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Hyppolit |
svn: r9790 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9790 |
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Hyppolit |
A dialog box for entering a keyboard shortcut |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r9791 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9791 |
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Hyppolit |
Minor tweaks |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/Preferences/ |
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Sewi |
gm |
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Alias_ |
\o |
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* Alias_ |
tries to get the locking system supporting refreshing some time before the release |
| 10:12 |
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Sewi |
Hi Alias. Do you want to submit a Padre-post for http://www.perladvent.org? It should be written by someone who writes a better English than I do. |
| 10:12 |
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Getty |
Sewi: you cant get your head away from this, eh? ;) |
| 10:13 |
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Sewi |
Getty: If a native speaker is around, it's worth a question, either Alias and waxhead (as the release manager) are both more than qualified to write it :-) But I won't disturb all of you again with it. |
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szabgab |
Sewi you are officially appointed to be the Padre Advent nagger |
| 10:17 |
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szabgab |
Sewi++ |
| 10:18 |
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szabgab |
and I am so happy I still have vi installed so I can fix padre when I manage to break the compilation and then try to restart it ... |
| 10:20 |
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Getty |
lol |
| 10:21 |
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Getty |
thats what i said ;) |
| 10:21 |
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Getty |
developing the developing tools is an evil chain ;) |
| 10:21 |
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Sewi |
Just install a released Padre system-wide as fallback :-) |
| 10:21 |
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Getty |
thats why i must really think about how to integrate local::lib for base install |
| 10:21 |
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Getty |
as option |
| 10:22 |
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Getty |
so that you can install 20< padre without stress |
| 10:22 |
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waxhead |
What's this Padre::Wx::Role ? |
| 10:23 |
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szabgab |
when did padre stop supporting :wq ? |
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| 10:25 |
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Getty |
szabgab: lol it doesnt really supported it, or? |
| 10:25 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r9792 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9792 |
| 10:25 |
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Hyppolit |
show where the debugger currently is |
| 10:25 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 10:26 |
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szabgab |
pls try to debug a small script |
| 10:26 |
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Alias_ |
Is there anything you specifically want in an advent post? |
| 10:27 |
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Alias_ |
Padre::Wx::Role is for shared behavioural stuff that you can't fit into a regular inheritance tree |
| 10:28 |
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Getty |
Alias: its more like that we have the chance to get into the advent post, i think more like some install hints and some usage hints wouldnt be required |
| 10:29 |
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Alias_ |
meh |
| 10:29 |
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Alias_ |
I |
| 10:29 |
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Alias_ |
I'm not a huge fan of the whole advent thing |
| 10:30 |
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Getty |
the perladvent calender is widely used over the perl community, somehow, so it would be a popularity boost |
| 10:30 |
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Getty |
its more marketing ;) |
| 10:30 |
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szabgab |
oh the M word, hush hush |
| 10:31 |
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Getty |
hehe |
| 10:31 |
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waxhead |
szabgab you could write something showing how to use the debugged in Padre.. :) |
| 10:31 |
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Getty |
i say it! yes! i say it! |
| 10:32 |
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szabgab |
I vote for garu to write it |
| 10:32 |
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szabgab |
he already proved he can |
| 10:32 |
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waxhead |
the advent calendar entry should be compelling reading about what padre can do for you |
| 10:32 |
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Getty |
then lets take garu |
| 10:32 |
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Getty |
GGAARRUU!!! come out! ;) |
| 10:33 |
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waxhead |
debugging in your ide is one of the most compelling reasons when it comes to dynamic languages... |
| 10:33 |
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waxhead |
not that all the coolness of Padre today isn't reason enough to use it.. :) |
| 10:33 |
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Alias_ |
Unfortunately, we don't do it very well quite yet |
| 10:33 |
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szabgab |
so any of you tried r9792 ? |
| 10:33 |
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Hyppolit |
Changeset #9792 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9792 |
| 10:33 |
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waxhead |
no not yet... |
| 10:33 |
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szabgab |
you need Debug::Client 0.09 |
| 10:34 |
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Alias_ |
Even with that, it's just raw menu entries right |
| 10:34 |
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Alias_ |
I tried it and nothing much happened |
| 10:34 |
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waxhead |
not likely to tonight.. early christmas here today and I'm a little sozzled.. |
| 10:35 |
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Getty |
but guys... just curious |
| 10:35 |
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Getty |
cant we lower wx requirement? |
| 10:35 |
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tsee |
Nope. |
| 10:35 |
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tsee |
Genuine bugs solved in Wx. |
| 10:36 |
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Getty |
thats really bad, cause on debian stable you cant install padre now really |
| 10:36 |
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Getty |
i must definitly violate anything of the system to get it on |
| 10:36 |
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tsee |
Unless the required Wx version has been significantly bumped since last time I checked. |
| 10:36 |
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tsee |
Which may well be the case. |
| 10:36 |
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Getty |
its now 8.8.8 or something |
| 10:36 |
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Getty |
and debian has 8.8.7 |
| 10:36 |
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tsee |
Ah! |
| 10:37 |
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szabgab |
Getty, I am sure if you install Alien::wxWidgets it will work |
| 10:37 |
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tsee |
You mean wxWidgets! |
| 10:37 |
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Getty |
yeah |
| 10:37 |
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Getty |
wxWidgets |
| 10:37 |
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Getty |
sorry ;) |
| 10:37 |
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tsee |
That's different. |
| 10:37 |
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szabgab |
and btw have you tried to download the stand-alone for linux I created ? |
| 10:37 |
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Getty |
szabgab: it doesnt work on regular CPAN installation with debian |
| 10:37 |
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tsee |
We need 2.8.8, IIRC. |
| 10:37 |
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Getty |
szabgab: oh no, but i can try |
| 10:37 |
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szabgab |
pls do so and let me know |
| 10:37 |
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Getty |
i will, just need to get back to my linux PC |
| 10:37 |
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tsee |
Getty, you mean Alien::wxWidgets doesn't work with the debian stable perl installation? |
| 10:37 |
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tsee |
That's very odd. |
| 10:38 |
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Getty |
tsee: yes |
| 10:38 |
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tsee |
Works like a charm on ubuntu. |
| 10:38 |
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Getty |
tsee: i can try agian if that is fixed now |
| 10:38 |
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tsee |
Maybe you need the perl headers. |
| 10:38 |
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Getty |
never compare ubuntu with debian ;) |
| 10:38 |
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tsee |
Where do you think ubuntu gets its perl stuff from? |
| 10:38 |
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waxhead |
ok.. time to go.. nite all |
| 10:38 |
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tsee |
The awesome debian-perl group! |
| 10:38 |
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tsee |
I.e. the perl-dev or libperl-dev or somesuch. |
| 10:38 |
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Getty |
tsee: yeah but still i hate ubuntu |
| 10:39 |
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Getty |
tsee: ubuntu should burn in hell, thats all i say to this ;) |
| 10:39 |
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tsee |
Sorry, but I don't care about such discussions. |
| 10:39 |
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tsee |
I'm just trying to help you. |
| 10:39 |
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tsee |
My point being it works here and this system is no *better* than what debian ships. |
| 10:39 |
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Getty |
yeah, but telling ubuntu works isnt helpful ;) just makes anger hehe, but i will try to find out whats wrong more specific |
| 10:39 |
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Getty |
the problem is the age |
| 10:39 |
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Getty |
debian release cycle <=> ubuntu release cycle |
| 10:39 |
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Getty |
debian stable is again now 2-3 years old |
| 10:40 |
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Getty |
so its clear that there are problems |
| 10:40 |
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tsee |
Oh, it's that old? I'm a little surprised. I thought it was newer. |
| 10:40 |
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Getty |
thats also why i hate ubuntu, they just fix all the problems somehow better cause they have that small release cycle, on the other side, companies cant work with that release cycle, it would incredible higher the administrative costs |
| 10:40 |
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Alias_ |
indeed |
| 10:40 |
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Getty |
it could be 1-2 years, but i'm sure its 2 years and a bit more |
| 10:41 |
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Alias_ |
Ubuntu has been talking this idea of two levels |
| 10:41 |
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Alias_ |
6 month releases, with every 4th release marked as the Long Term release |
| 10:41 |
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Getty |
Alias: will never work |
| 10:41 |
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tsee |
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ <-- are you on old stable? |
| 10:42 |
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Getty |
the 5.0.3 is just an update |
| 10:42 |
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Getty |
the gag is still the version blockoing |
| 10:42 |
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Getty |
you must check when 5.0.0 had came out |
| 10:42 |
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Getty |
and then you got the "version freeze" |
| 10:42 |
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Getty |
(no packages get upgraded, just bugfixed) |
| 10:42 |
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tsee |
ah, sorry. |
| 10:43 |
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Getty |
you always got many problems with that version freeze on the "desktop sector" |
| 10:43 |
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Getty |
gedit has flaws in stable, parted doesnt work at all (for the features it has unique) really and so on... |
| 10:43 |
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Getty |
sometimes its a pain, but mostly i like the longtime factor |
| 10:44 |
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Getty |
its nice to know that you upgrade and then its over for 2-3 years |
| 10:44 |
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Getty |
and you can concentrate on the real work again |
| 10:44 |
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Getty |
cause in final, we all use linux to reduce our work |
| 10:44 |
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Getty |
not to increase it with all the time upgrades |
| 10:51 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r9793 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9793 |
| 10:51 |
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Hyppolit |
step_in can now follow to other files as well |
| 10:51 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r9794 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9794 |
| 11:02 |
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Hyppolit |
eliminate crash when user does not select anything and asks for its value |
| 11:02 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r9795 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9795 |
| 12:49 |
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Hyppolit |
Theoretically now has support for ->refresh methods, will add support for it next |
| 12:49 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
| 12:49 |
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Alias_ |
Time for the big test |
| 12:50 |
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Alias_ |
Time to add an actual method to it |
| 13:26 |
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Getty |
szabgab: where is the standalone installer? |
| 13:27 |
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Alias_ |
http://www.strawberryperl.com/[…]andalone-0.50.msi |
| 13:29 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r9796 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9796 |
| 13:29 |
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Hyppolit |
Allow the use of an inspecific REFRESH lock to lock GUI updates in an inspecific fashion |
| 13:29 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
| 13:30 |
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Getty |
no no the linux one he mentioned :) |
| 13:33 |
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Alias_ |
ah |
| 13:51 |
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Alias_ |
I think I've uncovered a fairly systematic flaw in Padre |
| 13:51 |
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Alias_ |
Sigh... newlines |
| 13:52 |
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Getty |
-v |
| 13:52 |
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Alias_ |
Which explains a lot about why it has been generating Mixed newline files for me |
| 13:55 |
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Alias_ |
Do macs still use "MAC" newlines? |
| 13:55 |
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Alias_ |
Or is it just legacy mac |
| 13:55 |
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Getty |
oh... actually i would say they still exist, you must get someone with BBEdit and check what that generates by default |
| 14:48 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r9797 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/9797 |
| 14:48 |
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Hyppolit |
Another attempt to make the new function list work properly |
| 14:48 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ |
| 14:49 |
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Alias_ |
I think at some point we need to switch Padre to always use Unix newlines internally... |
| 14:49 |
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Alias_ |
Although then I don't know what we'd do with Mixed newlines |
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szabgab |
Getty, http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/12/1260392467.html |
| 15:14 |
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Alias_ |
Curious |
| 15:14 |
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Alias_ |
The function list refresh run at least twice on startup |
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kthakore |
Alias_, hiya |
| 15:27 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, in windows I can't see wxFrame and WxApp from wxPerl scripts |
| 15:27 |
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Alias_ |
hrm? |
| 15:27 |
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kthakore |
read up |
| 15:27 |
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Alias_ |
What do you mean, can't see? |
| 15:27 |
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Getty |
szabgab: it works :D |
| 15:27 |
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kthakore |
ok well I ran the default wxperl demo |
| 15:28 |
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kthakore |
Alias_ no window to see |
| 15:28 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, gui stuff in winxp + strawberry no go |
| 15:28 |
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Alias_ |
Does padre work? |
| 15:28 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, yes |
| 15:28 |
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Alias_ |
How do I run this demo? |
| 15:28 |
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kthakore |
but F5 of scripts with wx stuff don't work |
| 15:29 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, ok let me get the linky |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
hello there |
| 15:29 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i am new to perl and looking for some practical experience |
| 15:30 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, http://wxperl.sourceforge.net/[…]l2.html#id4690123 |
| 15:30 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, welcome! |
| 15:30 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, you are in the right place |
| 15:30 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
thanks |
| 15:31 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
I just started learning perl |
| 15:31 |
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Alias_ |
Welcome |
| 15:31 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i am using a linux os |
| 15:31 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, so am I. \0 hi-five |
| 15:31 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
high 5... |
| 15:31 |
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kthakore |
yay! |
| 15:31 |
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Alias_ |
kthakore, you are doing ->Show(1) right? |
| 15:31 |
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kthakore |
yup |
| 15:31 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
im working on arrays right now |
| 15:31 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, nice! |
| 15:31 |
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Alias_ |
kthakore, and using defaultsize and defaultposition? |
| 15:32 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, yup see the script |
| 15:32 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
but i would like to have some practical working with that language as i learn |
| 15:32 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, nice |
| 15:32 |
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Getty |
szabgab: we should mention that package on padre packge for debian stable user |
| 15:32 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, padre is your friend |
| 15:32 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
oh really... so how do i get started... even though I only have limited knowledge at the moment |
| 15:33 |
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Alias_ |
kthakore, ok so WORKSFORME if I run it from the command line |
| 15:33 |
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Getty |
i just need to know how i install stuff now... |
| 15:33 |
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Alias_ |
Whahttp://wxperl.sourceforge.net/[…]rial/first.pl.txt |
| 15:33 |
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Alias_ |
http://wxperl.sourceforge.net/[…]rial/first.pl.txt |
| 15:33 |
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Getty |
if i use its CPAN where it installs... |
| 15:33 |
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Alias_ |
That link in particular |
| 15:34 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, well first get padre |
| 15:34 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, get the standalone |
| 15:34 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok going to do that right now |
| 15:34 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, what is the link for padre standalone |
| 15:34 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, what platform are you on? |
| 15:34 |
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Alias_ |
For linux? I don't know |
| 15:35 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, no this is WinXP that the script don't work |
| 15:35 |
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kthakore |
CPAN padre |
| 15:35 |
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Alias_ |
kthakore, I'm on XP, using trunk |
| 15:35 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, ah crap I can't get trunk |
| 15:35 |
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Alias_ |
I agree that the F5 execution doesn't work |
| 15:35 |
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kthakore |
Alias, yay! |
| 15:35 |
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kthakore |
bug hunting success! |
| 15:35 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
linux mint 8 |
| 15:35 |
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Alias_ |
It runs, but nothing shows |
| 15:36 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, so get padre from CPAN |
| 15:36 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
installing 0.42 now |
| 15:36 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
it was in the package manager |
| 15:36 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, try cpan padre |
| 15:36 |
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Alias_ |
eep, a little on the older side :) |
| 15:36 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, ah ok |
| 15:36 |
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Alias_ |
No |
| 15:36 |
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Alias_ |
He should install 0.4 first |
| 15:36 |
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Alias_ |
To get the main deps |
| 15:36 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, ok |
| 15:36 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, listen to Alias_ |
| 15:36 |
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kthakore |
brb |
| 15:36 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok 0.42 intstalled |
| 15:36 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
what is the next step |
| 15:37 |
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Alias_ |
Well, if you like, you can just start using it now |
| 15:37 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, 0.42 is old! |
| 15:37 |
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Alias_ |
But the main release series is currently at 0.52 |
| 15:37 |
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Alias_ |
And trunk is heading towards a 0.53 |
| 15:37 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, as a newbie I recommend 0.52 as it has context help!! The greatest feature ever! |
| 15:37 |
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Alias_ |
oh right |
| 15:37 |
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Alias_ |
ok |
| 15:37 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok can i upgrade that in terminal |
| 15:38 |
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Alias_ |
So next step, uninstall the padre package |
| 15:38 |
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kthakore |
lol |
| 15:38 |
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Alias_ |
Which will leave all the main deps installed |
| 15:38 |
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Alias_ |
Which is what you want |
| 15:38 |
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Alias_ |
Uninstall only the top level headline package though, not any deps |
| 15:40 |
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Alias_ |
Once you've done that, run "sudo cpan Padre" from the terminal |
| 15:40 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok so 0.42 is uninstalled |
| 15:40 |
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Alias_ |
Oh, do you have make and gcc and etc installed? |
| 15:41 |
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Alias_ |
The normal C dev tools? |
| 15:41 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i have them |
| 15:41 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
terminal working it out here |
| 15:42 |
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Alias_ |
ok |
| 15:42 |
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Alias_ |
Let the cpan install run until it stops |
| 15:42 |
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Alias_ |
And see if you end with errors |
| 15:42 |
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Alias_ |
If so, we'll work them out |
| 15:42 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
k |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
this is somewhat exciting |
| 15:44 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, yay! |
| 15:44 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, it is an adventure :P |
| 15:44 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, so ... that is a bug right! |
| 15:44 |
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kthakore |
Alias_, I am going to go eat then make a report or something |
| 15:44 |
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kthakore |
cya |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
terminal still going |
| 15:48 |
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Alias_ |
Yep |
| 15:48 |
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Alias_ |
It's mostly the test suites running |
| 15:49 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok it stopped |
| 15:49 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i got some errors here |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Running make install |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
make test had returned bad status, won't install without force |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Failed test 'STDOUT of Wx/Perl/Dialog/Simple.pm |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
/usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Alias_ what do i do now |
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tsee |
Probably: "force install Wx::Perl::Dialog::Simple" |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
not sure what that means |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
what would i need to put into terminal |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, first do cpan YAML |
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kthakore |
tsee, he is not in the cpan sell |
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kthakore |
shell |
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tsee |
Oh. Sorry. |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
im just in terminal |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok kthakore |
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tsee |
dgeorge29ca_, I'll let kthakore handle this then :) |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Warning: Cannot install yaml, don't know what it is. |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Try the command |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i /yaml/ |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
the debian package won't install either |
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tsee |
YAML, not yaml. |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok installing now |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
done |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
no errors |
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Alias_ |
Lets try this |
| 15:58 |
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Alias_ |
run... |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok |
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Alias_ |
look Padre |
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Alias_ |
then run... |
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Alias_ |
perl Makefile.PL |
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Alias_ |
It should show a list of dependencies that weren't installed |
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Alias_ |
or failed |
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tsee |
dgeorge29ca_, thanks for your patience and persistance. |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
no problem at all |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
this is cool |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
padre |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
padre's |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
padres |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
just let me know what i need to do |
| 16:03 |
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Alias_ |
Where are you now |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i typed in look padre |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
got that list above |
| 16:04 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
makefile didn't work |
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Alias_ |
look Padre |
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Alias_ |
(capital) |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i get the same list |
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Alias_ |
Which list? |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
padre |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
padre's |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
padres |
| 16:07 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
look Padre |
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Alias_ |
huh |
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Alias_ |
Did you run this from inside the CPAN shell? |
| 16:08 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok im in terminal |
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Alias_ |
ah |
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Alias_ |
Run "cpan" |
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Alias_ |
And then do look Padre again |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok i see a list |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
very long list |
| 16:10 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i am in the padre-0.52-s9mWj3 directory now |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i see the makefile now |
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Alias_ |
perl Makefile.PL |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Warning: prerequisite Wx::Perl::ProcessStream 0.20 not found. We have 0.11. |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Warning, threads::shared has already been loaded. To |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
enable shared variables, 'use threads' must be called |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
before threads::shared or any module that uses it. |
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Alias_ |
ugh |
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Alias_ |
processstream |
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Alias_ |
ok, exit |
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Alias_ |
run |
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Alias_ |
exit |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
in cpan? |
| 16:13 |
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Alias_ |
Then when you are back in the CPAN shell |
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Alias_ |
no, from the shell that the look command put you in |
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Alias_ |
exit will take you back to the cpan shell |
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Alias_ |
Then run |
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Alias_ |
force install Wx::Perl::ProcessStream |
| 16:15 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok it ran through some things here |
| 16:15 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
make_test FAILED but failure ignored because 'force' in effect |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Failed during this command: |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
MDOOTSON/Wx-Perl-ProcessStream-0.22.tar.gz : make_test FAILED but failure ignored because 'force' in effect |
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Alias_ |
yup |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
lots of errors on this it seems |
| 16:18 |
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Alias_ |
We'll just hope for the best :) |
| 16:18 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok what next |
| 16:18 |
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Alias_ |
look Padre |
| 16:18 |
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Alias_ |
perl Makefile.PL |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Found locale en_US.UTF-8 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Found wxWidgets 2.801 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Found Wx.pm 0.91 |
| 16:19 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Warning, threads::shared has already been loaded. To |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
enable shared variables, 'use threads' must be called |
| 16:19 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
before threads::shared or any module that uses it. |
| 16:19 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Writing Makefile for Padre |
| 16:19 |
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kthakore |
sudo make install |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Alias_ is that what I should do next? |
| 16:20 |
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Alias_ |
yup |
| 16:20 |
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Alias_ |
Well |
| 16:20 |
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Alias_ |
Actually |
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Alias_ |
try just this first |
| 16:21 |
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Alias_ |
sudo make test |
| 16:21 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Failed test 'STDOUT of Wx/Perl/Dialog/Simple.pm' |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
# at t/00-compile.t line 44. |
| 16:21 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
# got: '' |
| 16:21 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
# expected: 'ok' |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
Bailout called. Further testing stopped: Aborting test suite |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
that is what i got at the end of that mess |
| 16:22 |
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kthakore |
lol |
| 16:22 |
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kthakore |
the tests are too intense |
| 16:22 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i have no idea what all this means.. |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, imo just install it and run |
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kthakore |
Alias_, tsee you guys are making this too complicated |
| 16:23 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, sudo make install |
| 16:23 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, then padre |
| 16:23 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
sudo make install padre? |
| 16:23 |
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tsee |
"sudo make install" |
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tsee |
later: "padre" <--- to run it |
| 16:24 |
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Alias_ |
And lets hope it runs |
| 16:24 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
here we go |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
I have a window now |
| 16:25 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
padre |
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Alias_ |
awesome |
| 16:25 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
very cool icon in my dock now... nice |
| 16:26 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
alright.. now what is the next step |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
so i have this installed.. |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, yay! |
| 16:28 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, now where would you like to begin |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, I recommend going trough this |
| 16:28 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
well i just tested it by running my hello world script |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
it works |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i like that it has the output at the bottom of the window |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, \o hi five! |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, http://perldoc.perl.org/index-language.html |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
yeah i use this in terminal |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, right |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
so now where do i start |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, so pick one thing for today I guess |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok cool |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
what do u suggest |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, I perlsyn, perlop perldata |
| 16:31 |
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Alias_ |
Find a feature you like, then go hunting to find where it's implemented |
| 16:31 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok cool... |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, try making a terminal menu program for me |
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kthakore |
Alias_, where is the context help? |
| 16:31 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok cool... what do i need |
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Alias_ |
dunno |
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Alias_ |
But I need sleep :) |
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Alias_ |
It's 3:30am |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
1:32am here |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, perlsyn perlop and perlsub |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, lol |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, try that |
| 16:32 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, also use F2 a lot! |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
when you say try that... i don't know what you mean |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, oh ok |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i am in perlsyn now |
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Alias_ |
dgeorge29ca_, Perth or Asia? |
| 16:33 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
asia |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
korea actually |
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Alias_ |
oh hey! |
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Alias_ |
dgeorge29ca_, so there's one thing you can try |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok |
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Alias_ |
View -> Language -> Korean |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
cool it changed all the menus to korean |
| 16:34 |
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Alias_ |
It looks like it's SLIIIIGHTLY out of date |
| 16:34 |
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Alias_ |
Translation probably hasn't been maintained for a while |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
im not korean though |
| 16:35 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
im from canada |
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Alias_ |
oh, darn |
| 16:35 |
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Alias_ |
Well, we could also use an American/Canadian translation at some point :) |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
kthakore: i don't know how this is helping me at all |
| 16:36 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
cool Alias |
| 16:36 |
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Alias_ |
Anyways, night |
| 16:36 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
night night |
| 16:36 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i need to learn something |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, right ... you need a program you want to make |
| 16:37 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, then we will make + debug in Padre |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, use F2 for help |
| 16:37 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, get some sleep |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
what program |
| 16:37 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, anything |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, hangman game, a simple command line menu anything |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
where do i get this program |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, http://learn.perl.org/books/beginning-perl/ |
| 16:38 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, that works |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, I gtg bb soon |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
k |
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kthakore |
Alias_, did you go to sleep? |
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kthakore |
tsee, hi did you? |
| 16:49 |
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kthakore |
Getty, hiya |
| 16:49 |
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* Getty |
hides |
| 16:49 |
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kthakore |
Getty, um how do I add docs to ship with Padre? |
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tsee |
no. |
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tsee |
I'm just busy. |
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kthakore |
tsee, see above question |
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kthakore |
tsee, oh ok |
| 16:50 |
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tsee |
Put it in lib/Padre/Some/Thing.pod |
| 16:50 |
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kthakore |
tsee, I want to put this http://learn.perl.org/books/beginning-perl/ on there |
| 16:50 |
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kthakore |
tsee can we do that? or license hell |
| 16:50 |
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tsee |
license hell. |
| 16:50 |
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kthakore |
crap |
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kthakore |
tsee what if we made just the examples in there for usage? |
| 16:51 |
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tsee |
Besides. Shipping a whole book with a *program* is just silly. |
| 16:51 |
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kthakore |
tsee, is it? |
| 16:51 |
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tsee |
Yes. |
| 16:51 |
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kthakore |
it will help new ppl |
| 16:51 |
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kthakore |
ok a plugin then |
| 16:51 |
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kthakore |
Padre::plugin::beginningperl |
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tsee |
It's a *book* |
| 16:51 |
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kthakore |
?? |
| 16:51 |
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kthakore |
fine .. |
| 16:51 |
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tsee |
You mean take the examples and put them under Padre's examples directory? |
| 16:51 |
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tsee |
That makes much more sense. |
| 16:52 |
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kthakore |
yeah that |
| 16:52 |
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kthakore |
and the examples whould have pod explaination in it |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
on to chapter 2 of the beginning perl book |
| 16:53 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
very boring so far |
| 16:53 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
strings |
| 16:53 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, heh |
| 16:53 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, if you want fun |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, make a prgram that reads numbers in string |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, so input: One Hundred and One |
| 16:53 |
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kthakore |
output: 101 |
| 16:53 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, go make and enjoy :p |
| 16:54 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
how do you translate words into numbers |
| 16:54 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, that is for you to find out |
| 16:54 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, I can point you in the right direction |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
would you have to store them in an var |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, ahh ... :) |
| 16:55 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, ok well try this first |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok |
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kthakore |
my $input = 'Hundred'; |
| 16:55 |
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kthakore |
then give $output = 101 |
| 16:55 |
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kthakore |
so you will have a function (called sub in perl) like this number_from_string |
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kthakore |
$output = number_from_string($input) |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, give it a shot and come back (hint: perl regex) |
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kthakore |
:) |
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kthakore |
tsee, that was the most fun I had with perl when I started :) |
| 16:57 |
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kthakore |
regex ftw! |
| 16:57 |
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tsee |
yuck. |
| 16:57 |
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kthakore |
tsee, why? I like them |
| 16:57 |
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tsee |
Making people learn regular expressions as the first thing is... sadism. |
| 16:57 |
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kthakore |
hehe |
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kthakore |
tsee, I hinted |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
im new guys |
| 16:57 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, ok try split then |
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tsee |
Exactly my point. |
| 16:58 |
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kthakore |
tsee, fine what do you recommend |
| 16:58 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, I am sorry (but I digress it is an awesome thing to learn) |
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tsee |
Nothing. I'm just saying. Regular expressions are difficult beasts to get started with. |
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kthakore |
tsee, ah ok |
| 16:58 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, ok well give it a shot without regex |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i tell you that i have built so far... i built one program that takes the a currency trade entry and exit price and calculates the number of profit pips |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, try to get just one, ten, hundred and thousand |
| 16:59 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, nice in perl? |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
yep.. |
| 16:59 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
its was very easy... using <STDIN> |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, good! |
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kthakore |
next get comfotable with array and hashs |
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kthakore |
oh no ... I just realize this is way of topic |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i have test connecting to a database and getting information with perl that seems interesting to me |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, nice! |
| 17:01 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
what I am thinking that i could build a forex trade tracker using mysql and perl |
| 17:02 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
yeah i know... sorry |
| 17:02 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, nice! make your own or use this http://search.cpan.org/~edd/Fi[…].22/YahooQuote.pm |
| 17:02 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, read the code in that |
| 17:02 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, I don't think anyone minds |
| 17:03 |
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kthakore |
tsee, right? |
| 17:03 |
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tsee |
? |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
i really don't need it for this program... because the entry values will be typed in after the trade has been completed |
| 17:03 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, ah ok |
| 17:03 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
and the profit and loss will update when those values are placed |
| 17:04 |
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kthakore |
look at DBD::MySQL and DBI |
| 17:04 |
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kthakore |
tsee, super off topic |
| 17:04 |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
yep i have been looking at that.. first connection script to my localhost and mysql worked |
| 17:04 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, \o hui five |
| 17:04 |
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kthakore |
hi five |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, good luck I am going to go study |
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dgeorge29ca_ |
ok cool |
| 17:04 |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, I will be around |
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kthakore |
dgeorge29ca_, talk to me in #sdl |
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kthakore |
tsee, cya |
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