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00:00 Alias Well, you're finally starting to make some headway into my repository's lead :)
00:00 Alias Now down to 850 behind
00:01 Alias Also, someone really needs to get phillipadsmith an account
00:01 Alias Can we make many more trac admins or something, so this stops being a problem
00:03 Hyppolit #677: Win32 launcher: embed Perl (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/677 ]
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00:14 mattp Alias: hey!
00:14 mattp I think I'd like to dedicate myself to that idea of the foxmarks-alike for padre project idea we discussed yesterday
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00:18 mattp if thats alright :)
00:18 Hyppolit #677: Win32 launcher: embed Perl (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/677#comment:1 ]
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01:00 Alias mattp: That would be awesome
01:00 Alias It's one of my most drooled over features
01:00 Alias I use about 4 computers on a regular basis, and I've always hated sync
01:01 Alias Plus, every time I upgraded Ultraedit, it always lost my settings
01:17 mattp Alias: would i be working mostly with you for figuring out the specifics on the requirements?
01:19 mattp im actually pretty pumped, im glad I can work on something people can find useful as opposed to them making me do something dumb :)
01:34 Alias Yep, I own the configuration system pretty much
01:34 Alias So I'm happy to mentor
01:36 Alias And I'm super-excited to see my blue sky dream become something real :)
01:48 mattp sweet.
01:49 mattp were you planning on keeping everything pureperl re: server?
01:49 mattp I'm going to have to do some research I've never really done any wor like this before
01:51 Alias Yeah, it needs to be Perl
01:52 Alias So it can be maintained properly
01:52 Alias The server should actually be really simple
01:52 Alias Most of the smarts are in the config file and config module design
01:52 Alias Well, will be
01:52 Alias I've put some of the foundations in place, but never really done the real work
01:52 Alias I know it's theoretically possible, just haven't ever tried to finish the design
01:59 mattp cool beans :) we'll be in touch then. I'm going to put together a project proposal this weekend
02:01 Alias Excellent
02:02 Alias When you're ready grab me and we can have a chat about the "business" requirements
02:07 mattp sounds good
02:30 Alias Do you have commit yet?
02:31 mattp nope! this is my first foray into padre
02:32 Alias We should fix that
02:32 Alias Stupid registration process
02:32 Alias DAMMIT NOT ENOUGH TRAC ADMINS
02:32 Alias BTW, where are you physically?
02:32 Alias I'm usually on my own here during Asiapac morning/lunch
02:32 mattp ontario canada
02:33 mattp so -5 eastern
02:35 Alias So basically, you're up late living the university lifestyle? :)
02:35 * Alias is Sydney +10
02:37 mattp haha nah not usually. im on the 9-5 schedule but im around msot of the day
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03:09 * Alias ponders rewriting Padre's locking system
03:09 Alias I need something to do that is achievable in bite-sized pieces, will improve lots of places nobody cares about, and is structurally elegant
03:14 Alias mattp: BTW, once you are locked in to proceed we should also sort you out so you/I can blog details as we go
03:15 mattp Alias: yep sure. ive already got a cpan account (so thats a start)
03:15 Alias excellent
03:15 mattp we'll have to look into things tomorrow/saturday though, as im about to head to bed :)
03:16 Alias Of course
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03:16 mattp goodnight
03:16 Alias night
03:20 Hyppolit #678: VACUUM the configuration database at shutdown (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/678 ]
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04:02 Hyppolit #679: Trac Component additions (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/679 ]
04:06 Hyppolit #680: Make readonly files visually distinct via different background (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/680 ]
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06:20 Sewi good morning
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06:35 Hyppolit svn: r8701 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8701
06:35 Hyppolit Updated Padre Launcher from ticket #677 (dolmen++)
06:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/script/
06:36 Hyppolit #677: Win32 launcher: embed Perl (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/677#comment:2 ]
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08:50 dolmen Please revert [8701]. See #677.
08:50 Hyppolit #677: Win32 launcher: embed Perl (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/677#comment:3 ]
08:50 Hyppolit #677: Win32 launcher: embed Perl (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/677#comment:3 ]
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11:40 dolmen Please revert [8701]. See #677.
11:40 Hyppolit #677: Win32 launcher: embed Perl (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/677#comment:3 ]
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12:10 Sewi hi
12:10 Alias hi
12:16 daxim hi
12:17 daxim Alias, once RT 50343 is accepted I can fix up File::HomeDir::Unix
12:18 Alias hrm?
12:18 daxim you wrote in that module that it's lame that it defaults to the home dir only for "Music" directory etc.
12:19 daxim RT 50343 is a patch against the appropriate module dealing with that, and F::H can later depend on that
12:19 Alias ok
12:21 Hyppolit #675: false positives (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/675#comment:1 ]
12:42 dolmen Sewi: please revert [8701]. See #677.
12:42 Hyppolit #677: Win32 launcher: embed Perl (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/677#comment:3 ]
12:58 Sewi dolmen: It works better than the previous and we won't have a release before Thu :-)
12:58 Sewi I'll do...
13:06 Hyppolit svn: r8702 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8702
13:06 Hyppolit revert r8701
13:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/script/
13:08 dolmen the problem is that the new padre.exe is hard linked to the Perl you used to build it.
13:08 dolmen so if you distribute it in binary form, it will not work with ActivePerl
13:09 dolmen (if you built it with Strawberry)
13:09 Sewi I did.
13:09 dolmen ok
13:09 Sewi So we need to do apadre.exe and spadre.exe :-)
13:10 dolmen that it why my plan is to build padre.exe at install time if a build succeed, or use the old perl-independent one else.
13:11 dolmen we would only distribute the old one as binary
13:12 Alias Indeed
13:12 Alias (Build locally)++
13:12 szbalint think globally
13:12 szbalint :)
13:13 dolmen Sewi: remove build.PL too as it is irrelevant, and would confuse a developer
13:14 dolmen karma (Build locally)
13:14 dolmen ;)
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13:27 Hyppolit svn: r8703 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8703
13:27 Hyppolit Remove build.PL (#677)
13:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/script/
13:27 Sewi Sorry, I removed it but it wasn't included in the last commit
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13:38 kthakore hello people
13:38 Alias hi
13:38 kthakore hi Alias
13:39 kthakore is there a reason with split window doesn't work on WIndows + 0.47
13:39 kthakore /s/with/why
13:40 Alias Because it didn't work and we've now removed the feature entirely
13:40 kthakore awww
13:40 Sewi kthakore: But you're welcome to develop a working version :-)
13:41 kthakore yay where can I hack?
13:41 kthakore I like splitiness
13:41 kthakore vim style
13:41 Sewi svn checkout the trunk
13:41 szabgab the split window worked sort of about 6 month ago
13:41 Sewi Do you have a trac account?
13:41 kthakore where was the old feature I meant in the source
13:41 kthakore szabgab: I remeber
13:42 szabgab so you might want to dig the code out from there
13:42 szabgab and see how it was done
13:42 Sewi http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8393
13:42 szabgab r8393 ?
13:42 Hyppolit Changeset #8393 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8393
13:42 szabgab :-)
13:42 Sewi Sorry, here was the feature itself: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8348
13:43 kthakore thanks
13:43 kthakore szabgab: may I please register on trac?
13:43 Sewi And here is the SVN info: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download#​Moredetailedinstructionformanualinstallation
13:43 kthakore Sewi: I am familiar with it
13:43 szabgab kthakore, ask Alias, he should train himself :-)
13:44 kthakore szabgab: I am trying to get Alias to learn git too for frozenbubble hackages
13:44 kthakore Alias: hurry up an learn :P
13:45 kthakore ooh I am hacking padre in padre lol
13:46 Sewi kthakore: This is what we usually do :-)
13:46 Sewi But you shouldn't close your "dev" window as you might not be able to restart it if you did a typo or so. :-)
13:47 kthakore Sewi: let me clarify I am hacking SVN padre in stable 0.47 CPAN Padre
13:48 szabgab kthakore, that's not cool, the real cool thing is to edit it with the SVN version of padre
13:48 Sewi Don't use stable versions... no risk, no fun :-) (And I don't want to wait for the release to use thing I did myself :-) ).
13:48 szabgab real bleeding edge :-)
13:49 kthakore szabgab: bah ... I ain't mavericks like you youngun'
13:49 kthakore wth ... work won't let me get SVN ...
13:49 szabgab actuall I used to have setup the run method to run padre so I could launch padre from withing padre
13:49 kthakore is there a autogenerate tarball somewhere
13:52 kthakore oh well I will have to look into this later
13:52 kthakore thanks
13:54 Alias kthakore: I'm a teensy bit busy
13:54 Alias My list of things to finish in the next 6 weeks
13:54 Alias Between now and the end of November I have to build a website for my sisters wedding, nurse one of the largest logistics chains in the country through to an overhaul, build an entry in the apps4nsw $100,000 competition, write a talk on Padre for the Open Source developers conference, go to Canberra for the GovHack conference
13:55 Alias Oh, and start organisation for an All Language Open Source Software Repository Summit as OSCON 2010
13:55 Alias Those are the major important ones
13:55 Alias Then I have all the OTHER things I need to do
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14:00 Sewi Alias: Sounds like a typical TODO list :-)
14:02 Alias Sure, it's just that I only have a 6week window for it
14:02 Alias And most of the deadlines are hard
14:03 Alias Nice things about installing Padre stable btw
14:03 Alias So that when you DO kill your dev.pl, you have a fallback at least :)
14:03 Alias Then you switch back once it starts
14:08 Sewi My installed stable is 0.40
14:08 Sewi Quite ugly if you start it by accident and see what is missing :-)
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14:17 Hyppolit svn: r8704 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8704
14:17 Hyppolit Reverting Changes :-(
14:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
14:24 dolmen hey!
14:25 dolmen Sewi: My previous launcher is still in the trunk! Don't remove the credits!
14:30 Sewi Oh, sorry.
14:30 Hyppolit svn: r8705 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8705
14:30 Hyppolit Reverted reverted Changes :-)
14:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
14:32 Hyppolit #679: Trac Component additions (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/679#comment:1 ]
14:43 dapatrick I'm having problems building Padre now.
14:43 dapatrick Dies with "script/padre.c:8:21: error: windows.h: No such file or directory"
14:44 dapatrick This is during make, at 'cc   -L/usr/local/lib  script/padre.c   -o script/padre'
14:44 dapatrick This probably shouldn't be attempting to build the Windows .exe on Linux.
14:44 dapatrick (I'm on Ubuntu(
14:44 dapatrick )
14:48 kthakore hi
14:51 kthakore When I do run test how do I get it to perl Makefile.PL and dmake build first?
14:52 Sewi write it in the test
14:52 dolmen Sewi, dapatrick: My launcher should have been committed in PadreLauncher, not in Padre/script
14:52 Sewi The test is a Perl script - it could do system "perl Mak
14:53 Sewi "perl Makefile.PL";
14:53 kthakore so
14:53 kthakore chdir '../';
14:53 kthakore syste`perl Makefile.pl; damek`
14:53 kthakore chdir t?
14:54 kthakore why can't padre do this?
14:55 Sewi But shouldn't it be build during "make"? Usually it's "make" and then "make test".
14:56 dolmen Sewi: no, this is the "old" launcher that we distribute as binary: Padre/script contains only "padre" and "padre.exe".
14:56 Hyppolit svn: r8706 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8706
14:56 Hyppolit Clean up files
14:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/script/ trunk/PadreLauncher/
14:57 dolmen Sewi: "padre.exe" is built in PadreLauncher/ and copied by the developer who updates its source into Padre/script
14:57 kthakore Sewi: I like beign able to do F5 fore lest
14:57 kthakore for testing
14:57 Sewi dolmen: I left padre.ico there, maybe people find it easier... We could remove it anyway if it's not wanted there
14:58 Sewi kthakore: You could do F5 to start your script.
14:59 kthakore fine ...
15:02 Hyppolit svn: r8707 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8707
15:02 Hyppolit Fixed translation key-shortcut bugs
15:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
15:03 kthakore Sewi: ok this is bull ... even MSVC compiles (makes) a project before testing a module
15:04 kthakore and MSVC is t he worst editor out there
15:04 Sewi But afaih it should be the best C IDE...
15:04 kthakore Sewi: is it something you guys decided on not doing
15:04 kthakore Sewi: bollock thats vim :)
15:05 Sewi kthakore: I don't develop C, doesn't matter which \W+ follows it, so I don't really care :-)
15:06 Sewi kthakore: The build process should be done during "make" which is forced before make test could start any test
15:07 kthakore I understand
15:07 kthakore but if I am doing TDD
15:07 kthakore I write a test to fail
15:07 kthakore I run it using F5
15:07 kthakore it fails
15:07 kthakore now I hack to pass test
15:07 kthakore I click F5 to test
15:08 Sewi ok, now I understand what you mean...
15:08 kthakore STILL FAILS because
15:08 kthakore no one ever did dmake again!!!!!
15:08 Sewi I though you were still talking about the padre.exe issue we had earlier.
15:08 kthakore Sewi: this breaks my workflow like hellllll
15:08 kthakore I have to open a cmd (which I can't do from padre
15:09 kthakore broswe to long ass path
15:09 kthakore then dmake and test
15:09 kthakore F THAT
15:09 Sewi kthakore: Open Config.pm, Preferences.pm and Main.pm, add a Config option for "always run make before running a test", add it to the Preferences dialog and finally respect the value in Main.pm
15:09 kthakore thank you
15:09 Sewi Should be a 5-10 minutes job :-)
15:09 kthakore so its some thing you guys didn't decide not to do
15:09 Sewi No, it's a really good idea.
15:10 kthakore ok this has pissed me off so much I have to contribute
15:10 Sewi But we either need a ticket on it or someone should write it. As I'm currently fighting actions and menus and you're requesting it, I tried to get you involved :-)
15:10 kthakore NERDRAGE is largest contributer to OpenSource I beleive
15:10 kthakore I need to register then
15:11 kthakore I will make the ticket
15:11 Sewi ping szabgab || garu || Ryan52
15:11 szabgab Sewi, also add Alias to that list
15:11 Sewi Alias escaped before he could be forced to do it :-)
15:12 Sewi szabgab: I saw him disappearing, this is why I didn't cry for him :-)
15:12 szabgab reg page is open http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register
15:13 szabgab kthakore, no excuses now, go and register
15:13 Sewi kthakore: Just to clarify this: There is a "run command" function in Padre's run-menu, shortcut should be Ctrl-F5.
15:13 garu kthakore, yay!
15:13 kthakore garu: NERDRAGE TDD BROKEN
15:14 kthakore SOMETHING IS WRONG I NEED TO FIX NAO!!!
15:14 garu :)
15:14 kthakore give me the codez ppl
15:15 kthakore can I reserver ctrl-F6 or something for this
15:15 dapatrick make works fine again; thanks Sewi.
15:16 Sewi dapatrick: Sorry for mixing it up, I'm no C guy, I just committed it :-)
15:16 kthakore Sewi: I cannot find Padre::Preferences.pm or Padre::Main.pm
15:17 dapatrick np
15:17 Sewi kthakore: one moment please...
15:17 kthakore Sewi: note I am on 0.47 CPAN because my asshole work comp has svn blocked
15:17 kthakore Sewi: np
15:17 kthakore sorry
15:18 Sewi kthakore: They already existed there, just looking for the complete paths...
15:19 Sewi Padre/Config.pm Padre/Wx/Dialog/Preferences.pm and Padre/Wx/Main.pm
15:19 kthakore thanks
15:19 Sewi While Main.pm is a guess, if the run isn't done there, just look at Padre/Wx/Menu/Run.pm what is done on the Run command of your choice.
15:20 Hyppolit svn: r8708 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8708
15:20 Hyppolit Added comments and fixed a comment. Maybe a native speaker should look over this and continue the job...
15:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/
15:21 kthakore szabgab: register fail OperationalError: database is locked
15:21 szabgab let me check
15:22 kthakore and my user is now used but I can't login
15:23 dapatrick I have a quick user question.
15:23 dapatrick A while back a portion of the Ecliptic plugin was integrated into core.
15:23 szabgab kthakore, try to ask it to send you the pw
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15:23 kthakore ok
15:24 dapatrick Specifically C-Shift-R to open a file by searching through the current project.
15:24 dapatrick Before the integration was made, when I would invoke that key stroke and search for a file name, the path in which that file lived was also displayed.
15:24 szabgab dapatrick, yes
15:24 dapatrick it is no longer displayed.
15:25 dapatrick I have  project in which I have three ServiceRegistration.pm files, but in different packages, and therefore paths.
15:25 dapatrick But I can no longer tell which is which because the path isn't displayed.
15:25 kthakore crap ... my cpan.org email is not working again ...
15:25 dapatrick Is there anyway that the path could be brought back into that search pane?
15:26 dapatrick Am I missing a preference, or is coding involved in making that happen?
15:26 szabgab dapatrick, I don't think so but it is the field of azawawi , the best i guess would be to open a ticket
15:26 szabgab or wait till he comes back
15:26 Sewi dapatrick: I don't think it's a preference.
15:26 dapatrick Okay.
15:27 dapatrick He's UTC+11 or so, right?
15:27 dapatrick or +7.
15:27 szabgab GMT + 2
15:27 dapatrick Oh, okay.
15:27 dapatrick Thanks alot.
15:27 szabgab he might be back in an hour or so
15:27 dapatrick I'll hang out and try to catch him online, and also submit a ticket.
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15:28 Hyppolit #411: configurable key bindings (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/411#comment:3 ]
15:41 Hyppolit svn: r8709 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8709
15:41 Hyppolit Move refactoring actions from menu to Padre::Action-Namespace
15:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
15:41 Hyppolit svn: r8710 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8710
15:41 Hyppolit Add refactoring actions
15:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
15:44 Hyppolit svn: r8711 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8711
15:44 Hyppolit Added a use
15:44 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/
15:51 Ryan52 Sewi: still need me?
15:52 Ryan52 ah nevermind.
15:52 Sewi Ryan52: We always need you :-)
15:52 Sewi But if you got a few minutes, it would be nice if you could look at the newest comment of #411...
15:52 Hyppolit #411: configurable key bindings (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/411#comment:3 ]
15:55 szabgab Ryan52, hi, long time not seen :-)
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16:06 mib_sw3nf8 suffering the Padre::Plugin::Vi bug,  Crashed while loading: Bareword "Padre::Util::WXGTK" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/Padre/Plugin/Vi.pm
16:06 Sewi Hi mib_sw3nf8, which Padre version are you using?
16:06 mib_sw3nf8 already made Module-Install-PadrePlugin
16:06 mib_sw3nf8 0.47
16:07 mib_sw3nf8 Hi Sewi.
16:07 mib_sw3nf8 box is ubuntu 9.04 amd-64
16:07 szabgab mib_sw3nf8, you know you can have a nicer nick if you type   /nick my_new_nick
16:08 dapatrick NIce.
16:08 Sewi Please look at the trac database if there is a ticket for it on http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ and open one if there is none.
16:08 szabgab I am quite sure the released vi plugin is old like ... well, very old
16:09 szabgab and someone should took it over from me, release a new version and then start fixing it..
16:10 szabgab or should "take" it over
16:12 lsm thank you szabgab
16:12 szabgab lsm, maybe you should try to use the vi plugin from our svn repo
16:12 rindolf Hi all.
16:13 rindolf Did I miss any Padre release?
16:13 lsm just using cpan.  will look at svn, thanks.
16:18 szabgab family visit &
16:20 Sewi I need to "require" a module which "use"s another module, but the other module must not "use" a third module. Any ideas how to do this?
16:22 daxim "show me the codez"
16:23 daxim coderefs in INC can accomplish that, a la Test::Without::Module
16:23 daxim but probably there's a better way
16:25 Sewi daxim: This is what is not working :-(
16:25 daxim then show the codez, srsly
16:26 Sewi here
16:26 Hyppolit svn: r8712 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8712
16:26 Hyppolit First try of a action list tool
16:26 Hyppolit trunk/tools/
16:26 Sewi I tried it with a $INC{'Padre/Action.pm'} = 'internal'; in the global part, but it didn't work either.
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16:41 azawawi dapatrick: ping
16:42 azawawi dapatrick: you're using linux, right?
16:43 azawawi szabgab: watching season 7 (sg-1) :)
16:44 Sewi hi  azawawi
16:44 azawawi hi Sewi
16:44 dapatrick Hey, yep.
16:44 dapatrick Indeed, I'm using LInux.
16:45 Sewi Could you give me a hint, why $INC-overriding does not work? http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8712, it's the same if I define $INC{'Padre/Action.pm'} at the beginning :-(
16:45 dapatrick Padre trunk, and Ecliptic 0.18.
16:45 azawawi dapatrick: it is working on win32, so it is a bug with some wxevent not firing up on linux
16:45 dapatrick I'll show you what I get.
16:45 azawawi dapatrick: let me check it out then
16:46 * azawawi switches from entertainment to dev mode :)
16:52 dapatrick azawawi: http://darianpatrick.s3.amazonaws​.com/Screenshot-Open_Resource.png
16:53 azawawi figured out the problem... fixing
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16:55 dapatrick Awesome.
16:58 Hyppolit svn: r8713 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8713
16:58 Hyppolit [Padre] Fixed Open Resource status text display on Linux (dapatrick++)
16:58 Hyppolit [Padre] The funny thing SetLabel() works on win32
16:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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17:00 azawawi dapatrick: anything else? :)
17:00 Hyppolit svn: r8714 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8714
17:00 Hyppolit [Padre] el-Perl-o Tidy-o :)
17:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/
17:01 Hyppolit svn: r8715 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8715
17:01 Hyppolit [Padre] Updated Changes
17:01 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
17:02 dapatrick Nope, I think that's it.
17:02 dapatrick I'm svn update'ing now.
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17:02 Chelsea Hi everybody
17:03 dapatrick Hmm.
17:03 dapatrick It looks that didn't fix it.
17:03 dapatrick One second.
17:03 azawawi i tried it on ubuntu
17:04 dapatrick Ah, I see.
17:04 dapatrick Sorry.
17:04 azawawi padre vs perl dev.pl ?
17:04 dapatrick I was expecting it next to the file name.  I see it in the input field below.
17:04 dapatrick Swell!
17:04 dapatrick Thanks.
17:04 azawawi dapatrick: any ideas are welcome
17:05 azawawi dapatrick: please feel free to open tickets about it
17:05 dapatrick Okay.
17:05 dapatrick If I have any ideas I'll open a ticket.
17:05 dapatrick Thanks for fixing this so fast.
17:05 azawawi dapatrick: cool
17:05 azawawi dapatrick: i backlog every 1 hour :)
17:06 dapatrick Nice.
17:07 * azawawi back to entertainment mode :)
17:21 mattp hey guys
17:22 mattp why exactly does wx::alien force a local rebuild of wxwidgets as opposed to leaving it up to the user to do the upgrade?
17:38 ejb Hi, Wx::RadioBox's Enable() subroutine seems to be broken. How can I "skip" over the overridden sub and call the Wx::Window version instead?
17:40 ejb Just answered my own question: Wx::Window::Enable( $radiobox )
18:06 Hyppolit svn: r8716 | jquelin++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8716
18:06 Hyppolit updated french translation
18:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
18:06 Sewi mattp: I guess the local version is too old, we need pretty up-to-date versions of many dependencies :-(
18:54 Hyppolit svn: r8717 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8717
18:54 Hyppolit Saving another try before starting the third
18:54 Hyppolit trunk/tools/
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19:02 slicavoli923 Anyone run into a non standard windows install where volume letter is not C:\
19:02 slicavoli923 padre doesn't like to install without it
19:03 Sewi Hi slicavoli923
19:03 slicavoli923 hello
19:03 Sewi Did you get any error messages?
19:03 slicavoli923 oh yes
19:04 Sewi Did you use the strawberry-.msi - file, CPAN or the SVN version?
19:04 slicavoli923 strawberry
19:05 Sewi And where does it fail? Installation or Start of Padre?
19:05 slicavoli923 installation
19:05 slicavoli923 it cant find C:\
19:05 slicavoli923 so it aborts
19:06 Sewi Ok, wait a moment, please...
19:06 Sewi ping garu || Ryan52 || szabgab
19:06 Sewi These three (or Alias if someone sees him) could open the trac registration for you to file a bug report (ticket) on it.
19:07 Sewi Do you have any other Perl version installed?
19:08 garu heya
19:08 slicavoli923 no I don't
19:08 garu slicavoli923, do you want me to open registration for you to issue a ticket on this matter?
19:08 Sewi garu: Would you open trac registration for slicavoli923, please?
19:08 garu sure, just a minute
19:08 slicavoli923 well before we get to that
19:09 slicavoli923 a usb drive when active on this pc letters as c:\ the msi gives me a message that the drive is too small
19:10 slicavoli923 and suggest I  install it to another drive letter
19:10 slicavoli923 which it shows the two partitions that are available
19:10 slicavoli923 but it will not let me select a different drive
19:11 Sewi slicavoli923: It's best to file a ticket on this, because no one of the Strawberry parents is currently here.
19:11 slicavoli923 ok
19:11 slicavoli923 I can pull a cpan version
19:11 slicavoli923 if someone points me in the correct location
19:12 Sewi Please go to http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register and sign up (it's free, don't worry) as soon as garu opened the registration.
19:12 Sewi The CPAN package is called Padre, but installation from CPAN requires a running Perl on your Computer
19:12 garu ok, I think I did it right :)
19:13 garu slicavoli923, please let me know once you registered so I can disable it again (we get a lot of spam :( )
19:14 slicavoli923 I am registered
19:15 Sewi Now you could open a ticket on it here: http://padre.perlide.org/wiki/Tickets
19:15 Sewi Please include as much information as possible.
19:15 slicavoli923 sure can
19:15 Sewi thanks
19:15 Sewi also thanks garu
19:16 * garu disables registration
19:16 garu Sewi++ # for being such a nice host to new contributors :)
19:17 Sewi garu: thanks.
19:19 Hyppolit #681: Padre 0.45 MSI installation failure (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/681 ]
19:20 Sewi thanks
19:20 slicavoli923 you got it
19:20 slicavoli923 already
19:21 Sewi Hyppolit announces all new tickets, including yours :-)
19:21 slicavoli923 just wanted to thank the perl $diety and you all for this IDE
19:22 slicavoli923 I use it at work and wanted to use it while I am officed out of my home
19:22 Sewi You're welcome to join us, either by testing and reporting bugs like this one (which no one ever saw before, I think) and also by developing.
19:22 slicavoli923 I would be happy to contribute when I can
19:23 slicavoli923 it just took my really bad windows install to get you to see the bug
19:24 Sewi It's very easy: If you find something which you don't like, either open a ticket on it or - better - fix it, open a ticket and include the patch.
19:25 Sewi Using the SVN version is the best for working on Padre: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Development
19:26 Sewi And you get more features than the releases, just look what is new in the upcoming release: http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/browser/trunk/Padre/Changes
19:27 slicavoli923 great
19:27 slicavoli923 my business partner and I have been playing around trying to get it stable on one of our linux boxes
19:28 Sewi This shouldn't be a problem, was it?
19:28 slicavoli923 just a lot of dependencies that we didnt have on the box
19:28 Sewi Yeah, this isn't nice, but we already reduced their number.
19:29 slicavoli923 not sure if it is in the changes but an unindent key combination would be nice to have
19:29 Sewi Usually (but not always), a cpan Padre is enough.
19:30 Sewi It isn't in the Changes, but it is included in Padre. Try Shift-Tab.
19:30 Sewi Also works with selections.
19:30 slicavoli923 <- missed that one
19:31 * Sewi too for a long time
19:35 slicavoli923 thanks again I have to get back to working on one of my projects
19:35 Sewi Have fun and please remember creating tickets when you don't like something or something fails.
19:36 slicavoli923 I will
19:36 Hyppolit svn: r8718 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8718
19:36 Hyppolit Added possibility to export a list of actions
19:36 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
19:40 Sewi Hi Chelsea (sorry for the delay).
19:40 Sewi I guess you didn't do a TODO today, did you? :-)
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20:37 Hyppolit svn: r8719 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8719
20:37 Hyppolit Third version is finally working
20:37 Hyppolit trunk/tools/
20:38 Hyppolit svn: r8720 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8720
20:38 Hyppolit Perl tidy
20:38 Hyppolit trunk/tools/
20:42 Hyppolit #682: Add a list of actions to the website (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/682 ]
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