraxxa szabgab: i can't find the register link
10:46 szabgab http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register
10:47 abraxxa szabgab: weird, the link isn't shown on the wiki page
10:47 szabgab no it is not
10:47 szabgab as we need to keep it closed
10:48 szabgab and when it is closed it shows a stupid error message
10:48 szabgab instead of saying that it is not enabled
10:48 abraxxa i c
10:48 abraxxa i didn't receive the enable mail
10:48 abraxxa and logging in seems to do nothing
10:49 szabgab it does not say "logged in XXXX" ?
10:49 abraxxa not always
10:50 abraxxa seems to be a caching problem
10:50 szabgab later & # lunch
10:51 abraxxa i add it to the link section
10:51 Hyppolit svn: r7900 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7900
10:51 Hyppolit [Padre] Updated Arabic translation to 100%
10:51 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/share/locale/
10:51 azawawi damn that was [catalyst's...]
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10:59 * submersible1 thwacks the pretender zombie submersible
11:00 submersible1 internet _finally_ connected @ home
11:03 abraxxa szabgab: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wik​i/Howto?action=diff&version=9
11:03 abraxxa szabgab: i hope the formatting is ok
11:06 azawawi submersible: welcome back
11:07 azawawi submersible: "we meet again" :)
11:09 submersible1 hi
11:09 submersible1 I have yet to devote any time to docbrowser since we met last :)
11:11 azawawi submersible1: so that's instance 1 or core 1 from the submersible super computer? :)
11:11 submersible1 zombie computer
11:11 submersible1 all the MIPs machina are in the garage awaiting rack assembly
11:12 azawawi so why did it take them that long to connect the ADSL ?
11:12 submersible1 I think I have wiggled a ssh socks proxy out of the office..for irc...
11:12 submersible1 don't ask.
11:13 submersible1 azawawi: the relocations ppls seemed to have trouble with relocating a cable service to a dsl service
11:14 azawawi submersible1: so when can we expect you to begin your commit festival? :)
11:15 submersible1 the irony of it .. is I have done precisly nothing worth comitting.
11:15 submersible1 there is of course the mercurial swarm server
11:15 submersible1 but it's sekret
11:16 submersible1 I need to find a git/hg evangalist .. one of each..
11:16 submersible1 and make them fight to the bitter end. :)
11:18 submersible1 afk..
11:18 szabgab abraxxa, thanks, I slightly changed it and moved it
11:18 abraxxa great!
11:23 abraxxa szabgab: i've changed my user home dir ;-)
11:25 Hyppolit svn: r7901 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7901
11:25 Hyppolit [Padre] More stability fixes to ticket:579 "Commenting/uncommenting comments the last unselected line"
11:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
11:28 submersible1 azawawi - was the comment/uncomment bug just an 'out-by-one' thing.
11:29 azawawi submersible1: yeah... and selection was off too...
11:30 submersible1 gorgeous
11:40 Sewi azawawi++; # for fixing 579
11:40 Hyppolit svn: r7902 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7902
11:40 Hyppolit [Padre] Display and log the error from a failed Padre action in quick menu access.
11:40 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
11:41 azawawi Sewi: thanks
11:42 azawawi Sewi: could we think of this scenario as a beginner error?
11:42 azawawi Sewi: Warn the user when the script has prompt() or STDIN in the Perl 5 / 6 file and suggest running it in an external terminal instead of the output
11:43 azawawi Sewi: we need to extend the beginner code a little to cover Perl 5 and 6...
11:45 azawawi Sewi: also "Warn about mixed LF/CRLF in files in Padre when saving or opening... "
11:50 azawawi szabgab: ping
11:52 azawawi home &
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12:01 Sewi azawawi: I covered many things from szabgab's perlmonks threads. For some of the missing things, I don't think that they're beginner errors or I don't know how to detect them in a reasonable development time. Maybe Alias's PPI could help with some.
12:22 rindolf szabgab: http://www.whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modlo​ad&name=News&file=article&sid=6486
12:23 szabgab rindolf, thanks
12:24 rindolf szabgab: you're welcome.
12:24 szabgab rindolf, is this the same group of people in Petach Tikva who were in the newspapers a few weeks ago ?
12:25 rindolf szabgab: not sure.
12:26 szabgab maybe you should setup yourself as the official PR person of HaMakor and send this to some journalists as well
12:35 rindolf szabgab: OK.
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12:39 waxhead interesting!!! Latest padre .46 won't open the main window in vista
12:39 azawawi really?
12:39 waxhead yeah, just did the upgrade in cpan
12:40 azawawi how did u upgrade?
12:40 azawawi <cpan> upgrade Padre ?
12:40 waxhead padre from the command line doesn't show the main window
12:40 waxhead azawawi, using cpan
12:40 waxhead upgrade Padre
12:40 azawawi waxhead: any error output?
12:41 azawawi waxhead: were you developing on padre while upgrading?
12:41 waxhead azawawi, nope
12:41 waxhead nope
12:41 waxhead just figured I'd upgrade while I was doing something else..
12:41 azawawi waxhead: open task manager and make sure no perl.exe exists
12:41 waxhead I can see the icno in the task bar.
12:42 waxhead padre shows up in the application list.
12:42 azawawi hmmm
12:42 waxhead that's intersting.. padre shows up but not perl is running!
12:43 szabgab padre without perl :-)
12:43 azawawi maybe wperl?
12:43 waxhead wperl is there
12:43 azawawi aha kill it
12:44 azawawi waxhead: so you changed padre shortcut?
12:44 waxhead killed it.. started padre from the commandline.. still does the same thing?
12:44 waxhead to use or not use wperl?
12:44 azawawi i noticed some problem with wperl today
12:44 waxhead and perl is running this time
12:44 waxhead same problem as before.
12:44 waxhead no main window
12:45 waxhead I get the splash screen though
12:45 waxhead then it like a minimised window...
12:45 azawawi then it dies on something
12:45 waxhead but you can't open it, or alt-tab to it
12:45 azawawi listen did u install padre 0.45 msi?
12:45 waxhead nope
12:45 waxhead this box has always been done using cpan and upgrade
12:45 azawawi did u change the padre.bat shortcut before?
12:46 waxhead azawawi, don't worry too much about it
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12:46 waxhead I'm going to bed.. we are moving houses this weekend.. been busy packing boxes.. time for bed...
12:46 waxhead no.. no changes to the bat file
12:46 waxhead no changes to anything really.. just upgrade Padre and then run padre from the command line
12:46 azawawi waxhead: maybe the shortcut ?
12:46 waxhead no.. created the shortcut so I had one.. but typically it's just padre from the command line
12:47 azawawi you could help out and send me padre.bat ?
12:47 waxhead sure..
12:47 waxhead hand on..
12:47 azawawi use gist.github.com please... since pastebin hangs using my isp
12:48 azawawi waxhead: and maybe try this one liner to upgrade:
12:48 azawawi waxhead:  perl -MCPAN -e "CPAN->upgrade('/^Padre/')"
12:50 waxhead azawawi, http://gist.github.com/187268
12:51 waxhead azawawi, that's funny.. cpan is now upgrading!
12:51 azawawi waxhead: :)
12:52 azawawi ^Padre everything that starts with Padre
12:52 azawawi what is it upgrading?
12:52 waxhead so how come CPAN is upgrading?
12:52 waxhead :)
12:53 waxhead azawawi, cpan> upgrade Padre
12:53 waxhead Database was generated on Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:31:00 GMT
12:53 waxhead All modules are up to date for Padre
12:53 waxhead the one liner didn't work
12:53 waxhead ok.. gotta go.. tired ...
12:53 waxhead thanks az
12:53 waxhead azawawi even.. :)
12:55 azawawi cya tomorrow then
12:55 azawawi try C:\strawberry\perl\bin\padre.bat
13:01 szabgab Alias, ping, maybe you around?
13:06 szabgab CSJewell, ping
13:07 azawawi png
13:07 azawawi pong
13:07 azawawi :)
13:07 CSJewell plonk.
13:07 szabgab I just looked at http://pass.cpantesters.org​/perl_5.10.1_platforms.html
13:08 szabgab it says there were a grand total of 160 modules with test reports on Windows
13:08 szabgab ok that's not fair, let me look at another link
13:08 szabgab http://pass.cpantesters.org​/perl_5.10.0_platforms.html
13:09 szabgab 11,483
13:09 szabgab much better
13:09 szabgab then I might not have a point after all :-)
13:09 CSJewell Give 5.10.1 time (and a final release of Strawberry for it in October), and it's number will have 4 digits quite quickly!
13:10 szabgab I wanted to suggest to include CPAN::Reporter in Strawberry
13:10 szabgab yes I realized that after I pasted the first link
13:10 szabgab and configure it
13:11 CSJewell On CPAN::Reporter - currently, configuration is a pain. In my case, I have a TLS-only SMTP server, for example.
13:12 CSJewell I know they're planning on making it a web service instead of requiring that reports be e-mailed in. Once that's done, it is going into Strawberry, but not before then.
13:13 szabgab so another suggestion I wanted to make to Alias is to create a top 100 report of the most problematic modules for Win32
13:14 CSJewell Now THAT would be useful.
13:14 szabgab to some definition of "problematic"
13:15 szabgab "no report at all", "no success report", "more than 30% fail report"   and then cross reference it with how many other modules depend on it
13:15 Sewi CSJewell: Why not deliver the report e-Mails directly to the CPANtesters-Mailserver? It should accept them based on the destination address...
13:17 szabgab CSJewell, the other note would be that I think it would already be a nice step forward to include CPAN::Reporter even if you don't configure it
13:17 abraxxa has padre an icon?
13:17 CSJewell Personally, I've gotten it working. The problem is 1) generalizing it, and 2) They don't want THAT much e-mail traffic, IIRC - If I set it up to where every installation of Strawberry reported, they'd come after me with pitchforks and tar and feathers!
13:17 szabgab abraxxa, the blue butterfly
13:17 abraxxa szabgab: included in the dist?
13:18 abraxxa for the gnome launcher
13:18 szabgab abraxxa, yes
13:18 abraxxa i can't find it
13:18 szabgab share/icons/padre/16x16/logo.png
13:19 abraxxa there is no icons dir in my local perl5/share dir
13:19 szabgab abraxxa, search for the filename logo.png
13:19 abraxxa /perl5/lib/perl5/auto/share/dist/Padre/icons/padre
13:19 abraxxa thanks!
13:20 abraxxa can i use a png as gnome icon
13:20 CSJewell Besides, if it's really wanted at the moment, it's pure-perl, so it's easy to install from CPAN. It's not like the DBD's or the crypto or image-creating modules that can sometimes be pains.
13:22 szabgab easy, easy but mine has been running now for 20 minutes already
13:23 szabgab slow virtualbox
13:23 CSJewell Strawberry doesn't need to include everything - or even everything that's commonly used. It DOES need to provide what is both commonly used and hard/annoying to build [and the libraries required], what makes it easy to install modules (pip, PAR, that sort of thing), and the prerequisites (and sometimes, what needs them as prerequisites) for the first two.
13:24 CSJewell & # rdp - will be back in 10.
13:24 azawawi one thing that i hate about scintilla is that it allows setting a position inside EOLs...
13:25 CSJewell back.
13:29 CSJewell For example: While I want Bio::Perl to be usable in Strawberry, I'm not including it.  I AM including DB_File and GD in October's build, which are the prerequisites for it that are painful.  Once those two are there, installing it from CPAN becomes an easy exercise.
13:29 CSJewell szabgab: ^^^
13:30 szabgab I would really like to see a roadmap to Strawberry
13:30 szabgab and for Chocolate or Strawberry Professonal
13:30 szabgab or whatever you guys will call it
13:31 szabgab (same with Padre Standalone and Strawberry Six or Strawberry Parrot)
13:31 szabgab a list of modules that are planned to be included along with target dates
13:31 CSJewell I think the name will be "Strawberry Professional" and I need to discuss that with Alias, but I think it'd be useful.
13:33 szabgab hinting at http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PadreStandalone
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13:46 Hyppolit svn: r7903 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7903
13:47 Hyppolit [Padre] Handle defensively 'toggle comment'/comment/uncomment lines failure
13:47 Hyppolit [Padre] when there is no document
13:47 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
13:49 CSJewell I need some rest - I've only had 5 hours so far (got up to check things and never got back down)
13:49 CSJewell & # sleep
13:54 Hyppolit svn: r7904 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7904
13:54 Hyppolit [Padre] Removed svn:eol-style=native property.
13:54 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
13:58 rindolf szabgab: do you have the emails of Israeli software-related journalists?
13:59 Hyppolit svn: r7905 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7905
13:59 Hyppolit [Padre] Making sure Main.pm is UNIX EOLed...
13:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
14:01 szabgab rindolf, nope
14:02 rindolf szabgab: OK, I'll ask on board or discussions.
14:02 abraxxa can i convert a vim color scheme to a padre color scheme?
14:16 Hyppolit svn: r7906 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7906
14:16 Hyppolit [Padre] Added a test to check for CR/LF or CR for all files. Not working though.
14:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
14:37 abraxxa can i start the cat dev server in debug mode with the cat plugin?
14:45 garu abraxxa, not yet... I'm working on a preferences window where you could setup those options, like debug, restart, keepalive, port, etc
14:46 abraxxa garu: great, thanks!
14:46 garu abraxxa, feel free to help if you can, code's at padre's repo :)
14:46 abraxxa i've added -Debug to the list of plugins for now
14:46 abraxxa which is git which i don't know
14:50 abraxxa garu: putting the start/stop buttons (or a restart button in case the server is running) in the toolbar would be helpful too
14:51 garu abolutely... what I would prefer actually is make them just one button, changing the label from "stop" to "start" (and vice-versa) dynamically
14:51 garu s/abolutely/absolutely/
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14:52 garu but I'm yet to figure how :)
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15:12 Hyppolit svn: r7907 | jquelin++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7907
15:12 Hyppolit updated french translation
15:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
15:24 Hyppolit svn: r7908 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7908
15:24 Hyppolit [Padre] Proper testing for UNIX *.pm is now active using Padre::Util::newline_type
15:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
15:25 Hyppolit svn: r7909 | jquelin++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7909
15:25 Hyppolit updated french translation
15:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/share/locale/
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16:45 MMS Question: How do I upgrade from 0.41 to 0.46 on a WinXPPro Sp2? Do I have to uninstall and install from the beginning?
17:17 szabgab http://padre.perlide.org/howto.html
17:17 szabgab MMS, perl -MCPAN -e "CPAN->upgrade('/^Padre/')"
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17:41 MMS Thnks
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18:04 Hyppolit svn: r7910 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7910
18:04 Hyppolit [Padre] Removed CRLF from 13-eol.t
18:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
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19:25 Hyppolit svn: r7911 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7911
19:25 Hyppolit Added another beginner error.
19:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/
19:40 Hyppolit svn: r7912 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7912
19:40 Hyppolit Added the short German Padre installation howto
19:40 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/
19:41 Sewi szabgab: ping
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19:47 Sewi Anybody familiar with the Padre homepage here?
19:49 Sewi szabgab: I added the German installation howto to the homepage (http://padre.perlide.org/howto.de.html), but it is not found.
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23:58 Alias szabgab: If Strawberry includes CPAN::Reporter, we won't be using email
23:58 Alias szabgab: Email support in the general case is fucking horrible
23:58 Alias szabgab: What would be much better would be testers.strawberryperl.com and the HTTP transport
23:59 Alias szabgab: The problem ATM is that CPAN::Reporter expects a config file saved in a user path, there's no way to provide a default "vendor" configuration

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