Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2009-12-30

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00:00 dapatrick dev.pl -d doesn't seem to be using ~/.padre/config.db
00:00 dapatrick Is that true?
00:00 dapatrick Where should I place the config file when running Padre this way?
00:11 Sewi Run Padre this way and look at the last tab of the Help -> About dialog, it shows the config dir...
00:11 Sewi gn8
00:23 dapatrick Ah, thanks.
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00:34 kthakore hi Alias
00:42 dapatrick I'm having a bit of trouble catching it.
00:43 dapatrick It dies in Padre::Wx::Dialog::OpenResource:​:_show_recently_opened_resources
00:43 dapatrick And I know that it dies because the table is missing.
00:43 dapatrick Is there more information that's needed?
00:43 dapatrick To fix the problem I mean.
00:44 dapatrick Or are you guys directing me to the debugger so that I can fix it. ;)
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01:13 waxhead so how did it go with the copy and paste stuff yesterday?
01:46 submersible waxhead: I think code4pay's patch was applied..
01:47 submersible I made an earlier change that _should_ propagate the editor selection to the X11 buffer so you can swipe text in padre and middle paste it into other apps
01:47 submersible the really difficult part would be to support middle button overpaste of the current selection with the previous selection
01:48 submersible For the time being I'm back on swarm trying to get the beginnings of operational transform working.
02:03 submersible oooh - clear recent files from file menu also borked..
02:09 submersible who was moving the menu stuff into actions ?
02:17 waxhead submersible, sewi started it...
02:18 submersible waxhead: thanks.. I will nag Sewi before i raise yet another trunk ticket
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06:29 Hyppolit #390: Copy and Paste onto highlighted text (accepted defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/390#comment:15 ]
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07:15 azawawi good morning
07:15 Alias_ heya
07:16 azawawi i was busy lately a lot at work
07:16 azawawi no time to commit anything...
07:16 * Alias_ same, but family
07:16 Alias_ And work is actually interesting for once
07:16 Alias_ I'm doing a HEAVY refactoring of Aspect.pm
07:17 azawawi cool
07:17 Alias_ Which involves untangling a bunch of modified Hook::LexWrap DamianCode, merging three levels of abstraction, and then making it suck less
07:18 azawawi also mibbit was broken on my chrome browser for 4 days!
07:19 * Alias_ uses multiple browsers
07:19 azawawi today they seemed to have fixed it
07:19 Alias_ Although at home I'm trying out Chrome a bit more, since I have 4 CPU cores there
07:19 Alias_ And I'm hoping that means Chrome has SIGNIFICANT better access to resources
07:19 azawawi chrome is beautiful in its UI simplicity and speed...
07:19 azawawi more viewable area...
07:20 Alias_ Which is funny, because Firefox itself was beautiful in it's UI simplicity and speed compared to Navigator
07:20 azawawi javascript-wise it is like 10-20% faster in speed than FF 3.5
07:20 azawawi hehe
07:20 Alias_ I don't bother paying attention to the JS thing
07:20 Alias_ Since there's an arms war in progress atm and the "fastest" is bouncing back and forth between them all
07:21 azawawi well i do, since i have a big heavy JS webapp at work :)
07:21 Alias_ Every time one finds a new speed hack, I'm sure the others are watching their repositories and stealing it
07:21 Alias_ Because it seems the "fastest browser" is "whatever came out most recently"
07:21 Alias_ Regardless of brand (except Microsoft)
07:21 azawawi yeah... they cache getter/setters for instance... and methods...
07:22 azawawi IEx is very very slow when having getters/setters...
07:23 azawawi but basically i like its tight debugging/profiling support so far. Error messages are cooler than FF a bit.
07:23 azawawi and more exact
07:23 Alias_ I give Chrome credit for being the first one to move on "Porn Mode"
07:24 azawawi :)
07:24 Alias_ i.e. Incognito/Privacy mode
07:24 Alias_ It's one of those little things that is really important when Very Important things are going in in your world/government
07:25 Alias_ You hope to never need it, but it's nice to have the option
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07:26 azawawi oh well, got to go now (again!)
07:26 azawawi Alias_: nice talking to you
07:26 Alias_ later
07:26 * azawawi work &
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08:15 Sewi gm
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15:17 rindolf Hi all.
15:17 rindolf szabgab++ # Restoring http://perl.org.il/
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16:08 szabgab rindolf, I am considering stopping the post-commit page generation on perl.org.il
16:09 rindolf szabgab: OK.
16:09 szabgab instead requiring the committer to first update the templates (as earlier), then run the generation script
16:09 szabgab and then commit the generated files too
16:10 szabgab so that's it? OK
16:10 szabgab ?
16:11 rindolf szabgab: yes, sounds fine.
16:11 rindolf szabgab: though I suggested that the final files be in a separate repository.
16:11 rindolf So the diffs will remain to the point.
16:11 rindolf s/suggested/suggest/
16:11 rindolf Or a separate directory inside the repository.
16:12 szabgab but then all the static files should be also in the other repo ?
16:12 rindolf In a different mini-repos.
16:12 rindolf szabgab: they should be in both.
16:12 szabgab with all the pictures and slides they are clearly not mini
16:12 rindolf szabgab: mini-means something like svn.berlios.de/svnroot/myr​epos/repos-for-my-project/ - the mini is repos-for-my-project
16:13 rindolf szabgab: see http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/web-cpan/ for an example.
16:15 szabgab I am not sure I'll follow this advice,  I already have too many repos
16:15 szabgab and I am quit tired with all the carry over things I did today and in the last few days
16:16 szabgab and stupid Yahoo slurp bot is still fetching pages from my old server (for another site) that I moved 3 days ago
16:16 szabgab they are the only ones still hitting the old IP
16:26 rindolf szabgab: you can set up a new mini-repos - i.e: a top-level directory in an existing repository.
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18:10 code4pay HI Sewi
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18:14 Sewi Hi code4pay
18:15 code4pay the Perl Monks  didn't really clear things up much :-)
18:15 Sewi Oh, I think they did
18:16 code4pay really, what did you get from it?
18:17 Getty szabgab: should i remind you from time to time to test new hyppolit? ;)
18:17 szabgab no need, thanks
18:17 szabgab I will
18:18 szabgab I am in a server cleanup period
18:18 Getty ok roger
18:19 Getty tell me instantly if there are problems, as far as i remember (its long time ago LOL) it worked for my part
18:19 Getty i just cant tell 100% cause of missing data file
18:21 Sewi code4pay: I'm not really here atm :-) but I think we could get two results:
18:21 Sewi 1. There is no "X11 default"
18:21 Sewi 2. Option 3 got some votes (like Padre was until r10023), but configurability would be good
18:21 Hyppolit Changeset #10023 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10023
18:23 code4pay ok, yes 3 seems the most desired behviour,
18:24 code4pay but I don;t think it should be in padre until it works correctly
18:24 code4pay and I think that is very difficult
18:26 code4pay I'll add the option and see if I can get 3 working properly as well
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19:05 Hyppolit #811: possibly copyrighted work without a license (share/languages/perl5/perlapi_current.yml) (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/811 ]
19:18 wolverian so I installed padre with the CPAN shell in strawberry perl. how do I run it?
19:19 szabgab there should be a padre.bat
19:19 szabgab so from cmd try typing padre
19:21 szabgab night &
19:24 wolverian well, that got my HD crunching, thanks.
19:24 wolverian let's see if something pops up. :)
19:26 wolverian nothing as of yet...
19:27 wolverian padre.bat worked better
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20:08 Sewi code4pay: Option 3 is what you removed :-)
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20:48 code4pay Sewi: yes it was broken,  JUst adding it as an preference, but will try and fix it first
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21:31 waxhead morning
21:41 code4pay Submersible: got some time to talk about #390 ?
21:41 Hyppolit #390: Copy and Paste onto highlighted text (accepted defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/390#comment:15 ]
22:13 Hyppolit #390: Copy and Paste onto highlighted text (accepted defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/390#comment:16 ]
22:16 Sewi code4pay: Do you want/need help?
22:17 code4pay I summarised where I'm up to in that last ticket update.
22:17 code4pay basically I can put back the old behaviour as an option but it will still be broken
22:23 Hyppolit #390: Copy and Paste onto highlighted text (accepted defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/390#comment:17 ]
22:26 Hyppolit #390: Copy and Paste onto highlighted text (accepted defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/390#comment:18 ]
22:35 waxhead code4pay++
22:38 code4pay What Wx control is used for the actual editor?
22:38 Sewi code4pay: Devel::Trace seems to work, but I'm too sleepy now to walk through the file :-(
22:39 code4pay Np, i'm just wriitng a standalone app with just the editor widget to see if it is padre or not
22:43 waxhead code4pay, STCStyledControl or something like that I think
22:44 code4pay thanks
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23:31 Hyppolit #390: Copy and Paste onto highlighted text (accepted defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/390#comment:19 ]

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