Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2009-12-17

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01:42 Alias hrm
01:42 Alias Undo broken in 0.52
01:42 Alias Is it fixed on trunk?
01:42 Alias If so, we need to push a 0.53, because this bug really sucks
02:02 stemd question: I really like F2 (help browser), but at this moment it shows me only default perl documentation, it doesn't show doc about modules I installed via cpan
02:03 stemd is it as it should be (at this moment only default doc's are indexed/searched), or I have to change some setting?
02:04 Alias I'm pretty sure it's not actually based on a search/indexer
02:05 Alias It's baked in, or pulled from a specific set of documents
02:08 stemd I just installed HTML::Strip
02:08 stemd "Appending installation info to /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0/perllocal.pod"
02:17 stemd aha
02:18 stemd Alias: F2 gives default help, F1 finds installed modules
02:19 stemd I'll submit bug to trac (also is annoying that help window doesn't have maximize button), F2 help is resizable, F1 is not resizable
02:22 kthakore Alias: undo works for me
02:22 kthakore Alias: what platform?
02:23 Alias Win32
02:23 Alias I'm installing trunk now
02:24 kthakore Alias: win32 works for me
02:24 kthakore try ./dev.pl ??
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02:28 kthakore I am going to sleep good luck Alias
02:28 kthakore Alias: may the force be with you :P
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03:41 ppant Hi All
03:41 ppant Good morning
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03:43 azawawi good morning
03:50 ppant I was trying to upgrade from 0.50 to 0.52 on windows using perl -MCPAN -e "CPAN->upgrade('/^Padre/')"  taken from your blog
03:50 ppant but coudn't suceed
03:51 azawawi ppant: what's the error?
03:52 azawawi ppant: sometimes it gets confused... try a simple 'cpan Padre'
03:52 ppant I am also facing problems to install Padre (First time) on Cent Os too .. give me few min .. I will get back to you...
03:57 azawawi ppant: good luck :)
04:07 ppant Thanks
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04:20 ppant azawawi: in Cent Os 4.6 compilation is failing at ../Dialog/Frame.pm line 7
04:20 ppant azawawi: in Cent Os 4.6 compilation is failing at ..Wx/perl/Dialog/Frame.pm line 7
04:21 * azawawi takes a look
04:22 ppant Failed test ''STDOUT of Wx/Perl/Dialog/Frame.pm'
04:22 azawawi ah
04:22 azawawi cpan Wx::Perl::Dialog ?
04:23 ppant ok
04:23 ppant will do
04:23 azawawi the upgrade is not 100% correct
04:23 azawawi since not all of Padre is ^Padre
04:24 ppant in Cent OS i am doing first time installation
04:24 azawawi cpan Padre ?
04:24 ppant yes
04:24 ppant I have done cpan Padre only
04:25 azawawi Wx::Perl::Dialog isa Wx::Dialog
04:26 azawawi Wx version?
04:30 ppant will check
04:33 ppant It seems my machine doesn't have Wx installed and Padre is looking for Wx 0.91
04:34 ppant Wx, pip and Wx::Perl::ProcessStream are unsatisfied dependencies
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05:31 Hyppolit svn: r9727 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9727
05:31 Hyppolit Help search (F2) now supports *ALL* installed CPAN modules. The first time it is going to be a bit slow.
05:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
05:35 Hyppolit svn: r9728 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9728
05:35 Hyppolit Updated Changes and did a Perl tidy
05:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/
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06:35 Sewi gm
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07:23 Hyppolit svn: r9729 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9729
07:23 Hyppolit Removed "Syntax Check" editor focusing behavior that caused tab focus loss when switching tabs and there is an error in one of them.
07:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/
07:27 Hyppolit svn: r9730 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9730
07:27 Hyppolit Updated Changes
07:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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07:40 azawawi Sewi: ping
07:41 azawawi Sewi: does Padre::Wx::Progress support indeterminate progress?
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08:06 Sewi azawawi: pong
08:06 Sewi Sorry, don't know.
08:08 azawawi Sewi: np... thanks
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08:32 Hyppolit svn: r9731 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9731
08:32 Hyppolit Help search does not block when loading help topics list from the provider (e.g. CPAN modules list)
08:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
08:34 Hyppolit svn: r9732 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9732
08:34 Hyppolit Updated Changes and Perl tidy the last commit
08:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
08:38 Hyppolit svn: r9733 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9733
08:38 Hyppolit Ticket #787: Check for breakpoints in source
08:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/xt/
08:38 Hyppolit #787: Add a badcode enhancement or new xt test to watch for $DB::single (closed enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/787#comment:1 ]
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09:37 Hyppolit svn: r9734 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9734
09:37 Hyppolit warn if debugger is not running when trying to step_in
09:37 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
09:37 Hyppolit svn: r9735 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9735
09:37 Hyppolit test LIST context of initial get statement
09:37 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/t/
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09:37 Hyppolit svn: r9736 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9736
09:37 Hyppolit add case when content of the row is shown on the second line
09:37 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/ trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/
09:38 Hyppolit svn: r9737 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9737
09:38 Hyppolit print filename and row number to the command line when starting the debugger (needs Debug::Client from SVN)
09:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
09:48 submersible szabgab: where is this debug client integration hiding
09:53 submersible szabgab: trunk is borked w/ current debugger plugin - for me
10:00 szabgabx submersible, this is not the debugger  plugin
10:01 szabgabx in the Run menu you can start the debugger and then step throught your code
10:01 szabgabx but it does not display your location yet
10:01 submersible sry: that;'s what i mean - the run -> start debugger
10:01 szabgabx what do you mean borked then?
10:02 szabgabx have you installed Debug::Client ?
10:02 submersible yup from trunk
10:02 szabgabx so what happens if you start the debugger on a small perl script ?
10:03 submersible I see nothing
10:03 szabgabx do you see sg printed on the console ?
10:03 submersible oh...
10:03 szabgabx now  you can use step_in
10:03 submersible LOTS of stuff in the console
10:03 szabgabx and all the other menu options
10:04 szabgabx I am still in heavy - trying to figure this out - mode
10:04 submersible ok - am I supposed to launch the script myself from somewhere w/ PERLDB_OPTS="" etc? or is that done on the current document?
10:05 szabgabx it is done on the current doc
10:07 submersible 100% cpu from the debugged child
10:08 submersible no wait...
10:08 szabgabx I saw that happening sometimes
10:11 submersible ok cool - nice one
10:11 submersible that works for me
10:11 submersible but the interface via menu is just no fun
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10:14 szabgabx I know
10:15 szabgabx I'd be happy if you created the toolbar for it
10:15 szabgabx and we will need to decide on keyboard shortcuts as well
10:15 szabgabx and of course it will need to show the exact location of the execution in the file
10:16 szabgabx but right now I am trying to make sure step_in can notice when it has finished debugging
10:18 Hyppolit svn: r9738 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9738
10:18 Hyppolit show the current file and line on the command line after step_in, step_over, step_out
10:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
10:21 szabgabx I think actually there is no need for a separate start debugger entry,   step_in, should start the debugger
10:22 szabgabx also step_over should do it and a new "run"  which would just run till the first breakpoint
10:39 Hyppolit svn: r9739 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9739
10:39 Hyppolit return <TERMINATED> when a call has reached the end of the script
10:39 Hyppolit trunk/Debug-Client/ trunk/Debug-Client/lib/Debug/ trunk/Debug-Client/t/
10:45 Hyppolit svn: r9740 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9740
10:45 Hyppolit notice when debugger terminated and call quit
10:45 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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10:54 waxhead how goes the Padre debugger?
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11:50 Hyppolit svn: r9741 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9741
11:50 Hyppolit Updated Changes
11:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
12:42 Astemd I would like to register an account on trac
12:43 Sewi Hi Astemd, do you have a problem?
12:43 Astemd Sewi - kind of :-)
12:43 Sewi Which kind?
12:43 Astemd I wrote yesterday: F2 gives default help, F1 finds installed modules
12:43 Astemd I'll submit bug to trac (also is annoying that help window doesn't have maximize button), F2 help is resizable, F1 is not resizable
12:44 Sewi ok, wait a moment, please.
12:44 Astemd np
12:44 Sewi trac?
12:44 Hyppolit trac is http://padre.perlide.org/trac and also http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register
12:45 Sewi registration is open now
12:45 Astemd thx
12:46 Astemd Sewi: account created
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12:55 Sewi Registration closed
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13:31 Hyppolit #798: F1 & F2 help behaviour (new task) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/798 ]
13:31 Hyppolit #798: F1 & F2 help behaviour (new task) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/798#comment:1 ]
13:35 Sewi Astemd: The email address of your trac account is added to the ticket mailing recipients  automatically.
13:37 Astemd hehe, wanted to be sure ;-)
13:43 Astemd F2 window caption is set twice, once in constructor and also somewhere else
13:43 Astemd maybe localization?
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13:45 Astemd in sub _display_help_in_viewer
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15:00 Hyppolit svn: r9742 | sblandin++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9742
15:00 Hyppolit Updated Padre Italian Translation
15:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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15:47 kthakore morning
15:47 kthakore Sewi_Ubuntu: around?
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16:04 Sewi kthakore: No, but my Win personality is.
16:04 kthakore Sewi: hi um I need to show some text in a Wx App what code can I steal from Padre and where?
16:05 Sewi Look at Padre/Wx/Main.pm, ->error method for example. If this isn't what you want, the Preferences dialog has good examples, too.
16:06 Sewi The Open_URL dialog may also be interesting
16:12 kthakore ok
16:12 kthakore thanks
16:13 Sewi yw (and I won't blog about this :-) )
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16:23 kthakore Sewi: um ... I just need to know how to use TextCtrl to do word wrap and use \n as new line
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16:49 Hyppolit svn: r9743 | patspam++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9743
16:49 Hyppolit New release of Padre::Plugin::WebGUI to work with TRACE and menu_plugins changes
16:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-WebGUI/lib/Padre/Plugin/
17:02 Hyppolit svn: r9744 | kaare++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9744
17:02 Hyppolit Make sure there is a $1. Resolves #797
17:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
17:03 Hyppolit #797: F4 Search error (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/797#comment:1 ]
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17:46 azawawi Astemd: ping
17:46 Astemd hi azawawi!
17:46 azawawi Astemd: i saw ticket:798
17:47 Astemd I just managed to get maximize button in first wxPerl app :-)
17:47 azawawi Astemd: and read your comment yesterday... i fixed F2 to read all @INC modules.
17:47 Astemd yes, I saw it
17:47 Astemd you ARE fast!
17:48 Astemd (I wouldn't know which .pm is Help if there were no your fix)
17:48 Astemd (I started using Padre yesterday)
17:49 azawawi Astemd: in the long run F2 Help search is going to be F1 once all the F2 help system bugs are closed (which is probably going to be finished by christmas)
17:49 Astemd hehe, I thought so :-)  (F1 & F2 be one)
17:50 Astemd &Wx::wxMAXIMIZE_BOX  doesn't work in my app
17:50 azawawi let me see
17:52 shadowpaste "Astemd" at 78.0.244.5 pasted "my test app" (35 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/37392
17:54 Astemd &Wx::wxDEFAULT_FRAME_STYLE  gives me all, minimize, maximize and close
17:54 azawawi Astemd: win32 or linux?
17:54 Astemd Ubuntu 910
17:55 Astemd (I have also win32 test platform, but wanted to be happy first on linux ;-)
17:55 azawawi Astemd: maybe, wxWS_EX_CONTEXTHELP is on... according to docs this turns MAX, MIN...
17:55 Astemd will check
17:55 azawawi Astemd: http://docs.wxwidgets.org/stable/wx_​wxwindow.html#wxwindowsetextrastyle
17:59 Astemd azawawi: I saw that string 'Help Search' is used in 2 places, so I changed it twice to change caption of F2 window
18:00 Astemd (maybe it should be set only once?)
18:01 azawawi where?
18:02 Astemd once in constructor
18:03 azawawi it is actually needed
18:03 Astemd 2nd time in sub _display_help_in_viewer
18:03 azawawi to display the location, deprecated, core modules (since 5.005)... etc
18:04 Astemd yes, I saw concatenation ;-)
18:16 Hyppolit svn: r9745 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9745
18:16 Hyppolit Fixed Perl Operators help not showing up after the first time.
18:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/
18:18 Astemd azawawi: if you could put in constructor of DocBrowser.pm style &Wx::wxDEFAULT_FRAME_STYLE ?
18:18 Astemd (that makes F1 win resizable)
18:18 azawawi which line?
18:19 Astemd 84
18:21 Sewi Astemd: You could do it, too.
18:22 Sewi Just change it, append a patch to the trac ticket and write here that you did. Someone will apply and commit it.
18:22 Hyppolit svn: r9746 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9746
18:22 Hyppolit F1 DocBrowser window is now resizable. Astemd++
18:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
18:22 Sewi Or you just wait for azawawi :-)
18:22 Astemd Sewi: next time will do
18:22 Sewi thanks :-)
18:23 Astemd np ;-)
18:23 azawawi Astemd: does that solve ticket:798?
18:23 Astemd I think so
18:23 azawawi Sewi: F2 can also do cpan modules now.
18:24 Sewi cool
18:24 Astemd I like Padre more than yesterday :-)
18:28 Sewi Astemd: I'd like it if you feel like this once a day. :-)
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18:34 Hyppolit #798: F1 & F2 help behaviour (closed task) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/798#comment:2 ]
18:35 Astemd Sewi: every day one (or more) closed tickets? why not? ;-)
18:44 Hyppolit svn: r9747 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9747
18:44 Hyppolit Fixed missing mime type guessing that caused new Padre documents to default always to Scintilla.
18:44 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
18:45 Hyppolit svn: r9748 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9748
18:45 Hyppolit Added missing require
18:45 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
18:45 Getty #798
18:45 Hyppolit #798: F1 & F2 help behaviour (closed task) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/798#comment:2 ]
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18:47 Hyppolit svn: r9749 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9749
18:47 Hyppolit Updated Changes and did a Perl tidy
18:47 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/HelpProvider/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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19:12 Hyppolit svn: r9750 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9750
19:12 Hyppolit [Ecliptic] Fixed ticket:471 "Ecliptic Quick Module Access should use CPAN::SQLite::Search"
19:12 Hyppolit [Ecliptic] Removed wrong dependency
19:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Ecliptic/
19:14 Hyppolit #471: Ecliptic Quick Module Access should use CPAN::SQLite::Search (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/471#comment:1 ]
19:17 Hyppolit svn: r9751 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9751
19:17 Hyppolit [Ecliptic] Updated Changes
19:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/
19:17 Hyppolit svn: r9752 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9752
19:17 Hyppolit [Ecliptic] Perl tidy
19:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Ecliptic/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/t/
19:20 Hyppolit svn: r9753 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9753
19:20 Hyppolit [Ecliptic] Bumped version to 0.19... Releasing to CPAN
19:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic​/lib/Padre/Plugin/Ecliptic/
19:21 Hyppolit svn: r9754 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9754
19:21 Hyppolit [Ecliptic] Updated POT file
19:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/lib/Pa​dre/Plugin/Ecliptic/share/locale/
19:21 Hyppolit svn: r9755 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9755
19:21 Hyppolit [Ecliptic] Updated Arabic translation
19:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/lib/Pa​dre/Plugin/Ecliptic/share/locale/
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19:37 Hyppolit svn: r9756 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9756
19:37 Hyppolit Fix focus issue in help search dialog (F2)
19:37 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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20:54 Corion Is the tab behaviour in 0.52 intended? CTRL-TAB now switches wildly around instead of to the tab on the right, and also CTRL-TAB CTRL-TAB does not switch to the second next tab.
20:55 Corion (same with SHIFT-CTRL-TAB , which used to switch to the tab one to the right)
20:56 Corion I saw some emails that the "tab handling works now", so maybe there was a change in how it "works"?
20:58 Sewi Hi Corion. Yes, it changed.
20:59 Corion Ah - so what's the intention, and how can I get the "normal", that is previous, behaviour back? Is there a setting for it?
20:59 Sewi Alt+Left / Right go to the neighbor tabs while Ctrl+Tab cycles through tabs in the order of their usage
21:00 Sewi Ctrl-Tab didn't work for some releases and now it's working like most other windowed applications (browsers, Windows)
21:00 Corion Ugh - no other program uses ALT+Left/right :-( And CTRL+TAB doesn't cycle, it works once and then changes focus weirdly
21:00 Corion Sewi: Ctrl+Tab changes tabs in Firefox for example
21:00 Sewi No, Alt+Left/Right is Padre-specific.
21:00 Corion ... while Alt+Left / Right doesn't do anything.
21:00 Corion So, do I have to hack Padre to make it conform with the rest of the world, then?
21:00 Sewi But also Firefox switches the last-used-order afaik (I don't use it frequently), Opera does.
21:01 Corion Sewi: Nope, Firefox, like all Windows UI tabs, changes through them in left/right order with CTRL-TAB / CTRL-SHIFT-TAB
21:02 Corion And the cycling on CTRL-TAB (currently) is rather erratic, visiting the same tab multiple times and not changing the current tab sometimes as well.
21:02 Sewi ok, sorry. I don't like it and use it only for fixing Firefox-only  JS bugs :-)
21:02 Sewi It doesn't seem to be really done atm.
21:03 Corion It's not Firefox - every other tab, at least on Windows, uses CTRL-TAB to switch through them
21:03 Sewi Sure, Padre also does. But if you use Alt+Tab to switch windows on Windows, it has last-used-order, too.
21:04 Corion Sewi: Nope - if I ctrl-tab on Padre/Windows, it does weird stuff. It should use the code path that's currently triggered by ALT-LEFT / -RIGHT instead.
21:04 Corion At least for me, because I like consistency between applications.
21:05 Sewi This is why it was changed :-)
21:05 Corion ???
21:06 Corion Ctrl-tab worked as it should have until 0.51, at least on Windows.
21:06 Sewi It worked for you on 0.51???
21:07 Corion Or 0.50 - I don't know which version I last used before I updated to 0.52
21:07 Corion (also, my irc client and mail client also cycle left/right through tabs on ctrl-tab)
21:08 Sewi It was broken for some releases. I don't exactly know when it was broken, but I'ld guess before 0.50.
21:08 * Corion fires up the laptop to check an older version
21:09 Corion Ah. At least Padre 0.47 works As It Should
21:11 tsee I have to agree with Corion, here. Ctrl-TAB generally does left/right.
21:12 tsee Though I'm quite happy it does *anything* after the recent fixes.
21:19 Sewi Maybe we should add an option for this...
21:20 Sewi But not tonight...
21:20 Corion Heh :) If a file is too large, Padre dies :)
21:21 Corion (after telling me that the file is too large ;) )
21:21 Corion But thanks to the session feature, a crash of Padre is not that fatal :)
21:23 Sewi Sure.
21:24 Sewi 0.52 could auto-save the current session for you on each change (file open/close)
21:24 Corion Clever idea!
21:26 Sewi Just check the checkbox in the session-open-dialog.
21:27 Sewi Since 0.52 this value is saved, too
21:27 Corion Ah - no, it already does what I want by default, for the default session. This makes the occassional crash quite bearable
21:30 Sewi Depends on how you use Padre. If you're working on multiple projects at the same time using one Padre instance per project, you need sessions, otherwise the last-session is ok.
21:36 Corion I only use one Padre instance, so the one session works well for me
21:37 Sewi There are many users for both ways.
21:38 Sewi We want to keep both ways, don't worry. :-)
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