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| 02:42 | Hyppolit | #786: File Monitoring 2.0 (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/786 ] |
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| 03:44 | Hyppolit | svn: r9562 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9562 |
| 03:44 | Confirming the version of File::Path that we need | |
| 03:44 | trunk/Padre/ | |
| 03:46 | Alias | Test::Pasdf |
| 03:52 | Hyppolit | svn: r9563 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9563 |
| 03:52 | Added the "File Intuition" feature (it's a fairly terrible name and looks weird where it is in the File menu, but we can fix that later). | |
| 03:52 | ||
| 03:52 | Also removed a bunch of $DB::single = 1 usages. | |
| 03:52 | trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ | |
| 03:54 | Alias | <--- is awesome :) |
| 03:55 | Hyppolit | svn: r9564 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9564 |
| 03:55 | Another $DB::single = 1 | |
| 03:55 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ | |
| 03:56 | #787: Add a badcode enhancement or new xt test to watch for $DB::single (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/787 ] | |
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| 05:01 | Hyppolit | svn: r9565 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9565 |
| 05:01 | Added a one-off no critic for the (legitimate) specific and unusual case of setting $0 | |
| 05:01 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ | |
| 05:01 | Alias | It's oh so quiet |
| 05:01 | * Alias | wants purl in so he has someone to sing with' |
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| 06:15 | Sewi | gm |
| 06:17 | Alias | heya |
| 06:17 | I fixed your $0 problem | |
| 06:17 | I also added AWESOME new feature | |
| 06:21 | Sewi | Alias: thanks |
| 06:21 | which one? | |
| 06:23 | Hyppolit | svn: r9566 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9566 |
| 06:23 | Updated Changes | |
| 06:23 | trunk/Padre/ | |
| 06:35 | Alias | File -> Save Intuition |
| 06:35 | Open any file in the Padre project, then File -> New | |
| 06:35 | Then type "package Padre::Foo::Bar::Baz; | |
| 06:35 | and use strict; 1; whatever | |
| 06:36 | Then hit CTRL-SHIFT-S | |
| 06:36 | Sewi | And it will safe the file at the correct position? |
| 06:36 | Alias | No dialogs, and creating all the subdirectories, yes |
| 06:36 | Sewi | Cool |
| 06:36 | Alias | And if it can't be entirely confident it's doing the right thing, it bails out to a regular save dialog |
| 06:38 | Sewi | Did you blog about this? |
| 06:42 | Alias | Yup |
| 06:47 | garu | Alias, hey! |
| 06:47 | glad to find you online | |
| 06:47 | :) | |
| 06:48 | szabgab | gm |
| 06:48 | there seem to be a test failure in the smoker | |
| 06:49 | garu | morning szabgab |
| 06:50 | * Alias | shrugs |
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| 07:00 | szabgab | Can the Catalyst plugin used on a Catalyst installed on another perl ? |
| 07:01 | I am thinking about the Stand-Alone Padre where we assume the user have some other perl installed | |
| 07:01 | and that the other perl is used to run everything | |
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| 07:02 | azawawi | good morning |
| 07:02 | Sewi | hi |
| 07:04 | azawawi | hello |
| 07:06 | so what set of features are we targeting for 0.52? | |
| 07:07 | Alias | I've done the one I care about already :) |
| 07:07 | Hyppolit | svn: r9567 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9567 |
| 07:07 | fix smoker reporting name of missing prereq | |
| 07:07 | trunk/tools/ | |
| 07:07 | Alias | I'm also going to be fiddling with my new locking API a bit |
| 07:07 | To try and understand if I'm doing it properly | |
| 07:08 | szabgab | does the enable plugin work for you ? I need to restart Padre for it to take effect |
| 07:08 | Alias | I noticed that too |
| 07:08 | Something broke the plugin menu at some point | |
| 07:09 | azawawi | Alias: what was that? |
| 07:09 | Alias | Plugin enable/disable doesn't work properly any more |
| 07:10 | It regressed at some point while I wasn't around | |
| 07:10 | azawawi | :) |
| 07:10 | Sewi | It should work again for some days. |
| 07:11 | I tried it out (enabled a plugin) and it worked (appeared in the menu immed.) | |
| 07:18 | azawawi | Padre? |
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| 07:18 | Hyppolit | Padre is Perl Application Development and Refactoring Environment |
| 07:19 | azawawi | is Padre a smart IDE? |
| 07:20 | Alias++ # smart save... | |
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| 07:25 | * Sewi | away |
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| 07:40 | Alias | azawawi: More smarts to come later |
| 07:40 | szabgab | Alias, you don't need to be around for *every* regression ;-) |
| 07:40 | Alias | Clearly |
| 07:41 | But since I cause about half of them, I'm pretty much used to being around for the majority | |
| 07:41 | szabgab | so really what do you think about the recent XL Perl things ? |
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| 07:41 | Alias | I don't use linux on the desktop, so tbh I appreciate it don't really care much |
| 07:41 | I can't even release my plugins atm | |
| 07:41 | szabgab | Shall I keep calling it XL Perl |
| 07:42 | Alias | Because I don't have any linux machines I can install Padre on successfully |
| 07:42 | ah | |
| 07:42 | szabgab | or how ? |
| 07:42 | Alias | I find XL meaningless |
| 07:42 | It's Perl but bigger? | |
| 07:42 | szabgab | yes, that was part of the stupid idea |
| 07:42 | Alias | It's Padre Standalone for Linux right? |
| 07:42 | szabgab | also uniX and Linux |
| 07:42 | Alias | oh god |
| 07:42 | uniX + Linux FAIL | |
| 07:42 | szabgab | I think it is more similar to Strawberry |
| 07:43 | Alias | It's Perl + Padre yes? |
| 07:43 | szabgab | for now it is Perl + Padre |
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| 07:43 | Alias | Then just go with the Standalone moniker for now |
| 07:43 | szabgab | but soon it will also have Catalyst I think |
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| 07:43 | Alias | At least until after Strawberry has switched to Professional |
| 07:43 | I'd just name it based on what you have | |
| 07:43 | Standalone, In Three Varieties | |
| 07:43 | Seems fine to me for the moment | |
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| 07:44 | szabgab | It does not have a working CPAN.pm nor will it have one for some time |
| 07:45 | amitar | hi there - having probs bootstrapping local::lib, anyone free to help? |
| 07:45 | szabgab | as that would probably require dealing with compilers |
| 07:45 | Hi Amit | |
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| 07:45 | Alias | szabgab: Ah, right |
| 07:45 | amitar | hi |
| 07:45 | Alias | Regardless, Padre Standalone is fine by me |
| 07:45 | szabgab | this is not the perl support channel bu we can try to help as we are nice ;-) |
| 07:45 | Alias | It's the single most obvious name you could have atm |
| 07:45 | szabgab | what is the issue? |
| 07:46 | amitar | tks - (too many chans here did not know where to go) |
| 07:46 | szabgab | BTW I tried to build it on 5.11.2 and it was a huge fail |
| 07:47 | now I am thinking on starting to smoke it on perl blead and report any issues | |
| 07:47 | amitar | I try to install as user, but when I say yes to auto config it keeps trying to create /root/.cpan |
| 07:47 | * Alias | heads home |
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| 07:48 | szabgab | amitar, actually I think the best is to go over to #perl on freenode.net, I'll try to help you there but the authors of local::lib are also there |
| 07:48 | so they can help you more | |
| 07:49 | oh and I managed to fix the smoker | |
| 07:49 | amitar, ?? | |
| 07:50 | amitar | sry, I seem to interrupt conversation. which is the "perl support channel?" |
| 07:51 | Alias | Did you get here from the Padre help menu? |
| 07:51 | zamolxes | or #local-lib |
| 07:51 | Alias | If so Help -> Live Support -> Perl Help |
| 07:51 | szabgab | amitar, is a Python spy whom we are going to forcibly move to use Perl :-) |
| 07:52 | amitar, one thing to warn you don't go to #perl on irc.perl.org , that is an accident in history | |
| 07:57 | waxhead | really? #perl on irc.perl.org isn't an active perl channel? |
| 07:57 | zamolxes | waxhead: .. I don't like that place |
| 07:58 | waxhead | What do people think of 2 more releases before christmas with a break until about the 23rd of Jan? |
| 07:58 | go figure... seems ironic that #perl on irc.perl.org isn't the place "to be"... | |
| 07:59 | zamolxes | ah, it was 'on irc.perl.org' . oh, that's fun. I don't like the one on freenode |
| 08:00 | waxhead | about the release schedule, I've sent something through the dev mailnig list |
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| 08:09 | szabgab | waxhead, it is active but it is a social channel and they are not friendly to newcommers |
| 08:10 | anyway, I have not seen amitar joining either channels we suggested | |
| 08:12 | I think I am going to be around as in our area Christmas isn't that high on the vacation time, actually we have 8 days of Hannukah but that will be next week I think | |
| 08:15 | waxhead | ok.. we'll see how it goes... I'm not going away myself.. and likely spend a bit of time fiddling with things... so I'll be monitoring the Changes file.. :) |
| 08:17 | wow.. there's quite a bit of change/improvements already to thinkg about 0.52 | |
| 08:22 | Hyppolit | svn: r9568 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9568 |
| 08:22 | [XL] add --perl flag replacing --devperl | |
| 08:22 | trunk/Perl-Dist-XL/lib/Perl/Dist/ trunk/Perl-Dist-XL/script/ | |
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| 09:44 | szabgab | Alias, ping |
| 09:45 | Alias, will we have Strawberry professional on a stick in time to put it on CDs for FOSDEM in early February ? | |
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| 09:57 | waxhead | hey Alias_ |
| 09:57 | Alias_ | Heya |
| 09:57 | ZOMG INTERWEBS AT HOME | |
| 09:57 | And commit rate plummits | |
| 09:57 | waxhead | :) |
| 09:58 | did you look into those crtitic test fails at all? | |
| 09:58 | I've got another matchine to release from, but it's not got critic installed... | |
| 09:58 | Alias_ | I honestly have NFI how to replicate your issue |
| 10:00 | ooo, term of the day | |
| 10:00 | "Throwaway Hyperbole" | |
| 10:00 | Term to use if anyone ever calls you out on something fairly aggressive you said in the past :) | |
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| 10:06 | waxhead | nice |
| 10:07 | well, the problem wasn't reproduced by anyone else either | |
| 10:07 | I'm not sure what the difference is.. It's ubuntu with alot of stuff installed with cpan | |
| 10:08 | looking at the test seems to imply that you have to have an environment variable set to trigger the test | |
| 10:17 | Alias_ | Anyone awake? |
| 10:17 | Can someone check my logic? | |
| 10:18 | I want to implement a warning-style "Are you sure?" type confirmation box | |
| 10:18 | With a "Don't ask this again" type checkbox | |
| 10:18 | Now, what I'm thinking is to make a whole new category of "Human"-class configuration values | |
| 10:19 | Because we want those "don't show me this again" to span across multiple systems as the user moves around | |
| 10:19 | waxhead | Alias_, has it been checked in? |
| 10:20 | Alias_ | No, I haven't even written it yet |
| 10:20 | I've just checked in the raw gui for the warning box, straight from the wxGlade dump | |
| 10:20 | szabgab | ho |
| 10:20 | waxhead | can we use glade dumps in full? |
| 10:20 | Alias_ | I wanted to check before I go ahead and take us down the path to add another 40 or 50 config params |
| 10:20 | waxhead: "in full" ? | |
| 10:21 | waxhead | glade dump.. |
| 10:21 | with out modifying it.. | |
| 10:21 | Alias_ | ah, no |
| 10:21 | waxhead | I read your blog about a while back |
| 10:21 | Alias_ | But I wrote Padre::Plugin::wxGlade |
| 10:21 | You point it at the output dump, and it does the discovery/extract/transform/generate to make the main chunk of the GUI | |
| 10:22 | I'm going to gradually make it generate a bigger percentage of the final code | |
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| 10:22 | szabgab | Alias_, will we have Strawberry professional on a stick in time to put it on CDs for FOSDEM in early February ? |
| 10:22 | Alias_ | szabgab: That would be a pretty risky assumption |
| 10:22 | Maybe... but I wouldn't bet on it | |
| 10:22 | Can you make a professional looking CD? :) | |
| 10:23 | szabgab | we are hopefully going to prepare a CD with stuff on it |
| 10:23 | I hope there will be some people who make it | |
| 10:23 | see the new Events group http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]/index.cgi?events | |
| 10:24 | kthakore, ping | |
| 10:30 | Alias_ | Isn't there somewhere we can get them made 50 at a time or something? |
| 10:35 | szabgab | Someone will take responsibility of producing these CDs and find that out, |
| 10:35 | and I hope we get budget from TPF | |
| 10:36 | Alias_ | I have been pondering the idea of adding a paid download for Strawberry |
| 10:36 | I think it might come to a head with Professional | |
| 10:37 | It makes sense if we then spend that money on promotion and so on | |
| 10:39 | szabgab | what will cost money ? |
| 10:39 | Alias_ | I'm not ENTIRELY sure |
| 10:39 | Theoretically, I'm thinking of just doing a $0, $10, $50 page | |
| 10:40 | For Padre, I quite like the idea of registering it | |
| 10:40 | To get the server-side mesh services | |
| 10:40 | szabgab | http://www.transmissionbt.com/donate.php |
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| 10:41 | Alias_ | I've put up "please donate" type stuff before |
| 10:41 | szabgab | You could try to setup such thing for Strawberry Perl |
| 10:41 | Alias_ | And I see jack all |
| 10:41 | I'd rather "sell" it somehow | |
| 10:41 | szabgab | 0 ? |
| 10:41 | Alias_ | Have you done any kind of donation requesting? |
| 10:41 | szabgab | nope |
| 10:41 | Alias_ | From what I can see, mostly it just annoys people for $5 and $5 there |
| 10:41 | szabgab | that link was in the Help menu of the application |
| 10:42 | Alias_ | What none of these things say is how much they actually make |
| 10:42 | szabgab | I am in favor of a the recurring donations |
| 10:42 | Alias_ | Small recurring donations are good for people |
| 10:42 | Not so good for companies | |
| 10:42 | I'm not sure how we'd sell something to companies | |
| 10:42 | szabgab | I'd rather giv 5 USD monthly for a year than 30 at one time |
| 10:43 | Alias_ | As a person, absolutely |
| 10:43 | You need to have a way to fight against apathy | |
| 10:43 | And, if they've agreed to donate, it makes sense to bill incrementally and unobtrusively | |
| 10:43 | szabgab | for companies I am working on a membership service |
| 10:43 | Alias_ | Membership of Padre? |
| 10:43 | or Perl in general? | |
| 10:43 | szabgab | we'll see |
| 10:44 | Alias_ | You know, we have a very real chance of being able to gain significant support |
| 10:44 | szabgab | If I can get then for Perl in general |
| 10:44 | Alias_ | Since we're actively in people's faces 8 hours a day |
| 10:44 | As an IDE | |
| 10:45 | szabgab | As a start I would be ok to setup such a donation page and add a link to the Padre Help menu linking to it |
| 10:46 | Alias_ | I'm not sure that's necesarily a good idea |
| 10:46 | I wouldn't want to start in a needy/donation frame of mind, then try to switch later | |
| 10:48 | I don't necesarily want to make a profit-seeking company | |
| 10:49 | szabgab | What about putting on the donation page sg that indicates this is for individuals and companies will have a membership thingy? |
| 10:49 | Alias_ | I object to the WORD donation |
| 10:49 | szabgab | I guess the donations could go for paying for things that cost money |
| 10:49 | ah | |
| 10:49 | Alias_ | Registration, sure |
| 10:49 | Purchase, sure | |
| 10:50 | Donation implies needyness and weakness | |
| 10:50 | Look at Wikipedia | |
| 10:50 | struggle every uyear | |
| 10:50 | szabgab | I have the same problem with sponsorship bw |
| 10:50 | Alias_ | But they pull it off, because they are one of the biggest websites in the entire world |
| 10:50 | szabgab | oh, I did not have that impression about wikipedia |
| 10:50 | Alias_ | When you have 200 million users, you have some options |
| 10:51 | szabgab | that they strugle |
| 10:51 | look at Eclipse | |
| 10:51 | they have membership and charge 100,000 USD or more from some companies | |
| 10:51 | annually | |
| 10:51 | Alias_ | That's because companies can use them to make money |
| 10:52 | Companies sell commercial products based on it | |
| 10:52 | szabgab | Cisco ? |
| 10:52 | I don't think so | |
| 10:52 | Alias_ | Quite possibly |
| 10:52 | szabgab | but I agree that what you said is one of the reason |
| 10:52 | that's where we need to go | |
| 10:52 | Alias_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L[…]se-based_software |
| 10:52 | szabgab | with Padre and with Perl in general |
| 10:53 | Alias_ | Look at the range of commercial corporate crapware dev tools based on it |
| 10:55 | Perl isn't a commercial language like Java | |
| 10:55 | So I'm not sure we can copy their financial model | |
| 10:56 | szabgab | I'd be ok with 10% of it :-) |
| 10:56 | anyway, I have a portble question | |
| 10:56 | Alias_ | shoot |
| 10:57 | szabgab | when I build a portable perl on linux it still needs the sh-bang in certain scripts |
| 10:57 | if I move the installation to another place these paths are broken | |
| 10:57 | Alias_ | Yes |
| 10:57 | I think portability on linux could be trickier than on Windows | |
| 10:57 | szabgab | + I would like to make sure it disregards PERL5LIB and PERLLIB |
| 10:58 | Sewi gave me a shell scrip I should look at, and maybe paste that in the beginning of every perl script | |
| 10:59 | I add this shell script now to the distro Perl-Dist-XL/share/files/padre.sh.tmpl | |
| 11:00 | Alias_ | Yup |
| 11:00 | Are you trying to actually use Portable.pm? | |
| 11:01 | szabgab | nope, |
| 11:02 | Alias_ | It should support something other than Win32 |
| 11:02 | szabgab | I just built it with -Duserelocatableinc |
| 11:02 | and then it works | |
| 11:02 | two main issues I'd like to deal with is what I mentioned | |
| 11:06 | zamolxes | szabgab: like http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/9 ? :) garu++ |
| 11:07 | szabgab | we like hobbitz |
| 11:09 | Hyppolit | svn: r9569 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9569 |
| 11:09 | link to the Catalyst Advent calendar | |
| 11:09 | trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ | |
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| 11:56 | Alias_ | szabgab: BTW, examples of people that solicit donation |
| 11:56 | http://www.screamer-radio.com/contributors/ | |
| 11:56 | waxhead | I still think we need a toolbar that plugins can register with and use.... the menu system gets a bit painful to use after awhile. |
| 11:56 | Alias_ | Hugely popular music player |
| 11:56 | $2000 over something like 2 years | |
| 11:56 | waxhead | of course in saying that I have no idea how to implement something like that |
| 11:56 | Alias_ | oh wait, it's 2 years since he stopped maintaining the list of contributors |
| 11:56 | waxhead | I might fiddle around with the AUI toolbar stuff on my holidays... |
| 11:57 | Alias_ | So that's more like a few hundred dollars a year |
| 11:58 | waxhead | ok.. it's late.. time for bed.. |
| 11:58 | nite | |
| 11:58 | Alias_ | Ah, here |
| 11:58 | $2000 over 7 years | |
| 12:05 | szabgab | Alias_, that's not much |
| 12:11 | kthakore | szabgab: pong? |
| 12:12 | szabgab | kthakore, I was wondering about the liveCD |
| 12:13 | if you write up you plans, ask for help, who will make the cover design etc... | |
| 12:14 | kthakore | szabgab: ask FROGGS??? |
| 12:14 | he is good at that stuff | |
| 12:14 | Alias_ | A butterfly fits quite nicely on a CD |
| 12:14 | kthakore | Alias_: um ... it is not PADRE only |
| 12:14 | Alias_: it is Perl | |
| 12:14 | Alias_ | ... because Perl doesn't usually come with Linux? |
| 12:15 | kthakore | no perl projects |
| 12:15 | so SDL, PDL, Padre, Frozen Bubble, Jquelin's games, other stuff you know? | |
| 12:15 | not only Padre | |
| 12:15 | and videos | |
| 12:16 | Alias_ | And this has all been implemented? |
| 12:16 | szabgab | have to go now, kthakore please ask FROGGS to talk about it on the new events list |
| 12:16 | kthakore | Alias_: no ... but that is what I going for |
| 12:17 | szabgab: I will send out email at end of week | |
| 12:17 | Alias_ | kthakore: I take the attitude that you play to the strengths of what you have NOW, while working for the next thing behind the scenes |
| 12:17 | kthakore | Alias_: um sure ... is that bad? |
| 12:17 | Alias_ | kthakore: If each step along the path to the final goal is a legitimate entity in it's own right, you are more likely to pick up momentum from each step |
| 12:18 | So what we have right now is basically Padre standalone for Linux | |
| 12:18 | In Live CD form | |
| 12:18 | Pending you guys getting SDL/games etc up and running again | |
| 12:18 | So use it as that | |
| 12:18 | kthakore | Alias_: um ... you do relaize I am doing this for SDL not inly Padre |
| 12:18 | Alias_ | sure |
| 12:18 | kthakore | ok |
| 12:18 | Alias_ | But you don't have SDL yet right? |
| 12:19 | I mean, it's coming, but it's not real yet, yes? | |
| 12:19 | kthakore | so if I am doing all the work I will be flaunting our hard work |
| 12:19 | Alias_ | Can't we do both? |
| 12:19 | kthakore | Alias_: it is real ... 1400 passing testcase on 3 platforms beg to differ |
| 12:19 | Alias_: sure | |
| 12:19 | szabgab | Alias, it is not related to the Padre standalone for linux |
| 12:19 | Alias_ | szabgab: oh, sorry |
| 12:19 | kthakore | szabgab: thank you ... |
| 12:19 | Alias_ | kthakore: 1400 out of how many? :) |
| 12:20 | kthakore | 1568 |
| 12:20 | szabgab | 1200 written |
| 12:20 | Alias_ | "Real" software passes tests :) |
| 12:20 | (all) | |
| 12:20 | :) | |
| 12:20 | kthakore | Alias_: please check http://sdl.perl.org |
| 12:20 | documentation + smolder | |
| 12:20 | :) | |
| 12:20 | Alias_: I don't think I can get more real than that | |
| 12:21 | Alias_ | Real software ships |
| 12:21 | kthakore | Alias_: 3 release on CPAN |
| 12:21 | szabgab | real ships soft |
| 12:21 | kthakore | please read yapgh.blogspot.com |
| 12:21 | Alias_ | kthakore: non-dev? |
| 12:21 | kthakore | Alias_: :p |
| 12:21 | Alias_: I don't like you much sometimes | |
| 12:21 | :p | |
| 12:22 | Alias_ | kthakore: Hey, you know I <3 you guys |
| 12:22 | I think the whole "New SDL" is awesome | |
| 12:22 | kthakore | Alias_: please come and help rather then set arbitary standards for us :p |
| 12:22 | Alias_ | I just have a brutal approach when it comes to the practical side of things |
| 12:22 | :) | |
| 12:22 | Alas, games just don't interest me that much | |
| 12:23 | kthakore | what is not practical about 4000+ commits in less then 3 months |
| 12:23 | Alias_ | I'm a player, not a writeer |
| 12:23 | kthakore | by only two guys |
| 12:23 | Alias_ | writer |
| 12:23 | kthakore | sure I know you 'love' us but when you say it is not real it feels like a slap in the face |
| 12:23 | Alias_ | practicality != work |
| 12:24 | kthakore | Alias_: ok ... I gtg to work |
| 12:24 | Alias_ | Padre, for example, still isn't really useful yet |
| 12:24 | But, like SDL, it has HUGE promise | |
| 12:25 | kthakore | szabgab: I will send out that list of stuff fro the FOSDEM cd to the mailing list |
| 12:25 | Alias_ | i.e. It WILL be awesome, if we don't screw up |
| 12:25 | kthakore | Alias_: ok ... thank you |
| 12:25 | Alias_ | Which is at least half the battle |
| 12:26 | There distinguishing factor here is distance vs velocity | |
| 12:26 | Two of my favourite Windows apps work brilliantly and I use them on every machine | |
| 12:26 | So huge practicality | |
| 12:26 | But for all intents and purposes, they are both dead | |
| 12:26 | Because they are freeware apps, both (oddly) by Swedes, that have all but stopped development | |
| 12:26 | And both refuse to open source them | |
| 12:27 | And the scorecard for projects has those two different sides | |
| 12:27 | Position, and Velocity | |
| 12:27 | kthakore | Alias_: bye now :) |
| 12:27 | Alias_ | later |
| 12:28 | </rant< | |
| 12:28 | kthakore | Alias_: no worries continue |
| 12:28 | Alias_ | It's ok |
| 12:28 | kthakore | it is not like I am listening anyway :p |
| 12:28 | Alias_ | You get my point though? |
| 12:28 | kthakore | nope I only hack ... I don't listen :p |
| 12:28 | Alias_ | heh |
| 12:28 | When I can play PB, I'll be happy | |
| 12:29 | kthakore | Alias_: FB? |
| 12:29 | what is PB? | |
| 12:29 | Alias_ | And I'll happily ship it in Strawberry Professional |
| 12:29 | Puzzle | |
| 12:29 | ... Bobble | |
| 12:29 | kthakore | whut? |
| 12:29 | no | |
| 12:29 | Alias_ | oh wait, wrong one |
| 12:29 | Frozen | |
| 12:29 | kthakore | Frozen Bubble |
| 12:29 | Alias_ | :) |
| 12:29 | kthakore | right |
| 12:29 | Alias_ | There's your "position" |
| 12:29 | One I can ship it, it's real :) | |
| 12:30 | Anyways, go to work, and I'll go to bed | |
| 12:30 | kthakore | blah .... then come help use MAKE IT REAL!!! |
| 12:30 | Alias_: fine run away :p | |
| 12:30 | Alias_ | What could I do that wouldn't involve C or graphics hacking? |
| 12:30 | Reassign you PAUSE permissions? | |
| 12:31 | kthakore | Alias_: docs, test cases, updating tickets, we have to make tutorials |
| 12:31 | clean up Build system | |
| 12:31 | make it easier to ship ... | |
| 12:31 | talk to me later | |
| 12:31 | I gtg | |
| 12:31 | Alias_ | None of that looks like anything I can do much about as an outsider |
| 12:31 | How about I keep working on making Padre better :) | |
| 12:33 | night | |
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| 12:43 | shadowpaste | "brunov" at 190.191.110.64 pasted "local::lib and Padre? Ubuntu 9.10" (6 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/37093 |
| 12:43 | brunov | Hi everyone! Have some troubles running padre on Ubuntu 9.10 having a local perl5 |
| 12:47 | I pasted the error I get when running padre (installed from the official repositories) from the command line | |
| 12:49 | ok, I just fixed it by resetting PERL5LIB correctly. Thanks anyway! | |
| 13:08 | Sewi | Hi |
| 13:12 | back | |
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| 14:46 | Hyppolit | svn: r9570 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9570 |
| 14:46 | [XL] better command line arg handling | |
| 14:46 | trunk/Perl-Dist-XL/script/ | |
| 14:48 | svn: r9571 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9571 | |
| 14:48 | better capture failure installing module | |
| 14:48 | trunk/Perl-Dist-XL/ trunk/Perl-Dist-XL/lib/Perl/Dist/ | |
| 15:01 | kthakore | /win 2 |
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| 15:37 | garu | should we put a Holiday easter egg in Padre? |
| 15:39 | szabgab | is this Christmas now ? |
| 15:39 | or Easter? | |
| 15:40 | garu, what did you have on your mind? | |
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| 16:00 | szabgab | http://www.reddit.com/r/progra[…]ui_in_windows_to/ |
| 16:16 | daxim | I got FAIL test results because of File::ShareDir. it apparently doesn't know the share file location at test time, only after install time |
| 16:16 | does anyone know a work-around? | |
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| 17:49 | holli | i have a strange bug here. sometimes when padre recognizes a file has changed and displays a popup (reload y/n) the dialog seems to capture the mouse click event systemwide (under kde) |
| 17:49 | i cannot click on anything (not even the buttons of the dialog). when i kill padre, everything is back to normal. | |
| 17:50 | Sewi | hi holli |
| 17:50 | Which OS and Padre version? | |
| 17:50 | holli | Kubuntu karmic, let me check the other |
| 17:51 | 0,42 | |
| 17:52 | Sewi | Do you want to upgrade? Current is 0.51 |
| 17:52 | just type "sudo cpan Padre" | |
| 17:52 | holli | i have installed it via apt |
| 17:52 | i think | |
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| 17:53 | Sewi | 0.42 shouldn't have this issue anyway, but it's hard to debug now, nearly 10 versions later. |
| 17:55 | holli | mmh, ok. i'll try to install from cpan and see where that gets me |
| 17:57 | Sewi | You should set "prerequisites-policy" to follow, Padre has some dependencies... |
| 17:57 | You should have most of them with 0.42 but some may need updates. | |
| 18:03 | jq | fwiw, i encounter the same problem from time to time |
| 18:03 | i didn't report it since it's hard to trigger | |
| 18:04 | i *think* it happens more often when you change a lot of files underneath padre | |
| 18:07 | Hyppolit | #747: undo not undoing enough (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ket/747#comment:3 ] |
| 18:08 | kthakore | /win 2 |
| 18:15 | Sewi | there is a "reload all files" in the file menu |
| 18:15 | I usually fire this after running svn update | |
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| 18:28 | garu | szabgab, I'm not sure, maybe a "The Padre team wishes you happy holidays!" message box popping up the first time Padre opens after Christmas Eve |
| 18:29 | or a special holiday logo | |
| 18:29 | (for splash) | |
| 18:29 | or both | |
| 18:29 | or something else entirely | |
| 18:29 | :) | |
| 18:35 | zamolxes | oh butbut it will be offensive to people of different religions or atheists :) |
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| 18:42 | szabgab | zamolxes, someone always gets offended |
| 18:43 | zamolxes | but it also has a very religous name, padre |
| 18:43 | szabgab | Maybe the next version should be with a Chanukia |
| 18:43 | zamolxes | are you a cult? |
| 18:43 | szabgab | not yet ;-) |
| 18:47 | zamolxes | well, you can always include http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Cthulhu_Day and make everyone happy |
| 18:56 | garu | Cthulhu fhtagn! |
| 18:57 | this is why I mentioned just "happy holidays" | |
| 18:57 | not merry christmas or happy chanukia | |
| 18:58 | the dec.25 date is just because we need a date | |
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| 18:59 | garu | and it's usually a holiday in most countries, even if they don't celebrate christmas |
| 19:27 | kent\n | I only just really discovered the auto-expansion of sub Name { to have my $self in it, is there an easy way to adjust that to use "my ( $self, ) = @_ " notation instead by default? |
| 19:28 | zamolxes | hmm. is any padre developer a big textmate fan? Never used the software, but I see people are very very excited about it, i'm thinking we should steal anything we can |
| 19:32 | kent\n | saturnalia not doing it for you? :( |
| 19:32 | zamolxes | saturwhat? |
| 19:32 | kent\n | its another holiday ^_^ |
| 19:35 | szabgab | then for every release we should add Happy holidays :-) |
| 19:35 | kent\n | happy slavery! |
| 19:36 | Hyppolit | svn: r9572 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9572 |
| 19:36 | [XL] list all the prereqs of the Perl 6 plugin | |
| 19:36 | trunk/Perl-Dist-XL/lib/Perl/Dist/ | |
| 19:39 | garu | kent\n, this should be somewhat configurable, I guess |
| 19:41 | kent\n | garu: at present, it also doesnt play nice with my prefered indent style either |
| 19:45 | Sewi | kent\n: It was a test, I want a lot other "macros" but they should be fully configurable. |
| 19:46 | kent\n | either way, I like the idea, more on this++ |
| 19:49 | Sewi | kent\n: Please open a ticket on it and add a list of useful macros as they come to your mind. I'm thinking about a Padre function delivered with a predefined macro set which acts like a a default configuration, but could be altered as if they were defined by the user |
| 19:50 | kent\n | you think it would be plausible to enable different macros based on 'use' declarations visible in what looks like the same scope? |
| 19:51 | * kent\n | is thinking along the lines of a Moose 'has' macro |
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| 20:03 | garu | Sewi, or maybe overriden by plugins |
| 20:03 | :) | |
| 20:10 | Sewi | kent\n: Adding a condition should be easy |
| 20:11 | garu: Plugins (like Catalyst :-) ) should be able to add macros some way but maybe it would be easier to catch the event. | |
| 20:12 | garu: Sorry for not answering your question from tomorrow (last night for you) earlier, I lost the whole day due to a bad teacher who didn't appear :-( | |
| 20:17 | What about a Padre world map showing all the countries where developers come from? It would be rather impressive... | |
| 20:41 | garu | I got a request about letting users write macros for Padre the same way they do for vim |
| 20:42 | szabgab | garu, I need your help soon |
| 20:43 | will you be around the next 30-60 minutes? | |
| 20:43 | garu | szabgab, sure, just ping me then :) |
| 20:43 | szabgab | do you have a linux machine without Catalyst and without Padre ? |
| 20:48 | crap I get segmentation fault when exiting padre | |
| 20:48 | very strange | |
| 20:49 | only since I installed the Catalyst plugin | |
| 20:52 | garu, have you seen a segfault when using the Catalyst plugin when exiting Padre? | |
| 20:53 | garu | hmmm... not sure, I see segfaults all the time :) |
| 20:53 | szabgab | if I disable the plugin I don't get segfault |
| 20:53 | I don't | |
| 20:53 | Sewi | szabgab: did you try a strace? something this helps... |
| 20:53 | garu | can you help me reproduce it? |
| 20:53 | szabgab | only now that I tried the Catalyst plugin |
| 20:53 | garu | it's probably my fault then :) |
| 20:54 | szabgab | open padre, enable Catalys, close padre |
| 20:54 | segfault | |
| 20:54 | garu | just a sec |
| 20:54 | szabgab, 0.51 or svn? | |
| 20:54 | szabgab | everything from CPAN |
| 20:54 | 0.51 | |
| 20:55 | and perl 5.10.1 | |
| 20:55 | garu | hmm |
| 20:56 | I see the segfault | |
| 20:57 | strange, if I disable the plugin, the catalyst server menu doesn't go off | |
| 20:57 | Sewi | garu: 0.51 or trunk? |
| 20:57 | szabgab | no it needs a restarte |
| 20:57 | garu | and after closing padre I get "Illegal instruction" (whatever that is) |
| 20:57 | szabgab | http://perlide.org/download/bi[…].1-xl-0.03.tar.gz |
| 20:58 | garu | Sewi, 0.51 |
| 20:58 | Sewi | fixed in trunk |
| 20:58 | szabgab | garu try downloading that link |
| 20:58 | unzip it | |
| 20:58 | garu | szabgab, I don't have a virgin box to play with |
| 20:58 | szabgab | and run perl-5.10.1-xl-0.03/perl/bin/padre.sh |
| 20:58 | make sure PERL5LIB and PERLLIB are not configured | |
| 20:59 | that should be enough more or less | |
| 20:59 | this is a new build of the Padre stand alone for linux that contains Perl 6 and Catalyst | |
| 21:00 | and my blog is almost done to announce it | |
| 21:00 | garu | cool |
| 21:00 | szabgab | so I'd appreciate if you tried it and let me know if the Catalyst part works or not |
| 21:00 | garu | ok, give me some minutes please |
| 21:03 | * szabgab | hands over some minutes |
| 21:05 | * garu | downloads |
| 21:09 | garu | 30M |
| 21:10 | guess it's still smaller than eclipse :) | |
| 21:10 | Sewi | garu: It's nothing compared to visual studio :-)) |
| 21:10 | garu | indeed :) |
| 21:11 | szabgab | it is smaller than Eclipse and it contains the run-time and the compiler as well :-) |
| 21:11 | and 2 plugins (I hope :-) | |
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| 21:12 | * garu | unpacks |
| 21:12 | Sewi | Hi brunov |
| 21:13 | brunov | hi Sewi |
| 21:13 | kthakore | szabgab: I want christmast gift tooo :() |
| 21:13 | szabgab | kthakore, we'll see if I can build that beast and include the runtime in the package |
| 21:14 | Sewi | brunov: Do you need help? |
| 21:14 | szabgab | but I will only build released stable versions |
| 21:14 | kthakore | okie |
| 21:15 | brunov | Sewi, not anymore I think, thanks! It was a problem with PERL5LIB |
| 21:15 | Sewi | brunov: ok |
| 21:15 | brunov | thanks a lot though! |
| 21:17 | garu | ,,,and it keeps untarring |
| 21:17 | kthakore | garu: heh you have a tarbomb |
| 21:17 | garu | oh noes |
| 21:18 | szabgab fooled me! noooooooooooooooooooooooooo........... * | |
| 21:18 | :) | |
| 21:18 | Sewi | garu: Skip reading a few channel lines, please :-) |
| 21:18 | garu | szabgab, please remember to add in the post that it might take a while to untar everything in a slow machine :) |
| 21:18 | Hyppolit | svn: r9573 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9573 |
| 21:18 | Adding the menu hook (I told garu it already exists) | |
| 21:18 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ | |
| 21:18 | garu | hehe |
| 21:18 | szabgab | file size on my machine: 30009562 |
| 21:19 | is that what you have? | |
| 21:21 | garu | yeah, but I tried running it in a virtual machine with a very slow fifo |
| 21:21 | not I have "no space left on device" :( | |
| 21:21 | let me run it in my system instead | |
| 21:22 | it eats up over 150M | |
| 21:24 | s/fifo/io/ | |
| 21:29 | szabgab | 119 Mb opened on my machine |
| 21:29 | garu | ah, much better in my local machine |
| 21:29 | virtualbox-- | |
| 21:30 | szabgab | I built it in a virtualbox and tested it also there |
| 21:30 | but then they each have 512 Mb memory | |
| 21:30 | kent\n | small things amuse small minds: BEGIN { system("beep"); } # stick this in a random document and edit in in padre =P |
| 21:30 | szabgab | and can freely use a core :-) |
| 21:30 | * garu | jealous |
| 21:31 | szabgab | yeah, this is a new quad core machine with 4Gb memory |
| 21:31 | garu | szabgab, do I have to be in a particular base dir before running the script? |
| 21:31 | szabgab | and I am thinking adding 4 more Gig |
| 21:31 | garu | ouch |
| 21:31 | szabgab | theoretically not |
| 21:31 | garu | ok |
| 21:33 | szabgab | kent\n, yeah, you could also try BEGIN { system "rm -rf /" } in a file :-) |
| 21:33 | garu | but... don't :) |
| 21:33 | * kent\n | thinks thats an exploit waiting to happen one day |
| 21:34 | szabgab | Alias, wrote a journal entry about it a few months ago |
| 21:34 | kent\n | executive summary = ? |
| 21:34 | garu | better find a link |
| 21:34 | it was in April 1st | |
| 21:34 | szabgab | Padre should not retain the "syntax checker on" flag |
| 21:34 | when restarting | |
| 21:35 | no, April first was when he killed PAUSE and CPAN | |
| 21:35 | much better than a single desktop ... | |
| 21:36 | garu | szabgab, there's a bug in the catalyst plugin I just found out... do we have time for me to fix it and release 0.08? |
| 21:37 | szabgab | I'd rather let it go out this way |
| 21:37 | garu | but he killed PAUSE using that flaw |
| 21:37 | szabgab | and build a new one in 1-2 days |
| 21:37 | garu | no problem, let me finish testing then |
| 21:37 | szabgab | unless it is a horrible bug |
| 21:37 | garu | it absolutely ROCKS btw... though I can't be certain it works since my machine is rigged with modules |
| 21:38 | szabgab, not horrible, it just crashes Padre if you try to start the catalyst dev server with no file open at all :) | |
| 21:38 | kent\n | *sigh* any easy way to solve the @INC issue automatically when working on a project with inter-module "use" |
| 21:39 | * kent\n | keeps having it bitch about @INC |
| 21:39 | szabgab | you are getting closer to actually fix it in Padre, don't you :-) |
| 21:40 | garu, so I think I post my blog now | |
| 21:40 | oh, btw do you see the segfault when you close padre ? | |
| 21:40 | kent\n | just auto-add ../../../ to @INC when inside Foo::Bar::Baz::Quux.pm would do the trick |
| 21:40 | szabgab | the one you got from me ? |
| 21:41 | garu | szabgab, I found something missing |
| 21:41 | szabgab | crap |
| 21:41 | I am dead tired, what is missing ? | |
| 21:41 | and how did you find it if it is missing ? | |
| 21:41 | kthakore | szabgab: magical fairy dust |
| 21:41 | garu | Catalyst::View::TT I think |
| 21:41 | Sewi | no segfault here with catalyst plugin |
| 21:41 | But on 32bit | |
| 21:42 | kthakore | szabgab: or that |
| 21:42 | szabgab: :p | |
| 21:42 | szabgab | Sewi, I get it only after I close Padre |
| 21:42 | garu | Sewi, it just happens when closing Padre with the plugin on |
| 21:42 | kthakore | garu: not a good time now eh ... |
| 21:42 | szabgab: sorry | |
| 21:42 | szabgab | kthakore, heh ? |
| 21:42 | garu | kthakore, :P |
| 21:43 | kthakore | szabgab: what is missing? magical fairy dust ' |
| 21:43 | Sewi | sure, but I closed padre with enabled catalyst plugin but without any error |
| 21:43 | szabgab | is it missing ? |
| 21:43 | kthakore | szabgab: this was before you said: magical fairy dust |
| 21:43 | oops | |
| 21:43 | garu | Sewi, cool |
| 21:43 | kthakore | before I read your were itred |
| 21:43 | crap | |
| 21:43 | tired | |
| 21:43 | garu | szabgab, when one clicks on Catalyst->New->View, it looks for helper scripts |
| 21:43 | kthakore | szabgab: I am being silly ignore me |
| 21:43 | szabgab | scripts? |
| 21:44 | that might not work | |
| 21:44 | garu | Catalyst::Helper::* |
| 21:44 | not scripts, modules | |
| 21:44 | they're just called that | |
| 21:44 | szabgab | and they are not there ? |
| 21:45 | which module sets them as prereq? | |
| 21:45 | garu | and, although not -essential-, its good to have at least Catalyst::Helper::TT and Catalyst::Helper::DBIC::Schema |
| 21:46 | make that Catalyst::Helper::View::TT and Catalyst::Helper::Model::DBIC::Schema | |
| 21:47 | that's Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema and Catalyst::View::TT packages from CPAN | |
| 21:47 | szabgab | I have not checked it yet but maybe this means the plugin also needs to depend on these? |
| 21:47 | garu | they are not essential for the plugin, but you're right |
| 21:47 | I'll put them in the recommended list | |
| 21:48 | szabgab | why just recommend? |
| 21:48 | anyway, I am tired for any thinking now | |
| 21:48 | garu | no worries |
| 21:49 | it was an awesome job anyway, and the plugin works like a charm | |
| 21:49 | (which was your question to begin with) | |
| 21:49 | so szabgab++ | |
| 21:50 | szabgab | http://bit.ly/7xeKos |
| 21:53 | Hyppolit | svn: r9574 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9574 |
| 21:53 | Adding template functions for Catalyst | |
| 21:53 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ | |
| 21:53 | Sewi | garu: There is a new menu file (which is currently empty) and your requested editor_changed method. |
| 21:54 | garu | Sewi++ # once again! |
| 21:55 | Sewi | Wait until you saw what I did :-) |
| 21:55 | garu | szabgab, very nice! but the advent link for Catalyst is 2009/9, not 2009/8 |
| 21:55 | szabgab | yeah, I just fixed it ;-) |
| 21:56 | the second link you mean, right ? | |
| 21:56 | garu | yup |
| 21:56 | szabgab | is it better now ? |
| 21:57 | garu | yay, now my name's also in it |
| 21:58 | wow, full name... feels like I'm being shouted at by my mom after doing something wrong :P | |
| 21:58 | Sewi | :-)) |
| 22:00 | szabgab | ok pppl it is midnight here |
| 22:00 | I better go to bed | |
| 22:00 | garu | szabgab, good night! |
| 22:00 | Sewi | szabgab: You don't have daylight saving? |
| 22:00 | good night szabgab | |
| 22:01 | szabgab | we are done with daylight |
| 22:02 | Sewi | we too, but I thought we were in the same tz |
| 22:02 | It's 23:00 here | |
| 22:02 | doesn't matter, sleep well | |
| 22:29 | Hyppolit | svn: r9575 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9575 |
| 22:29 | added recommended dependencies for Cat plugin | |
| 22:29 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/ | |
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| 23:11 | Sewi | gn8 |
| 23:11 | Alias | good morning |
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| 23:47 | kthakore | Alias: morn |
| 23:47 | Alias: now to get you wroking on SDL? | |
| 23:47 | Alias: can you convert our M::B to Makefile.PL | |
| 23:47 | ??? | |
| 23:48 | Alias: that is something you can do right? | |
| 23:48 | Alias | Potentially, unless it involves compiling |
| 23:49 | But I can sketch you out a basic version | |
| 23:50 | kthakore | Alias: yes! |
| 23:50 | Alias: thank you | |
| 23:50 | Alias: look at our insane Build.PL | |
| 23:57 | Alias | URL? |
| 23:58 | kthakore | Alias: http://github.com/kthakore/SDL[…]redesign/Build.PL |
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