| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
|
* Alias |
growls at Padre flickering |
| 00:07 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10194 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10194 |
| 00:07 |
|
Hyppolit |
Added an Update lock to prevent flicker during menu changes |
| 00:07 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 00:11 |
|
waxhead |
did it work? |
| 00:12 |
|
waxhead |
I don't see much flickering |
| 00:12 |
|
Alias |
It's reduced it a little |
| 00:12 |
|
Alias |
I think we need to move to static top level menus fairly soon |
| 00:12 |
|
Alias |
IntelliJ solves the layout fairly well |
| 00:12 |
|
Alias |
They have something like this |
| 00:13 |
|
Alias |
File - Edit - Search - View - Analyze - Refactor - Run - Project - Tools - Window - Help |
| 00:13 |
|
Alias |
Instead of hiding away the top level entries, we could probably just change their content to be empty |
| 00:14 |
|
Alias |
So you get Refactor -> "No Options for This Document Type"(disabled) |
| 00:15 |
|
kthakore |
Alias: hi ... |
| 00:15 |
|
kthakore |
Alias: question |
| 00:15 |
|
Alias |
kthakore: heya |
| 00:15 |
|
kthakore |
Alias: I made a Run menu item |
| 00:15 |
|
kthakore |
that runs make test |
| 00:16 |
|
kthakore |
it is Build + run all test |
| 00:16 |
|
kthakore |
in run menu |
| 00:16 |
|
kthakore |
right now it has hard coded if Makefile is found |
| 00:16 |
|
kthakore |
it runs make test |
| 00:16 |
|
kthakore |
but strawberry has dmake |
| 00:17 |
|
kthakore |
how do I detect dmake v.s make ? |
| 00:17 |
|
Alias |
$Config{make} |
| 00:17 |
|
kthakore |
yay! |
| 00:17 |
|
kthakore |
thaknks |
| 00:17 |
|
Alias |
While you are there, take a good long read through the other things \%Config gives you |
| 00:18 |
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| 00:18 |
|
Alias |
The number one mistake people new to Perl toolchain development make it they don't realise how much stuff is run out of $Config |
| 00:18 |
|
Alias |
And instead they guess or just apply the most common convension |
| 00:18 |
|
Alias |
A quick browse through the stuff available to you in \%Config is well worth while |
| 00:20 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10195 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10195 |
| 00:20 |
|
Hyppolit |
wxDEFAULT_FRAME_STYLE already contains wxCLIP_CHILDREN |
| 00:20 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 00:22 |
|
waxhead |
how come .. ( parent dir ) was taken out of the directory tree control? |
| 00:23 |
|
Alias |
What's the label on the tab? |
| 00:23 |
|
Alias |
Directory or Project? |
| 00:26 |
|
waxhead |
project at hte moment, but when I closed all the open tabs it went back to directory, but the .. wasn't showing |
| 00:26 |
|
waxhead |
oh... it's there... |
| 00:26 |
|
waxhead |
sorry.. |
| 00:27 |
|
Alias |
n/p |
| 00:27 |
|
waxhead |
ahh... maybe it didn't 'clear' the notion of 'project'. |
| 00:28 |
|
waxhead |
now I'm looking around the Plugin dir it only shows Directory, where before it was showing project... |
| 00:28 |
|
waxhead |
What |
| 00:29 |
|
waxhead |
What's the go with plugins that want to store config/state information? do they have access to Padre's config DB, or should they do their own thing here? |
| 00:29 |
|
waxhead |
for example, the SVN plugin really should be configured to know what DIFF tool you want to use and open that when it needs to |
| 00:30 |
|
Hyppolit |
#826: Allow changing the FunctionList sort order by right click (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/826 ] |
| 00:30 |
|
Alias |
Padre has a setting for a diff tool |
| 00:30 |
|
Alias |
There's two levels to this |
| 00:30 |
|
Alias |
Padre itself should internally allow configuring of things that are likely to be reused a lot |
| 00:31 |
|
Alias |
So the location of diff tools etc |
| 00:31 |
|
Alias |
And Padre also currently has the config entry for the location of your personal/project level perltidyrc or perlcriticrc |
| 00:31 |
|
waxhead |
cool.. makes that bit easy then :) |
| 00:33 |
|
Alias |
Beyond that, I personally don't think that we should give plugins access to our database directly |
| 00:33 |
|
Alias |
I think we should provide a way for a plugin to have a private directory |
| 00:33 |
|
Alias |
If they want to put a SQLite database or working/cache data inside of it, that's up to them |
| 00:33 |
|
Alias |
We SHOULD however, support some kind of high level config integration |
| 00:33 |
|
Alias |
(Probably) :) |
| 00:34 |
|
Alias |
Where the plugin can say |
| 00:34 |
|
Alias |
sub plugin_settings { |
| 00:34 |
|
Alias |
return ( mysetting => Padre::Constant::HUMAN ); |
| 00:34 |
|
Alias |
... or something like that |
| 00:34 |
|
Alias |
And Padre will pick up a setting of something like |
| 00:34 |
|
Alias |
plugin.Full::Module::Name.mysetting |
| 00:35 |
|
Alias |
That could get a little tricky to adminster, but seems the sanest way |
| 00:36 |
|
Alias |
Adding Padre::Plugin API support for plugins to ask for their private directory path (auto-creating on the fly if needed) is the next logical step, I guess |
| 00:36 |
|
waxhead |
I'm sure there are going to be plugins that want to save state... |
| 00:36 |
|
Alias |
Sure |
| 00:36 |
|
Alias |
The cheapest way to kick that off is the private directory |
| 00:37 |
|
waxhead |
for example an SQL plugin that stores the connection information to various database servers |
| 00:37 |
|
Alias |
right |
| 00:37 |
|
Alias |
We even have an existing pattern for it |
| 00:37 |
|
Alias |
plugin_directory_foo |
| 00:37 |
|
Alias |
plugin_directory_share provides the File::ShareDir path for a plugin |
| 00:38 |
|
Alias |
plugin_directory_locale provides the path to the translation files |
| 00:38 |
|
waxhead |
I have to head to the shops to get food for kids lunches... back soon |
| 00:38 |
|
waxhead |
does it? |
| 00:38 |
|
Alias |
yup |
| 00:38 |
|
Alias |
Read through Padre::Plugin docs |
| 00:38 |
|
waxhead |
oh... I'll think about it while I'm out.. I'll check into it when i get back |
| 00:38 |
|
Alias |
So we'd want to add padre_plugin_data or something similar |
| 00:38 |
|
Alias |
or padre_plugin_private |
| 00:39 |
|
Alias |
Some operating systems may want us to split up the data by type |
| 00:41 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10196 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10196 |
| 00:41 |
|
Hyppolit |
Removed the use of the legacy plugin_locale_directory method |
| 00:41 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
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| 01:41 |
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kthakore |
Alias: I get this Global symbol "%Config" |
| 01:41 |
|
kthakore |
requires explicit package name at |
| 01:44 |
|
kthakore |
hi waxhead if you are arround where can I get the %Config hash from in Padre::Wx::Main callbacks? |
| 02:16 |
|
Alias |
use Config; |
| 02:16 |
|
Alias |
my $make = $Config{make} |
| 02:16 |
|
Alias |
perldoc Config; |
| 02:16 |
|
Alias |
perldoc Config |
| 02:18 |
|
kthakore |
I tried that |
| 02:18 |
|
kthakore |
no go |
| 02:20 |
|
shadowpaste |
"kthakore" at 217.168.144.84 pasted "Alias here is what I did" (35 lines) at http://scsys.co.uk:8001/38387 |
| 02:20 |
|
kthakore |
Alias: ^^ |
| 02:27 |
|
Alias |
And which make is it using? |
| 02:28 |
|
Alias |
perl -MConfig -e "print qq{$Config{make}\n};" |
| 02:33 |
|
kthakore |
make |
| 02:33 |
|
kthakore |
but the thing fails |
| 02:33 |
|
Alias |
What fails, and now |
| 02:34 |
|
Alias |
I'm not currently entirely convinced that ->run_command is working properly |
| 02:34 |
|
kthakore |
it says $Config{make} doesn't exist |
| 02:34 |
|
kthakore |
ok |
| 02:34 |
|
Alias |
It says make doesn't exist? |
| 02:39 |
|
kthakore |
no |
| 02:39 |
|
kthakore |
it says %config doesn't exist |
| 02:40 |
|
Alias |
%config doesn't exist |
| 02:40 |
|
Alias |
it's %Config |
| 02:40 |
|
kthakore |
right |
| 02:40 |
|
Alias |
And you didn't import it :) |
| 02:40 |
|
kthakore |
please read the diff |
| 02:40 |
|
Alias |
Which means it's %Config::Config |
| 02:40 |
|
kthakore |
oh |
| 02:40 |
|
kthakore |
ok |
| 02:41 |
|
kthakore |
work! |
| 02:41 |
|
kthakore |
ok |
| 02:41 |
|
kthakore |
I push |
| 02:42 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10197 | kthakore++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10197 |
| 02:42 |
|
Hyppolit |
Added configure usage for system specific make. Also made the text for Build + Test menu action better/ |
| 02:42 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 02:42 |
|
kthakore |
yay! |
| 02:42 |
|
kthakore |
ok now movie time |
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| 03:43 |
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waxhead |
Alias, with the plugin dir, can the method be 'lazy' and just be a copy of the plugin_directory_locale method, only for either the agreed on 'data' or 'private' ? |
| 03:44 |
|
Alias |
It should probably absolutely be lazy |
| 03:44 |
|
Alias |
Padre itself will never call it |
| 03:44 |
|
Getty |
Alias: oh awake already again? |
| 03:44 |
|
Alias |
The plugin is the only thing that ever calls that method, and Padre::Plugin just provides a sane default implementation that creates the directory on the fly if needed |
| 03:44 |
|
Alias |
"Already" |
| 03:45 |
|
Getty |
i cant messure, i'm still awake |
| 03:45 |
|
Getty |
its 5 o'clock here |
| 03:45 |
|
Getty |
and i made bad progress |
| 03:45 |
|
waxhead |
Alias, so it's a case of cargo culting the _locale method? :) |
| 03:48 |
|
Alias |
No |
| 03:49 |
|
Alias |
_locale and _share deal with system-installed read-only data |
| 03:49 |
|
Alias |
You want a location for run-time operating data |
| 03:49 |
|
Alias |
You want something more like PADRE_HOME/plugins/private/Padre-Plugin-ClassName/ |
| 03:50 |
|
Alias |
Looking at that path, I think the term "private" makes the most sense for this |
| 03:50 |
|
Alias |
Just so we're absolutely clear that Padre itself isn't allowed in there |
| 03:52 |
|
waxhead |
oh right.. |
| 03:52 |
|
waxhead |
ok.. I think I see enough to start doing some damage.. I'll mull it over and read code |
| 03:53 |
|
Alias |
Padre::Constant::SOMETHING is where you'd get the base of that path from |
| 04:09 |
|
waxhead |
PLUGIN_DIR would be it I'd say |
| 04:09 |
|
Alias |
Looks like it |
| 04:09 |
|
Alias |
We probably should move the search path for my plugin down a level or something while we're at it |
| 04:10 |
|
Alias |
PLUGIN_DIR/lib or something |
| 04:10 |
|
waxhead |
I might put all these constants in pod.. makes it easier to find in doco rather than having to read the code itself |
| 04:10 |
|
Alias |
That would be great |
| 04:10 |
|
waxhead |
cool... |
| 04:10 |
|
* Alias |
is actually a teensy bit peeved at that class |
| 04:10 |
|
Alias |
Since it requires a bunch of filesystem operations just to find out you are on Windows |
| 04:10 |
|
waxhead |
I'll go start dinner and make the doco the first thing I do.. then I'll do the rest... |
| 04:11 |
|
waxhead |
oo.. actually I only have 50 minutes for the release to start |
| 04:11 |
|
Alias |
:) |
| 04:11 |
|
Alias |
It can be done for the next release, that's fine |
| 04:11 |
|
waxhead |
so, dinner, release then the doco |
| 04:11 |
|
waxhead |
then the rest... |
| 04:11 |
|
Alias |
If we have to every hurry to get something in for release that isn't a blocker bug fix, we're doing osmething wrong |
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| 04:59 |
|
waxhead |
ok.. that's it.. no more changes until after release is done |
| 05:02 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10198 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10198 |
| 05:02 |
|
Hyppolit |
Update to Changes for release 0.55 |
| 05:02 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
| 05:04 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10199 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10199 |
| 05:04 |
|
Hyppolit |
Perl Tidy for release 0.55 |
| 05:04 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 05:06 |
|
waxhead |
Alias, ping... |
| 05:06 |
|
waxhead |
Alias, Setting VERSION 0.55 |
| 05:06 |
|
waxhead |
No VERSION in lib/Padre/DB/Migrate.pm |
| 05:06 |
|
waxhead |
No VERSION in lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/Patch.pm |
| 05:07 |
|
Alias |
uuum |
| 05:07 |
|
Alias |
Feel free to add them |
| 05:07 |
|
Alias |
Or I can... |
| 05:08 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10200 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10200 |
| 05:08 |
|
Hyppolit |
Matching versions to 0.54 |
| 05:08 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ |
| 05:09 |
|
waxhead |
thanks.. had to check dinner |
| 05:12 |
|
waxhead |
Alias, the update_version_number script is looking for $_ =~ /^our \$VERSION\s*=\s*'\d+\.\d\.?\d';/ |
| 05:12 |
|
waxhead |
either we make that script smarter or you'll need to comply with the rest of the Classes that use our $VERSION= |
| 05:17 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10201 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10201 |
| 05:17 |
|
Hyppolit |
Changed format of $VERSION to suit the update_version_number.pl script |
| 05:17 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ |
| 05:17 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10202 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10202 |
| 05:17 |
|
Hyppolit |
Changed format of $VERSION to suit the update_version_number.pl script |
| 05:17 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ |
| 05:20 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10203 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10203 |
| 05:20 |
|
Hyppolit |
Version update to 0.55 |
| 05:20 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DocBrowser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/QuickFix/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Project/ trunk/Pad |
| 05:39 |
|
waxhead |
hmmm My Plugin is showing 0.50... |
| 05:39 |
|
waxhead |
ok.. once more and I'll have a URL to test Padre with |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10204 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10204 |
| 05:43 |
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Hyppolit |
tag Padre-0.55 |
| 05:43 |
|
Hyppolit |
tags/ |
| 05:47 |
|
waxhead |
ok here it is, can people please try it out: http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pad[…]Padre-0.55.tar.gz |
| 05:47 |
|
waxhead |
szabgab, if all goes well: http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pad[…]Padre-0.55.tar.gz |
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waxhead |
Alias, can you test the new release? |
| 06:09 |
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waxhead |
Alias, http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pad[…]Padre-0.55.tar.gz |
| 06:09 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r10205 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10205 |
| 06:09 |
|
Hyppolit |
[XL] add some of the plugins |
| 06:09 |
|
Hyppolit |
trunk/Perl-Dist-XL/lib/Perl/Dist/ |
| 06:10 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, ping... |
| 06:10 |
|
szabgab |
gm |
| 06:10 |
|
waxhead |
afternoon.. :) |
| 06:10 |
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waxhead |
http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pad[…]Padre-0.55.tar.gz |
| 06:10 |
|
waxhead |
No one has taken it for a run yet... |
| 06:10 |
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szabgab |
copying now |
| 06:12 |
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submersible1 |
erk - waxhead - your upstream is dreadful ... must be in australia :) |
| 06:12 |
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waxhead |
yeah.. or the kids are hammering youtube! |
| 06:12 |
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szabgab |
http://perlide.org/download/so[…]Padre-0.55.tar.gz |
| 06:12 |
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submersible1 |
point |
| 06:13 |
|
szabgab |
or I was also uploading it ... |
| 06:13 |
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waxhead |
likely |
| 06:13 |
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szabgab |
waxhead, how old are your kids? |
| 06:13 |
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waxhead |
I'm thinking of churning and getting an ADSL2 connection |
| 06:13 |
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waxhead |
10 and 14 |
| 06:13 |
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szabgab |
so they are slightly older than mine |
| 06:13 |
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submersible1 |
and loose on youtube ! |
| 06:14 |
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waxhead |
schools holidays too... |
| 06:14 |
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waxhead |
bigpond sucks.. |
| 06:15 |
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submersible1 |
..great big donkey nuts - yes .. yes they do |
| 06:15 |
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szabgab |
it installed just fine on ubuntu |
| 06:15 |
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waxhead |
hence I'm thinking about churning.. but apathy with all the mailing lists holds me back |
| 06:15 |
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szabgab |
is it on CPAN already ? |
| 06:16 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, not yet.. just waiting on OK with installing.. I have it ready to go |
| 06:16 |
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submersible1 |
chasing deps here |
| 06:16 |
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szabgab |
just upload it |
| 06:16 |
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waxhead |
submersible1, internode seems pretty good... even has free iView which the ps3 now has in the menu! |
| 06:16 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, ok.. |
| 06:17 |
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submersible1 |
waxhead: i noticed that recently... most providers are doing a crap job at unmetered content |
| 06:17 |
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waxhead |
or just pick really crap content |
| 06:18 |
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szabgab |
on windows it will take a while to test as it decided to upgrade IE to 7 , just for the fun |
| 06:18 |
|
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Topic for #padreis now Latest Padre is 0.55, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001 |
| 06:20 |
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submersible1 |
works 4 me |
| 06:20 |
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waxhead |
sweet.. it worked here on ubuntu.. |
| 06:20 |
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waxhead |
I'll write the release details shortly... |
| 06:26 |
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szabgab |
installed on windows as well |
| 06:27 |
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waxhead |
you know it would be good to know this before we release it on CPAN :) |
| 06:28 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, don't forget to update trac with the new version |
| 06:28 |
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szabgab |
I don't think it is really that big an issue |
| 06:29 |
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szabgab |
if we find out it is broken we can just release a new one |
| 06:29 |
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szabgab |
you will have to build a new one anyway |
| 06:29 |
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waxhead |
sure.. nice not to though.. |
| 06:29 |
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waxhead |
right.. the hardest part is to be done.. writting up the release blurb... |
| 06:29 |
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szabgab |
:-) |
| 06:32 |
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szabgab |
btw we should get more pictures on http://padre.perlide.org/developers.html |
| 06:32 |
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szabgab |
and more people writing about themselves |
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Sewi |
gm |
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szabgab |
sgm sewi |
| 06:53 |
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szabgab |
we have a new version of Padre |
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szabgab |
and I just noticed I don't see you listed here: http://padre.perlide.org/developers.html |
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szabgab |
pls add yourself |
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Sewi |
ok |
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jq |
ooh, padre 0.55 is out? |
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szabgab |
yep |
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* Alias_ |
looks at his watch |
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Alias_ |
Should be |
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Alias_ |
jq: Although not really any features |
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Alias_ |
jq: Just a lot of performance stuff |
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szabgab |
and I am trying to build a stand-alone for linux using perl 5.11.4 and padre 0.55 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10206 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10206 |
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Hyppolit |
New developer list item |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/developers/ |
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Alias_ |
Now we show the list of all document types, I wonder if we should split it in half |
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Alias_ |
With "enhanced" document types that have Padre::Document subclasses active shown above the rest |
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szabgab |
Alias, in the show as or view as menu you mean? |
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Alias_ |
yeah |
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Alias_ |
I meant re: Add full list of file types to the View Document As menu (SZABGAB) |
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szabgab |
in some editors it has several groups |
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szabgab |
a-f g-q |
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Alias_ |
I don't want that |
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szabgab |
one level below the current list |
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Alias_ |
Maybe we could show "first class" languages explicitly, and then have a sub-menu for "limited support" |
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Alias_ |
a-f and g-q is stupid and arbitrary |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10207 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10207 |
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Hyppolit |
data update |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
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szabgab |
but easy to fin something |
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szabgab |
find |
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Alias_ |
Define a metric for "easy" |
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Alias_ |
You have to stop and think which range the first letter of the word falls into |
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Alias_ |
Easy but cumbersome |
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Sewi |
What about showing the ~5 last/most used items at the same level as a-f g-q |
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Alias_ |
I'd like to show all the file types for which we have Padre::Document::Module classes |
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Alias_ |
Or perhaps also for all those that we auto-detect reliably... |
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szabgab |
sounds reasonable but users won't really understand it |
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szabgab |
why is this here and that is there / |
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szabgab |
? |
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Sewi |
Sure, but how many different files does one develop actually use? I mean the top 5 last/most used types by this develops and they still should be in the sorted list |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10208 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10208 |
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Hyppolit |
Updating POD. |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
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szabgab |
you know we have no idea I think |
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szabgab |
when would people use this |
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szabgab |
only when we could not autodetect the correct file type |
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waxhead |
I only work on Perl in Padre |
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waxhead |
:) |
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Sewi |
Padre could save the count or last-used-date per type in some db and automatically show the top items from this db for quicker access. |
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szabgab |
I have Template:toolkit, HTMl::Template files |
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szabgab |
Apache conf file |
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szabgab |
anway probably more important is that padre will remember the manual association in a perl file base |
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szabgab |
Alias, ?? |
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szabgab |
anyway probably more important is that padre will remember the manual association in a perl file base |
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Sewi |
So your personal Padre would show Perl, TT, HTML and Apache top |
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szabgab |
s/perl file base/per file base |
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Alias_ |
<szabgab> sounds reasonable but users won't really understand it |
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Alias_ |
If you make the submenu something like "Limited Support Only" |
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Alias_ |
Then you get a list of files, and communicate the reason the others are treated as second class |
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szabgab |
maybe |
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Alias_ |
But I note that what we REALLY need is to get the Telemetry stuff from the popularity contest plugin working |
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Alias_ |
So we can actually start to collect this kind of thing |
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Sewi |
yes |
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szabgab |
in the end I don't think that this is so important now, it would be more important to (1 remember the selection, 2 improve the gile type guessing, 3 record what people actually select and send it to us) |
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Sewi |
"c" and "c++" are shown at the bottom of the list. I think they should be called "C" and "C++", shouldn't they? |
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szabgab |
oh you just said 3 |
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waxhead |
do we have a syntax highlighter for TT yet? That would be cool.. |
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Alias_ |
Oh hey! |
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Alias_ |
Someone fixed the Save All bug? |
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Sewi |
yes, waxhead did it yesterday |
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Alias_ |
Doesn't seem to work for me |
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* Alias_ |
checks to see if he's fallen behind trunk |
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Sewi |
Anybody against renaming of c to C? |
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szabgab |
Sewi++ |
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szabgab |
and I fixed the site updating code so you showed up |
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Sewi |
thanks |
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szabgab |
there are several things that I'll need to fix in that code |
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Alias_ |
Yeah, fix it |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10209 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10209 |
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Hyppolit |
Renamed c/c++ to C/C++ and made the mime type list sorted case-insensitive |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
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Hyppolit |
#827: Fix the web site generation code (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/827 ] |
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waxhead |
Save all Isn't working? |
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Alias_ |
waxhead: I think I'm out of date |
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Alias_ |
I meant the "changed" star on the tabs |
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waxhead |
Alias_ yeah.. that's what I've been harping on about all week.. I didn't want to do it becuase of the way it does it... but in the end the only way to stimulate discussion is to just drop it into trunk.. |
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waxhead |
:) |
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waxhead |
I'm not a big fan of the way it does it, simply because it will fire all the refresh stuff ( like update function list and outline ) when it grabs the the tab's focus... |
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waxhead |
#331 |
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Hyppolit |
#331: * saveall doesn't update tabs (ie asterisk still there until you click tab) (assigned defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ket/331#comment:7 ] |
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jq |
szabgab: regarding your last blog post... |
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jq |
here are mandriva stats: |
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jq |
14192 installed modules including 12830 from cpan (17.39% of cpan) that is 1821 distributions (9.33% of cpan) |
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szabgab |
thanks, do you know if any Mandriva perl packager will attend FOSDEM? |
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szabgab |
Is there anyone else besides you? |
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jq |
i think guillomovitch will attend |
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jq |
let me check |
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jq |
szabgab: he's not responding, i'll keep you updated |
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szabgab |
it would be nice if we all could have a chat there with the Debian Perl packagers |
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waxhead |
Sewi, what's your blog??? |
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waxhead |
url that is |
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jq |
speaking of debian packagers, is ryan52 around? |
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Sewi |
waxhead: http://padre-ide.de |
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Ryan52 |
jq: hi |
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jq |
Ryan52: hi - have you had a chance to look at module::packaged::generator? |
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Ryan52 |
woops, never ended up on my TODO list :/ |
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Ryan52 |
well it's there now.. |
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waxhead |
Sewi, get it syndicated on the Padre blogs!!! |
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waxhead |
I always have a look there... |
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waxhead |
it's in my list of opened tabs in firefox.. |
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jq |
Ryan52: ok, the code is ongithub. |
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Sewi |
ping getty |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10210 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10210 |
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Hyppolit |
Update to events. |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
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waxhead |
I wonder what I forgot to do this release? :) |
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waxhead |
OK, I'm off now... need to spend time with the family.. |
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szabgab |
jq, wait, what are those numbers? |
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szabgab |
12830 modules installed from cpan? |
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szabgab |
you mean .pm files, not CPAN distros, right? |
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jq |
yes |
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szabgab |
and 1821 distros |
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jq |
yes |
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szabgab |
that's what I count now, though we could also look at the number of .pm files |
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jq |
that's why i provided both |
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szabgab |
yes, thanks |
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szabgab |
I would really like to have this thing automated so I can fetch it from some Mandriva server |
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jq |
szabgab: check http://articles.mongueurs.net/[…]es/perles-39.html |
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szabgab |
and then I can build a database of the collected data from all downstream distribtions |
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jq |
szabgab: module::packaged::generator is ready for mandriva |
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jq |
i now need to run it weekly, and create a ordb::packaged::mandriva |
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szabgab |
I'll talk with about this when I am back from skiing |
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jq |
just need to fdi :-) |
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szabgab |
now I need to get packed |
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jq |
szabgab: guillomovitch will be at fosdem |
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jq |
padre 0.55 available on mandriva cooker |
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Alias_ |
szabgab, it would appear that Module::Install::Msgfmt breaks Module::Install |
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Alias_ |
szabgab, Module::Install plugins aren't meant to be system installed, ever |
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Alias_ |
unless you're an author |
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szabgab |
I don't know anything about that |
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Alias_ |
It's your odule |
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Alias_ |
module |
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Alias_ |
http://search.cpan.org/~szabga[…]cale-Msgfmt-0.14/ |
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szabgab |
I might have released a version of it but it is in our repo |
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Alias_ |
Also, it force-loads Module::Install::Share |
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Alias_ |
grrr, /me needs to repair stuff now |
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Alias_ |
:( |
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szabgab |
and I just probably patched it |
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* Alias_ |
ponders how hard he should angle for a keynote at YAPC::Asia |
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Alias_ |
I'm attracted by the idea that I get to introduce myself |
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Alias_ |
s/get/am required to/ |
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Alias_ |
Apparently, it's a Japanese thing |
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Alias_ |
This would seem like a rather awesome conflict of interest to exploit to the fullest |
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szabgab |
I came from the (near ) future ? |
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Alias_ |
I'm thinking rock music video montage |
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Alias_ |
http://www.mp3-codes.com/play/[…]azam_-_Spiderbait |
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Alias_ |
And copious false claims |
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szabgab |
kareoki ? |
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Alias_ |
Nah, it needs to be subtitles in advance |
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Alias_ |
So Kareoki might get complicated |
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Alias_ |
Plus, I'm a baritone |
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Alias_ |
Not a tenor, which rules out much popular music |
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szabgab |
ask Randal to thing :-) |
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szabgab |
sing |
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szabgab |
wow |
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Alias_ |
PERFECT montage music |
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Alias_ |
And it's both Australian, and a great mix of popular here but mostly unknown overseas |
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Alias_ |
And I've always wanted to do a rock video montage, just for the exercise :) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10211 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10211 |
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Hyppolit |
building using perl-5.11.4 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Perl-Dist-XL/lib/Perl/Dist/ |
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szabgab |
Here is the new Linux binary http://perlide.org/download/bi[…]4-xl-0.03.tar.bz2 if any of you would like to try it. After unzipping run ./perl-5.11.4-xl-0.03/perl/bin/padre.bat will blog about it later |
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bricas |
Alias_: should i be shipping padre.yml in the perltidy plugin dist? |
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Alias_ |
I don't use it in the tests |
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Alias_ |
Consider it optional |
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bricas |
kay. i think i'll omit it at this point. use it as a dev-only thing. |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10212 | bricas++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10212 |
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Hyppolit |
prep release |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-PerlTidy/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10213 | bricas++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10213 |
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Hyppolit |
release 0.10 |
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Hyppolit |
tags/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10214 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10214 |
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Hyppolit |
Ugly but working tab-switching speedup for Padre, needs to be replaced by a solution for the original problem (too many get_project_dir - calls) |
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trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
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szabgab |
see you next week |
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& |
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jq |
Alias_: ping |
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rindolf |
jq: I think he went to sleep. |
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ok |
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Alias_ |
jq: He tried and failed |
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Sewi |
How could that be. A module is on CPAN but cpan-tool doesn't find it. |
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bricas |
Sewi: what module? |
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bricas |
which, rather. |
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Sewi |
DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader::DBI::Sybase |
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bricas |
likely not indexed properly. |
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bricas |
oh, i see, it's part of a development dist (note the _ in the version number) -- which are not indexed. |
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Sewi |
oh, sorry, didn't know this |
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bricas |
np. glad i could help. |
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Sewi |
Released 6 days ago |
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morning |
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