Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2009-10-01

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00:55 Alias For the record, I think the data that Sewi added (counts of which menu entries people use) is just fine from a privacy perspective
00:55 Alias Likewise, I have no problem of sending plugin usage information
00:56 Alias I have a bigger problem with adding the modules you use
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05:38 Sewi good morning
05:38 Alias hi
05:38 Alias Sewi: For the record, I'm quite happy with the extra data you are collecting
05:38 Alias Menu usage shouldn't be a big deal at all
05:39 Sewi Alias: It's done.
05:39 Alias You could probably also capture a fairly large percentage of the HUMAN-backend config entries
05:39 Sewi Currently there is difference between menu, shortcut and quick menu launch of a function, but the system is already counting the menu function usage.
05:40 Alias The things that capture user preferences versus the system setup
05:40 Sewi Here is a sample what is there: Nachrichtenliste
05:40 Sewi URL: /dialog/history
05:40 Sewi Template ? Dateien: dialog_history, list
05:40 Sewi Die History (Nachrichten ? Liste) beinhaltet alle noch gespeicherten Nachrichten, die den �bergebenen Kriterien entsprechen.
05:40 Sewi Folgende Parameter k�nnen dieser Seite als Filterkriterien �bergeben werden, es werden alle Nachrichten des gew�hlten Dialoges angezeigt, bei denen alle Parameter mit dem Wert der entsprechenden Variable des Message ? Objektes �bereinstimmen:
05:40 Sewi ?ID
05:40 Sewi ?From
05:40 Sewi ?To
05:40 Sewi ?Ungelesen
05:40 Sewi Der ID ? Parameter mu� die ID des Dialoges enthalten.
05:40 Sewi Folgende Variablen stehen zur Verf�gung:
05:40 Sewi NameTypBeschreibungP
05:40 Sewi DialogObjektDas Dialog ? Objekt enth�lt alle Daten zum aktuellen DialogJ
05:40 Sewi ListObjektEine Liste der Message ? Objekte zum aktuellen DialogJ
05:40 Sewi PartnerObjektDas Profil des DialogpartnersJ
05:40 Sewi ProfilObjektDas eigene Profil im DialogJ
05:40 Sewi sorry
05:40 Alias whoa, spam
05:40 Sewi http://pastebin.ca/1583243
05:40 Sewi Yeah, clipboard didn't get the new content (pastebin-URL) :-( Sorry
05:42 Alias You know, capturing usage via hotkey vs menu vs toolbar is probably worthwhile anyway
05:44 Sewi Alias: The current hotkey handling is done by the menu. If there is a chance to capture the difference calling methods, I'ld be happy to see what people use.
05:44 Alias We can implement it later, no biggie
05:44 Sewi We could also give hints based on this: You didn't use the toolbar for (last 5000 actions|30 days), do you want to disable it?
05:46 Sewi I'ld really like to hear your opinion about #621
05:46 Hyppolit #621: Did you know? Startup - notes (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/621 ]
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05:56 Alias I, for one, hate those "Did you Know" things
05:57 Alias Most of the time they just get in the way
05:57 Sewi Me too (mostly), but they're one-click-and-it's-gone-forever and we got so many things in Padre people don't know.
05:58 Alias I think there might be better ways
05:58 Alias Something more deeply integrated into the beginner system
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09:08 Hyppolit #624: cannot type in empty document (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/624 ]
09:10 patspam why would I get: Can't locate object method "GetArtProvider" via package "Padre::Wx::Notebook"
09:10 patspam when calling $main->notebook->GetArtProvider
09:11 patspam isn't Notebook a wxAuiNotebook?
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09:11 Sewi patspam: Look at the ISA-Line in the pm
09:12 Hyppolit #625: Padre crashes on save-as .pir (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/625 ]
09:13 patspam Sewi: it's a Wx::AuiNotebook but also multi-inheritance (Padre::Wx::Role::MainChild)
09:13 patspam I'm still learning how to translate between perl land and the wx docs
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09:20 patspam but doesn't make sense to me because wxAuiNotebook::GetArtProvider is listed in the 2.8.9 docs
09:20 Hyppolit #624: cannot type in empty document (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/624#comment:1 ]
09:27 Hyppolit svn: r8472 | patspam++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8472
09:27 Hyppolit Padre::Plugin::WebGUI now with tab icons
09:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-WebGUI/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-WebGUI/​lib/Padre/Document/WebGUI/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-WebGUI/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-WebGUI/lib/Padre/Plugin/WebGUI/
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10:33 zuismanm Do some one know - why I can't connect this channel using ordinary irc client???
10:36 Sewi zuismanm: Using "irc.perl.org" as the server should work - do you get any error message?
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10:44 zuismanm Yes - it something like failed to connect...
10:45 zuismanm What is port and password - that I have to use?? (I am using Bersirc)
10:46 zuismanm I get: *** Error looking up hostname.
10:46 zuismanm *** Connection failed.
10:49 zuismanm Actually - I beging to think - may be it is due to Company firewall???
10:56 daxim they will likely block outgoing port 6667
11:00 zuismanm Ok - so - I will remain with web interface... I like it less , but - it seems - I have no many optioons...:-)
11:04 Sewi zuismanm: You could set up a socket proxy outside your company network and use this one to connect, if you're allowed to connect to it
11:27 Sewi daxim: Did you have the ProcessStream-problem yesterday?
11:27 daxim no, downgrading didn't help, I tried 18, 19, 20
11:27 daxim if the author reads his test results, he's aware of the bug
11:28 Sewi daxim: I'm sorry, I just noticed that I'm not running 0.18, I'm running 0.11 - and this works
11:29 daxim indeed 0.11 works - but it doesn't have useful tests, either
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11:40 rindolf Hi all.
11:41 daxim it's you.
11:41 rindolf In the IRC flesh.
11:42 Sewi daxim: sure, it should have useful tests, but to me it's more important that it's running - otherwise I wouldn't be able to use Padre.
11:43 daxim is MDOOTSON on relay chat?
11:46 Hyppolit svn: r8473 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8473
11:46 Hyppolit Added session to title bar (first step to finish title bar)
11:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
11:54 Hyppolit svn: r8474 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8474
11:54 Hyppolit Perl tidy
11:54 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
12:05 Alias patspam: You may have hit one of the places where a C method exists which isn't wrapped by a Perl equivalent
12:05 Alias BTW, awesome job on the tab icons
12:06 Alias You kick the rest of the project's ass in the pretty stakes once again
12:06 Alias zuismanm: I have the same issue, corporate firewalls often block IRC because virus botnets use it
12:22 El_Che corporates firewalls force you to use a proxy, most of which tunnel ssh fine :)
12:30 zuismanm Do you know some such proxy??? They also block here all sites with lists of proxies...:-(
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12:40 Sewi Do you have a server/vserver somewhere?
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12:48 zuismanm No - only option - to connect some public/accesable proxy server
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14:14 Alias You can't connect to the normal cpan repository?
14:14 Alias Most normal work places allow it
14:29 GabrielVieira Alias do you have and Padre slides!? :D
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14:41 Sewi GabrielVieira: There was a presentation... http://www.perl-workshop.de/talks/155/view Either szabgab (who was announced as speaker) or Steffen M�ller (is he tsee?) should have the slides.
14:41 Alias GabrielVieira: I have nothing
14:42 GabrielVieira szabgab is missing :~
14:42 GabrielVieira tsee either
14:42 Alias I've got a conference at the end of November, I'll write up something for then
14:42 GabrielVieira Alias: thanks :)
14:42 Sewi He was seen here yesterday :-)
14:42 Alias But nothing right now
14:42 GabrielVieira Was he?!
14:42 GabrielVieira All keep my eyes here
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15:17 rindolf Was the diversity statement corrected yet?
15:19 Hyppolit #626: use lib '.' not handled properly by syntax checker (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/626 ]
15:25 Hyppolit #627: Suggestion: Make it possible to copy 'Syntax Check' messages (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/627 ]
15:49 Hyppolit #626: use lib '.' not handled properly by syntax checker (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/626#comment:1 ]
15:49 Sewi ping floyd-atc
15:49 Alias rindolf: I moved the code of conduct stuff before it, so it looks a little less icky
15:49 Alias Not entirely better though
15:50 rindolf Alias: ah.
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17:17 Hyppolit svn: r8475 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8475
17:17 Hyppolit some logging calls
17:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
17:19 Hyppolit svn: r8476 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8476
17:19 Hyppolit bot PIR and PASM syntax highlighter use external doc object
17:19 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Parrot/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Parrot/lib/Padre/Document/
17:22 Hyppolit #625: Padre crashes on save-as .pir (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/625#comment:1 ]
17:28 Hyppolit svn: r8477 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8477
17:28 Hyppolit add link to blog of patspam
17:28 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
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21:56 Hyppolit #628: Crash on run (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/628 ]
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22:27 dolmen Alias: could you release YAML.pm ? See https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=25434
22:27 dolmen I committed the bug fix
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