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| 00:04 | Alias_ joined #padre | |
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| 00:09 | submersible | morning australiens |
| 00:10 | waxhead | hey sub |
| 00:10 | got much rain up your way? | |
| 00:11 | submersible | last night was awash |
| 00:11 | kthakore | submersible: I got a new supa hard game for you! |
| 00:12 | submersible | uh-oh! |
| 00:12 | kthakore | submersible: http://yapgh.blogspot.com/ |
| 00:12 | submersible | still have not started writing anti-pacman |
| 00:12 | kthakore | submersible: first post |
| 00:12 | Alias_: I will allow you to play it too | |
| 00:13 | ;) | |
| 00:13 | waxhead | submersible++ on the release of swarm! |
| 00:13 | kthakore | Sewi: thank you fixing that horrible horrible bug |
| 00:14 | swarm is out? | |
| 00:14 | submersible: may I try it? | |
| 00:14 | submersible | released to cpan with the global transport as default |
| 00:14 | 0.091 should be stable enough not to destroy your editor | |
| 00:14 | waxhead | submersible, did you add any protection with the run in other editor? |
| 00:15 | kthakore | submersible: ok |
| 00:15 | submersible | yes - i renamed the handler to 'sub NOT_accept_runme ' |
| 00:15 | kthakore | submersible: enjoy hard game |
| 00:15 | submersible | kthakore: still dep chasing |
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| 00:16 | kthakore | ah ok |
| 00:17 | waxhead | oh.. so that's how you do the Build stuff? |
| 00:17 | teejay joined #padre | |
| 00:17 | waxhead | I had to do it the other day to sort out some failed module installs but hasn't hit a module that uses Build.PL |
| 00:18 | I'm thinking of documenting a Padre install through CPAN alone... since I don't have it installed yet with the hdd upgrade.. | |
| 00:22 | kthakore | waxhead: you are not asking me are you? |
| 00:24 | waxhead | kthakore, nope.. just rambling.. :) |
| 00:27 | kthakore | waxhead: good |
| 00:28 | Sewi | kthakore: Long long searching but fixed. |
| 00:28 | We had two tests which even tested that bug :-) | |
| 00:28 | kthakore | oh nice! |
| 00:28 | submersible | kthakore: missing Physics::Particles |
| 00:28 | kthakore | Sewi: thanks thanks thanks thanks |
| 00:28 | Sewi | They failed after it was fixed :-) |
| 00:28 | kthakore | submersible: it is on cpan |
| 00:28 | Sewi: heheh | |
| 00:29 | Sewi: that means they are working | |
| 00:29 | in REVERSE LAND! | |
| 00:29 | Sewi | kthakore: So it wasn't a bug - we're all just living on the wrong side of the mirror :-) |
| 00:30 | * Sewi | going to sleep |
| 00:30 | kthakore | Sewi: nice |
| 00:30 | submersible | kthakore: very cool |
| 00:30 | Sewi | Good morning Asia & Australia, good night Europe :-) |
| 00:30 | submersible | that's sort of what I imagined the swarm-verse plot might look like |
| 00:31 | users / services/ resources orbiting each other | |
| 00:32 | kthakore | submersible: oh nice |
| 00:32 | submersible: except don't use Physics::Particles | |
| 00:32 | way to slow after 5 particles on a old enoguh computer | |
| 00:32 | submersible: it O(n^3) | |
| 00:33 | submersible: also click the balls to win | |
| 00:34 | submersible | i believe Physics::Particles tries to be 'correct' |
| 00:35 | kthakore | yeah |
| 00:35 | it does | |
| 00:36 | and it loops through the particles wierd | |
| 00:36 | foreach galore land | |
| 00:36 | I am thinking for looking for main areas in profiler | |
| 00:36 | by nytprof won't tell me what is slow in that modules | |
| 00:36 | module | |
| 00:37 | that whole module can be easily made XS | |
| 00:38 | LeK | bye |
| 00:38 | kthakore | LeK: bye |
| 00:39 | submersible: is there a swarm server or what ever to test this with? | |
| 00:41 | submersible | yeah -swarm.perlide.org is hard coded in right now |
| 00:43 | i just kicked the server since it was dead again | |
| 00:44 | bbl | |
| 00:47 | kthakore | ok |
| 00:49 | submersible: Padre::Plugin::Swarm - Crashed while loading: Can't locate Padre/Service/Swarm.pm | |
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| 02:42 | submersible | kthakore: oops - sry that one was killed off in the refactor.. |
| 02:42 | damn - yet another release to rollout | |
| 02:46 | Hyppolit | svn: r10754 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10754 |
| 02:46 | remove references to the old Padre/Service/Swarm.pm backend | |
| 02:46 | adjust changes | |
| 02:46 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/ | |
| 02:48 | svn: r10755 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10755 | |
| 02:48 | roll version to 0.092 | |
| 02:48 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Global/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Local/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Local/Multicast/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/Resources/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plug | |
| 03:21 | kthakore | ok |
| 03:24 | submersible: what is sdlgame.pl ???? | |
| 03:25 | I am interested already! | |
| 03:25 | heheh | |
| 03:25 | it works neat | |
| 03:25 | ok gtg | |
| 03:54 | submersible: what happened? | |
| 04:08 | submersible | kthakore: I think the wxsocket reader + json incremental parser is incorrect |
| 04:10 | kthakore | submersible: huh? |
| 04:10 | submersible: how do I open your files? | |
| 04:27 | Hyppolit | svn: r10756 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10756 |
| 04:27 | make the incremental json parsing less broken when reading from wxsocket | |
| 04:27 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Global/ | |
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| 04:33 | kthakore | wtf! |
| 04:35 | submersible joined #padre | |
| 04:42 | Hyppolit | svn: r10757 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10757 |
| 04:42 | stop openme messages from opening in all editors - i think | |
| 04:42 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/ | |
| 04:46 | svn: r10758 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10758 | |
| 04:46 | address responses to 'gimme' to the requestor .. so as not to open documents in ALL swarm editors (oops) | |
| 04:46 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/ | |
| 05:26 | svn: r10759 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10759 | |
| 05:26 | add tab completion of nicknames to chat kthakore++ | |
| 05:26 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/ | |
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| 05:56 | waxhead | wow.. internode also mirror cpan! |
| 05:59 | should I run cpan as root or as a normal user? | |
| 06:14 | Alias_ | Lots of people mirror cpan |
| 06:24 | Hyppolit | svn: r10760 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10760 |
| 06:24 | fixed width for chat output | |
| 06:24 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/ | |
| 06:25 | SvenDowideit joined #padre | |
| 06:25 | * submersible | ponders releasing yet-another swarm version to cpan... maybe 4 hours after the last one is too soon |
| 06:29 | danlucraft joined #padre | |
| 06:30 | Hyppolit | svn: r10761 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10761 |
| 06:30 | remove another reference to dead package | |
| 06:30 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/t/ | |
| 06:31 | azawawi joined #padre | |
| 06:31 | Hyppolit | svn: r10762 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10762 |
| 06:31 | add more compile tests for new(er) packages | |
| 06:31 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/t/ | |
| 06:31 | azawawi | gm plz :) |
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| 06:33 | waxhead | morning azawawi |
| 06:35 | submersible | Alias_: swarm on trunk has JSON::XS deps removed and should also properly colourize chat on win32 - if you get a chance this weekend pls test. |
| 06:36 | azawawi | which reminds me to finish edit server support for chrome today :) |
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| 06:40 | submersible | azawawi: are you using the single instance method to talk to the editor? |
| 06:43 | azawawi | submersible: as a plugin... |
| 06:45 | submersible: basically the code in http://opencoder.net/edit-server | |
| 06:45 | submersible: multi-threading socket http... | |
| 07:25 | szabgab: ping | |
| 07:27 | szabgab: plz take a look at "Introduction to Parrot - live from Portland Perl Mongers Meeting" | |
| 07:27 | szabgab: video http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/4630503 | |
| 07:28 | szabgab: slides http://docs.google.com/present[…]k89d5g_193ngx26cw | |
| 07:29 | szabgab: i think you can use google docs for online slides... | |
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| 07:57 | waxhead | anyone a cpan guru? |
| 07:58 | when a module fails to install you can "look" into the dist... | |
| 07:58 | once you make and make install do you need rid of anything or will cpan clean itself up? | |
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| 08:02 | azawawi | waxhead: hi.. what are you trying to do? |
| 08:03 | waxhead | azawawi, install Padre from scratch on a clean system.. |
| 08:03 | azawawi | waxhead: win or *nix? |
| 08:03 | waxhead | I just finished installing Wx and Alien::wxWidgets and had to "look" to finish it off... |
| 08:03 | *nix | |
| 08:03 | azawawi | waxhead: sudo cpan Padre ? |
| 08:03 | waxhead | I'm documenting it.. sort of... |
| 08:04 | azawawi | waxhead: ah , i see |
| 08:04 | waxhead | nope.. I knew it needed Wx,s o installed that first.. |
| 08:04 | azawawi | waxhead: so Padre fails the first time right because of Wx and A:W? |
| 08:05 | waxhead | azawawi, it's a chance to have some "deeper" level of "cpan shell use" too.. |
| 08:05 | azawawi | waxhead: cpan has a build folder which is cleans when it gets above xx MB |
| 08:05 | waxhead | azawawi, not really sure about what Padre fails on first... |
| 08:05 | azawawi | waxhead: any output that i can look at? |
| 08:06 | waxhead | azawawi, ok.. then it's fine to look and build and then ignore when make install works? |
| 08:06 | azawawi | let me see |
| 08:06 | waxhead: yeah | |
| 08:06 | waxhead | azawawi, thanks.. just checking is all... |
| 08:06 | azawawi | waxhead: if it installs, then you can continue |
| 08:06 | waxhead | it's going into the blog... |
| 08:07 | azawawi | waxhead: but not forcing it ofcourse... right? |
| 08:07 | waxhead | will point to it when I get to the end.. |
| 08:07 | it's very informal and lose in language... but it's to show Padre being installed through cpan and what you can do to get it completed... | |
| 08:07 | azawawi, no forcing being done at all | |
| 08:08 | azawawi | cool |
| 08:08 | waxhead | it must install 'cleanly', which should be a matter of meetting dependancies |
| 08:08 | * azawawi | goes back to listeninig to "Introduction to Parrot (Portland)" |
| 08:08 | waxhead | no pics either... all text so far |
| 08:08 | * waxhead | will too when I restart the browser... |
| 08:08 | waxhead | but need it open until after the padre install |
| 08:18 | wow.. it's done! | |
| 08:18 | that wasn't so hard! | |
| 08:19 | * azawawi | checks out parrot :) |
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| 08:48 | waxhead | installed... |
| 08:48 | don't know what the fuss is about.. | |
| 09:20 | Hyppolit | svn: r10763 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10763 |
| 09:20 | update changes | |
| 09:20 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ | |
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| 09:27 | mmanso | Hi there... |
| 09:28 | I've been planning a new desktop application and I thought I should stay away from Perl until I saw Padre... | |
| 09:28 | waxhead | mmanso, surprised? :) |
| 09:28 | mmanso | I beliave it uses the Wx library for the UI, right? |
| 09:28 | waxhead | correct |
| 09:28 | wxPerl | |
| 09:28 | mmanso | Not surprised... Perl was, and it is, my language of choice :) |
| 09:29 | How do you guys design the UI? all code based? I've been playing around (for fun) with projects like Flex, Lazarus, even VB.NET and one of the great things I see on them is the easiness on designing the UI. | |
| 09:29 | waxhead | mmanso, thought you might have figured Perl and GUI was too slow.. |
| 09:30 | mmanso | wxGlade os wxWidgets are the only solutions for that, right? |
| 09:30 | waxhead | mmanso, I'd say much of the early work was coded "by hand"... |
| 09:30 | azawawi still does... | |
| 09:30 | but there is another way... | |
| 09:30 | mmanso | I always thought that being based on Moose could cause some of that "slowness"... I might be wrong. |
| 09:30 | which one? | |
| 09:31 | Btw, the project I'm planning to work on is a POS (Point of Sale). | |
| 09:33 | submersible | mmanso: I dont think you'll find any moose in padre |
| 09:33 | mmanso | I thought it was used... any generic oppinion about the slowness? :) |
| 09:34 | waxhead | mmanso, check this out.. Alias does a lot of Padre code.. he wrote up a blog on what he does with wxGlade: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/39642 |
| 09:34 | mmanso, slowness of what? | |
| 09:34 | azawawi | submersible: i wonder why :) |
| 09:34 | waxhead | moose or Padre? |
| 09:35 | mmanso | waxhead refered that Padre and GUI was too slow, I was trying to figure out why. |
| 09:35 | waxhead | no.. the misconception that perl and GUI is slow... |
| 09:35 | not that Padre is slow.. | |
| 09:35 | it's not... | |
| 09:35 | which surprises some.. | |
| 09:35 | mmanso | Ah! |
| 09:36 | Sorry, my english cought me :) | |
| 09:36 | Beliaving in that concept made me think and decide that the way to go for me should be Perl | |
| 09:36 | 1) I need multi-plaform | |
| 09:36 | 2) I know the language for many years now | |
| 09:36 | 3) I've other projects and a team member who also does | |
| 09:37 | so, it makes sense (I guess) :) | |
| 09:37 | azawawi | mmanso: wx+perl is cool. The thing is that you have to depend on the wxwidgets C++ documentation which is sometimes not correct for wxperl. |
| 09:37 | mmanso: some methods are documented in C++ but then you wont find it in wxperl | |
| 09:38 | waxhead | but I think it gets better a more work is done on Wx |
| 09:38 | * waxhead | is nearly back with Padre and trunk! |
| 09:38 | mmanso | Two years ago I've worked on a small desktop app in wxPerl and I remember, at that time, I had to rely on wxPython docs in order to find more info on the wxPerl side... is that still in the same stage? |
| 09:39 | azawawi | mmanso: yeah i think there was an effort to fix that but i do not see any docs till now |
| 09:39 | submersible | mmanso: the moose compile time hit can be pretty brutal. it's runtime performance has improved vastly over time |
| 09:40 | mmanso | submersible: yes, I beliave on that because I've been following blogs and such... I neve had a change to start a new project yet but, when I does, I'll use it. |
| 09:40 | azawawi | mmanso: i had a TODO to add wxwidgets indexing to Padre's F2 search... i started by writing a small wxwidget html indexer and then i discovered that the original source was latex. |
| 09:41 | mmanso | don't know if this is right one though... this is because in the POS industry you get a lot of old machines and you should stay as "light" as possible. |
| 09:41 | waxhead | mmanso, I do the same regarding the wxpython docs... |
| 09:42 | mmanso | wachead: they're more complete, for sure... I saw somewhere a finance being approved for someone to improve wxperl docs... never heard nothing about that issue again, though |
| 09:43 | azawawi | submersible: wxwidgets release cycle is ssooooo slow |
| 09:43 | waxhead | well if nothing else, Mattia is still doing Wx releases.... so that's a good thing.. I guess |
| 09:44 | mmanso | By now they've all those common controls that an application requires, right? They work of bugfixes and stuff like that? |
| 09:44 | azawawi | mmanso: cpan Wx::Demo |
| 09:45 | mmanso: and then wxperl_demo | |
| 09:46 | mmanso | Thinking on the IDE side of things, I actually thought on Lazarus... It's opensource, runs multiplaform (you can even create apps for mobile) and it has a great IDE. |
| 09:47 | Problem is that I don't have anyone on our team (including myself) to support something like that... I think overtime will be a problem for me, even if I get someone to work with it. | |
| 09:49 | We're a small company with 5 people. 2 in Support, two 9+ years experience in Perl (one of them is mysel) and just hired a new guy that will need to learn Perl also. So, in this scenario, if I do it in lazarus and the guy leaves, I'll have a problem in hands. | |
| 09:49 | And based on all that, I'm trying to convince myself of let go the "IDE" issue and go for it with Perl :) | |
| 09:50 | waxhead | well padre runs on windows and linux fine.. |
| 09:51 | not sure about mac os though | |
| 09:51 | mmanso | mac isn't an issue for me... never saw a mac being used as a POS :) |
| 09:51 | waxhead | guess not... |
| 09:51 | never know though | |
| 09:51 | what OS are you targeting ? | |
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| 09:53 | mmanso | linux and win32 |
| 09:53 | linux is getting popular on that business | |
| 09:53 | but basically those are the two targets | |
| 09:55 | well, need to run... Thanks a lot for the help. | |
| 09:55 | Perl will be the way to go :) | |
| 09:55 | waxhead | mmanso, no worries.. good luck with the project |
| 09:55 | mmanso, and use Padre... | |
| 09:55 | mmanso | Ok, thanks again |
| 09:55 | waxhead | mmanso, there's a plugin adam did that works with the wxGlade output |
| 09:55 | mmanso | for Padre? |
| 09:56 | waxhead | yep.. |
| 09:56 | mmanso | know the name? |
| 09:56 | waxhead | I haven't tried it.. and it's not cpan ready, but if we get enough people using it he'll work on it a bit... maybe.. :) |
| 09:56 | mmanso, it's in the svn repo.. | |
| 09:56 | hang on a tic... | |
| 09:56 | mmanso | thanks! |
| 09:56 | waxhead | url for svn: http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/ |
| 09:57 | mmanso, http://svn.perlide.org/padre/t[…]e-Plugin-wxGlade/ | |
| 09:57 | so you'd have to use trunk I think.. but then you run the dev.pl -a which will use all plugins.... | |
| 09:57 | at least that's how I use it at the moment... | |
| 09:58 | Hyppolit | svn: r10764 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10764 |
| 09:58 | Added a dummy "Open In Command Line" menu item | |
| 09:58 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ | |
| 09:58 | waxhead | woo hoo... I'm back!! 0.56 and now trunk... |
| 10:16 | Hyppolit | svn: r10765 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10765 |
| 10:16 | Updated POD and the "Open In Command Line" is now working under win32 | |
| 10:16 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Util/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ | |
| 10:20 | svn: r10766 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10766 | |
| 10:20 | Updated Changes | |
| 10:20 | trunk/Padre/ | |
| 10:22 | svn: r10767 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10767 | |
| 10:22 | Perl tidy (5 files) | |
| 10:22 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Util/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/t/ | |
| 10:32 | svn: r10768 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10768 | |
| 10:32 | Fixed previous function refactoring name typo (for *nix) | |
| 10:32 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Util/ | |
| 10:52 | azawawi | Sewi: ping |
| 10:53 | any idea how to open a new command line from Padre using gnome/kde ? | |
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| 10:56 | Hyppolit | svn: r10769 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10769 |
| 10:56 | Added a TODO | |
| 10:56 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Util/ | |
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| 11:01 | Hyppolit | svn: r10770 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10770 |
| 11:01 | "Open in Command line" and "Open with system editor" are only implemented under win32. For unix implementation, please see Padre::Util::FileBrowser | |
| 11:01 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ | |
| 11:11 | svn: r10771 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10771 | |
| 11:11 | "Open in Command line" and "Open with system editor" are now showing as disabled as non-win32 until an implementation is written | |
| 11:11 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ | |
| 11:13 | svn: r10772 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10772 | |
| 11:13 | Perl tidy (1 file) | |
| 11:13 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ | |
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| 11:18 | submersible | hi tsee |
| 11:18 | tsee | heys |
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| 11:21 | submersible | tsee: I've been reading some of the suggestions regarding the DB handles leaking into slave threads.. |
| 11:21 | tsee | Annoying issue. |
| 11:22 | I'd try to "fix" it with copious amounts of locking. | |
| 11:22 | And shutting down the connections before thread spawns. | |
| 11:22 | Though we might actually be safe if we spawn from the slavedriver. | |
| 11:22 | submersible | annoying - however I wonder other than DESTROY what real chances there are of them having any methods called |
| 11:23 | tsee | I don't know. I know little about how we use the DBs in the code base. |
| 11:23 | But I could imagine that they get used transparently all over the place. | |
| 11:23 | submersible | surely this is the case. |
| 11:24 | tsee | Hah. One could nuke the DESTROY sub of the class in the sub-threads ;) |
| 11:24 | submersible | and it appears that there is a padre update lock wrapped around the whole slavedriver/taskmanager init |
| 11:25 | tsee | The slavedriver init should happen way before that. |
| 11:25 | Right after loading Wx. | |
| 11:25 | BEFORE loading Padre itself. | |
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| 11:25 | tsee | That's the whole reason it's in a separate module from the TaskManaer |
| 11:25 | Maybe I didn't get it right, though. | |
| 11:26 | submersible | I think the locking stuff was going on concurrently on trunk |
| 11:27 | OT: how many releases of a cpan module should be considered 'too many' for a 24hr period? | |
| 11:27 | tsee | Arbitrary. |
| 11:27 | Just make sure you occasionally clean out the old releases via pause.perl.org -> Delete Files | |
| 11:28 | submersible | yes - I have been doing that w/ the (mostly) broken swarm releases |
| 11:28 | tsee | It may make sense to keep some, few old versions around if they're widely deployed or mark the end of sort of cycle. |
| 11:28 | But I mostly just keep the newest versions around. With some exceptions (PAR) | |
| 11:28 | Of course, you keep blowing up the backpan, but those who keep backpans do so at their own choice. | |
| 11:29 | submersible | did you see kthakore's latest SDL game? Uses Physics::Particles :) |
| 11:29 | tsee | He sent me an early version where they were just bouncing :) |
| 11:29 | Physics::Particles is, unfortunately, extremely slow. | |
| 11:29 | submersible | now they perturb each other |
| 11:29 | tsee | Cool. |
| 11:29 | submersible | it's maddening! |
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| 12:03 | Sewi | hi |
| 12:04 | Hyppolit | svn: r10773 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10773 |
| 12:04 | use a timer to push ' ' out the socket .. YUK! application layer keepalive | |
| 12:04 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Global/ | |
| 12:04 | submersible | hi Sewi |
| 12:08 | Hyppolit | svn: r10774 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10774 |
| 12:08 | roll version - for it seems like the millionth time this weekend | |
| 12:08 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Global/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Local/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Local/Multicast/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/Resources/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plug | |
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| 12:15 | Hyppolit | svn: r10775 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10775 |
| 12:15 | more pod | |
| 12:15 | trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/ | |
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| 17:02 | kthakore | submersible: tab support on tab doesn't seem to work |
| 17:03 | but I am the only one in it now | |
| 17:15 | Getty | watching the video where facebook presents php-hiphop is really amazing... it makes me laugh all day ;) |
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| 17:29 | azawawi | good evening |
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| 18:39 | Hyppolit | svn: r10776 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10776 |
| 18:39 | Replaced _T() with Wx::gettext() in debugger. It does not do anything useful :) | |
| 18:39 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ | |
| 18:43 | svn: r10777 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10777 | |
| 18:43 | Renamed Padre::Action::Debugger to Padre::Action::Debug (for consistency with the menu name) | |
| 18:43 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ | |
| 18:52 | svn: r10778 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10778 | |
| 18:52 | Move font size down with the other sub menus in the View menu | |
| 18:52 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ | |
| 19:08 | svn: r10779 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10779 | |
| 19:08 | Fix a minor right-click bug with menu separators when code folding is enabled | |
| 19:08 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ | |
| 19:14 | azawawi | Alias_: ping |
| 19:20 | Alias_: i smell something wrong with using _CURRENT in all menu except search refresh... Use nothing mode (startup_files=nothing) and open Padre and watch how all menus are disabled correctly except for "Search" which uses Padre::Current->editor | |
| 19:20 | s/all menu/all menus/ | |
| 19:20 | Alias_: oops i got it wrong again :) | |
| 19:21 | Alias_: s/correctly/incorrectly | |
| 19:21 | Alias_: must sleep now :) | |
| 19:21 | * azawawi | good night & |
| 19:52 | Hyppolit | svn: r10780 | kthakore++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10780 |
| 19:52 | Another object bug | |
| 19:52 | trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ | |
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| 22:05 | kthakore_ | hi szabgab |
| 22:05 | kthakore | szabgab: I saw you ninja hands in the fosdem picture |
| 22:06 | szabgab | kthakore, I am not really here |
| 22:06 | kthakore | szabgab: heheh sure |
| 22:06 | szabgab: I don't see you | |
| 22:07 | Sewi | Hi kthakore |
| 22:07 | kthakore | hi Sewi |
| 22:08 | Sewi | You're seeing his IRC tracks only :-) |
| 22:08 | kthakore | szabgab: hehe |
| 22:08 | Sewi: oh I found another hisen bug in padre | |
| 22:09 | szabgab | I have so much to do with various things that I hardly have time for any coding nowdays |
| 22:09 | I am trying to learn a bit CSS | |
| 22:09 | kthakore | szabgab: you need a hug |
| 22:09 | * kthakore | hugs szabgab |
| 22:09 | kthakore | szabgab: btw I have a game for you and the young ones |
| 22:10 | http://yapgh.blogspot.com/ | |
| 22:10 | the first post | |
| 22:10 | szabgab | cool |
| 22:10 | we need the games to be running on the demo machines on CeBIT 2 weeks from now | |
| 22:10 | kthakore | awesome |
| 22:10 | you will have it | |
| 22:11 | I can make binaries now | |
| 22:11 | szabgab: I will send you a couple for Tetris, Shooter, and Frozen Bubble | |
| 22:11 | k? | |
| 22:11 | what computer do you guys have there? | |
| 22:13 | szabgab | no idea |
| 22:13 | kthakore | szabgab: is it on 20th or 27th? |
| 22:13 | szabgab | I'll want to install those on my machine first |
| 22:14 | 2-7/march | |
| 22:14 | kthakore | ok |
| 22:14 | 27th I have it scheduled in | |
| 22:14 | a game pack for events | |
| 22:14 | Sewi | cool |
| 22:15 | I guess we'll have PCs there and some of us might bring their laptops their | |
| 22:15 | there | |
| 22:15 | kthakore | Sewi: ok linux and windows seems a safe bet then right? |
| 22:15 | with 32 bit perl par files as binaries? | |
| 22:16 | Sewi | kthakore: I don't know. |
| 22:16 | * Sewi | adds some linux live DVDs to his bring-to-cebit-list |
| 22:16 | kthakore | nice |
| 22:16 | I gtg I will talk to you guys later | |
| 22:16 | szabgab | Sewi, I think Renee is organizing printing some DVDs |
| 22:17 | Sewi | szabgab: I meant DVDs for us as a emergency backup if some preinstalled things fail. |
| 22:18 | szabgab | ic |
| 22:18 | Sewi | szabgab: Better having some ubuntu live DVD laying around unused than needing them :-) |
| 22:18 | szabgab | btw have you managed to find any place for me to stay ? |
| 22:18 | I mean BB | |
| 22:18 | or hotel | |
| 22:18 | Sewi | I wrote you the three options left. |
| 22:19 | It's a little bit late for CeBit to get things :-( | |
| 22:19 | szabgab | in the IRC you mean? |
| 22:19 | Sewi | yes |
| 22:19 | szabgab | ok, tomorrow I'll check my flight options |
| 22:19 | and then the places to stay | |
| 22:19 | Sewi | ok |
| 22:20 | Tell me your flight number and I'll pick you up at the airport. | |
| 22:20 | szabgab | it is quite a lot of money both flight and hotel and I don't see any income from these yet |
| 22:20 | otoh I'd like to use the rest of my time and energy there to hack on padre or on some other stuff | |
| 22:22 | Sewi | You're coming from Tel Aviv? |
| 22:24 | szabgab | near by |
| 22:26 | Sewi | I meant the airport :-) |
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| 22:26 | bennyBoy | hi all |
| 22:27 | szabgab | Sewi, that too is near by :-) |
| 22:27 | hi bennyBoy | |
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| 22:28 | kthakore | Sewi: so I should send this to you? |
| 22:29 | Sewi | kthakore: Put it somewhere online, I'll take default ubuntu |
| 22:29 | kthakore | kk |
| 22:30 | tsee | Cebit is in Hannover, right? |
| 22:30 | Sewi | yes |
| 22:30 | tsee | Been a long time since I went there. 1995 or so. |
| 22:31 | szabgab | tsee, it is a long way from you, right? |
| 22:31 | tsee | Yep. |
| 22:31 | szabgab | kthakore, make a release of it |
| 22:31 | tsee | Well, with an ICE, it's reasonably quick. |
| 22:31 | szabgab | so I we can install in some standardish way |
| 22:31 | tsee | But quite expensive and impossible to do for just one day. |
| 22:32 | szabgab, excuse me for not reading the whole backlog: are you going for sure? | |
| 22:32 | szabgab | almost sure |
| 22:32 | though I just had some second thoughts | |
| 22:32 | Sewi | tsee: Where are you from? |
| 22:33 | tsee | I was born in Hannover! |
| 22:33 | But I live in Karlsruhe. | |
| 22:34 | Sewi | Come back home :-) |
| 22:35 | szabgab | tsee, maybe you have some perl friends where I could stay in exchange for some late night perl hacking? |
| 22:35 | tsee | Nope, sorry. |
| 22:35 | szabgab | :-( |
| 22:36 | tsee | I have very few German Perl connections... |
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| 22:51 | bennyBoy | guys I'm trying to import the svn reposistory, but it prompts me for logging, what I'm supposed to use ? FYI: i'm using tortoise on windows |
| 22:59 | kthakore | oh tsee !!! |
| 22:59 | tsee: I was looking for you | |
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| 23:29 | kthakore | tsee: hi |
| 23:29 | tsee: do you have some time? |
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