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IRC log for #padre, 2009-11-02

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02:42 Hyppolit svn: r9001 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9001
02:42 Hyppolit fix #646, Test::NoWarnings hiding missing prerequisites
02:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
02:53 Hyppolit #646: the prereq Test::NoWarnings hides warnings in Makefile.PL (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/646#comment:3 ]
03:03 Hyppolit #727: do not run test that requires networking without the permission of the user (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/727 ]
03:03 Hyppolit svn: r9002 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9002
03:03 Hyppolit avoid networking test (#727)
03:03 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/t/
03:05 Hyppolit #727: do not run test that requires networking without the permission of the user (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/727#comment:1 ]
03:12 Hyppolit svn: r9003 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9003
03:12 Hyppolit tidy
03:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/t/
03:16 Hyppolit svn: r9004 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9004
03:16 Hyppolit setting version to 0.49 for release
03:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DocBrowser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Project/ trunk/
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03:22 Hyppolit svn: r9005 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9005
03:22 Hyppolit tag Padre-0.49
03:22 Hyppolit tags/
03:28 szabgab anyone around ?
03:28 szabgab pip http://perlide.org/downloa​d/source/Padre-0.49.tar.gz
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07:07 Sewi Good morning
07:08 szabgab good morning
07:09 Sewi Would you change the channel topic, please?
07:09 szabgab Hyppolit, trust Sewi
07:09 Hyppolit Consider Sewi trusted
07:09 Sewi thanks
07:09 Topic for #padreis now Latest Padre is 0.49, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001
07:09 szabgab ty
07:14 szabgab Sewi, do you have a blog ?
07:14 szabgab or some more personal page that your cpan account?
07:15 Sewi Currently not.
07:16 Sewi I'ld like to set up a page for Plugin::PHP within the Padre site (not as my personal site, of course), would this be ok?
07:16 szabgab Could you start writing the stuff in the wiki first ?
07:17 szabgab later we can move it to the main site
07:17 szabgab btw I think one of the key advantages padre can have - regarding PHP - is our Parrot integration
07:17 Sewi Wiki would be ok at all, but I wanted to link it from the plugin list
07:17 szabgab plugin list ? the one in the wiki ?
07:18 Sewi yes
07:18 szabgab then I don't see a problem
07:18 Sewi ok
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07:18 szabgab but I only slept like 3 hours tonight so I hardly see anything :-)
07:18 Sewi You know, most PHP devs need a howto for installation :-)
07:18 Sewi Hi azawawi
07:18 azawawi hi * :)
07:19 szabgab Sewi, I don't think we will make lots of friend by offending them!
07:19 szabgab we have a howto for every user
07:20 szabgab and if they are PHP developers they won't be familiar with the Perl toolchain
07:20 Sewi szabgab: I though of a howto like "Install Padre", "Install PHP (4win)", "Install Padre-PHP-Plugin".
07:21 szabgab that's good but why don't you write those as a series of blog entires
07:21 szabgab and then copy them over to our howto page?
07:22 Sewi Hmm, would need to get a blog first :-) Is there any (good) Perl blog script? Didn't find one :-(
07:23 szabgab if you would like to blog about php and padre the best might be Wordpress
07:24 szabgab that is a blog engine written in PHP
07:24 Sewi But it's PHP :-(
07:24 szabgab it is quite nice and you only use it as webapp
07:24 szabgab Sewi,  I am really not sure it is good that you are trying to do the Padre advocacy to the PHP users...
07:25 Sewi Maybe not, but it seems I'm the only one atm.
07:26 szabgab sure though actually I think getting PHP people using Padre is a long shot
07:26 szabgab maybe half a year from now
07:26 szabgab once we know we can run well in parrot
07:26 Sewi Half of the things I do with the plugin is for all other languages: Find places where we could make it easier to add other language Plugins to Padre.
07:26 szabgab and then one would be able to write plugins for padre in PHP
07:27 szabgab then maybe Javascript/SQL/yaml ?
07:27 szabgab those are things perl programmers also need
07:27 szabgab XML !
07:28 szabgab Jquery ?
07:29 szabgab especially as you don't seem to fancy PHP too much :-)
07:30 szabgab What about a Lua editor? I think they don't have an IDE yet
07:31 Sewi Oh, I know a big LUA fan, maybe he wants to write a Plugin :-)
07:31 azawawi szabgab: i think we should focus on Perl first :)
07:31 * azawawi runs away...
07:32 Sewi but Parrot won't give us language-specific features needed by developers. They could use their lang for plugins, but usually developers want to develop their own stuff and use an IDE for this
07:32 szabgab I think it is great to work tangent to perl
07:32 szabgab that forces us to separate the API nicely
07:33 szabgab parrot can be used to get the parsetree back and then use that to provide help
07:33 szabgab and if you use PHP on Parrot then it will also push those who develop that to improve their implementation
08:04 Hyppolit svn: r9006 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9006
08:04 Hyppolit add initial version of a regex editor
08:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
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09:47 submersible ping Sewi
09:52 Sewi pong submersible
09:53 submersible Sewi: did u add the uptime counter to About?
09:53 Sewi yes, a long time ago
09:54 submersible http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/472
09:54 submersible should be yours to close.
09:54 Hyppolit #472: Developer plugin menu should implement 'uptime' report (assigned enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/472#comment:1 ]
09:55 submersible and thankyou.
09:55 submersible :)
09:55 Sewi Thanks :-)
09:55 Hyppolit #472: Developer plugin menu should implement 'uptime' report (closed enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/472#comment:2 ]
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10:38 Sewi szabgab: I started a blog.
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12:17 Hyppolit svn: r9007 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9007
12:17 Hyppolit add a hopefully saner check for a usable interface
12:17 Hyppolit trunk/IO-Socket-Multicast/t/
12:21 Hyppolit svn: r9008 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9008
12:21 Hyppolit effectivly replace 02_main by 03_multicast , roll version
12:21 Hyppolit trunk/IO-Socket-Multicast/lib/IO/Socket/ trunk/IO-Socket-Multicast/t/
12:25 Hyppolit svn: r9009 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9009
12:25 Hyppolit update changes
12:25 Hyppolit trunk/IO-Socket-Multicast/
14:27 Hyppolit svn: r9010 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9010
14:27 Hyppolit quash warnings, disable debug, remove userlist for the moment, roll version
14:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Swarm/Service/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Wx/Swarm/
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18:24 szabgab Sewi, url ?
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19:10 Hyppolit svn: r9011 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9011
19:10 Hyppolit svn:ignore
19:10 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/
19:10 Sewi szabgab: http://padre-ide.de.vu (as long as my new domain registrar account is open :-) ).
19:11 szabgab padre i.de  blog ?
19:12 Sewi padre-ide.de.vu/
19:12 szabgab missed the ;-)
19:12 szabgab have you already asked for inclusion in ironman ?
19:12 szabgab have you added the link to  our about.html ?
19:12 Sewi not yet
19:14 Sewi szabgab: I crashed Padre's menu and want to fix it first :-)
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20:45 code4pay Hey congratulations on the  0.49 release. Though it isn't in the change log it fixed a Double pasting issue I had when using the middle mouse button to paste in linux.
20:46 Sewi thanks
20:46 Sewi This is fixed?
20:46 code4pay yes works fine now. Never got around to raising a bug for it
20:48 code4pay on a nother note I'm still working on the mercurial plugin,   will have a lot more functionality than the exisiting VCS plugins when complete. Which will be this week some time
21:11 Hyppolit svn: r9012 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9012
21:11 Hyppolit Updated config test
21:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
21:12 Hyppolit svn: r9013 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9013
21:12 Hyppolit Add menu titles to files
21:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
21:14 Hyppolit svn: r9014 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9014
21:14 Hyppolit Added dynamic configured main menu bar
21:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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21:14 Hyppolit svn: r9015 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9015
21:14 Hyppolit Check for namespace collision between actions and menus
21:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
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21:28 Hyppolit svn: r9016 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9016
21:28 Hyppolit Re-enable hotkeys
21:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
21:30 code4pay Sewi: Seems I was a bit quick to say that bug was fixed  :-(.
21:30 Sewi Sorry, the menu bar is a little bit unstable atm
21:31 Sewi code4pay: Yeah, something else than Main is catching the mid-button event. :-(
21:31 Sewi Unsure if it's Padre at all
21:31 code4pay ok
21:32 Sewi You shouldn't update atm, the Menubar seems to be more unstable than expected. :-(
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21:46 Hyppolit svn: r9017 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9017
21:46 Hyppolit Added hotkeys and made the menubar more stable again
21:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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21:49 Hyppolit svn: r9018 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9018
21:49 Hyppolit Perl tidy
21:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
21:55 Sewi szabgab: For the RegEx - editor: why did you include the (s), (i), etc. in the gettext - part? They could get lost due to translation errors.
21:56 Hyppolit svn: r9019 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9019
21:56 Hyppolit Update messages.pot
21:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
21:56 Hyppolit svn: r9020 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9020
21:56 Hyppolit Updated German translation
21:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
21:57 Sewi good night
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22:22 waxhead morning everyone
22:22 waxhead quick question, I have been using cpan to install Padre and modules and now that I've upgrade ubuntu to Kamic Koala, everything no longer works...
22:23 waxhead is there something i can run in cpan to "redo" the installed modules ?
22:23 code4pay waxhead:  try sudo cpan -f Wx
22:23 code4pay fixed it for me
22:23 waxhead as root?
22:23 PerlJam same here, I had to reinstall Wx and it all worked
22:23 code4pay well either root or sudo same thing
22:24 waxhead code4pay, I've been using my normal user account to do the cpan stuff..
22:24 code4pay hmm ok  try it with out the sudo see what happens
22:26 waxhead code4pay, thanks... it's running now..
22:26 code4pay great
22:31 waxhead code4pay, running but make failed and won't install
22:31 waxhead trying with sudo now
22:35 waxhead sudo was the trick it needed
22:36 rindolf Hi all.
22:36 code4pay OK Padre working agin?
22:36 waxhead code4pay, yep
22:36 code4pay waxhead: excellent
22:37 waxhead truely it is.. :)
22:37 waxhead can upgrade to .49 now too
22:40 calderman code4pay,  i'm having the same issue... cpan cant get past 'make' tho
22:40 calderman any other ideas?
22:41 rindolf http://freshmeat.net/proje​cts/padre/releases/307618
22:41 code4pay calderman:  so you run the same sudo cpan -f Wx command?
22:41 calderman yep
22:42 code4pay calderman: What error does it show?
22:44 calderman g++: not found -- what's the apt-get package for that?
22:46 code4pay hmm ok and you had Padre installed previously?
22:46 tsee calderman, Depends. Could be something like g++-4.3
22:46 calderman ... installing now.  i guess it went kablamo after upgrading to kaola
22:46 tsee calderman, but first try "c++-compiler". It's a virtual package.
22:46 calderman i had padre previously
22:47 code4pay calderman: hmm thats odd then
22:56 calderman ok got it working.  thanks everyone
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23:16 kthakore szbalint: thanks for the shout out on your blog :)
23:16 kthakore oops
23:16 kthakore szabgab: thanks for the shout out on your blog :)
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23:21 szbalint your welcome anyway
23:21 szbalint =)
23:37 kthakore szbalint: ok
23:37 kthakore :p

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