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submersible |
braaains. |
| 04:11 |
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kthakore |
submersible: booooobs |
| 04:12 |
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submersible |
kthakore: despite it all - that still makes me laugh |
| 04:12 |
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submersible |
hows the SDL treating you? |
| 04:12 |
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kthakore |
submersible: it is hurting right now |
| 04:13 |
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kthakore |
submersible: I got old maintainer mad at me |
| 04:13 |
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submersible |
that always helps |
| 04:13 |
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kthakore |
submersible: failed to get frozen bubble working again |
| 04:13 |
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submersible |
:D |
| 04:13 |
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kthakore |
and broke 30% of my tests |
| 04:13 |
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submersible |
oh shit - the world may come to an end! |
| 04:13 |
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kthakore |
yup |
| 04:13 |
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kthakore |
all in a weeks work |
| 04:14 |
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submersible |
I have some vague success w/ swarm |
| 04:14 |
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submersible |
enough to consider writing a global transport in addition to the multicast one. |
| 04:15 |
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kthakore |
nice! |
| 04:15 |
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kthakore |
udp multicast *shudder* |
| 04:15 |
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kthakore |
I am not a fan of network programing |
| 04:15 |
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kthakore |
oh ... F@#@ just realized why my tests aren't work |
| 04:15 |
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kthakore |
my video card is not setup |
| 04:16 |
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kthakore |
ahhahah |
| 04:31 |
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waxhead |
submersible, how goes the work with tsee on the branch? |
| 04:33 |
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submersible |
waxhead: I think it works now... but possibly db handles are leaking into the bg threads and issues some BIZARRE warnings in global destruction |
| 04:33 |
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submersible |
we're not sure. the t/8* task and service tests exhibit the warning |
| 04:33 |
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waxhead |
does that mean the branch will likely be merged soon, or still holding off a bit? |
| 04:34 |
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submersible |
the event passing between threads is now done with the ide->wx object instead of main window |
| 04:34 |
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submersible |
the only way we will get real testing is to impose it on trunk :) |
| 04:35 |
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submersible |
kthakore: udp multicast IS brutal - but it generally 'just works' on your local physical network (network is the computer - remind me to send mail to cisco thanking them for that one ) |
| 04:36 |
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kthakore |
submersible: meh what ever |
| 04:36 |
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kthakore |
submersible: I am glad my networking course is over is all |
| 04:36 |
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submersible |
really ? |
| 04:36 |
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kthakore |
yes really |
| 04:37 |
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kthakore |
I hated that couse so much |
| 04:37 |
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kthakore |
the prof never could explain it well |
| 04:37 |
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kthakore |
and I gave up |
| 04:37 |
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submersible |
I wonder in 100 years what the likes of us will think of the OSI model ... or the socket API as defined |
| 04:37 |
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kthakore |
in a 100 years the human race will be gone |
| 04:37 |
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kthakore |
I know I am from the future |
| 04:37 |
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submersible |
and clearly an alien too |
| 04:37 |
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submersible |
:) |
| 04:37 |
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kthakore |
alien? |
| 04:38 |
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kthakore |
how |
| 04:38 |
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submersible |
well the human race is gone in 100 years .. so you're not human... what else? the ants have taken over? |
| 04:38 |
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kthakore |
no the cockroaches |
| 04:38 |
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submersible |
rise of the machines. |
| 04:38 |
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kthakore |
ants are pussies |
| 04:39 |
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kthakore |
machines rusted away |
| 04:39 |
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kthakore |
radioactive cockroaches |
| 04:39 |
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kthakore |
with laser beam eyes |
| 04:39 |
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kthakore |
they kill all the humans |
| 04:40 |
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kthakore |
yay! |
| 04:40 |
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kthakore |
my tests work again! |
| 04:40 |
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kthakore |
:) |
| 04:41 |
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kthakore |
forgot to compile SDL with x11-dev |
| 04:41 |
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kthakore |
submersible: I win! |
| 04:41 |
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submersible |
yes yes |
| 04:41 |
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submersible |
but still the cockroaches have no grasp of networking |
| 04:42 |
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kthakore |
submersible: but they are radioactive and have laser beams |
| 04:42 |
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kthakore |
they have no need for your mortal playthings |
| 04:42 |
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submersible |
aha - optical signaling |
| 04:42 |
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kthakore |
they have no need for your mortal playthings |
| 04:42 |
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submersible |
so they DO have networking ! |
| 04:42 |
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kthakore |
submersible: anywho wanna see SDL perl v2.0 with tests? |
| 04:42 |
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kthakore |
they have no need for your mortal playthings |
| 04:43 |
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* submersible |
gets dangerously off topic |
| 04:43 |
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kthakore |
submersible: np |
| 04:43 |
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kthakore |
all the ops are asleep |
| 04:43 |
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submersible |
kthakore: where is the repo? |
| 04:43 |
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kthakore |
http://github.com/kthakore/SDL_perl/tree/redesign |
| 04:43 |
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kthakore |
submersible: I suggest you download it |
| 04:44 |
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kthakore |
submersible: with this http://github.com/kthakore/SDL[…]/tarball/redesign |
| 04:44 |
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submersible |
standby |
| 04:44 |
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kthakore |
hooray! |
| 04:44 |
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kthakore |
if you are on windows |
| 04:44 |
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kthakore |
install Alien::SDL first |
| 04:44 |
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submersible |
ubuntu 9.10 |
| 04:46 |
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submersible |
lots of missing heads reported from Build.PL - ah wait a moment |
| 04:46 |
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submersible |
I need sdl v2 ? or 1.2 |
| 04:46 |
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kthakore |
sdl 1.2 is fine |
| 04:46 |
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kthakore |
you need the dev |
| 04:47 |
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submersible |
ok here we go - canonical package the dev parts in pieces |
| 04:47 |
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kthakore |
sudo apt-get install libsdl-net1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev libsmpeg-dev libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev |
| 04:47 |
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Hyppolit |
Changeset #1 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/1 |
| 04:47 |
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kthakore |
that should work |
| 04:47 |
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submersible |
I think I just found most of them... |
| 04:50 |
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submersible |
damn them where is the virtual for libsdl-dev-all |
| 04:50 |
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submersible |
needed libsdl-gfx-dev also |
| 04:50 |
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kthakore |
submersible: oh let me add that to the wiki |
| 04:50 |
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submersible |
building |
| 04:51 |
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kthakore |
yay! |
| 04:51 |
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submersible |
testing |
| 04:52 |
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submersible |
black and blue windows jumping all over the place. |
| 04:52 |
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submersible |
oh - there goes a drawing canvas... |
| 04:52 |
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submersible |
.. and another one |
| 04:53 |
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submersible |
t/core_video.t (Wstat: 0 Tests: 64 Failed: 0) |
| 04:53 |
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submersible |
TODO passed: 5, 7, 36 |
| 04:53 |
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submersible |
Files=56, Tests=1543, 95 wallclock secs ( 0.40 usr 0.09 sys + 5.87 cusr 0.69 csys = 7.05 CPU) |
| 04:53 |
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submersible |
Result: PASS |
| 04:53 |
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submersible |
nice |
| 04:53 |
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submersible |
I'd call that a successful test |
| 04:54 |
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kthakore |
yay! |
| 04:54 |
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kthakore |
\o |
| 04:54 |
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kthakore |
also guess what |
| 04:54 |
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kthakore |
we have procedurally generating sound now |
| 04:54 |
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kthakore |
do |
| 04:54 |
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kthakore |
set RELEASE_TESTING=1 |
| 04:54 |
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kthakore |
perl Build test --test_files t/core_audiospec.t |
| 04:55 |
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kthakore |
export RELEASE_TESTING=1 |
| 04:55 |
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kthakore |
I meant |
| 04:55 |
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kthakore |
submersible: k gtg to sleep |
| 04:56 |
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waxhead |
submersible, sorry.. fiddling with setting up internet radio stations.. internode have a decent list of unmetered ones.. |
| 04:56 |
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waxhead |
yes, the branch needs to be merged into trunk when things are close enough to being 'ready'.. we can use this cycle to give it a good going over... |
| 05:02 |
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submersible |
kthakore: I hear a buzzz |
| 05:03 |
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submersible |
or what one might call a digital fart noise |
| 05:04 |
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submersible |
waxhead: I'm thinking we should smash it down onto trunk immediately after a release. so all the devs can suffer/report bugs from the very beginning of a cycle |
| 05:05 |
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submersible |
waxhead: btw - I had to stop myself posting into that thread w/ Shlomi jq and you ... (don't feed the trolls) |
| 05:06 |
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submersible |
also the slave-driver branch needs to say what it ACTUALLY addresses. and hopefully a way of testing same. |
| 05:08 |
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waxhead |
submersible, I don't think Schlomi meant to be as acerbic as it came across... however it was worth reminding him that everyone has a life and time frames don't always meet expectations.. |
| 05:08 |
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submersible |
possibly not. |
| 05:09 |
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waxhead |
as to the branch being merged in.. yes, it should be done.. I had picked after 0.56 being a good time, as most people who commented felt the same.. |
| 05:09 |
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waxhead |
however I'm happy to see a 0.57 go out the door with the merge right behind it.. |
| 05:09 |
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submersible |
hence my reluctance to suggest he be the appointed/annointed marketing vice-president as pennance for caring so much |
| 05:10 |
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waxhead |
then we can really get into hammer it out over a full dev cycle... |
| 05:10 |
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submersible |
personally - I am not suffering too much from memory issues w/ padre. |
| 05:10 |
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submersible |
which i believe was the primary goal. |
| 05:10 |
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waxhead |
good thing.. I see these things can all too easily escalate beyond the point necessary... |
| 05:11 |
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waxhead |
me either.. to be honest.. but I guess any gains that can be made should be where it's managable to do so... |
| 05:13 |
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waxhead |
I don't think I've had a release where I didn't miss something or had a suggestion for the following release... of course all best intentions to remember.. but I don't... I'm surprised I still have the job.. :) |
| 05:16 |
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submersible |
unless you wiki them - you'll be doing the job forever. scribble some of the big one down in a wikidoc for the release manager de-jour |
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waxhead |
there' already a wiki page. i'm adding toit as i go |
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* submersible |
forms a concatenated string of curses for the optus dsl network |
| 05:46 |
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waxhead |
:) |
| 05:47 |
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waxhead |
internode seems to be pretty good so far.. based on a weeks use! :0 |
| 05:47 |
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* waxhead |
goes back to tidying up the house |
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azawawi |
good morning |
| 06:24 |
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submersible |
hi' |
| 06:25 |
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azawawi |
submersible: so radioactive cockroaches with laser beams will rule the world in the end? :) |
| 06:25 |
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submersible |
if you believe kthakore |
| 06:26 |
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submersible |
my main interest is that they MUST be using the laser beams as a networking medium. photonic transmission |
| 06:26 |
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azawawi |
submersible: im thinking of creating a Edit chrome server for Padre https://chrome.google.com/exte[…]pfkggjbhkghgicgoh |
| 06:27 |
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azawawi |
server code is like this http://github.com/stsquad/emac[…]r/servers/pycl.py |
| 06:27 |
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azawawi |
yuck python :) |
| 06:28 |
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submersible |
slow down there speedy. ? |
| 06:29 |
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submersible |
forgive the stupid question : what the hell for? |
| 06:29 |
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azawawi |
for fun :) |
| 06:29 |
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submersible |
ok |
| 06:29 |
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azawawi |
as a plugin ofcourse... |
| 06:30 |
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submersible |
hmm - well as yet I have not used padre single instance server but I gather that the WxServerSocket works |
| 06:30 |
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submersible |
presently I am struggling w/ the ClientSocket |
| 06:31 |
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* azawawi |
writes a blog post atm about it |
| 06:45 |
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submersible |
aha - finally some success. |
| 06:45 |
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submersible |
I need to stop using the developer tools 'Run document inside padre' |
| 06:45 |
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submersible |
for some of these tests - it seems that weird stuff goes wrong by doing that |
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azawawi |
(for your review) http://ahmadzawawi.blogspot.co[…]-and-firefox.html |
| 08:09 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10536 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10536 |
| 08:09 |
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Hyppolit |
Added "Padre, Firefox and Chrome" blog post to Padre website |
| 08:09 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
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Alias__ |
\o |
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Sewi |
hi |
| 10:18 |
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tsee |
good morning |
| 10:22 |
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kgish |
mornin' |
| 10:40 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10537 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10537 |
| 10:40 |
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Hyppolit |
- Removed the final usage of the "Provider" phrasing, and made more |
| 10:40 |
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Hyppolit |
of the modules used by the Perl help provider run-time loaded (ADAMK) |
| 10:40 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
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azawawi |
tsee: ping |
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tsee |
pong |
| 11:19 |
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azawawi |
tsee: BEGIN { eval { require Wx::RichText; } } ... |
| 11:20 |
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azawawi |
tsee: use Wx::RichText; ... |
| 11:20 |
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azawawi |
tsee: i found it in wx samples |
| 11:20 |
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LeK |
hi |
| 11:20 |
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azawawi |
tsee: wxperl_demo |
| 11:21 |
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tsee |
I'll give that a shot. |
| 11:22 |
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azawawi |
i tested it in linux and it worked! :) |
| 11:22 |
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tsee |
Works, yes. |
| 11:22 |
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azawawi |
the thing i do not understand why Padre::Wx made it work on win32 but not on Linux |
| 11:22 |
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tsee |
Yeah. |
| 11:22 |
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tsee |
No idea. |
| 11:23 |
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azawawi |
use Wx qw(:everything); |
| 11:23 |
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tsee |
Either we a) ignore it and add a "use Wx::Richtext" (which should make it work) or b) ping wxperl-users/Mattia about it. |
| 11:23 |
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tsee |
Wx::RichText, I meant |
| 11:23 |
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azawawi |
tsee: the thing is it is already in the wxperl sample... |
| 11:23 |
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tsee |
I only every tried Wx::RichTextCtrl. |
| 11:23 |
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azawawi |
tsee: very strange |
| 11:23 |
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tsee |
I meant about why it's working on win32 and not linux. |
| 11:24 |
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tsee |
What's the status of the key-binding abstraction, by the way? |
| 11:24 |
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tsee |
Stalled, right? |
| 11:25 |
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azawawi |
last thing Sewi++ was working on it |
| 11:25 |
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azawawi |
how about we do use PPI for the right click "Edit Regex" for small perl documents? |
| 11:25 |
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azawawi |
s/do// |
| 11:26 |
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tsee |
I think distringuishing between small and large documents is madness. |
| 11:26 |
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tsee |
*distinguishing |
| 11:26 |
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tsee |
On *any* level. |
| 11:27 |
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tsee |
I'm all for heuristics for Padre, usually, but that's the wrong type. |
| 11:27 |
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azawawi |
as an initial implementation i.e. |
| 11:28 |
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tsee |
Well, it'd be for waste as soon as there is a better one. I mean, it's up to you whether you want to invest the effort. |
| 11:28 |
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tsee |
OTOH you could do something else entirely, something reliable: |
| 11:29 |
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tsee |
Just offer the right-click menu item if the user has selected something. |
| 11:29 |
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tsee |
And put the selection into the editor to start with. |
| 11:29 |
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tsee |
That isn't quite as flashy, but it's reliable. |
| 11:29 |
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tsee |
And very easy to do. |
| 11:30 |
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azawawi |
ok then, right click on a selection it is |
| 11:33 |
|
* azawawi |
starts working on the dumb-but-smart right-click :) |
| 11:43 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10538 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10538 |
| 11:43 |
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Hyppolit |
The regex field is now rich text control (to prepare for PPIx::Regex highlighting) and added an explicit 'use Wx::RichText' that should fix loading problems on Linux (tsee++). |
| 11:43 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
| 11:50 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10539 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10539 |
| 11:50 |
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Hyppolit |
Added a dummy "Edit with Regex Editor" right click option when something is highlighted. |
| 11:50 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10540 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10540 |
| 12:07 |
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Hyppolit |
Regex Editor is now lazy like "Open resource" and populates regular expression from user selections. |
| 12:07 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
| 12:09 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10541 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10541 |
| 12:09 |
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Hyppolit |
Right click "Edit with Regex Editor" now works on user-selected text. Enjoy :) |
| 12:09 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ |
| 12:11 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10542 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10542 |
| 12:11 |
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Hyppolit |
Updated Changes |
| 12:11 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10543 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10543 |
| 12:12 |
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Hyppolit |
Perl tidy |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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kthakore |
morning |
| 12:55 |
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Alias__ |
<tsee> I think distringuishing between small and large documents is madness. |
| 12:55 |
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Alias__ |
I concur with this opinion |
| 12:55 |
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Alias__ |
Especially because as far as PPI is concerned "small" is a very low number |
| 12:55 |
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Alias__ |
Assuming a turnaround time of 100 milliseconds, we can only parse about 100-200 lines |
| 12:58 |
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tsee |
Alias: Thought you would :) |
| 12:58 |
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azawawi |
lol :) |
| 12:59 |
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Alias__ |
That's also why I think the PPI syntax highlighter is problematic |
| 12:59 |
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Alias__ |
Unless I add support to PPI for doing partial windowed document parsing |
| 12:59 |
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Alias__ |
And only parsed the lines inside the current window |
| 13:00 |
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azawawi |
Alias__: im also inclined to moving to a simpler Perl 6 highlighter... since STD.pm is always very very slow. |
| 13:00 |
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azawawi |
Alias__: highlighting should be simple and quick, refactoring should be robust and depending on PPI / STD.pm... |
| 13:02 |
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Alias__ |
Well, for Perl 6 you can be a bit more slow and alpha'y |
| 13:02 |
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Alias__ |
I've never seen a Perl 6 file larger than about 200 lines :) |
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Alias__ |
submersible2, hi submersible at home |
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azawawi |
Alias__: STD.pm ... :) |
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Alias__ |
I've certainly never seen pathalogical Perl 6 files, like the pathalogical Perl 5 files with 25,000 lines |
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tsee |
Alias__, that's not even close to pathological. |
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azawawi |
Alias__: why are we putting a message box in Open URL... try opening http://svn.pugscode.org/pugs/src/perl6/STD.pm |
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Alias__ |
tsee: It is for PPI |
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Alias__ |
That's a 15-30 second parse time |
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tsee |
Well, yes. |
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Alias__ |
And a 20-fold memory expansion |
| 13:05 |
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Alias__ |
At minimum |
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tsee |
Yummy. |
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kthakore |
hiya |
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azawawi |
kthakore: hello |
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kthakore |
azawawi: hiya |
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Alias__ |
azawawi, interesting. I didn't know we could do that |
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kthakore |
doing some Tron AI competition with perl! |
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kthakore |
http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/contest/index.php |
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Alias__ |
azawawi, in fact it's such an unexpected feature that I never would have even looked for it |
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kthakore |
and waiting for Padre to install from scratch jeez deps have grown a lot |
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Alias__ |
kthakore, they actually haven't very much |
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tsee |
Almost the opposite. |
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Alias__ |
We're up by 2 or 3 over the last 3 months |
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Alias__ |
Although the addition of current versions of ExtUtils::MakeMaker and Module::Build might cause a greater number of upgrades-from-core |
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kthakore |
Alias__: well the deps of the deps of the deps on a fresh debian install is a lot |
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Alias__ |
It's probably M:B and EU::MM |
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Alias__ |
azawawi, even if we don't need the Open URL now, we will in the future |
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Alias__ |
Because we'll need special directory handling for it |
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kthakore |
ok |
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kthakore |
Alias__: so AI for tron in perl |
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kthakore |
interested ;) |
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kthakore |
my weekend project |
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Alias__ |
I try to avoid competitions run by Google, because there's too much competition |
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azawawi |
Alias__: the bad thing about it is that my padre.exe is now stuck trying to open it on every startup... |
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Alias__ |
I'm actually involved in an alternative competition |
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Alias__ |
kthakore... which I came second in, actually :) |
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kthakore |
really? |
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kthakore |
where is the link? |
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Alias__ |
Here's the entry we made |
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Alias__ |
http://geo2gov.com.au/ |
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kthakore |
well now I have to compete with your AI on tron bots! |
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Alias__ |
Mine? |
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Alias__ |
I've got another competition to win now |
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Alias__ |
http://www.information.nsw.gov.au/apps4nsw |
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kthakore |
ok |
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Alias__ |
So I'm fully consumed until March 22 |
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kthakore |
awww |
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kthakore |
Entry is open to: individuals who are Australian citizens or Australian residents; |
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kthakore |
:P |
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kthakore |
oh well |
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Alias__ |
This competition has less competition and more prize money :) |
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kthakore |
damn it |
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kthakore |
I wnat 100 grand |
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kthakore |
gimmme |
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kthakore |
:p |
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kthakore |
nah i kidd |
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kthakore |
I gotta prep for a game hackathon for TPM |
| 13:32 |
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kthakore |
oh Alias__ also I start work on frozen bubble |
| 13:32 |
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kthakore |
I have no clue how to get rid of POSIX() dependency in it |
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kthakore |
Alias__: any clue? |
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Alias__ |
The symbol that Windows doesn't have? |
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kthakore |
no |
| 13:33 |
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kthakore |
it has this in the code |
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kthakore |
use POSIX |
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kthakore |
wth is that? |
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kthakore |
I am assuming it is not in windows |
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Alias__ |
POSIX is the hardcore "official" standardisation of UNIX |
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kthakore |
I know |
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Alias__ |
At a low API level |
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kthakore |
but frozenbubble depends on it |
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kthakore |
how do I replace that |
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Alias__ |
Windows supports POSIX, because POSIX compliance is needed to get military jobs and so on |
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kthakore |
really? |
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Alias__ |
Yes |
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kthakore |
oh phew! |
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Alias__ |
It just doesn't necesarily support _ALL_ of it |
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kthakore |
I thought it was os specific |
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kthakore |
er .... |
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kthakore |
that is going to suck :( |
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Alias__ |
POSIX is completely and absolutely OS independant |
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Alias__ |
That's the entire point |
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kthakore |
ok |
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kthakore |
08:34 < Alias__> It just doesn't necesarily support _ALL_ of it |
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kthakore |
that is going to suck bad |
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Alias__ |
Not necesarily |
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Alias__ |
Only if you use something it doesn't support |
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Alias__ |
You'll know pretty fast |
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kthakore |
ok |
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Alias__ |
Because you'll get "Symbol blah is not exported on this host" or something like that |
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kthakore |
ok |
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Alias__ |
About 90% of the time it's no problem |
| 13:36 |
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kthakore |
ok that I have dealt with before |
| 13:36 |
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kthakore |
how do I go about adapting old makefiles to Makefile.PL |
| 13:36 |
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kthakore |
becuase the makefiles are not dmake compatible |
| 13:36 |
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Alias__ |
oh dear |
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Alias__ |
Well... |
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Alias__ |
Strawberry does ship regular make |
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Alias__ |
Just not as "make" |
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kthakore |
right |
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Alias__ |
So if you're doing an Alien:: kind of thing, it's there |
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kthakore |
but that fails bad |
| 13:37 |
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Alias__ |
But you have to go through some contortions |
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Alias__ |
I assume it fails because it assumes all kinds of Unix commands exist? |
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kthakore |
yes |
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kthakore |
and other gunk |
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kthakore |
that dmake goes not a valid makefile |
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Alias__ |
What's the makefile for? |
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kthakore |
c stuff |
| 13:38 |
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Alias__ |
No |
| 13:38 |
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kthakore |
for the server and otherthings |
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kthakore |
fb_c_stuff |
| 13:38 |
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Alias__ |
I mean is it for the underlying C libraries, or for the Perl stuff |
| 13:38 |
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kthakore |
yes it uses bsd sockets |
| 13:38 |
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kthakore |
and pthreads |
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kthakore |
and SDL_pango |
| 13:38 |
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Alias__ |
So those exist on Windows? |
| 13:38 |
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kthakore |
err ... I dunno |
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* kthakore |
has to do way more research |
| 13:39 |
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Alias__ |
That's probably something you should check |
| 13:39 |
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kthakore |
ok I will do that |
| 13:39 |
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Alias__ |
Because if we can't actually build the C stuff on Windows, the entire exercise is pointless |
| 13:39 |
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Alias__ |
Talk to kmx |
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kthakore |
ok |
| 13:39 |
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Alias__ |
in #win32 |
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kthakore |
I will |
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tsee |
IT USES PTHREADS!? |
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kthakore |
tsee: I think so |
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kthakore |
I dunno |
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kthakore |
it is hughe |
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tsee |
You mean perl pthreads or C pthreads? |
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tsee |
C I presume. |
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tsee |
You'll have a hard time with this, that much I can tell you. |
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kthakore |
tsee: indeed |
| 13:41 |
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kthakore |
but ... it will be FUN! |
| 13:41 |
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kthakore |
hehe |
| 13:41 |
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kthakore |
I am a crazy kook |
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tsee |
Well, I guess you have a different idea of fun than I do. |
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kthakore |
tsee: this just means I might have to write some C |
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kthakore |
tsee: but I can see why FB2.2 wasn't ported to windows |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10544 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10544 |
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Hyppolit |
Major refactoring of Local::Msgfmt, not it's compatible with Module::Install |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Locale-Msgfmt/ trunk/Locale-Msgfmt/lib/Locale/ trunk/Locale-Msgfmt/lib/Locale/Msgfmt/ trunk/Locale-Msgfmt/lib/Module/Install/ trunk/Locale-Msgfmt/script/ trunk/Locale-Msgfmt/t/ |
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Alias__ |
I need someone to run the release of that |
| 13:44 |
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Alias__ |
Presumably szbalint |
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Alias__ |
er |
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Alias__ |
szab |
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Alias__ |
szabgab |
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Alias__ |
etc |
| 13:47 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10545 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10545 |
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Hyppolit |
Added a private method to return all parse regex elements from PPIx::Regexp (for highlighting experiment) |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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* azawawi |
lunch & |
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szbalint |
Alias__: hehe. ill pass that on to gabor. we're both at fosdem |
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Alias__ |
Thanks |
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Alias__ |
Shit |
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Alias__ |
Padre keeps sending files into mixed newlines |
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* Alias__ |
uploads a new PPI release, which reduces the number of dependencies in Padre by one |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10546 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10546 |
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Hyppolit |
Added commented experimental code for safe keeping |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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Geo |
hey guys |
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Geo |
is it normal for padre to uninstall my Strawberry Perl, when it gets uninstalled? |
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kthakore |
lol what |
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kthakore |
garu: no |
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kthakore |
oops |
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kthakore |
oh he is gone |
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kthakore |
Geo if you come back no |
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Alias_ |
If he comes back he won't see that :) |
| 18:30 |
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Alias_ |
And it is normal, if he had installed Padre standalone |
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kthakore |
oh yeah |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r10547 | chorny++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10547 |
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Hyppolit |
2 typo in docs |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Manual/ |
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submersible2 |
argh - why does help search keep indexing the world |
