Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2009-12-04

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00:00 kthakore ah ...
00:00 Hyppolit svn: r9458 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9458
00:00 Hyppolit There are no longer two outline entries in the Window menu
00:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
00:00 kthakore thanks
00:00 kthakore Alias: also I have this
00:00 kthakore # 19:00:05: Error: Cannot set locale to 'ar'.
00:00 kthakore t/15-locale.t .............. 3/7 19:00:06: Error: Cannot set locale to 'de_DE'
00:02 Alias I see something similar
00:02 Alias I'm not sure what that is
00:04 kthakore Alias: /win 2
00:09 Alias kthakore: /FAIL 2
00:09 kthakore Alias: lol
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00:44 Hyppolit svn: r9459 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9459
00:44 Hyppolit Indicate Directory vs Project mode in the directory browser
00:44 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Wx/Perl/Dialog/
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01:17 Hyppolit svn: r9460 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9460
01:17 Hyppolit Adding what is (hopefully) a faster version of get_functions, which doesn't have to do a string copy, or do a bunch of pre-search cleanup substitutions. This should (again, hopefully) make opening files, changing tabs, and closing files, faster.
01:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/
01:53 Hyppolit svn: r9461 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9461
01:53 Hyppolit Should now allow the creation of locks, ready to start integrating into the rest of Padre
01:53 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
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05:51 garu Alias, I want to make an Acme plugin for Padre, what's the proper namespace to use again?
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06:24 Sewi good morning
06:37 szabgab gm
06:37 szabgab Alias, kthakore regarding that test failure in t/15-locale  see this http://www.nntp.perl.org/group​/perl.qa/2009/12/msg12439.html
06:47 rindolf szabgab: good morning.
06:47 rindolf Sewi: hi.
06:53 Sewi hi, how a u?
06:58 rindolf Sewi: hi.
06:58 rindolf Sewi: I'm fine.
06:59 rindolf Sewi: I was able to optimise a Haskell program a little.
06:59 rindolf Now it's roughly as fast as the Perl equivalent.
06:59 rindolf But still much slower than C.
06:59 rindolf The people on #haskell say I can implement the same algorithm as in C.
06:59 rindolf Using assignment or something like that.
07:00 rindolf I also replied to someone on beginners@perl.org
07:00 rindolf And I've worked on http://algorithms.wikia.com/wiki/Optim​ization_-_Reducing_Memory_Consumption
07:01 rindolf Yesterday I did some extra Moosification of XML-Grammar-Fiction
07:02 rindolf Sewi: what's up with you?
07:08 Sewi Oh, I'd be happy if I'd get more time to work on Padre, but other work keeps me busy. I did a 4-hour solo flight yesterday which was the biggest step of the training. It was great but it blocked a whole working day.
07:16 rindolf Sewi: flight? As in airplane?
07:17 Sewi Not as, but in, yes.
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07:58 Hyppolit svn: r9462 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9462
07:58 Hyppolit Catalyst plugin now has its own panel (zamolxes++, Ryan52++)
07:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Catalyst/
07:58 Alias2 Woot
07:59 * Alias2 has high hopes for the Catalyst plugin
07:59 Alias2 I'd love to see all kinds of useful things in it
08:01 garu Alias2, me too :)
08:01 garu I'm writing an advent calendar piece about it
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08:02 garu hopefully more people will get interested and post feature requests
08:02 garu maybe even contribute with some code :)
08:02 Alias2 I'm pondering what I might actually want in a Catalyst plugin
08:02 Alias2 I've been thinking for a little while it might be nice to have a code generation framework that plugins can use
08:03 garu Alias2, feel free to push ideas to the TODO file :)
08:03 Alias2 So when you go File -> New -> Catalyst -> Whatever...
08:03 * garu listens
08:03 Alias2 Since most classes in Cat applications go into directories that already exist, the new directory intuition should be nice for Cat stuff too
08:04 Hyppolit svn: r9463 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9463
08:04 Hyppolit added missing i18n sentences
08:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/lib/Padre/Plugin/
08:04 Alias2 package MyApp::Controller::Foo; # Hit save, and it will pre-set the save dialog to the /lib/MyApp/Controller directory
08:04 Alias2 Oh, and I just added the very core of Template Toolkit support
08:05 Alias2 Which you might want to try to recruit for
08:05 garu Alias2++
08:05 Alias2 application/x-perltt is the mime type
08:05 Alias2 It just uses the HTML lexer for now
08:05 Alias2 But it will probably need a Document class
08:06 Alias2 (Although I'm not entirely sure what it would do
08:06 Sewi A dump could be used for variable name autocomplete for TT, this would be great.
08:06 Alias2 We probably need a lexer customisation for TT
08:07 Alias2 Komodo has one, so we'll need it too
08:07 garu yes, but [% and %] should be fine for starters, I guess
08:07 Sewi Dumper() your TT data structure, load it in Padre and it could autocomple the names and parts within the object tree
08:08 garu Alias2, while upgrading the plugin I became a victim of the "directory intuition" thingie, alright
08:08 Alias2 Assuming you can GET the TT data structure
08:08 Alias2 "Victim"?
08:08 garu it was an awesome job, whoever thought of it :)
08:08 Alias2 It worked wrongly for you?
08:08 garu no, not at all
08:08 garu it's just that I didn't know about it
08:09 Alias2 Ah
08:09 Alias2 It's only been in there for three days :)
08:09 garu and the save dialog for the new file went right to the right place, it was bloody awesome
08:09 Alias2 Yeah :)
08:09 Alias2 Only downside
08:09 Alias2 It won't automatically make new subdirectories
08:09 Alias2 It gives up in that case
08:10 Alias2 Because it's scared of what might happen if it gets the project it thinks it is in wrong
08:10 garu should work fine for Catalyst apps, since the pre-built skeleton already creates the "Controller" directory (and siblings)
08:10 Alias2 Yeah
08:10 Alias2 I'm actually pondering a new Smart Save
08:10 Alias2 Ctrl-Shift-S instead of Ctrl-s
08:10 Alias2 Which won't even show a dialog
08:11 Alias2 It was just save it wherever the hell it wants
08:11 garu "I'm feeling lucky" save button :)
08:11 Alias2 Basically :)
08:11 garu very nice
08:12 Alias2 I think I shall call it "Save Wherever"
08:12 Alias2 Although that's going to be a bitch to translate I'm sure
08:12 garu is there a way for the plugin to override the autocomplete?
08:13 garu oh, I could really really really use a hook for whenever the active document changes in the editor
08:14 garu to disable some of the plugin's menu items if the document is not from a Cat app
08:14 Alias2 The new action system has screwed the menu system up
08:14 Alias2 I'm going to need to go back in there and do some new kind of menu enable/disable system
08:14 Alias2 I'm starting with a new locking/refresh system
08:15 garu please give me a head's up if you do... I rigged the plugin menu to make it work in current Padre so I don't want to break it :)
08:15 Sewi garu: There are document dependent menu items.
08:16 garu yes!
08:16 garu like "Perl"
08:16 Sewi garu: I'll add a template for this to the Catalyst plugin if you want
08:16 garu Sewi++
08:16 Alias2 We need to get rid of stupid dynamic menus
08:16 Alias2 That was my fault
08:16 Alias2 FAIL
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08:17 zamolxes garu: it would be a great thing if you could make a journal of all the small bits of info you discover while coding, for future plugin developers :)
08:17 Sewi Alias: There is one, but it's rarely used: Each action has need_ - keys which tell Padre when it should enable or disable them.
08:17 garu Sewi, I don't care about changing the menu, just knowing the active document changed
08:17 Alias2 Sewi: Sure, but they don't seem to be working properly, since no menu entries are ever disabled atm
08:18 zamolxes garu: cause just the  directory intuition and menu per filetype things are probably not going to be quickly discovered by other devs
08:18 Sewi Alias2: Hmm, my run menu has disabled items atm.
08:18 garu zamolxes, yes, we should put it in Padre::Plugin's Pod
08:18 Alias2 Sewi: Yeah, but ONLY run menu
08:19 Alias2 Sewi: I'll talk to you about what we might do once I've finished Padre::Locker
08:19 garu people, it's 6am here, I need to sleep for a bit
08:19 garu oh, one thing
08:19 Sewi Alias: And it doesn't change, you're right. I changed to a CSS file and it's runable too.
08:19 garu shouldn't we release 0.51?
08:19 Alias2 yup
08:19 garu I mean, it's already got a huge Changelog
08:19 Alias2 garu: kthakore is doing a 0.51 release today I believe
08:20 garu kthakore is the new release manager???
08:20 garu we're doomed :P
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08:20 Alias2 heh
08:21 Sewi Alias2: I'll try to look at it during the weekend. The toolbar works, there shouldn't be much missing for the menus
08:21 Alias2 Sewi: I'm redo'ing the entire refresh system in the locking stuff
08:21 Alias2 I wouldn't mind incorporating menu fixes in the new locking/refresh stuff
08:22 garu Sewi, thanks for the help with the doc change. Make it happen and I'll owe you a beer :)
08:22 Alias2 Sewi: But these fixes (both refresh and menu) will be big changes, so lets wait until after 0.51
08:23 garu good night folks
08:23 garu &
08:24 Sewi Alias: Yes. Please disable the Directorybrowser changes for the update, too
08:24 Alias2 er, what?
08:24 Alias2 Please disable the what now?
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08:24 Sewi We were talking about it one or two days ago...
08:25 Sewi Wait...
08:27 Sewi SewiAlias: Some simple # around http://padre.perlide.org/trac/browser/trunk/​Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Directory.pm?rev=9394#L93 could easily make Padre release-safe by disabling everything new.
08:27 Alias2 You mean the background updating stuff/
08:27 Sewi No, the first steps of using Padre::File
08:27 Alias2 ah
08:27 Alias2 Well, we're releasing basically now
08:28 Alias2 So I'd go remove your experimental stuff immediately
08:30 Hyppolit svn: r9464 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9464
08:30 Hyppolit Disabling incomplete stuff for release
08:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
08:32 Sewi I won't call it experimental as it's working. One or two items use it and the others use the old way and this mix shouldn't go to a release.
08:32 Alias2 Fair enough
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09:07 Alias2 BTW, can someone with a checkout of the repository quickly add the download link for the experimentalMac DMG?
09:07 Alias2 To the download page
09:07 Alias2 http://ali.as/Padre.dmg
09:26 szabgab maybe add it to the wiki instead?
09:27 Alias2 I'd still put it on the main website
09:27 Alias2 It's a big jump up from a raw install
09:28 Alias2 Just tag it as alpha
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09:43 Hyppolit svn: r9465 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9465
09:43 Hyppolit Added Mac DMG link
09:43 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/
09:44 Sewi Alias2: Is this ok for you?
09:45 Alias2 Note next to it with the file size, but otherwise yes
09:45 * Alias2 has to run
09:45 Alias2 Thansk
09:45 Alias2 Thanks
10:12 Hyppolit svn: r9466 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9466
10:12 Hyppolit Added DMG file size
10:12 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/
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10:26 kthakore Alias: wth no i am not
10:26 kthakore i cant release padre it will be too much
10:26 kthakore szabgab: thx
10:29 * waxhead is looking over the changes file... a lot has been done since 0.50
10:29 waxhead Alias, you finished breaking things?
10:32 Sewi waxhead: Alias and I are never finished breaking Padre, you know? :-)
10:32 waxhead it's a good thing though
10:32 waxhead I'm thinking about doing up a release.. but a bit nervous about it...
10:33 Sewi You could easily create a release package locally, upload it somewhere and let people (make) test it if you're unsure that everything works.
10:35 kthakore xhead++
10:36 kthakore alias there ^^
10:37 Sewi He was here as Alias2 since about one hour ago. He may be away from his computer logged in as himself now.
10:38 kthakore kk
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10:49 waxhead this is going to be tedious...
10:49 waxhead the wireless issues that is...
10:51 Sewi Get a cable :-)
10:51 * Sewi tries to advoid wireless data transmission at all
10:52 kthakore Sewi: no cellphone?
10:52 kthakore no radio?
10:52 Sewi Okay, I should say "wireless IP-based data transmission"
10:53 kthakore :)
10:53 Sewi WLAN, 3G, etc. isn't reliable at all.
10:53 kthakore should have woulda could
10:53 Sewi DECT, cellphone, car key, mouse, etc. are working ok. :-)
10:53 waxhead 802.11 N
10:53 kthakore Sewi: kk
10:53 waxhead freakin intel card in the laptop...
10:54 waxhead it get the microcode crash problem...
10:54 Sewi kthakore: Oh, I'd like to add bluetooth even if it usually uses MAC instead of IP :-)
10:54 waxhead Dec  4 21:44:12 eeeyore kernel: [ 1834.640900] iwlagn 0000:0b:00.0: Microcode SW error detected.  Restarting 0x82000000.
10:56 kthakore Sewi: kk
11:01 waxhead right... so it seems that I need to start this and make commits to trunk... or a branch...
11:03 Sewi Does anybody know if the SVN plugin works on win using tortoise?
11:03 waxhead Sewi, no it doesn't... you need to install the command line tools
11:03 Sewi thx, I won't install the plugin then.
11:03 waxhead the tortise stuff are dll's that hook into the explorer shell...
11:03 waxhead not the same thing
11:04 waxhead not on win32
11:04 waxhead I'm running it on win32
11:04 waxhead works OK... but last night discovered some issue with the file being saved to %TEMP%
11:04 waxhead the path delimiter was missing... not sure what that's about yet...
11:08 waxhead Sewi, I think I wrote something in the POD about the win32 requirements...
11:09 Sewi Apologies for asking before checking the files.
11:09 waxhead Hmm.. I could do this as a branch, but to be honest I really don't want to get stuck with doing a merge after the release...
11:09 waxhead Sewi, it's not a big deal... :)  I was just trying to recall if I wrote anything about it...
11:14 waxhead Alias, ping
11:14 waxhead what's the chances on a friday night?  :)
11:15 waxhead is crtl-TAB still broken???
11:15 Sewi It is :-(
11:21 waxhead bugger.. that's a real pain... has anyone had a look at it?
11:28 Sewi I tried to exchange Ctrl-Tab by another shortcut and it worked. It has something to do with the shortcut. The event itself is fine but it isn't fired.
11:29 Sewi The text doesn't include a shortcut (common error) and I don't know how to further debug it
11:35 waxhead I wonder when it broke?
11:38 Sewi It never worked at 100% on my ubuntu, but I'ld guess 60-90%.
11:50 waxhead szabgab, ping
11:51 szabgab I just came by
11:51 waxhead that was lucky...
11:51 waxhead I'm just looking into this release process...
11:52 szabgab why nerveous?
11:52 waxhead yeah.. I am a bit...
11:52 szabgab it is quite straight forward and it won't blow up anything even if it fails
11:52 waxhead just thinking through what needs to be done...
11:52 waxhead szabgab, the simple way is to just release off trunk...
11:52 szabgab but I am not sure we want to run the release on win32
11:53 waxhead but I see merit in a branch to manage the process better...
11:53 szabgab do you also have a linux desktop?
11:53 waxhead oh I'm back on linux
11:53 szabgab good
11:53 szabgab I don't think there is a need for a branch now
11:53 waxhead the laptop has one of those useless intel nics.. so I can't get the network connected...
11:53 waxhead you think?
11:54 waxhead so if I follow the steps in the Release page, I _should_ be OK?
11:54 szabgab ot seems to be settled now, not much activity
11:54 szabgab yes
11:54 waxhead I've also read through the commit logs from the last release and checked the Changes file.. it seems OK...
11:54 szabgab and you can always blame it on the instructions :-)
11:54 * waxhead really just wants someone to hold his hand!  :)
11:54 szabgab I am bit far for that ;-)
11:55 szabgab but I am here for you to talk
11:55 waxhead oh.. I've tried make test and there's a lot of fails around the perl critic stuff...
11:55 waxhead is that going to be a show stopper?
11:56 waxhead szabgab, so it's ok to follow the instuctions on the web page and make the changes needed for a release?
11:57 waxhead any see this?
11:57 waxhead http://www.catalyzed.org/200​9/12/look-at-padre.html#more
11:57 szabgab have svn upped?
11:58 szabgab what revision are you at ?
11:58 waxhead szabgab, did a fresh svn co about 30 minutes ago
11:58 szabgab waxhead, it is already linked from our about page
11:58 szabgab hmm
11:59 szabgab are those only critic failures?
11:59 szabgab what version of Perl::Critic are you using?
11:59 szabgab pls  paste them
11:59 waxhead yes...
11:59 waxhead not sure
11:59 waxhead ok.. what's the trick to printing the version of a module?
11:59 szabgab I'll be back in about 20 minutes, I hope someone else can also help
12:00 waxhead no worries...
12:00 waxhead I'll just plod along and see what's needed to be done
12:27 kthakore hi szabgab
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12:52 Hyppolit svn: r9467 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9467
12:52 Hyppolit Preparing for release 0.51
12:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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12:56 Hyppolit svn: r9468 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9468
12:56 Hyppolit Tidy run for release 0.51
12:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/Debug/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Wx/Perl/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/script/ trunk/Padre/t/
12:58 Hyppolit svn: r9469 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9469
12:58 Hyppolit Version set for release 0.51
12:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DocBrowser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Project/ trunk/Padre/lib/Pad
13:01 iain Hi, is there a way of specifying extra lib paths (e.g. -I../lib) without having to put use lib statements in all the files? Mainly to get the syntax checker working.
13:08 shadowpaste "waxhead" at 217.168.144.84 pasted "critic fail" (140 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/36915
13:08 waxhead szabgab, it's late here.. barely able to keep my eyes open....
13:08 waxhead see the paste ^^^
13:17 waxhead szabgab, ping
13:19 waxhead ok... it's time for shut eye here.. early start with sport with the kids...
13:20 waxhead sent email about the critic fails on the list... will pick this up tomorrow afternoon between house chores...
13:20 waxhead nite
13:27 szabgab iain, AFAIK not yet
13:28 iain szabgab: thanks, that makes me a sad panda (loads up eclipse again).
13:29 szabgab panda ?
13:29 iain its from south park
13:29 szabgab how undereducated I am :-)
13:30 szabgab iain, could you please check if there is a ticket for this ?
13:32 iain I had a quick look before and couldnt find one. So I will add it.
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13:59 kthakore iain: I like you
13:59 kthakore iain: sexual harrazment panda!!!
13:59 iain lol
13:59 kthakore when you touch each other it makes me a saaaaaad panda :(
13:59 kthakore lol
14:00 kthakore szabgab: please watch shoutpark
14:00 grim kthakore: LOL, thought you were a wierd stalker type for a second then!
14:00 kthakore grim: I though you were the grim reaper
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14:07 raaggh hello, padre is perl ide ?
14:11 kthakore whut?
14:11 kthakore lol
14:11 kthakore szabgab: morning?
14:12 kthakore szabgab: :( you don't do rehi anymore ok well I am going to go get coffe
14:15 kthakore Getty: hi ya
14:15 kthakore Getty: guess what
14:30 Hyppolit svn: r9470 | jquelin++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9470
14:30 Hyppolit updated french translation
14:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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15:05 szabgab kthakore, remorning?
15:08 kthakore szabgab: ya!
15:08 kthakore szabgab: haven't heard from you in a while
15:08 szabgab reya!
15:08 Hyppolit #780: Windows sysadmin help: tail -f on log files (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/780 ]
15:09 kthakore szabgab: How is life?
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15:09 szabgab I need more memory in my machine :-)
15:09 kthakore szabgab: lol for Padre?
15:10 szabgab I am running 3 virtual boxes now
15:10 szabgab and I think I want more
15:10 kthakore wow
15:10 kthakore which ones?
15:10 szabgab Ubuntu 9.10 and WindowsXP
15:10 szabgab theyare currently smoke testing the Padre svn repo
15:11 kthakore szabgab: ah ok
15:11 szabgab I think I'll enlarge that smoker to test other things as well
15:11 kthakore szabgab: I need to get mst to give me a vm box to run some testing too
15:11 kthakore szabgab: SDL?
15:11 kthakore :p
15:11 szabgab I can try to do that as well later
15:11 kthakore szabgab: yay!
15:11 szabgab but it is in git, right ?
15:12 kthakore szabgab: yes I have already a tool to make it super easy
15:12 szabgab it should not be a big issue, I just need to factor out the svn specific part
15:12 kthakore szabgab: http://github.com/kthakore/SDL_per​l/blob/master/tools/smokeNsend.pl
15:13 kthakore szabgab: and http://sdlperl.ath.cx/proj​ects/SDLPerl/wiki/Testing
15:14 szabgab now you are asking for too much :-)
15:14 kthakore lol
15:14 kthakore I am not asking
15:14 kthakore I am just giving you links
15:14 kthakore ;)
15:14 kthakore szabgab: I have to reinstall padre from scratch no
15:14 kthakore now
15:14 kthakore szabgab: still can't get rid of that stupid bug
15:15 kthakore azaiwi looked at it and said it is something wrong with my install
15:15 kthakore #772
15:15 Hyppolit #772: Cannot Minimize window with Outline Window open (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/772#comment:2 ]
15:15 kthakore that one
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15:18 kthakore szabgab: acutally you don't need to do the smoke for SDL ... I ask too much sometimes ;p
15:18 kthakore szabgab: I will bug mst for it :)
15:18 kthakore yay
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15:50 kthakore crap ... my padre is super broken
15:51 shadowpaste "kthakore" at 217.168.144.84 pasted "SVN Padre is broken" (74 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/36922
15:52 kthakore :8(
16:03 teejay ouch
16:04 kthakore teejay: indeed
16:04 * teejay had it hang on file dialog in plugins
16:04 kthakore Hyppolit: SVN is BROKEN! http://scsys.co.uk:8001/36922
16:04 Hyppolit SVN was unknown
16:04 Hyppolit SVN is now BROKEN! http://scsys.co.uk:8001/36922
16:05 teejay I think a reboot and fsck fixed it
16:05 teejay I hope so
16:05 kthakore teejay: in windows?
16:05 teejay no, fedora
16:05 kthakore teejay: I am looking into it now
16:06 kthakore it would be nice to fix this before 0.51
16:06 szabgab kthakore, those test have been broken for a long time
16:06 szabgab the tests in the t/win32 directory I mean
16:06 kthakore :(
16:06 kthakore ok
16:06 szabgab I set the to skip now
16:07 kthakore szabgab: thenks
16:07 szabgab but if someone has the tuits to fix them that would be great
16:07 kthakore szabgab: but my padre will still not open
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16:17 kthakore szabgab: I am still getting that weird textbox on top of outline tab
16:17 szabgab I am sorry I have no clue about that, you'll have to talk to the windows experts here
16:18 kthakore szabgab: ok where is the code for this?
16:18 * kthakore prepares to HACK this bug into oblivion
16:18 kthakore Sewi?
16:18 Hyppolit Sewi is  and also cheating on ironman
16:18 kthakore lol
16:20 kthakore huh weird
16:20 kthakore no it doesn't happen if I have other windows open
16:21 kthakore s/no/now
16:23 szabgab maybe it is afraid in the dark
16:25 kthakore LMAO
16:25 kthakore where is the code for this?
16:26 kthakore I wanna put print stuff do I can track it down
16:26 kthakore also now
16:26 kthakore padre will not open standalone
16:26 kthakore only through dev.pl
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16:29 szabgab missing libs ?
16:30 kthakore no
16:30 kthakore if dev.pl works then it should work in strawberry too
16:30 kthakore right?
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16:34 szabgab dev.pl sets PERL5LIB I think
16:34 szabgab or -I
16:35 szabgab try to take dev.pl appart and see removing which part breaks it
16:35 szabgab that might help finding out what is missing
16:37 kthakore ok
16:51 kthakore /win 13
16:55 Hyppolit svn: r9471 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9471
16:55 Hyppolit minor fix to locale message
16:55 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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16:56 Sewi Hi all
17:00 Hyppolit svn: r9472 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9472
17:00 Hyppolit updated messages file for Catalyst plugin
17:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/share/locale/
17:00 Hyppolit svn: r9473 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9473
17:00 Hyppolit updated brazilian portuguese translation
17:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/share/locale/
17:00 garu Hi Sewi!
17:03 garu szabgab++, azawawi++  # update_pot_file.pl also working for plugins is just too sweet
17:04 kthakore hi garu
17:04 kthakore hi szabgab
17:05 kthakore oops
17:05 kthakore hi Sewi
17:05 kthakore szabgab: tthis is sooooo broken
17:05 kthakore szabgab:  I stripped everything out of ./dev.pl
17:05 kthakore szabgab: and still padre runs
17:05 kthakore :(
17:05 kthakore what is going on?
17:07 garu kthakore, maybe it's looking into your @INC and running system Padre instead of svn Padre?
17:07 garu morning kthakore :)
17:07 kthakore garu: morning
17:07 kthakore garu: I get bugs everywhere I go
17:07 kthakore I the fucking lord of the flies
17:07 kthakore :(
17:08 garu kthakore, show me a bug-free program, and I'll show you a program not tested thoroughly enough :)
17:09 kthakore garu: clear
17:09 kthakore garu: that is a bug free program
17:10 garu really? in all terminals and video formats?
17:10 kthakore up
17:10 kthakore try it out
17:11 garu I don't have access to non-standard terminals ;)
17:11 kthakore ok
17:12 kthakore see that is not a bug ten
17:12 kthakore clear on non standard terminal not working is enviromental problem
17:12 garu http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-03/msg01093.html
17:13 garu there you go
17:13 kthakore garu: I don't like you no more :p
17:13 garu :P
17:13 kthakore ew french kiss with a brazilian
17:14 kthakore I need to go wash my mouth
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17:23 Sewi Any progress on Ctrl-Tab?
17:24 kthakore Sewi:  are you asking me?
17:27 garu Sewi, oh, this reminds me... any luck with the doc-change hook for plugins?
17:34 Sewi kthakore: I'm asking everyone here.
17:34 kthakore ah
17:34 Sewi garu: Not now, was very busy working earlier.
17:34 kthakore yeah no clue
17:34 Sewi kthakore: But you're free to answer: "I know the reason and am currently fixing it" :)
17:35 garu Sewi, take your time :)
17:35 kthakore Sewi: lol I am hunting my own bug
17:35 kthakore Sewi: you hunt your own godamn bug
17:35 Sewi garu: If you want a menu, binding it to the document may be better.
17:36 garu Sewi, hm?
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17:38 Sewi But... Catalyst is no document, it won't work, sorry, I was wrong...
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17:39 garu yeah, that's the thing...
17:39 Sewi Here is a sample of what I'm talking about: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/browser/trunk/Pa​dre-Plugin-PHP/lib/Padre/Document/PHP.pm#L215 and http://padre.perlide.org/trac/browser/trunk​/Padre-Plugin-PHP/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/PHP.pm
17:42 garu Sewi, my take was to check whether active file is in a catalyst project dir... that's what I do to find start/stop dev server and all. If I could do it everytime the active document changed, I could provide the user with better input over what he can or cannot do
17:43 Sewi garu: Sorry, but I seem to be the wrong person for this as I don't really know the plugin interface at all.
17:43 garu :(
17:43 Sewi I have no idea how to create a plugin hook.
17:44 garu I don't think you can, today
17:44 garu which is why I got so excited when you said there might be a way :)
17:46 Sewi I see two main concepts for doing this: Either make a global registration where every plugin/module/etc. could register a CODE ref for a specific hook. It is added to an array and all of them are processed if the hook occurs. The other way would be going through all plugins can()'ing for the hook name
17:47 Sewi All other ideas are welcome.
17:51 Sewi What are  the current release plans?
17:56 garu I like idea #1
17:56 Hyppolit #1: Improve load time (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1#comment:5 ]
17:57 Sewi I just discovered that it is done as #2. I'll try to add your hook but I don't want this before 0.51 is out
17:57 Hyppolit #2: Improve search (assigned enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/2#comment:3 ]
18:00 garu Sewi, well, if it's already done as #2 I have no problem keeping it
18:00 Hyppolit #2: Improve search (assigned enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/2#comment:3 ]
18:00 garu as long as I can use it :)
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18:02 Hyppolit svn: r9474 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9474
18:02 Hyppolit a little encapsulation never hurt (and FIXME tag added for known panel bug)
18:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Catalyst/
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19:05 misterwhipple Good afternoon, all.
19:21 Sewi Hi
19:21 Sewi Do you need help?
20:12 Hyppolit svn: r9475 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9475
20:12 Hyppolit Updated messages.pot
20:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
20:13 Hyppolit svn: r9476 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9476
20:13 Hyppolit German translation at 100% again
20:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
20:18 Sewi Anybody knows if the release is done?
20:24 kthakore Sewi: it is done
20:24 kthakore tehre
20:24 Sewi I was too late with the translation :-(
20:24 Sewi thanks kthakore
20:24 kthakore Sewi: I was kidding put it up
20:24 kthakore it is not done
20:25 kthakore I am *NOT* the release manager
20:25 kthakore so whatever
20:25 Sewi By now, you are :-)
20:25 Sewi Just commited it r9476
20:25 Hyppolit Changeset #9476 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9476
20:25 misterwhipple Sewi: No help, thanks. I'm lurking.
20:27 kthakore wth ? how?
20:27 kthakore why do people keep telling me I am release manager :p
20:28 Sewi Because you say, you aren't :-)
20:29 Sewi And I got a pending update which I'd like to commit but not for 0.51 release - so I'm waiting for it to be done :-)
20:32 kthakore ok
20:51 Sewi kthakore: I got a proof that you are: "Alias2:garu: kthakore is doing a 0.51 release today I believe"
20:51 Sewi :-)
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21:07 Hyppolit svn: r9477 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9477
21:07 Hyppolit Fixed use of uninitilized value
21:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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21:22 kthakore Sewi: nooooooo
21:28 Sewi Sure, why not?
21:29 Sewi It's a warning which shouldn't happen, this is why I fixed it.

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