Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2009-11-20

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04:53 mib_hjzwnw Hello
04:55 mib_hjzwnw I have Padre Standalone under Win7 x64.. and when I run it (after installing it using the MSI file, and restarting my computer), it simply doesn't run... it appears in the task manager and quiet without any errors
04:55 mib_hjzwnw any idea?
04:56 mib_hjzwnw I tried Vista compatibility mode as well, and real Admin, with teh same failing results
04:56 mib_hjzwnw any help or suggestion would be appriciated
04:58 mib_hjzwnw I can't find any help documentation to get me started with Padre
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06:40 Sewi good morning
06:40 Hyppolit #757: autocompletion should not remember words smaller than 3 or 4 letters (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/757#comment:1 ]
06:43 waxhead hey sewi
06:43 waxhead did you check out that commit last night?
06:43 waxhead I'm thinking of adding an option to 'auto pod' too.. :)
06:44 Sewi waxhead: No, I wrote it :-)
06:44 waxhead you done pod thing?
06:44 Sewi You mean for the method autocompletion? Already thought about this but didn't have the time...
06:44 Sewi No, I did the commit(s)
06:45 waxhead I mean the fix for the problem when the line you're editting is the last line.
06:46 waxhead I also added in a check for when you aren't in a package and does the autocomplete "sub"
06:46 Sewi Oh, sorry, yes, I saw this commit, but not tried it until now.
06:46 waxhead the next thing is the pod
06:46 waxhead but if you've done it  means I don't need to :)
06:47 Hyppolit #747: undo not undoing enough (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/747#comment:1 ]
06:48 Sewi waxhead: I added some config options to satisfy #757
06:48 Hyppolit #757: autocompletion should not remember words smaller than 3 or 4 letters (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/757#comment:1 ]
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06:49 waxhead cool
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11:54 Hyppolit svn: r9247 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9247
11:54 Hyppolit add more IRC channels to web site
11:54 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlid​e.org/documentroot/static/
11:57 siegfri3d good morning sirs.... :)
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12:24 szabgab siegfri3d, gm
12:29 siegfri3d szabgab: :)
12:47 jq anyone under fedora or debian here?
13:26 szabgab jquery:  ubuntu
13:26 szabgab ;-)
13:26 szabgab but I am planning to install a couple of Virtual Boxes
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13:47 Sewi jq: Is the commited solution for #757 what you want?
13:47 Hyppolit #757: autocompletion should not remember words smaller than 3 or 4 letters (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/757#comment:1 ]
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14:05 Hyppolit svn: r9248 | tsee++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9248
14:05 Hyppolit Require Class::XSAccessor for threading fixes; Remove dependency on Class::XSAccessor::Array as it's part of Class::XSAccessor nowadays.
14:05 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
14:05 tsee Umm. That should have read "Require C::XSA 1.05 for threading fixes", sorry.
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15:46 tsee Does anyone know where the Syntax::Highlight::Engine::Kate scripts are that generate the .pm files from XML?
15:46 tsee And where the XML files live, too.
15:46 tsee szabgab, you, maybe?
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16:04 tsee Okay, found "Syntax-Highlight-Engine-Kate/lib/Syn​tax/Highlight/Engine/Kate/ToolKit.pm" which probably contains most of the code, but that's a large, undocumented body of strange code.
16:09 tsee Okay, that's not the way I'm going to find out :(
16:37 tsee What's the correct way to get at a config attribute that MAY have been overridden in the project config?
16:37 tsee Will this automatically happen if I access the configuration normally?
16:37 tsee Or do I ask the Project for its config?
16:41 tsee Somebody must be awake, surely?
16:41 tsee Alias? I'm a bit rusty on the best practices here.
16:44 tsee Ah. It's handed to the default config if necessary.
16:53 tsee Okay, there seems to be something broken in the project/config setup.
16:54 tsee I'm getting my project cfg as such: $document->project->config
16:54 tsee If I dump the structure, it contains the contents of padre.yml as the project config alright.
16:55 tsee But if I call a method on it to get the actual config value, it returns the global default.
16:55 tsee Instead of the project specific setting.
16:58 tsee Considering the code in Padre::Conifg that's generated for the accessor methods, this doesn't seem so surprising.
16:59 tsee Okay, partly, it's my fault.
16:59 tsee I've set store => Padre::Config::HUMAN
16:59 tsee BUT
17:00 tsee Suppose I fixed this and made it Padre::Config::PROJECT.
17:00 tsee Shouldn't Padre fall back to checking Padre::Config::HUMAN and/or the other cfg stores if it's not in the project cfg?
17:01 tsee Note that NONE of the settings currently specifies Padre::Config::PROJECT
17:01 tsee That means any padre.yml WILL BE IGNORED.
17:06 Hyppolit svn: r9249 | tsee++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9249
17:06 Hyppolit Support for multiple perlapi calltips in XS code if Perl::APIReference is installed
17:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/
17:07 tsee This commit means that you can get calltips for (almost) arbitrary versions of the perlapi. Depending on which version of it you select in your project configuration.
17:07 tsee It falls back to using the newest one.
17:08 tsee This begs two improvements:
17:09 tsee A sort of "show document information" popup that one gets when right-clicking the document tab. There, I'd like to be able to show things such as the current indentation settings and perlapi for the document (This is a ::Document::XS, but this extension would make sense for ::Perl documents as well, minus the perlapi info)
17:09 tsee Also, that could show project info.
17:09 tsee "this document belows to a project in project root blah"
17:09 tsee The other is the fallback for project options that aren't set.
17:10 tsee I'll stop talking to myself now. Surprising that none of the FOURTY SEVEN people in here care :)
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17:15 Hyppolit svn: r9250 | tsee++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9250
17:15 Hyppolit document perlapi calltips changes
17:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
17:18 szabgab tsee I would talk to you now but you are not here any more
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19:11 Sewi szab: :-)
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19:59 tsee This channel has become too quiet
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20:30 El_Che however, it is well visited
20:30 El_Che :)
20:32 Sewi :-)
20:34 El_Che I feel bad not having touched any padre code in ages. phd + kids have kept me away from perl
20:34 El_Che I see you have been pretty active
20:36 * Sewi hides behind a wall of source :-)
20:36 Sewi El_Che: I got two of them (kids) and there are always 5 min to dev when they're sleeping :-) No excuses.
20:37 El_Che tell that to my supervisor :)
20:38 El_Che nah really, combining work and phd have been pretty heavy so I am trying to get financing for taking a year off
20:38 El_Che and finish the damn thing one year earlier
20:38 El_Che as you can imagine, it's a lot of paperwork
20:39 El_Che anyway, worth trying
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20:52 * Sewi still wonders how all of you could afford this (year off)
20:56 El_Che that's the thing
20:56 El_Che I won't
20:57 El_Che the normal way to get a phd is to return to univesity and fisnish in 4 to 6 years
20:57 El_Che As I am older, working nad with a family (two kids) that's not an option
20:57 El_Che there is a special grant for people working
20:57 El_Che not 4 to 6 years
20:57 El_Che but only 1
20:58 El_Che but you get your regular pay
20:58 El_Che instead of the regular grant
20:58 El_Che difficult to get of course
20:58 El_Che but worth trying
20:58 Sewi guess it is.
21:00 El_Che I already took 2 years of in my life to travel (together with GF)
21:00 El_Che but that was before having children
21:00 Sewi El_Che: My first announced herself when I was 18. Not planned, but still happy with the decision. :-)
21:01 El_Che wow, kudos to you
21:01 El_Che I had a big scare at that age :)
21:01 El_Che my fist kid was born when I was 32
21:02 El_Che and I have now a newborn (3 month)
21:02 Sewi Do you get sleep at night?
21:02 El_Che hehe
21:02 El_Che now, yes
21:02 El_Che with the fist: no
21:03 El_Che it lasted until she was 20-22 moths or something like that
21:03 El_Che I did a lot of zombiewalking
21:03 Sewi Oh, sometimes it lasts until they're 18 or so... years :-)
21:03 El_Che hehe, so I am lucky
21:04 El_Che great in your case that you stay a young when they are getting adult
21:04 El_Che that's pretty neat
21:04 El_Che I will be having a midlife crisis by then :)
21:06 Sewi :-)
21:09 Sewi What about adding some lines Padre source today?
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21:40 El_Che I am writing a paper for a talk in a few weeks time
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