Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2009-11-07

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00:27 Sewi good night
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03:31 submersible hi waxhead
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04:30 waxhead hey submersible
04:30 waxhead how's things?
04:30 * waxhead has been to bunnings
04:30 waxhead more vegies to plant
04:31 waxhead submersible, what's the go with the dobrowser always loading the Padre document?
04:31 waxhead submersible, I can't figure out how to NOT do that
04:33 submersible waxhead: the problem is how it is instanced
04:33 submersible in Menu/Help
04:33 waxhead so look there?
04:34 submersible yeah - it's lazy loaded by the first call to ->help I think
04:34 submersible and the construction passes 'Padre' as a search term
04:38 waxhead the docbrowser constructor?
04:39 Hyppolit svn: r9114 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9114
04:39 Hyppolit Minor spelling correction.
04:39 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
05:06 submersible waxhead: no - I think Menu/Help.pm
05:07 submersible oops - ignore me - they're all actions now
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05:13 Hyppolit #686: Help > Current Document should not load/select Padre.pm POD (accepted defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/686#comment:2 ]
05:19 Hyppolit svn: r9115 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9115
05:19 Hyppolit #686 - docbrowser fix
05:19 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
05:20 Hyppolit #686: Help > Current Document should not load/select Padre.pm POD (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/686#comment:3 ]
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06:41 waxhead submersible, I don't think I'd have found that...
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09:20 Hyppolit svn: r9116 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9116
09:20 Hyppolit Updated Changes
09:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/
09:24 Hyppolit svn: r9117 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9117
09:24 Hyppolit Added all Changes since last release.
09:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/
09:43 Hyppolit svn: r9118 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9118
09:43 Hyppolit Bumped Version Number.
09:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/lib/Padre/Plugin/SVN/Wx/
09:44 Hyppolit svn: r9119 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9119
09:44 Hyppolit Bumped Version Number.
09:44 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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10:33 Sewi hi all
11:14 submersible hi Sewi
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14:10 Hyppolit svn: r9120 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9120
14:10 Hyppolit add a dodgy relay to swarm.perlide.org
14:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/junkyard/
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14:38 Hyppolit #737: File::HomeDIr->my_documents can be empty list (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/737 ]
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15:24 Hyppolit svn: r9121 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9121
15:24 Hyppolit New config options for Padre::File
15:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/Preferences/
15:28 Hyppolit svn: r9122 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9122
15:28 Hyppolit Use the new config options
15:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/
15:31 Hyppolit svn: r9123 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9123
15:31 Hyppolit Add some POD documentation
15:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/Preferences/
15:32 Hyppolit svn: r9124 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9124
15:32 Hyppolit Updated Changes
15:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
15:35 Hyppolit svn: r9125 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9125
15:35 Hyppolit Perl tidy
15:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/Preferences/
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15:36 Hyppolit #738: Use Parrot for PHP highlighting, if possible (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/738 ]
15:44 Hyppolit #737: File::HomeDIr->my_documents can be empty list (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/​ticket/737#comment:description.1 ]
15:53 Hyppolit svn: r9126 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9126
15:53 Hyppolit Fix ticket #737
15:53 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
15:54 Hyppolit #737: File::HomeDIr->my_documents can be empty list (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/737#comment:2 ]
16:10 Getty if the user makes php code, he should get a warning every 5 minutes "it seems like you dont code the right language, you should switch to perl" ;)
16:10 Getty or just "damn you, stop it!"
16:11 GabrielVieira I vote the 2nd warning
16:11 GabrielVieira :P
16:11 Sewi Getty: You use m4, don't you? PHP is a preprocessor, nothing more. This is what php.net says, at least.
16:13 Sewi There are more lost souls using PHP than real developers using Perl :-) This is why Padre should have a strong PHP module - to get more users. And as soon as they want to change something, they MUST use Perl :-)
16:13 Getty Sewi: hehehe ;)
16:14 Getty ok so i must code the php modules
16:14 Getty :-/
16:18 Getty but actually the biggest problem is the parser, even the Zend internal parser does some parts wrong
16:18 Getty you can check only php syntax with php interpreter, cause they change everything in every release
16:18 Getty (like introducing GOTO!!! :D)
16:18 Sewi Yeah, they still have to learn about the words "downstream compatible"
16:19 Getty it doesnt exist
16:19 Getty or lets say: they THINK they are
16:19 Getty goto is nice example
16:19 Getty goto is a keyword that is just logical usable as function:
16:19 Getty goto 123;
16:19 Sewi Correct me if I'm wrong, but you could run every Perl 1.0 script with Perl 5.10.11, could you?
16:19 Getty can someone tell me why the parser makes a crash if i do: $this->goto ? ;)
16:19 Getty Sewi: dont go so wide
16:19 Getty Sewi: Perl 5.8 is as old as PHP ;)
16:19 Getty or something ;)
16:20 Getty hehe
16:20 Sewi Maybe you want to look at #738?
16:20 Hyppolit #738: Use Parrot for PHP highlighting, if possible (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/738 ]
16:20 Getty not really, even thinking about it makes me sad, but i do it when i go into that new job where i need todo PHP again
16:20 Getty then i'm anyway sad, and then i check on that
16:20 Getty how todo it somehow possible
16:21 Getty but beside integrating complete php into it..... ;)
16:21 Getty but actually "why not"
16:21 Getty i mean
16:21 Getty making a perl module PHP which gives XS to the functions of PHP internals
16:21 Getty there is a tokenizer inside of PHP
16:21 Getty that could then be reused
16:21 Getty so its 100% accurate
16:21 Getty BUT i dont know if i can find out the "errors" easily
16:21 Sewi Parrot does this (using another way)
16:22 Getty the compiler of PHP is very integrated shit (not nice code)
16:22 Getty yeah, but can we resist on Parrot?
16:22 Getty is Parrot behind PHP as fast as PHP changes the syntax?
16:22 Sewi Oh, and you still own us a badwords patch for Hyppolit :-)
16:22 Getty Sewi: no!
16:22 Getty Sewi: he is in
16:22 Getty Sewi: i wait for szabgab to test the new bot, still :-P
16:23 Getty Sewi: check Hyppolit source tree :-P
16:23 Sewi Just ping him or open a ticket for him :-)
16:23 Getty i told it to him here 2-3 times, but i dont want to stress him about "a bot"
16:25 Getty 2 days ago i started my own lib "Sugar" kind of integration of the coolest Sugar stuff into one lib ;)
16:27 Getty as far as i know you, you will hate it ;) hehe
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16:33 Sewi Currently I'm like to have a Clone::myself - module :-)
17:04 * Sewi &
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17:59 Hyppolit #737: File::HomeDIr->my_documents can be empty list (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/737#comment:2.3 ]
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20:21 rindolf Hi all.
20:22 rindolf szabgab: ping me when you're here.
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21:39 Hyppolit #738: Use Parrot for PHP highlighting, if possible (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/738#comment:1 ]
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21:40 Hyppolit #737: File::HomeDIr->my_documents can be empty list (reopened defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/737#comment:4 ]
21:41 Hyppolit #737: File::HomeDIr->my_documents can be empty list (reopened defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/737#comment:5 ]
21:43 Sewi szabgab: You may want to change it to "External dependency" as it's no editor ticket any longer...
21:44 Hyppolit #737: File::HomeDIr->my_documents can be empty list (reopened defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/737#comment:6 ]
21:44 szabgab there you go
21:44 Sewi thanks :-)
21:45 Sewi Didn't want to do it while you were working on it.
21:52 szabgab I am off bed now, you can do you 20 commits now :-)
21:52 Sewi :-)
21:52 szabgab and I plan to release the next version tomorrow
21:53 Sewi I'm just starting some downloads and will do the same as you then.
21:53 Sewi Good plan. If you got a minute, please test the FTP file access before. It works for me but this doesn't mean anything :-)
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21:54 Getty Sewi: i can test it, too on windows if you want ;) (yes i know you want, just a rhetorical question)
21:55 Getty let me update my svn and start it up
21:55 Sewi Getty: sure, I'm happy if anyone is using something I wrote :-)
21:55 Getty where do i need to configure it?
21:55 Getty but will take some time, i update all of padre svn now
21:55 Sewi Nowhere :-) Goto File -> Open URL and type your ftp://username:password@server:port/path/file.pl where username:passwort@ and the :port are optional.
21:56 Getty what? no pre configuration of hosts?
21:56 Getty no dropdown?
21:56 Getty you are lame ;)
21:56 Getty hehe ok i test it
21:57 Sewi Hey, you didn't do #583 :-)
21:57 Hyppolit #583: Open dialog for browsing using Padre::File (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/583 ]
21:58 Getty hey, i never said i do ;)
21:58 Sewi Let me do a quick fake of a channel log file :-)
21:58 Getty yeah sure ;)
21:59 Getty <Sewi> Dude, you dont need todo that bug, i do them, i'm so glad you found it! gimme more, i fix them all!
21:59 Getty that is in my faked logfile ;)
22:00 Sewi Yeah, but #583 isn't a bug :-) But I'm no Wx guru :-(
22:00 Hyppolit #583: Open dialog for browsing using Padre::File (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/583 ]
22:01 * Sewi afk
22:03 Getty Sewi: back?
22:03 Getty saving works
22:03 Getty should i check if it detects changes?
22:03 Getty or isnt that implemented?
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22:04 Sewi [afk] It can read, write :-)
22:04 Getty hehe
22:04 Getty ok
22:04 Getty so its done
22:04 Getty i tested it
22:04 Getty it works
22:04 Getty but it isnt cool, i really need to give full url?
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