Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2009-12-14

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05:09 Ryan52 Currently 210 comments are waiting for approval. Please visit the moderation panel:
05:10 Ryan52 ya, right.
05:36 szabgab good morning
05:38 jwang is there a way in padre to have the open files appear in a list in the left nav column?
05:38 szabgab View/Swho Directory Tree
05:38 szabgab oh
05:38 szabgab not that
05:39 szabgab too early :-)
05:39 szabgab jwang, no, no such feature
05:39 jwang szabgab: any plans?
05:39 szabgab not that I know of
05:39 jwang low priority, or considered and rejected ;)
05:39 szabgab but you are welcome to open a ticket
05:40 szabgab no one raised it afaik
05:40 jwang ok, cool
05:41 szabgab when you open the ticket please give some more detailed explanation, an example what tool does it, how it might interact with other features - just so to have more idea what you might would like to have
05:45 szabgab jwang, do you have an account on trac?
05:45 szabgab on our trac?
05:45 jwang not yet - just started using it today
05:45 szabgab let me know when you'd like to register as we need to open the reg page
05:47 jwang okay, will do
05:48 Sewi gm
05:49 Ryan52 szabgab: could we make a button in padre that allows people to register, and so that they can register through that any time they want?
05:49 Ryan52 or have some password that's need to register, that could just be common knowledge around here.
05:49 Sewi jwang: Registration is open now, please use the second link and tell me as soon as you're finished
05:49 Ryan52 I'm guessing that the spammers are getting to our trac by bots and not by somebody who actually uses padre..
05:50 Sewi trac?
05:50 Hyppolit trac is http://padre.perlide.org/trac and also http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register
05:50 Sewi Hi Ryan52
05:50 Ryan52 hi Sewi
05:50 * Sewi afk making my daughter ready for school...
06:07 jwang Sewi: done and logged in - thanks
06:08 Sewi Registration closed
06:25 Sewi back
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06:40 szabgab Ryan52, trac integration with Padre would be cool, but it is not that simple to make what you suggest as it needs support on the server as well
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07:21 waxhead any outstanding issues with trunk at the moment?  I'll do up a new release in a couple of hours or so
07:22 Hyppolit svn: r9674 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9674
07:22 Hyppolit minor pod updates
07:22 Hyppolit trunk/IO-Socket-Multicast/ trunk/IO-Socket-Multicast/lib/IO/Socket/
07:22 Hyppolit svn: r9675 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9675
07:22 Hyppolit remove unnecessary error checking
07:22 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/
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08:05 zombie_submersible hi Alias
08:08 zombie_submersible netwrok trouble@home ?
08:12 waxhead keeps him focused on Padre code.. :)
08:15 zombie_submersible suffering the dark side of dsl I think
08:16 zombie_submersible waxhead: curious.. when u were running the swarm plugin... how many network interfaces were available?
08:17 waxhead zombie_submersible, one with an ip address
08:17 * submersible returns from the undead
08:18 submersible thanks.
08:18 submersible I think the transport needs to be more explicit about what interface it expects to use
08:18 waxhead submersible, this laptops network settings are a mess!
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08:19 submersible mine too - plus a bunch of vmnets and other garbage - but it seems too forgiving and just picks something sensible..
08:19 submersible no such luck on win32 so far.
08:20 waxhead NetworkManager wasn't working that well so I've done something!
08:20 waxhead after the release I'll try and remember to check it out...
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08:40 Sewi waxhead: I think these blockers are blockers for some releases now...
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08:46 azawawi good morning
08:48 Sewi_Ubuntu hi azawawi
08:48 azawawi Sewi_Ubuntu: hi ubuntu :)
08:48 Sewi_Ubuntu hi azawawi
08:48 Sewi_Ubuntu My win laptop screen died yesterday :-(
08:50 azawawi :(
08:57 Hyppolit svn: r9676 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9676
08:57 Hyppolit [Debug::Client] add some documentation and TODO tests
08:57 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/
08:58 waxhead Sewi_Ubuntu, they have been... except for the printing one on windows 7
09:01 Sewi_Ubuntu waxhead: I'll try again printing...
09:03 Hyppolit svn: r9677 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9677
09:03 Hyppolit Changes file is closed off for 0.52,.
09:03 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
09:06 azawawi waxhead: 0.52 released?
09:07 waxhead azawawi, working on it
09:07 Sewi_Ubuntu waxhead: Printing try locks Padre on W7
09:07 Hyppolit svn: r9678 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9678
09:07 Hyppolit Fixed ticket:793 "The nice butterfly logo is missing on the "Padre Documentation" page"
09:07 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/lib/
09:08 waxhead szabgab, how come sewi's blog isn't agrogatted on the Padre blog page?
09:08 szabgab probably we have have not added it
09:09 szabgab we should create an rss feed for the about page
09:09 szabgab and maybe create a separate greman about page (and for other languages too)
09:09 Hyppolit #793: The nice butterfly logo is missing on the "Padre Documentation" page (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/793#comment:1 ]
09:09 szabgab and then remove the   blogs page
09:11 Sewi_Ubuntu waxhead: Please stop the release, just found another blocker.
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09:12 waxhead Sewi, serious????
09:12 waxhead what's the problem?
09:12 waxhead I'm just writting the "media release"...
09:12 Sewi_Ubuntu nothing big, but copy/paste on right click stays disabled.
09:13 Sewi_Ubuntu We should always-enable it and go on with the release.
09:13 waxhead ok... do you have a fix for it?
09:13 Sewi_Ubuntu Not now and just need to do some work.
09:14 Sewi_Ubuntu If nobody else could do it, I'll look at it later.
09:14 waxhead where's the svn repo you can get to via the web?
09:14 Sewi_Ubuntu Oh, but please verify that this isn't something just on my running instance.
09:14 Sewi_Ubuntu http://padre.perlide.org/trac --> Browse Source
09:22 Hyppolit svn: r9679 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9679
09:22 Hyppolit Updated perlopref.pod to latest version
09:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/doc/perlopref/
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09:24 waxhead Sewi_Ubuntu, mouse copy/paste with right click works here...
09:30 Hyppolit svn: r9680 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9680
09:30 Hyppolit [Debug::Client] prompt is now returned as the first value
09:30 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/ trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/
09:31 waxhead szabgab, what's this debug client you're working on?
09:31 szabgab its a client for the standard -d debugger
09:32 waxhead hooks into Padre?
09:32 Sewi_Ubuntu waxhead: Sorry for stopping the release then
09:32 szabgab it is stand alone
09:32 szabgab it will be used by Padre
09:32 waxhead Sewi_Ubuntu, it's not stopped.. the amount of typing you do with a relelase is insane... :)
09:32 szabgab a few things need to be fixed though
09:33 waxhead can anyone else substantiate Sewi's claim about right click paste?
09:36 Hyppolit svn: r9681 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9681
09:36 Hyppolit Arabic translation at 86%
09:36 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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09:46 waxhead isn't there some app that tells you the percentage of a translation?
09:46 Sewi_Ubuntu Sure, there is a link on the translation page
09:46 Sewi_Ubuntu translation?
09:49 szabgab babel?
09:49 waxhead no.. translations within Padre
09:49 * waxhead wonders if vox has a save as draft feature...
09:49 Sewi_Ubuntu I thought Hyppolit knows about translation
09:49 szabgab Hyppolit, babel is http://perlide.org/translations/
09:49 Hyppolit babel was unknown
09:49 Hyppolit babel is now http://perlide.org/translations/
09:50 * waxhead didn't take notes on what to do last release with the blog on release
09:50 waxhead ok... last call before release
09:50 waxhead you have 5 minutes to get things in order and committed
09:51 Hyppolit svn: r9682 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9682
09:51 Hyppolit [Debug::Client] /x regex
09:51 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/
09:58 Hyppolit svn: r9683 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9683
09:58 Hyppolit Perl Tidy run for Release 0.52
09:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
10:02 Hyppolit svn: r9684 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9684
10:02 Hyppolit Arabic translation at 91%
10:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
10:02 Hyppolit svn: r9685 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9685
10:02 Hyppolit Version bump to 0.52
10:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DocBrowser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Project/ trunk/Padre/lib/Pad
10:03 azawawi waxhead++ :)
10:03 waxhead we'll see.. there's still time for tears yet.. :)
10:04 Hyppolit svn: r9686 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9686
10:04 Hyppolit some more diagnostics during tests
10:04 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/t/
10:05 Sewi_Ubuntu szabgab: Given waxhead wants this, I'ld vote for keeping him as release manager instead of searching again now...
10:06 Hyppolit svn: r9687 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9687
10:06 Hyppolit [Debug::Client set version number to 0.06
10:06 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/ trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/
10:06 azawawi Sewi_Ubuntu: waxhead = Padre release CEO :)
10:06 waxhead hardly!!
10:07 waxhead mind you, I'm happy to do it if it means people are free to code on padre
10:07 szabgab Sewi_Ubuntu, why would that come up as a question at all ?
10:07 Hyppolit svn: r9688 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9688
10:07 Hyppolit tag Debug-Client-0.06
10:07 Hyppolit tags/
10:08 waxhead szabgab, last time I asked for testers you said I should tag the release first.. is that right?
10:09 szabgab yes, and that would be the time when you have already tested
10:09 szabgab and you think it can go out to the public
10:09 szabgab basically once you asked people to test it should be frozen
10:10 szabgab if someone finds a serious issue that should stop the release that should mean a new version number as well
10:10 szabgab so we never end up two different files called Padre-52...
10:13 szabgab smoker was not running on Windows, now restarted
10:19 Hyppolit svn: r9689 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9689
10:19 Hyppolit [Catalyst] Arabic translation at 100%
10:19 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/share/locale/
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10:20 Hyppolit svn: r9690 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9690
10:20 Hyppolit tag Padre-0.52
10:20 Hyppolit tags/
10:20 * waxhead slaps head
10:21 Hyppolit svn: r9691 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9691
10:21 Hyppolit [Catalyst] Arabic translation at 100% after updating POT file
10:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/share/locale/
10:22 szabgab waxhead, why so?
10:22 waxhead ok.. tagged and ready to be tested: http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pa​dre-release/Padre-0.52.tar.gz
10:22 waxhead the head slap?
10:23 waxhead I ran pip on the Padre-0.52.tar.gz file that is in my svn working copy...
10:23 waxhead I'm thinking it extracted all over hte top of the working copy....
10:23 waxhead hence the head slap...
10:23 waxhead next time I'll move the file to /tmp first and then run pip on that...
10:24 Hyppolit svn: r9692 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9692
10:24 Hyppolit Arabic translation at 88% after updating POT file :(
10:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
10:27 szabgab it should extract it in /tmp
10:27 szabgab slap Alias if it did not do that
10:28 Sewi_Ubuntu waxhead: I'm copying your file to http://padre-ide.de/Padre-0.52.tar.gz which should be faster to d/l. Copy is estimated to be done in 18 minutes
10:28 szabgab Sewi_Ubuntu, then pls stop it
10:28 szabgab I started to copy it to the perlide.org page
10:28 Sewi_Ubuntu ok
10:28 Sewi_Ubuntu stopped
10:29 waxhead right then.. so I'll put this on CPAN?
10:29 szabgab you can wait a few minutes
10:29 Sewi_Ubuntu waxhead: Let some of us download and test it, please.
10:29 szabgab and then submit it from the perlide.org server
10:29 szabgab it is faster I guess
10:30 szabgab ETA is still growing
10:30 szabgab pls stop using that URL till I copy the file
10:30 waxhead righto.. I've got the blog post written and updated the release page.. once you're happy with it, I'll click all the save and upload buttons I need to
10:31 waxhead is it really that slow??
10:31 szabgab 5.45K/s
10:32 szabgab something is eating your uplink
10:32 Sewi_Ubuntu szabgab: People downloading Padre :-)
10:33 szabgab tell them to stop :-) they will have a much faster link in 5 minutes, if they let me upload it
10:33 szabgab but like this my ETA is just growing :-)
10:34 waxhead szabgab, it's a slow uplink with my provider 1.5 mbit down, 256kbps up
10:34 szabgab yeah, but it went down no to --,-- K/s
10:34 szabgab stalled
10:34 waxhead bugger...
10:35 waxhead where can I send it to then?
10:35 waxhead scp would be handy
10:35 * waxhead wonders if his connection hasn't been shaped
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10:36 szabgab it should be ok if I was the only one copying that file
10:36 szabgab maybe you should stop watching p* now
10:36 szabgab just till I upload this :-)
10:37 Sewi_Ubuntu My download has been completed, I just copied it to http://tsbz.de/Padre-0.52.tar.gz
10:37 Sewi_Ubuntu You may get it from there, but I'll remove it once you're done
10:38 szabgab oh I thought you said you stopped yours
10:38 waxhead haha.. release night is a pron free night.. otherwise who knows what will happen with the release!  :)
10:38 waxhead probably not the sort of release that would see Padre get out the door..
10:39 szabgab waxhead, you tagged r9690 as release
10:39 Hyppolit Changeset #9690 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9690
10:39 szabgab but let's not go further down that road..
10:40 Sewi_Ubuntu Sorry, I stopped my copy to the server, but download to my local box @home was nearly finished.
10:41 waxhead szabgab, sorry... here's what I used: ../tools/release.pl --version 0.52 --revision 9685 --tag
10:41 Sewi_Ubuntu waxhead: Make test passed all tests on Ubuntu
10:42 szabgab pip http://perlide.org/downloa​d/source/Padre-0.52.tar.gz
10:42 szabgab waxhead, you can use that URL when submitting to PAUSE
10:43 waxhead ok.. already pasted into the form.. waiting on the OK to click Upload
10:43 szabgab 0.52 is double the size of 0.42
10:43 waxhead double the goodness with it?
10:44 Hyppolit #793: The nice butterfly logo is missing on the "Padre Documentation" page (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/793#comment:1.2 ]
10:44 szabgab my Ubuntu 9.10 said it is ok
10:45 waxhead does pip work on windows?
10:45 szabgab I am running it now
10:46 szabgab but go ahead, upload to PAUSE
10:48 Topic for #padreis now Latest Padre is 0.52, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001
10:55 waxhead installed fine on my windows vista machine
10:57 waxhead szabgab, will need to update trac, I don't think I'm an admin
11:02 szabgab added the version number
11:03 szabgab works on Virual XP
11:03 szabgab I mean virtual
11:06 waxhead cool..
11:07 Sewi_Ubuntu szabgab: Sometimes someone could think Win is a virus... :-)
11:08 szabgab a virus is small
11:08 Sewi_Ubuntu you won :-)
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11:45 Hyppolit svn: r9693 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9693
11:45 Hyppolit [Debug::Client] adding more tests
11:45 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/eg/
12:23 Hyppolit svn: r9694 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9694
12:23 Hyppolit [Debug::Client] more test cases
12:23 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/
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13:54 Hyppolit svn: r9695 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9695
13:54 Hyppolit add initial version of the debugger
13:54 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
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14:20 Hyppolit svn: r9696 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9696
14:20 Hyppolit add show value to the debugger
14:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
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16:08 Hyppolit #750: tab / ctrl+tab do not work anymore (reopened defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/750#comment:13 ]
16:29 * garu wonders if there's a way to test such things automatically
16:31 Sewi_Ubuntu garu: Theoretically yes, there is a guitest plugin and cpan module, but it doesn't really work.
16:32 garu :(
16:32 garu we should fix it then!
16:32 garu and, by "we", of course I mean Sewi :)
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18:15 Hyppolit svn: r9697 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9697
18:15 Hyppolit add step_out, step_over, show_stack_trace to debugger
18:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
18:24 szabgab if you are not afraid try the debugger and if you have the tuits please create a set of toolbar icons for the    start/quit and the 3 step actions
18:49 Hyppolit #759: Flicker when typing in Padre (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/759#comment:2 ]
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22:40 Hyppolit #794: Moving marked lines up and down (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/794 ]
22:49 Hyppolit #750: tab / ctrl+tab do not work anymore (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/750#comment:14 ]
22:50 Hyppolit #795: Ctrl-Tab is using tab display order rather than last-used order (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/795 ]
22:55 Hyppolit #795: Ctrl-Tab is using tab display order rather than last-used order (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/795#comment:1 ]
22:56 Hyppolit #795: Ctrl-Tab is using tab display order rather than last-used order (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/795#comment:2 ]
23:01 Sewi patspam: Cool, thanks, I didn't know this #306
23:01 Hyppolit #306: Cycle through tabs (ctrl-tab) in most-recently-used order (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/306#comment:3 ]
23:01 patspam no probs!
23:01 Sewi szabgab: Did waxhead blog about 0.52?
23:01 patspam sorry for reporting it in the wrong place
23:02 Sewi No problem, I just felt that #750 has been opened and closed too often :-)
23:02 Hyppolit #750: tab / ctrl+tab do not work anymore (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/750#comment:14 ]
23:09 Sewi http://perlwannabe.vox.com/library/po​st/padre-052-is-heading-to-cpan.html
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23:16 Hyppolit svn: r9698 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9698
23:16 Hyppolit Updated blog list
23:16 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
23:30 Sewi gn8
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