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azawawi |
good morning |
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azawawi |
Alias: ping |
| 02:03 |
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azawawi |
Alias: Have you uploaded the newer File::Which and Test::Script that are required in Padre's Makefile.PL? |
| 02:36 |
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Alias |
I have as of a few hours ago |
| 02:37 |
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azawawi |
ty |
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* azawawi |
is blogging about Padre 0.46 |
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ppant |
Hello Good Morning |
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azawawi |
hi ppant |
| 03:26 |
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ppant |
I am new to Padre but now I have installed on Windows and Ubuntu 9.04 |
| 03:27 |
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ppant |
I want to participate on dev |
| 03:27 |
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ppant |
of padre.. how should I proceed |
| 03:27 |
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azawawi |
great... welcome |
| 03:28 |
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azawawi |
szabgab will be online in like 1-2 hours |
| 03:28 |
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azawawi |
he'll open registration for trac for you |
| 03:28 |
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ppant |
great.. |
| 03:28 |
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azawawi |
and give you commit access |
| 03:28 |
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azawawi |
we closed open registration down for spam... |
| 03:29 |
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ppant |
For last 1 week on so I am just trying to follow the converation |
| 03:29 |
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azawawi |
meanwhile read this... |
| 03:29 |
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azawawi |
http://padre.perlide.org/getting_involved.html |
| 03:29 |
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ppant |
I appreciate what you guys are doing:) |
| 03:30 |
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ppant |
I will go though it |
| 03:30 |
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azawawi |
and this http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Howto |
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garu |
szabgab, ping |
| 03:48 |
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ppant |
Hi <garu> Good Morning |
| 03:48 |
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garu |
hi ppant! good morning :) |
| 03:54 |
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szabgab |
gm |
| 03:54 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: ppant wants to join in... |
| 03:54 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: as a developer |
| 03:55 |
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szabgab |
I think I'd like the first few patches to go to trac |
| 03:55 |
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Ryan52 |
I don't think he has access to trac. |
| 03:55 |
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szabgab |
especially as we are going to get several beginners - students I teach - with 0 experience in perl or svn or open source |
| 03:56 |
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szabgab |
so either you Ryan52 or garu can open and close the registration, right? |
| 03:56 |
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szabgab |
Alias, after looking at #win32, maybe it is time to move +6 to the Strawberry Perl web site |
| 03:57 |
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szabgab |
and start to release an experimental Strawberry+Padre and add it to the Strawberry website |
| 03:58 |
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garu |
ppant, want to register to trac now? |
| 03:58 |
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garu |
szabgab, I saw this and it reminded me of you --> http://www.railsforkids.com/ |
| 03:58 |
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Ryan52 |
poor kids |
| 03:58 |
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Ryan52 |
=P |
| 03:59 |
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* Ryan52 |
doesn't like ruby very much :) |
| 03:59 |
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garu |
szabgab, it's in pt_BR, but I basically like the idea behind both the name and the actual meaning (which I don't think has anything to do with the name) |
| 03:59 |
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Ryan52 |
garu: what is it? |
| 04:01 |
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garu |
the name "railsforkids" makes me think of what szabgab was thinking with the logoish thingie... teaching programming for kids... this made me think maybe we should take upon such an initiative, register perlforkids and work the idea of teaching a somewhat "baby Perl" in a fashion that's interesting for children (which plain text pods are not) |
| 04:01 |
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garu |
optionally we could also register perlforteens ... well, you get the idea |
| 04:02 |
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garu |
(it's just an idea that came to mind, btw - not necessarily good.... at all) |
| 04:02 |
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garu |
second: |
| 04:05 |
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garu |
the actual purpose of the site has nothing to do with kids: it's about a marathon of 12 online talks (with audio/video/slides/chat) that (supposedly) went on all through september the 12th, meant to teach RoR ... so the kids appeals to me as "something for beginners" or "something to play with" |
| 04:06 |
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szabgab |
I am still in child distribution mode but I am trying to follow you ppl |
| 04:06 |
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garu |
third: |
| 04:07 |
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szabgab |
perlforkids and friends can start with downloading games |
| 04:08 |
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azawawi |
http://ahmadzawawi.blogspot.co[…]in-padre-046.html |
| 04:10 |
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garu |
what they also did which I found interesting is that they made it a "100% beneficent event" meaning people have to pay R$30 (about 17 USD) to get access to the live event and later on to all the leftover material, but all the money would go to an NGO that aids people with special needs |
| 04:11 |
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garu |
s/pay/pay a symbolic value of/; |
| 04:13 |
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Ryan52 |
azawawi++ # way better blog entry than mine :) |
| 04:13 |
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azawawi |
Ryan52: thx |
| 04:13 |
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azawawi |
Ryan52: the idea is to blog a lot :) |
| 04:14 |
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azawawi |
Ryan52: and link a lot |
| 04:17 |
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azawawi |
Ryan52: when is the next release due? :) |
| 04:18 |
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Alias |
szabgab: I agree, once we hit October release |
| 04:18 |
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Alias |
szabgab: Right now, it's a bit too hard to find the additional versions |
| 04:19 |
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szabgab |
additional versions? |
| 04:19 |
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Alias |
Or a link to the beta stuff |
| 04:19 |
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szabgab |
I think people are starting to get confused on how to get padre after installing strawberry |
| 04:19 |
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Ryan52 |
azawawi: dunno |
| 04:19 |
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garu |
"our new and cool Padre release maintainer" |
| 04:19 |
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Ryan52 |
thursdayish? |
| 04:20 |
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Alias |
azawawi: I just filed a bug against the F2/opref stuff |
| 04:20 |
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Alias |
azawawi: It doesn't seem to work properly for me |
| 04:20 |
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* garu |
feels like an old and square old-history release monkey :( |
| 04:20 |
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Alias |
If I hightlight ">" and hit F2, I get the help for "$>" instead of "X > Y" |
| 04:21 |
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szabgab |
Alias, can you create and add a page to the Strawberry web site with the beta versions (which are currently the +6 0.41 releases)? |
| 04:21 |
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szabgab |
or do you want to wait another 4-6 weeks with that? |
| 04:22 |
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Ryan52 |
azawawi: hm...since you've touched the splash screen code apparently.. |
| 04:22 |
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Ryan52 |
azawawi: could we use Wx::Perl::SplashFast? |
| 04:22 |
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Ryan52 |
I mean, did you look at using it? |
| 04:22 |
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Ryan52 |
not sure if that'd be simpler or not. |
| 04:23 |
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Ryan52 |
tho I know that the splash screen before you changed stuff didn't work well for me, haven't tried with your improvements yet. |
| 04:24 |
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azawawi |
Ryan52: i will take a look at it |
| 04:25 |
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ppant |
<garu Yes.. |
| 04:25 |
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Alias |
As far as I can tell, SplashFast doesn't actually improve anything |
| 04:25 |
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garu |
Ryan52, I think Alias and I considered W:P:SplashFast, but it was discarded because of the way Padre was loaded |
| 04:25 |
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Alias |
I took a look at it when I did the last speed up for splash |
| 04:25 |
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Alias |
I think it's timer was also hard-coded in |
| 04:25 |
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garu |
it was |
| 04:25 |
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Ryan52 |
oh, okay. and now my curiosity is over. |
| 04:26 |
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garu |
no way to destroy it externally and stuff |
| 04:26 |
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Alias |
You could only do a fixed time splash, which removed any future improvements to Padre that would make it vanish faster |
| 04:26 |
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Ryan52 |
ah |
| 04:26 |
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Alias |
And it meant MORE dependencies, and more modules to load |
| 04:26 |
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Alias |
So it also made run-time Padre and all it's threads heavier |
| 04:26 |
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Alias |
Just for a vanity feature :) |
| 04:28 |
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azawawi |
Alias: it is now destroyed before wx->MainLoop |
| 04:28 |
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azawawi |
Alias: and before re-focus singleinstance event... |
| 04:30 |
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garu |
azawawi, did you get a chance to do a "quick fix" example? |
| 04:31 |
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azawawi |
garu: not really, im focused on stability and enhancements atm |
| 04:31 |
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azawawi |
garu: features that were annoying me... |
| 04:32 |
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garu |
azawawi, okay, no problem :) |
| 04:35 |
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azawawi |
Alias: are checksums calculated later when a newer package is uploaded to CPAN? |
| 04:41 |
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Alias |
Should be at the same time it writes to the master |
| 04:41 |
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Alias |
It might be the CPAN client not updating, or the CPAN mirror not getting both files |
| 04:42 |
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azawawi |
strange |
| 04:42 |
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azawawi |
it happened to me like a couple of times on new packages, maybe ISP-caching |
| 04:42 |
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azawawi |
cpan client should add ?t=random-number to solve that |
| 04:46 |
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Alias |
Are you using a magic super-fast mirror? |
| 04:47 |
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Alias |
That might behave different |
| 04:47 |
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Alias |
Or indeed, could be a proxy |
| 04:49 |
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azawawi |
nop strawberry's... |
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Alias |
hrm |
| 05:16 |
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Alias |
Strawberry's is cpan.cpantesters.org |
| 05:16 |
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Alias |
(for now) |
| 05:16 |
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szabgab |
Alias, another topic |
| 05:16 |
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szabgab |
I wrote about yesterday, can you create a top 100 for win32 > |
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szabgab |
> |
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szabgab |
? |
| 05:17 |
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Alias |
Probably |
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szabgab |
something like top100 failing on windows |
| 05:17 |
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Alias |
yeah, I know what you want |
| 05:17 |
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szabgab |
good, because I am not sure :-) |
| 05:17 |
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Alias |
Trouble is that it's entirely a trivial thing to make |
| 05:18 |
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Alias |
Most of the "headline" stuff is baked into CPANDB |
| 05:18 |
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Alias |
And then Top100 just pulls from CPANDB |
| 05:18 |
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szabgab |
originally I thought to have a cpan mirror with only modules that are working on win32 |
| 05:18 |
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Alias |
That might be a bad idea |
| 05:18 |
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Alias |
One bad test reports and stuff vanishes |
| 05:18 |
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szabgab |
I would say include ever module with one good report |
| 05:19 |
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szabgab |
and don't mirror the newer version until it gets a good report |
| 05:19 |
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Alias |
Every method is going to have edge cases |
| 05:19 |
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Alias |
But something like that might be possible |
| 05:19 |
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Alias |
A FAIL 100 Win32-edition would be something else entirely though |
| 05:19 |
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szabgab |
so maybe start with a report ? |
| 05:19 |
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Alias |
That's a prioritisation algorithm |
| 05:20 |
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Alias |
ORDB::CPANTesters |
| 05:20 |
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Alias |
Join release against CPANDB to find distribution |
| 05:20 |
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szabgab |
yes I was just thinking on how to improve the win32 experience as I keep hearing people complain that things don't install well on Strawberry |
| 05:20 |
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Alias |
Then select distribution where count blah where win32 group by distribution etc |
| 05:21 |
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szabgab |
most of the time these complaints don't come fix factual report so noone can really help them |
| 05:21 |
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Alias |
Now they'd just complain they can see a module in search.cpan, but Strawberry doesn't think it exists :) |
| 05:22 |
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szabgab |
so creating a report and trying to get those fixed would be a first step |
| 05:22 |
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szabgab |
after your many similar steps |
| 05:23 |
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szabgab |
can you differentiate between test reports from Strawberry perl and other win32 distros? |
| 05:24 |
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szabgab |
could you create a report of "has ActivePerl ppm package but no successful test on Strawberry" |
| 05:24 |
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szabgab |
with "has ActivePerl ppm" I think one should mean any win32 ppm not only those distributed by AS |
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Sewi |
gm |
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Sewi |
ping szabgab |
| 05:35 |
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szabgab |
poing |
| 05:36 |
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Sewi |
Hi, I got a problem yesterday: 21:49Sewiszabgab: I added the German installation howto to the homepage (http://padre.perlide.org/howto.de.html), but it is not found. |
| 05:36 |
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szabgab |
oh have you tried the README in the templates... directory? |
| 05:37 |
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Sewi |
seems I didn't read it. |
| 05:38 |
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szabgab |
then can you please check http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/557 and apply the patch if it is ok |
| 05:38 |
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Sewi |
Do you mean the build part? |
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szabgab |
I am quite sure if you manage generate it on your machine you will be able to track down the problm |
| 05:41 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7913 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7913 |
| 05:41 |
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Hyppolit |
Patch from ticket #557 (JoshuaW++) |
| 05:41 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/ |
| 05:42 |
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Sewi |
Thanks. |
| 05:46 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, thanks, if the README is still not clear I'll try to help of course |
| 05:47 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: If a ticket (576 in this case) is assigned to/owned by someone else, but I could fix it with a few lines, may I do so and close it or shall I leave it to the current owner? |
| 05:47 |
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szabgab |
I find the recent mst blog really good, please upvote on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/progra[…]e_and_design_and/ |
| 05:48 |
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szabgab |
in general I think it is ok, but with 576, how do you suggest to give that feedback? |
| 05:52 |
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Alias |
szabgab: I have no visibility of PPM |
| 05:53 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: Like the error messages (atm): A message box |
| 05:55 |
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szabgab |
Alias, we could ask Randy Kobes for a feed |
| 05:55 |
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Alias |
huh? |
| 05:55 |
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Alias |
Why Randy? |
| 05:55 |
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Alias |
If you use ActivePerl, you don't get his repo by default |
| 05:55 |
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Alias |
And the default is all that really matter |
| 05:55 |
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Alias |
matters |
| 05:55 |
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szabgab |
because his search engine shows the ppms ? |
| 05:56 |
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szabgab |
AS has a list of all the ppms for windows, you could go with that list |
| 05:56 |
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szabgab |
but for example they don't package Wx |
| 05:56 |
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szabgab |
and quite a number of modules that are important |
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Alias |
It entirely depends what you are trying to measure |
| 06:03 |
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Alias |
You need to be clear about what PRECISELY you are trying to measure |
| 06:04 |
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Alias |
It's almost impossible to just wing it and come up with something sane |
| 06:08 |
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szabgab |
Alias, several things I can think of, not all of them fist the top 100 idea |
| 06:09 |
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szabgab |
1) list of all the modules that are packaged as ppm by AS or someone else but don't pass tests on Strawberry - a big red question mark, this is not top 100 relevant IMHO, just a list |
| 06:11 |
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szabgab |
2) TOP 100 modules that cause problems in Strawberry Perl. I don't know how to measure that |
| 06:12 |
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Alias |
Strawberry isn't a thing, it's just windows perl native |
| 06:12 |
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Alias |
So it's all of MSWin32 |
| 06:12 |
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Alias |
Attempting to somehow isolate the brand name is a bad idea |
| 06:13 |
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szabgab |
I think it should be important to the Strawberry people to make sure they are at least as good (in CPAN module installation) as ActivePerl |
| 06:14 |
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szabgab |
that is for 1) |
| 06:14 |
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* Alias |
shrugs |
| 06:14 |
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Alias |
I'd rather not make comparisons like that |
| 06:14 |
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szabgab |
for 2) you are right |
| 06:14 |
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Alias |
Or at least, I'd rather avoid them where we can |
| 06:15 |
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Alias |
I DO have a complete download log for cpan.strawberryperl.com |
| 06:15 |
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szabgab |
why? |
| 06:15 |
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Alias |
I'm much rather build a weighting over the normal graph |
| 06:15 |
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Alias |
And then look for failures there |
| 06:15 |
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Alias |
Why do something just because someone else does it |
| 06:15 |
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Alias |
Much better to look at what OUR users are missing out on and fix that first |
| 06:16 |
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Alias |
If ActivePerl does something, it's not really important until people start to ask for that specific function |
| 06:16 |
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szabgab |
that can lead to the same problem that websites that don't work with FF say that our users don't use FF so we don't need to make it work under FF |
| 06:16 |
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Alias |
I see plenty of complaints that there's no equivalent to Foo in Strawberry |
| 06:17 |
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Alias |
Responding to those requests is quite different to proactively copying |
| 06:17 |
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szabgab |
so I think a person would download Strawberry, try to install some module that is not very common but he needs it, it fails to install, he leaves Strawberry |
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szabgab |
IMHO most of the corporate people will not tell you (or anyone else) something is broken and they need it |
| 06:18 |
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szabgab |
most of them will assume noone cares |
| 06:18 |
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szabgab |
or at least that's what I see |
| 06:19 |
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szabgab |
and I am not saying you personally need to fix those modules in Strawberry |
| 06:19 |
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* Alias |
shrugs |
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Alias |
We fix the next thing we can see... |
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szabgab |
must be cold , you keep shrugging |
| 06:20 |
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Alias |
If we can't distinguish between something nobody uses and something everyone uses but nobody talks about, it's pointless |
| 06:20 |
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Alias |
Fortunately, we CAN see those corporate people downloading modules |
| 06:20 |
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Alias |
So this isn't entirely a speculative exercise here |
| 06:21 |
|
Alias |
Matching the cpan.strawberry download logs against cpan testers would give you a fairly decent list of things that people want but can't have |
| 06:21 |
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szabgab |
sound good |
| 06:21 |
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Alias |
Also, once CPAN::Reporter has vendor config support, we'll interrupt them and ask if we can report the failed install |
| 06:22 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7914 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7914 |
| 06:22 |
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Hyppolit |
Added missing deps to README |
| 06:22 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/ |
| 06:22 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7915 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7915 |
| 06:22 |
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Hyppolit |
Typo-fix |
| 06:22 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/ |
| 06:23 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: Fixed & working now. |
| 06:24 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, great |
| 06:24 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7916 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7916 |
| 06:24 |
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Hyppolit |
Made TT-errors more helpful by adding more info |
| 06:24 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/inc/Local/Padre/Website/ |
| 06:26 |
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szabgab |
azawawi, I have added several links to http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Features pointing to your recent blog entry |
| 06:27 |
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szabgab |
but I think in the long run it would be better to copy your screenshots and explanations to the padre website |
| 06:27 |
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szabgab |
they are really nice |
| 06:28 |
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Alias |
Or make screenr.com screencasts |
| 06:35 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7917 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7917 |
| 06:35 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Added "What's new in Padre 0.46" Blog post to articles |
| 06:35 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
| 06:36 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: thanks...more linking :) |
| 06:38 |
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szabgab |
Alias, I think we should have textual posts with screenshots and also screencast |
| 06:38 |
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szabgab |
you know, not everyone will understand my spoken English |
| 06:38 |
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azawawi |
hmmm subtitles :) |
| 06:38 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: how about making one in english, and then simply creating subtitles for it |
| 06:39 |
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szabgab |
that can work but I still think we need screenshots and plain text as well |
| 06:39 |
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szabgab |
but whatever you do it is a progress |
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szabgab |
JRW, I have started to write something: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/TestingSystem |
| 07:45 |
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szabgab |
azawawi, ping |
| 07:45 |
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azawawi |
plong |
| 07:46 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: what's up? |
| 07:46 |
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szabgab |
there is someone from Pakistan who is trying to sign up to the Israeli perl mongers on LinkedIn |
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azawawi |
interesting |
| 07:47 |
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szabgab |
but I tend to allow only people from Israel |
| 07:47 |
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szabgab |
do you use LinkedIn? |
| 07:47 |
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azawawi |
nop |
| 07:47 |
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azawawi |
no use here... :( |
| 07:47 |
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szabgab |
so maybe start using it? |
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* azawawi |
adds to his long todo list :) |
| 07:48 |
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szabgab |
maybe you won't find many people local to you |
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szabgab |
azawawi, 5 minutes? |
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azawawi |
not 5 mins for sure |
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azawawi |
sorry |
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szabgab |
anyway I sent you an invitation :-) |
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ppant |
szabgab, Can you make allow me to register to for trac? |
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szabgab |
ppant, go ahead |
| 07:56 |
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szabgab |
http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register |
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ppant |
Will do Tx |
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ppant |
I have created account there... I think now I have to check out the code base from svn right? |
| 08:02 |
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Sewi |
yes |
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Sewi |
Do you need any help for this? |
| 08:05 |
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ppant |
Tx.. I would like try myself first by following the instructions.. will let you know in case of issue |
| 08:06 |
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Sewi |
This is the preferred way :-) |
| 08:15 |
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szabgab |
ppant, that's great, then you can also help clarify the instructions to make it even easier for the next one to come |
| 08:24 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7918 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7918 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Fixed ticket:576 "common (beginner) error check has no feedback if no errors found" |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7919 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7919 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Perl tidy... |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
| 08:28 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7920 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7920 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Updated Changes :) |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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ppant |
szabgab, I am facing some issue with code check out from trunk |
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ppant |
shall I send screen shot? |
| 08:34 |
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szabgab |
is there a pastebin for images? |
| 08:34 |
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szabgab |
why not copy paste the text to a pastebin? |
| 08:41 |
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ppant |
http://widget.mibbit.com/pb/rFPMEF |
| 08:42 |
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Sewi |
Seems empty to me :-( |
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ppant |
my fault.. give me sec |
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* Sewi |
hands a sec over to ppant :-) |
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azawawi |
prove does not work on win32 |
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azawawi |
http://gist.github.com/187936 |
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ppant |
Command: Checkout from http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk revision HEAD, Fully recursive Error REPORT of '/padre/!svn/vcc/defauly':Responce exceeded maximum number of header Error fields (http://svn.perlide.org) Finished |
| 08:50 |
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szabgab |
how did you try it? |
| 08:51 |
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ppant |
through svn client |
| 08:51 |
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szabgab |
what os? what command ? |
| 08:51 |
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ppant |
Tortise SVN |
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szabgab |
azawawi, ?? |
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ppant |
Windows .. installed SVN client set the repository of padre http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/ |
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azawawi |
szabgab: yup |
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szabgab |
I just tried on linux and it brought all the 84 Mb |
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azawawi |
szabgab: im debugging it atm |
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szabgab |
azawawi, cann you also help ppant ? |
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azawawi |
ppant: win32? |
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azawawi |
szabgab: sure |
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ppant |
yes |
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azawawi |
what's the svn client that you have installed? |
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ppant |
I am using Tortise svn client |
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azawawi |
cool me 2 |
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ppant |
:) |
| 08:55 |
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azawawi |
svn checkout http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/ |
| 08:55 |
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ppant |
By repo browser I have set http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/ |
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azawawi |
right click, and then svn checkout |
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azawawi |
and enter http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/ |
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ppant |
done the same will try again |
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azawawi |
checkout depth => recursive |
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azawawi |
Revision => head |
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azawawi |
make sure that the directory you're checking into is clean (no .svn folders) |
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azawawi |
what version of tortoisesvn? |
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ppant |
1.6. |
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ppant |
1.6.5 |
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azawawi |
cool |
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azawawi |
tell me what's the error then? |
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ppant |
The same steps I have done earlier too |
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azawawi |
and what happened? |
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ppant |
can you just go below in chat window |
| 08:59 |
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ppant |
sorry above |
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* azawawi |
backlogs |
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ppant |
yes |
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ppant |
Command: |
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azawawi |
where are you checking out to? |
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azawawi |
and try opening http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/ in your browser |
| 09:04 |
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ppant |
it opens properly |
| 09:06 |
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azawawi |
cool |
| 09:06 |
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ppant |
I have created a folder in d drive D:\PadreSRC there i am try to check out |
| 09:06 |
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ppant |
from trunk |
| 09:06 |
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ppant |
http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/ |
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azawawi |
are there files in D:\PadreSRC ? |
| 09:07 |
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azawawi |
delete folder and create it again please |
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ppant |
No.. I always delete the .svn folder after |
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azawawi |
and then try checking out |
| 09:07 |
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ppant |
each attempt |
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ppant |
ok.. will try that |
| 09:12 |
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ppant |
No message .. still try.. just want to ask how much time takes to do the full trunk check out? |
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azawawi |
it is like 18MB |
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azawawi |
if i remember correctly |
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ppant |
ok |
| 09:12 |
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azawawi |
so it works now? |
| 09:13 |
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ppant |
Not was just cheking |
| 09:13 |
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ppant |
No . |
| 09:13 |
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ppant |
Still trying no error message |
| 09:13 |
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ppant |
only 11KB transferred |
| 09:16 |
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ppant |
I think I should give some more time to it to check the problem |
| 09:16 |
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ppant |
I will not take your much time to solve small issues |
| 09:17 |
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ppant |
:) |
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azawawi |
no problem |
| 09:17 |
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ppant |
will come back to you in case of issues |
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Sewi |
ppant: Maybe limiting the checkout to "trunk/Padre" would help. |
| 09:19 |
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ppant |
I will try that |
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azawawi |
ppant: how fast is your internet? |
| 09:22 |
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ppant |
512 kbps |
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ppant |
line |
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azawawi |
cool then it should nt take that much time |
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azawawi |
any firewalls/antiviri active? |
| 09:22 |
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ppant |
yes.. GDATA NoteBook security |
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azawawi |
ppant: can you disable it while testing? |
| 09:23 |
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azawawi |
ppant: sometimes these strange problems are firewall/antivirus related |
| 09:23 |
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azawawi |
ppant: vista? |
| 09:23 |
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Sewi |
ppant: GDATA is known to cause a huge amount of problems. It could crash or freeze other applications and things like this. |
| 09:24 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: did u do the "Run this test"? |
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ppant |
Sewi, azawawi-- limiting check out to /trunk/Padre is sucessful |
| 09:25 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: I applied rhebus's patch afair. Any problems? |
| 09:28 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: prove some_file_name_with_spaces does not work on win32 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: i wonder if even anyone tested it :) |
| 09:29 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: prove -bv "C:\docs and settings\test.t" |
| 09:29 |
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Sewi |
I don't think so. I tested it on Linux and it worked with standard-conform and non-standard tests. |
| 09:29 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: prove sees it as C:\docs, and, settings, test.t :) |
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Sewi |
azawawi: I know these problems... :-) |
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azawawi |
Sewi: it is a problem in prove that's for sure |
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szabgab |
trunk was 85 Mb now that I checked out |
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azawawi |
lol |
| 09:30 |
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szabgab |
which probably means the real size is half of that and with compression (is there compression in SVN?) the network traffic is a lot smaller |
| 09:31 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7921 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7921 |
| 09:31 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Used File::Which to find where prove is on win32/other |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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azawawi |
szabgab: compression is done on the apache http layer... |
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azawawi |
Sewi: take a look at App::Prove |
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Sewi |
azawawi: Sorry, later, currently busy. |
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azawawi |
szabgab: take a look at App::Prove, http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]/lib/App/Prove.pm |
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azawawi |
szabgab: :) |
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azawawi |
szabgab: $self->{argv} = [@ARGV]; |
| 09:34 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: is the culprit here... |
| 09:34 |
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szabgab |
why is that an issue? |
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azawawi |
prove c:\docs and settings\test.t does not work |
| 09:35 |
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szabgab |
I know in windows for some reason you don't get the values in the command line |
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azawawi |
prove "c:\docs and settings\test.t" does not work |
| 09:35 |
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szabgab |
only if you write perl script.pl param |
| 09:35 |
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szabgab |
I don't know why though |
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azawawi |
that line assumes that we dont have spaces... |
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azawawi |
could you try prove on your linux with a directory with spaces? |
| 09:36 |
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szabgab |
that's ok I think |
| 09:36 |
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szabgab |
you have to put them in quotes |
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azawawi |
szabgab: it works on win32 without spaces |
| 09:37 |
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szabgab |
works well on linux if you put the path in quote |
| 09:39 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: http://gist.github.com/187962 |
| 09:41 |
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szabgab |
azawawi, what about perl "c:\Documents and Settings\azawawi\My Documents\test.t" ? |
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azawawi |
works... |
| 09:42 |
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azawawi |
prove has screwed-up option processing when spaces are involved... |
| 09:43 |
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szabgab |
what bout perl "path to prove" "c:\Documents and Settings\azawawi\My Documents\test.t" ? |
| 09:43 |
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azawawi |
same problemo |
| 09:43 |
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szabgab |
interesting |
| 09:44 |
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szabgab |
and strange |
| 09:44 |
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azawawi |
prove is working |
| 09:45 |
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azawawi |
refresh http://gist.github.com/187962 |
| 09:45 |
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azawawi |
i edited and added what happens when use test.t from a directory without spaces |
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szabgab |
what is prove? isn't that a .bat file actually |
| 09:46 |
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azawawi |
yeah |
| 09:47 |
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azawawi |
i traced it back to App::Prove |
| 09:47 |
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szabgab |
so I think the problem might be in the .bat file |
| 09:47 |
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szabgab |
as that code you showed looks ok to me |
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azawawi |
i dont think so since those are auto-generated... |
| 09:47 |
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szabgab |
by the time you get to @ARG something has already processed the command line params |
| 09:48 |
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szabgab |
so maybe we have the same problem in other command line tools |
| 09:48 |
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szabgab |
padre "path to\file.txt" ? |
| 09:49 |
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szabgab |
JRWeiss, I started to write this: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/TestingSystem |
| 09:49 |
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azawawi |
padre "c:\Documents and Settings\azawawi\My Documents\test.t" worked perfectly |
| 09:49 |
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azawawi |
it is prove :) |
| 09:49 |
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szabgab |
ok, I think you proved it :-) |
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azawawi |
opening multiple files in padre from the command line works also |
| 09:52 |
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azawawi |
with spaces |
| 10:03 |
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JRWeiss |
szabgab, is there something wrong with the site Padre.Perlride.org |
| 10:03 |
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JRWeiss |
I can't conect |
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azawawi |
yup it seems offline... |
| 10:03 |
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szabgab |
http://padre.perlide.org/ |
| 10:04 |
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szabgab |
WORKSFORME |
| 10:04 |
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azawawi |
lol |
| 10:04 |
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azawawi |
extra r |
| 10:05 |
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JRWeiss |
that was just a typo here I access the correct addres in my browser |
| 10:05 |
|
* azawawi |
rolls his sleeves to find prove's problem :) |
| 10:05 |
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Sewi |
works for me, too, but http://blogs.padre.perlide.org/ was quite slow not long ago |
| 10:06 |
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JRWeiss |
Ok now it let me in. (closed the browser and tried again) |
| 10:08 |
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JRWeiss |
szabgab, I will update this page with the stuff I have started to write as well |
| 10:08 |
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szabgab |
there seemed to have some issue with the ISP |
| 10:09 |
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szabgab |
for a few seconds or a minute |
| 10:09 |
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JRWeiss |
szabgab, take a look at the AutoIT tool for testing http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/ |
| 10:09 |
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szabgab |
I had also trouble with my other sever |
| 10:09 |
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JRWeiss |
I was lucky enough to hit those few seconds and restarting the browser took enough time |
| 10:23 |
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azawawi |
JRWeiss: autohotkey is cool also |
| 10:24 |
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azawawi |
JRWeiss: but is win32 only |
| 10:37 |
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szabgab |
JRWeiss, is that free but not open source? |
| 10:38 |
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szabgab |
pls add the link to our wiki, azawawi you too |
| 10:38 |
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szabgab |
and then let's see how can we beat them? |
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azawawi |
szabgab: #@argv = map { glob "$_" } @argv if NEED_GLOB; |
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azawawi |
szabgab: lib\App\Prove\State.pm |
| 10:40 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: win32 file globbing screws up things |
| 10:41 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: found it lol :) |
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azawawi |
szabgab: that's why it does nt happen on your machine... since it happens in win32 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i remember we had a similar problem and we used File::Glob::Windows; |
| 10:45 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: but in App::Prove, i guess that's out of the question dependency-wise |
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azawawi |
Alias: ping |
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azawawi |
szabgab: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=49732 :) |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i added this for future reference http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/582 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7922 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7922 |
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Hyppolit |
Fixed a use-of-undefined-value - warning |
| 12:02 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 12:11 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7923 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7923 |
| 12:11 |
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Hyppolit |
Add a Padre file-API as preparation for the fix of ticket #12 |
| 12:11 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7924 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7924 |
| 12:12 |
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Hyppolit |
Add a Padre file-API - module for local files |
| 12:12 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ |
| 12:13 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7925 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7925 |
| 12:13 |
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Hyppolit |
Start using the new Padre file-API |
| 12:13 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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waxhead |
evening |
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JRWeiss |
szabgab, ping |
| 12:52 |
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szabgab |
pong |
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szabgab |
I just woke up |
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JRWeiss |
sorry for disappearing, I am bac now |
| 12:53 |
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JRWeiss |
OK so did I |
| 12:53 |
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JRWeiss |
I actualy sick today so I just could not continue earlier |
| 12:53 |
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JRWeiss |
yes AutoIT is free but from what I saw not open source |
| 12:54 |
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JRWeiss |
I think it is wrtten in C++ |
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szabgab |
ic |
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azawawi |
Sewi++ # for Padre::File |
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azawawi |
Sewi: please update Padre/Changes |
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El_Che |
is there a way to batch configure cpan (preferably as a user)? |
| 13:06 |
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El_Che |
still thinking of a gui interface for a padre cpan install on ubuntu |
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azawawi |
Sewi: ping |
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submersible1 |
::FTP and :SSH vapor? |
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azawawi |
padre seems broken |
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azawawi |
i only see ??? when i open a file... |
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azawawi |
Padre does not support Perl files lol :) |
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submersible1 |
srsly? |
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azawawi |
yeah |
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submersible1 |
@7925 working for me |
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szabgab |
Sewi, http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7922 |
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szabgab |
I'd rather find out how can it happen that a document does not have a mime-type |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7926 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7926 |
| 13:17 |
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Hyppolit |
[Padre] Removed obsolete commented code... |
| 13:17 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i am a bit puzzled here... what does WIN32/UNIX mean in the status bar? |
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szabgab |
I guess it means the file is mixed |
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szabgab |
in terms of newlines |
| 13:20 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: no i mean WIN32 or UNIX ... the value there... |
| 13:20 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: what does the value mean? |
| 13:20 |
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submersible1 |
:{) |
| 13:20 |
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szabgab |
those indicate the newline type in he file |
| 13:20 |
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submersible1 |
Line endings in this file "best-guess" |
| 13:21 |
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szabgab |
or I am still sleeping |
| 13:21 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: the document's new line type or the current default new line type? |
| 13:21 |
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szabgab |
that of the document |
| 13:21 |
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szabgab |
should be |
| 13:21 |
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szabgab |
...used to be... |
| 13:22 |
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azawawi |
it is aint so now for sure... |
| 13:22 |
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submersible1 |
that is odd. |
| 13:22 |
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azawawi |
change it from preferences and re-open the file... |
| 13:22 |
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submersible1 |
on many levels |
| 13:24 |
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azawawi |
if i open a file, it should tell me UNIX/WIN32/MAC or MIXED right? |
| 13:24 |
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submersible1 |
it is that of the document... but does not seem to track with undo.... |
| 13:27 |
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submersible1 |
broken here |
| 13:28 |
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* azawawi |
prepares a ticket |
| 13:28 |
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submersible1 |
azawawi: that label changes in accord with the 'Convert EOL' behaviour... and saves correctly , the auto-detect when opening the file subsequently seems busted |
| 13:28 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, ping |
| 13:29 |
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azawawi |
submersible1: yeah but doesnt detect MIXED... |
| 13:29 |
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azawawi |
submersible1: what i want to achieve is display MIXED in a different color/warn about it... |
| 13:31 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: rakudo "Seattle" is going to be released tomorrow... |
| 13:31 |
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szabgab |
why are we using |
| 13:32 |
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szabgab |
'return undef' in so many places? |
| 13:32 |
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szabgab |
or at all? |
| 13:32 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i tested it in the morning, and so far it is builds/works... |
| 13:32 |
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szabgab |
azawawi, I am quite out of loop there |
| 13:32 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: ok later & |
| 13:33 |
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submersible1 |
<blink> ;) |
| 13:33 |
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submersible1 |
MIXED |
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submersible1 |
i'm out too |
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azawawi |
lol, must be the low-sugar condition im having... :) |
| 13:34 |
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submersible1 |
hopefully some swarm and index to come soon |
| 13:35 |
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submersible1 |
if Sewi is going for File::SSH ::FTP ... i wonder about how those activities are going to interrupt the editor without a full blown service thread behind them |
| 13:36 |
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azawawi |
submersible: where is submersible1? did it sink? :) |
| 13:40 |
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* azawawi |
sleep & |
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Sewi |
pong pong |
| 14:13 |
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Sewi |
submersible: I didn't decide if I'm going to create ::FTP myself :-) But I'm using sshfs atm and there is no big speed issue. |
| 14:15 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7927 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7927 |
| 14:15 |
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Hyppolit |
Changed Changes |
| 14:15 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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Getty |
awesome svn comment ;) |
| 14:18 |
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Getty |
or is that by the bot? dont know him so far :) |
| 14:19 |
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Getty |
no it really is :) btw Padre: awesome stuff, why i never heard of it before? already working with perl 1 1/2 year now and always searched for an IDE ready to go package for windows |
| 14:19 |
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Getty |
you must make more promo! |
| 14:20 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: It happend when creating a blank file. |
| 14:30 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7928 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7928 |
| 14:30 |
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Hyppolit |
Restored the default MIME-type for blank documents |
| 14:30 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
| 14:31 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7929 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7929 |
| 14:31 |
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Hyppolit |
Support for custom URLs served by plugins |
| 14:31 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
| 14:32 |
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Sewi |
karma C |
| 14:32 |
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Hyppolit |
Karma of C is 26 |
| 14:52 |
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szabgab |
Getty, the whole thing started a year ago |
| 14:52 |
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Getty |
oh cool ok |
| 14:52 |
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szabgab |
and only 2 month ago we got the first easy installer for windows |
| 14:52 |
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szabgab |
so there was not much to promote |
| 14:52 |
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Getty |
then here is your next fan |
| 14:52 |
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szabgab |
what OS ? |
| 14:53 |
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Getty |
windows, i prefer this for my workstation, even tho coding stuff for linux then mostly |
| 14:55 |
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szabgab |
good, just let us know what you like and what you don't like |
| 14:55 |
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szabgab |
and then we will point you out how to fix that ;-) |
| 14:56 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, I think all the mime detection should be in the Mimetypes files |
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Sewi |
szabgab: I gave it back on r7928, the only exception is a MIME-type known by the protocol (like HTTP). |
| 15:01 |
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szabgab |
thanks |
| 15:01 |
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szabgab |
still I think there is a comment above that function indicating that it was left there only for lazyness |
| 15:02 |
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szabgab |
so I think this should me moved to Padre::MimeTypes->_guess_mimetype |
| 15:02 |
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szabgab |
and that _guess_mimetype should be probably renamed to without _ |
| 15:03 |
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Sewi |
yes, it doesn't seem to be internal any longer |
| 15:07 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: good news. Today I looked at a ubuntu 9.04 install and a lot of perl + gtk2 is installed. We can easily create an installer for padre on ubuntu. Does anyone know how configure cpan with sane defaults non-interactively and if it's desired for padre to install padre modules on a local directory? |
| 15:08 |
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szabgab |
El_Che, look at how I did it in the XL code in our repository |
| 15:09 |
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szabgab |
I just created a CPAN configuration for my own purposes and used that |
| 15:09 |
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szabgab |
Perl-Dist-XL |
| 15:09 |
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El_Che |
in trunk? |
| 15:10 |
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szabgab |
yes |
| 15:11 |
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El_Che |
mycpan.pl |
| 15:12 |
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El_Che |
is it a root cpan? |
| 15:12 |
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El_Che |
I am thinking or we should use a root owned cpan or a use one |
| 15:12 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7930 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7930 |
| 15:12 |
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Hyppolit |
Got rid of the leading _ in Padre::MimeTypes::_guess_mimetype |
| 15:12 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
| 15:12 |
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El_Che |
the root is the easy way as I need root logins anyway to install de debs (wx etc) |
| 15:13 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: Move and rename done. |
| 15:15 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: Should I remove Document::guess_mimetype? It's document dependent and has no own detection code left. For me, it would be better to let it stay there than converting every caller to MimeTypes::guess_mimetype. |
| 15:20 |
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szabgab |
El_Che, I prefer local installs especially as you will run code from the internyet |
| 15:20 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, thanks |
| 15:21 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, you see the same lazy reason I had when I left it there ;-) |
| 15:21 |
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Sewi |
:-) |
| 15:22 |
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Sewi |
Someone should look over Padre::File and Padre::File::Local as it was my first completly new module for Padre and I'm sure there are things which are not good or could be better :-) |
| 15:22 |
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El_Che |
good point |
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szabgab |
Sewi, I don't like the return undef; things but as I can see padre has lots of those |
| 15:24 |
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szabgab |
and I also don't like the A and B; style code I think it is clearer to write if (A) { B } |
| 15:24 |
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El_Che |
szabgab: out of the box on Ubuntu we can do things like thise for the installer: http://nxadm.files.wordpress.c[…]dre_installer.png |
| 15:24 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: undef is used as a "no result" default. |
| 15:25 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, I know but if someone takes the call in array context it will be tru |
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szabgab |
true |
| 15:25 |
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szabgab |
as a one element list |
| 15:25 |
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Sewi |
ok, but what should be returned else? |
| 15:26 |
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szabgab |
return; |
| 15:26 |
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Sewi |
nothing (return;) should be undef but no array-element? |
| 15:26 |
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Sewi |
ok |
| 15:27 |
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szabgab |
and I think it would be nice if you went over the whole padre codebase and cleaned this up elsewhere too |
| 15:27 |
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szabgab |
after some checking that it is really ok to do so :-) |
| 15:27 |
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Sewi |
Just a question of time :-) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7931 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7931 |
| 15:28 |
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Hyppolit |
return nothing instead of undef |
| 15:28 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ |
| 15:34 |
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Sewi |
Though it would be more... |
| 15:34 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7932 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7932 |
| 15:34 |
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Hyppolit |
Removed 20 return undef's for szabgab :-) |
| 15:34 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Transform/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 15:35 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, thank you :-) |
| 15:35 |
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Sewi |
you're welcome. |
| 15:39 |
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Sewi |
I guess, $Padre::File::Filename, ::error and ::MIME should use XS::Accessor, but I have no clue how to do this. Do you want to take a look at it? |
| 15:41 |
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szabgab |
later & # dinner |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7933 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7933 |
| 15:56 |
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Hyppolit |
Bugfix: Missing ; |
| 15:56 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
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azawawi |
szabgab: take a look at this http://www.slideshare.net/jere[…]tate-of-jquery-09 |
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kthakore |
hi there |
| 18:15 |
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kthakore |
is it possible to install padre on top of an existing strawberry install? |
| 18:16 |
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kthakore |
my cpan install fails because the Alien::WxWidget cannot download the sources |
| 18:16 |
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kthakore |
anyone? |
| 18:18 |
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azawawi |
kthakore: yeah it sure works... |
| 18:18 |
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azawawi |
kthakore: <cpan> look Alien::wxWidgets |
| 18:19 |
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kthakore |
ok |
| 18:19 |
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azawawi |
kthakore: $ make clean |
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azawawi |
sorry |
| 18:19 |
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azawawi |
kthakore: $ dmake clean |
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azawawi |
and $ perl Makefile.PL; make |
| 18:20 |
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azawawi |
why could it download the sources btw? |
| 18:20 |
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kthakore |
firewallz of hell |
| 18:20 |
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azawawi |
if things keep failing, you can download it manually and place it in that directory... |
| 18:20 |
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kthakore |
and Alien::wxWidget won't accept my http_proxy settings |
| 18:21 |
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kthakore |
I have the same problem with Alien""SDL |
| 18:21 |
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azawawi |
kthakore: an easier option is to download the new 0.45 msi |
| 18:21 |
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azawawi |
kthakore: how is the alien::sdl over win32 effort going? |
| 18:22 |
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kthakore |
its good |
| 18:22 |
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kthakore |
give it a shot |
| 18:22 |
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kthakore |
if no firefwallzz of hell |
| 18:22 |
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kthakore |
perl -MCPAN -e "install SDL" |
| 18:22 |
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kthakore |
oh |
| 18:22 |
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kthakore |
perl -MCPAN -e "install Alien::SDL" first |
| 18:23 |
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kthakore |
I took out the deps for some packaging issues |
| 18:23 |
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kthakore |
next relase should fix it |
| 18:24 |
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azawawi |
cool |
| 18:24 |
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azawawi |
looking forward to play that game :) |
| 18:24 |
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kthakore |
Tetris? |
| 18:24 |
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kthakore |
did garu tell everyone ? |
| 18:24 |
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azawawi |
frozen bubble |
| 18:25 |
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kthakore |
oh |
| 18:25 |
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kthakore |
thats far for windows |
| 18:25 |
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kthakore |
there is bsd socket code that I have to replace for windows |
| 18:25 |
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* kthakore |
remembers --shudder-- socket code --shudder-- |
| 18:26 |
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kthakore |
azsorry |
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azawawi |
no problem |
| 18:27 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: its a long haul for that |
| 18:27 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: I think I will be here though |
| 18:28 |
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kthakore |
I like perl community like a drug now |
| 18:28 |
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kthakore |
:) |
| 18:29 |
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azawawi |
it is moving faster now than before |
| 18:29 |
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azawawi |
2010 is going to be Perl 6 is here... |
| 18:30 |
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azawawi |
parrot has sdl bindings btw |
| 18:30 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: also Perl ppl like noobs ... unlike other places ... |
| 18:30 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: yup we will be fixing those too |
| 18:31 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: have you see our roadmap? |
| 18:31 |
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azawawi |
where is it? |
| 18:31 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: 3.5 ( mid 2010 I think) we start PerlNCI for 5 and 6 |
| 18:31 |
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kthakore |
so same XS or NCI for hopefully parrot and perl 5 |
| 18:32 |
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kthakore |
that way one code base essentially |
| 18:33 |
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azawawi |
nci is cooler than xs |
| 18:33 |
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azawawi |
in xs you have to deal with internals |
| 18:33 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: I have not decided either way because I have coded it yet |
| 18:33 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: internals are cool to I hthink |
| 18:34 |
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azawawi |
parrot is the way to go in the long run |
| 18:34 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: http://wiki.github.com/kthakore/SDL_perl is the link when github is back from the DDos attacks |
| 18:35 |
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azawawi |
who DDos-ing github? so lame lol |
| 18:35 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: I don't make predictions for the future that way I am never wrong |
| 18:36 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: ppl |
| 18:36 |
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kthakore |
azawawi: ok this suxs |
| 18:36 |
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kthakore |
garu: we are going to have to move code base from github |
| 18:36 |
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kthakore |
wth! |
| 18:37 |
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kthakore |
window 2 |
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kthakore |
hi |
| 19:31 |
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kthakore |
is it possible to see two files next to each out in padre |
| 19:31 |
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kthakore |
I do split window but it doesn't work |
| 19:31 |
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szabgab |
it is broken |
| 19:31 |
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szabgab |
unlock the GUI |
| 19:32 |
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kthakore |
szabgab: huh? |
| 19:32 |
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szabgab |
View/Lock User Interface |
| 19:32 |
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kthakore |
ahh ok |
| 19:32 |
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szabgab |
and then I think you can arrange the windows |
| 19:32 |
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kthakore |
still can't split windows |
| 19:33 |
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szabgab |
you still cannot open the same file twice (which would be split windows) |
| 19:34 |
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kthakore |
I want do two different fiels next to eachother |
| 19:34 |
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kthakore |
ala vsplit |
| 19:34 |
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szabgab |
hmm, strange I remember it worked a long time ago, but maybe I am mistaken |
| 19:34 |
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szabgab |
the "split window" is something else but apparently this does not work eihter |
| 19:34 |
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szabgab |
go back in time 6 months |
| 19:35 |
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kthakore |
yay bug report!!! |
| 19:35 |
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kthakore |
workaround is go back in time 6 months |
| 19:35 |
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kthakore |
cannot replicate workaorund |
| 19:37 |
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* kthakore |
goes back to his lovely vim .... |
| 19:37 |
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kthakore |
thanks though |
| 20:07 |
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El_Che |
you'll be back |
| 20:07 |
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El_Che |
:) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7934 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7934 |
| 21:08 |
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Hyppolit |
russian blog entry by Andrew Shitov |
| 21:08 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
| 21:20 |
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rindolf |
Hi all. |
| 21:20 |
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rindolf |
http://www.shlomifish.org/hama[…]winners-eng.xhtml - Please review this. |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r7935 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/7935 |
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Hyppolit |
Fixed a use of uninitlized value when there is nothing to replace. |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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Sewi |
good night |
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kthakore |
congrats szabgab you deserve it!!! |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: hi |
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CSJewell |
hello. |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: whats up |
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CSJewell |
Not too much - doing the last little bit of cleaning on my code before I start building a beta of Strawberry tomorrow. |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: I had a question about that actually |
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