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01:02 kthakore damn it who messed with the topic?
01:02 kthakore Hyppolit: trac?
01:02 kthakore trac?
01:02 Hyppolit trac is http://padre.perlide.org/trac and also http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register
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01:07 Hyppolit #850: Padre crashes on warning output (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/850 ]
04:35 CSJewell kthakore: A netsplit messed w/ the topic.
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06:22 szabgab http://www.mail-archive.com/bost​on-pm@mail.pm.org/msg05866.html
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06:30 Sewi gm
06:30 szabgab gm
06:34 szabgab Alias, unfortunately there is already something called vimacs
06:41 Sewi szabgab: You might want to give a talk on Perl/Padre on CeBit 2011. Don't know if they pay for talks, but it might be.
06:42 szabgab first let's see how this CeBit works out and how can I turn all this into some income
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07:07 szabgab pls comment on these http://bit.ly/bBM9Lq http://bit.ly/a5SZKY
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07:28 Sewi request done :-)
07:45 Hyppolit svn: r10793 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10793
07:45 Hyppolit link to blogs of Gabor
07:45 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
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07:55 szabgab Sewi, I actuallty thought that you will just comment here in IRC telling me about typos and so, but this is good too :-)
07:56 Sewi Oh sorry :-)
07:57 Sewi Opera has a spell-checker on input boxes- good against typos :-)
08:07 szabgab I am writing the blogs in Padre and the spell checker was crashing last time I checked
08:07 szabgab and I think noone touched it since
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08:27 azawawi good morning... :)
08:27 Sewi hi
08:27 Alias_ \o
08:28 * Alias_ thinks he has broken Padre
08:28 Alias_ Changing open file tabs takes forever now
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08:45 Alias_ Whoever wrote the multi-file reload detector thingy, it's being REALLY annoying (and not working)
08:45 Sewi Alias: current svn?
08:58 Alias_ yeah
08:58 Alias_ Let me update the last half a day though
09:03 Sewi It should check the current active file only and replace the old yes/no popup
09:03 Alias_ It's checking all files and popping up a "reload some" dialog
09:04 Alias_ That makes me select from 10 or so files
09:04 Alias_ None of which it actually reloads
09:04 Alias_ Then it pops it up again 10 seconds later
09:04 Alias_ And so on
09:04 Sewi will check
09:12 Alias_ Yes, my problem is in current trunk
09:12 Sewi thanks
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09:17 Alias_ Hrm... I think I've backed myself into a bit of a corner with Padre::Config
09:18 Alias_ Because I can't think of a way to jam keybindings elegantly into that model
09:19 Alias_ Mozilla doesn't have any kind of keybinding support in it's config
09:19 Sewi Alias_: Key bindings should reside in padre.yml instead of the db.
09:19 Alias_ I know
09:19 Alias_ And thus, how do you represent them?
09:20 Alias_ The basic structure is fairly easy, it's a key -> action hash
09:20 Sewi I don't want to add 100s config options, so it might end up in one string "action.subaction=key:"
09:20 Alias_ Where the hash represents deviation from the default
09:20 Sewi (Or something like this)
09:20 Sewi Sure, defaults shouldn't be saved
09:23 Alias_ The Mozilla one does have all kinds of semi-generated stuff in it
09:24 Alias_ Lists, tables...
09:24 Alias_ It even allows user-defined config entries
09:26 Alias_ And my firebug preferences show a list of key bindings
09:27 Alias_ I wonder how long our current config setup takes to run
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10:27 szabgab FOSDEM Perl stand: http://bit.ly/dpVtnt
10:35 Alias_ According to NYTProf on my machine, building all the settings costs about 30-40ms
10:36 Alias_ So we could tolerate another couple of hundreds settings fairly easily
10:36 Sewi You're voting for adding each action's keybinding as a new config option?
10:36 Alias_ I'm tempted
10:37 Alias_ It would solve the different-default-keybindings-on-different-os problem
10:38 Sewi sure, but what about combining them to one option?
10:38 Alias_ It would make the implementation a lot more complex
10:39 Hyppolit svn: r10794 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10794
10:39 Hyppolit Removed extra whitespace from About page
10:39 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
10:39 Sewi A little bit
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10:45 Sewi Alias: You did Parse::CSV?
10:45 Alias_ I did
10:46 Sewi Any reason why you force me to write my in-memory data to a file to give it to Parse::CSV?
10:46 Alias_ I do what to force you to what now?
10:46 Sewi :-)
10:47 Sewi Parse::CSV requires a filename or filehandle. But I just downloaded the data via LWP and don't want to write them to disk just for parsing.
10:48 Alias_ Then use an IO::String or IO::Scalar or something
10:48 Sewi It's few, maybe some kB. Would you accept a patch for a "content" argument to ->new?
10:48 Sewi thanks for pointing me at this.
10:50 Alias_ It uses Text::CSV_XS under the covers
10:50 Alias_ So hopefully the IO::whatever supports it
10:50 Sewi I saw that module and decided to prefer an existing wrapper :-)
10:51 Alias_ That's why I wrote Parse::CSV :)
10:51 Alias_ For some reason, everyone that writes CSV modules doesn't understand API design
10:51 Sewi yes :-(
10:52 Sewi Just submitted some changes to the Class::CSV author
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10:54 Sno| hi all :)
10:54 Sewi hi Sno|
10:55 Sno| I have a supported platform more for Padre - NetBSD/pkgsrc
10:55 Alias_ Does it build properly?
10:55 Sno| it means, it now can be used under most pkgsrc supported OS from now
10:55 Sno| build, test and run
10:56 Sno| and also bulk-builds on different platforms succeed meanwhile
10:58 szabgab Sno|, great, thanks
10:59 szabgab we need to put this information on the download page
10:59 Sno| at the end of the quarter there will be download-packages available, too
11:00 Sno| 2010Q1 - end of March / start of April ...
11:00 szabgab As I have no clue how the *BSDs work, could you add this info to our wiki?
11:00 szabgab http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download
11:05 Sno| I have to register ^^
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11:06 * szabgab opening registration
11:06 szabgab tac?
11:06 szabgab trac?
11:06 Hyppolit trac is http://padre.perlide.org/trac and also http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register
11:06 szabgab pls register now
11:08 Sno| registered and logged in
11:09 Sno| do I need special permissions to edit the Download page in the Wiki?
11:11 szabgab nope
11:11 szabgab one registered you have all the power on trac
11:11 szabgab one/once
11:13 Hyppolit svn: r10795 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10795
11:13 Hyppolit Fixed the WindowList (close some, reload some): Use the correct item order
11:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
11:14 Sewi Alias: Thanks for Parse::CSV! And that last commit is the fix for your reload problem.
11:25 Alias_ Great
11:25 Alias_ Wait, the Menu::Window one? or the reload some on file change one?
11:25 Sewi I though Wx InsertItem would append the new item to the list for some reason. But it inserts it at the first position.
11:26 Sewi Padre:Wx:Dialog:WindowList is the dialog for Close_some and Reload_some and Reload_some is what it called on changed files.
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11:29 Sno| szabgab: is it ok this way (Download changes for NetBSD/pkgsrc)
11:30 szabgab for me it is ok, the question will be if it works for others as well ?
11:30 szabgab Maybe you blog about it ?
11:30 szabgab and/or announce it on various channels?
11:33 Sno| pkgsrc users usually request help on pkgsrc-users@NetBSD.org
11:34 Sno| announces are quarterly in the releases of pkgsrc - in 2010Q1 the Padre support will be announced
11:35 szabgab we (as in Padre developers) like to brag about our friends packaging Padre in various distributions so people will be encouraged to try it
11:36 Sewi We should add a wiki page or download page section containing all the distributions where padre is packed and the package maintainers.
11:37 szabgab yes, I think we have part of that information on the wiki somewhere
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11:45 Sno| As long people don't care to use a "source based" distribution, they can use Padre now on 11 OS
11:46 Sewi szabgab: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download#Binary but it lacks maintainer info for most dists and doesn't include archlinux which was reported to have dependency problems.
11:46 Sno| I just talked with some pkgsrc core guys - binaries are available at least for NetBSD (and sometimes Darwin) only
11:55 Hyppolit svn: r10796 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10796
11:55 Hyppolit Shuffling around the order of the file so all the settings are declare collectively at the end
11:55 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
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12:09 Sewi Alias: Are you working on the key bindings? Otherwise I'd start to do it later today...
12:15 szabgab Sewi, Sno| could please try to update the Download page with the info of the maintainers?
12:16 szabgab see also http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Distribution
12:20 Sewi ping garu
12:21 Sno|Laptop szabgab: http://pkgsrc.se/editors/p5-Padre - Maintainers are all committers - defacto most updates will be done by me or any other member of pkgsrc-p5-people@NetBSD.org
12:22 Sno|Laptop but any issue with the package should be either reported to pkgsrc-users@ or by filing a PR
12:22 Sewi Sno|Laptop: Do you want to add yourself as the maintainer. I think we're talking of "the person who did the package and will do new packages" as the maintainer.
12:22 szabgab can you please update wiki with this info,
12:22 Sno|Laptop I don't want to be "spammed" with requests pkgsrc-users@ could better handle
12:22 szabgab we would like to have a contact person or know where the group lives
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12:23 Sno|Laptop that's why I prefer pkgsrc-users@ as the better mail-address for the maintainer
12:23 szabgab I guess we rarely spam the packagers
12:23 szabgab we just buy them beer so they stick around
12:23 Sno|Laptop not the spam I mean - the spam I mean is "how do I ..." - and that's commonly questions answered in pkgsrc guide
12:24 Sno|Laptop because I'm working off-site 80% of the year, I cannot handle those mails
12:24 garu Sewi, pong
12:25 Sno|Laptop szabgab: I will add something - and then you can tell me if it satisfy your desires :)
12:25 Sewi There is a project on Github attempting to create a Shipwright package... Ask garu on IRC for the current situation
12:26 * Sewi asks garu
12:26 garu heh
12:26 Sewi :-)
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12:26 Sewi Hi ecocode
12:28 garu Sewi, szabgab asked about it so we started the attempt. But ever since we got the stand-alone padre for linux, I deleted it from my github account
12:29 Sewi thanks
12:30 garu it failed to bundle some modules, and we worked together with bestpractical team to have them fixed, but in the end I never had the time to give it the attention it needed
12:30 szabgab Sewi, I still have it I think but probably we don't need it
12:30 garu yup. agreed.
12:30 ecocode Sewi: ehlo
12:30 szabgab oh I think we actually managed to package everything
12:30 garu Sewi, if you feel like starting it over again, I have some notes that might help
12:30 szabgab just never tried to build it
12:30 Sewi szabgab: I was editing the distribution page and just wanted to update this, too
12:31 szabgab ok
12:31 szabgab then it is now discontinued
12:31 garu Sewi, ah, feel free to remove it altogether then. It was made obsolete the minute we had a Padre stand-alone release for linux
12:32 szabgab well not really or fully
12:32 szabgab as they have different solutions
12:32 szabgab but maybe yes
12:32 Sewi I changed the paragraph to a "there has been something".
12:33 garu szabgab, yeah, but until someone actually needs an alternative, I even think the packaged shipwright version was bigger than the current one
12:34 garu hmm.. though it would provide people with a multiplatform version, I think
12:34 garu being it compiles everything from scratch on each installation
12:34 garu (or so I think)
12:35 Sewi garu: We have a multiplattform distribution:CPAN :-)
12:38 garu Sewi++ # indeed :)
12:38 * Alias_ makes a start on getting the Padre::Wx::Menu::Window::refresh method to not be suckily slow
12:40 Sewi Distribution and Download wiki pages are pretty much the same thing. :-(
12:40 Alias_ Sewi: I don't have a good solution for key bindings that doesn't involve like 100 new config settings
12:40 Alias_ Sewi: So by all means you have a go
12:40 Sewi Thanks :)
12:41 Alias_ On the plug side, we could actually afford 100 config settings
12:41 Alias_ plus
12:41 Alias_ Would only cost us around another 50ms at startup
12:41 Alias_ And almost nothing after that
12:42 Alias_ It would be a bit on the big side, as far as code goes in Padre::Config, but it wouldn't be THAT slow
12:43 Alias_ And it would make a lot of interesting things possible
12:54 Hyppolit #508: make sure the ppm builder of ActiveState can handle Padre (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/508#comment:5 ]
12:56 Sno|Laptop <@Sewi> garu: We have a multiplattform distribution:CPAN :-) <-- and now pkgsrc, multiplatform with full dependency support :)
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13:12 garu Sno|Laptop++
13:14 Sewi Who did the debian and ubuntu packages?
13:15 Alias_ Ryan52
13:15 Alias_ Padre hacker and Debian packager
13:15 Sewi thanks
13:17 Sno|Laptop szabgab: the additional chapter in NetBSD/pkgsrc ok?
13:18 szabgab Sno|Laptop, let Sewi decide :-)
13:19 Sno|Laptop Sewi: the additional chapter in NetBSD/pkgsrc ok?
13:19 Sno|Laptop :)
13:21 Sewi Looks pretty good.
13:22 Sno|Laptop The request from garu is fully answered by pkgsrc - it builds all dependencies required, even auto-tools for gtk2 dependencies of Wx etc.
13:22 * Sno|Laptop makes some commercial for pkgsrc :D
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13:23 Sewi macos has pkgsrc support?
13:23 Sno|Laptop sure
13:23 Sno|Laptop supports only X11 - but works
13:24 Sno|Laptop supported platforms are most unix systems (and clones ^^), Windows via WSU (Interix) and MacOS X/Darwin (FreeBSD like userland)
13:25 Alias_ hrm
13:25 Alias_ http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/cul​ture/twitter-quitters-20100212-nww6.html
13:25 Alias_ Is it just me, or is Twitter gradually heading for a flameout
13:25 Sno|Laptop I can "borrow" the laptop from my girl-friend (Snow-Leopard) and try whether pkgsrc's Padre package is working there
13:27 Sewi Added crosslink http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download#OSX
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14:21 ecocode is this channel overwhelming the wxperl channel ?
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14:25 Sewi szabgab: They say they answered
14:44 Hyppolit #785: Installation problems on Ubuntu 9.10 and then a Crash after manual install (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/785#comment:1 ]
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15:12 Hyppolit svn: r10797 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10797
15:12 Hyppolit We don't need the ->ide
15:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
15:14 Hyppolit svn: r10798 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10798
15:14 Hyppolit Adding a far more efficient and accurate method for generating the "human" list of window names.
15:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
15:19 Alias_ There's a wxperl channel?
15:19 Alias_ Sewi: OK, so that's HALF of the Menu::Window speedup/rewrite done
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15:22 Alias_ Sewi: Open up a whole bunch of random stuff (new files, URLs, everything) and then call Padre::Current->notebook->labels;
15:22 Sewi Alias: Do you know if Wx would give us tabs in multiple rows instead of all-in-one-with-arrows?
15:22 szabgab Alias_, there is a wxchannel with 8 members, 5 of them are being bots
15:23 Alias_ ah
15:23 Alias_ For what it's worth, the Perl::Critic mailing list/community is FAR larger than the PPI one (which is nonexistant)
15:24 Alias_ People are always more attracted to things that have user interfaces
15:24 Sewi :-)
15:24 Alias_ You get creditted, sure
15:24 Alias_ Quite regularly
15:25 Alias_ But the people, they still hang out with the cool user interface kids
15:27 Alias_ (Which, of course, is why THIS time around I decided to be one of the cool kids) :)
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15:58 Hyppolit svn: r10799 | sblandin++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10799
15:58 Hyppolit Updated Padre Italian translation
15:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
16:05 szabgab ping Alias
16:08 szabgab Alias_, ping
16:13 Alias_ pong
16:53 Hyppolit #785: Installation problems on Ubuntu 9.10 and then a Crash after manual install (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/785#comment:2 ]
17:02 kthakore Sewi: hi I need help tracking down this bug ticket #850
17:02 Hyppolit #850: Padre crashes on warning output (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/850 ]
17:02 kthakore Sewi: I am so lost .... I don't understand any of this why is padre different then ./dev.pl?
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17:03 Sewi kthakore: You're number 3 on the queue :-) Before: 1. Finish the template editor, 2. Cook something for lunch :-)
17:03 kthakore nice!
17:03 kthakore ok thanks
17:19 Alias_ kthakore: Also, sometimes padre runs a previous system install, vs dev.pl reliably running trunk
17:19 Alias_ Also, if you are on Windows, padre.exe runs with different process context than dev.pl
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18:27 Sewi kthakore: Which OS? Problems still alivE?
18:29 Hyppolit #850: Padre crashes on warning output (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/850#comment:1 ]
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18:44 mateu how does one go up a directory using the directory tree view?
18:44 mateu clicking on folder with .. does nada
18:49 szabgab mateu, I think the first step is to file a bug report :-)
18:50 mateu i just did didn't I ;)
18:50 szabgab nope
18:50 szabgab trac?
18:50 Hyppolit trac is http://padre.perlide.org/trac and also http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register
18:50 szabgab register now as I opened it
18:50 szabgab and file a bug report there, please
18:53 Hyppolit #851: can't go to parent directory in directory view (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/851 ]
18:54 mateu can one single click to open files?
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18:58 szabgab mateu, I think it is now double click
18:58 szabgab in which application is it single click?
18:58 mateu i'm asking if it can be configured as one click instead of two
18:59 kthakore Sewi: how do I get the version that you asked for?
18:59 szabgab mateu, I don't think we have such option now
18:59 szabgab but I guess it can be implemented
19:01 mateu ok, thanks just wondering if it existed somewhere I wasn't looking
19:02 Hyppolit #850: Padre crashes on warning output (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/850#comment:2 ]
19:02 szabgab try ctrl-3 and then search
19:02 szabgab though I am not sure if the options are also included in that
19:02 szabgab probably they should be
19:06 Hyppolit #852: Add preference options to Quick Menu Access (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/852 ]
19:07 mateu hm, a way to search menu options, and ticket 852 is a good idea to make it more powerful
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19:11 LeK hi
19:11 LeK french translation of some menus really hurt my eyes... can you tell me where to look for lang resources?
19:14 mateu ce n'etait pas moi ;)
19:16 LeK héhé, "montrer la sortie" (mouahahahahahah!)
19:16 LeK "taillle de la fonte" (genre on fait de la musculation)
19:18 LeK ok, ok, i'll grep the source tree (i'm so laaaazy!)
19:22 LeK who's in charge of the french translation, there's some things i can correct without asking, but there's some other parts that could be discussed about...
19:23 LeK (don't worry for the lang resources though, i've found the wiki page on the subject)
19:30 marcela LeK: http://padre.perlide.org/translators.html#jq
19:34 LeK thanks
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19:37 user_8138 Padre. FTP. Remote saves. Working?
19:43 Sewi Hi user_8138
19:43 Sewi Yes, save should be working
19:43 Sewi translation?
19:43 Sewi wiki?
19:43 Sewi Sorry lek, please look at the wiki
19:43 Sewi http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki
19:43 Sewi There is a translation page
19:44 user_8138 Good, thx much.
19:50 kthakore Sewi: did you see my update?
19:54 user_8138 I'm not finding much there. Is there an FTP interface, or would I be using FTP full paths in a save dialog?
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20:04 Sewi user_8138: There is File -> Open URL and you could enter ftp://user:pass@ftp.server.com/path/file there
20:05 Sewi kthakore: You should look at that line and see what object is undefined and maybe add some prints to see what happens there.
20:06 user_8138 Will do. Thank you.
20:08 kthakore ok
20:20 LeK sewi, i had found the page, now i'm diving in the xgettext generated files structure
20:20 Sewi LeK: get "poedit"
20:21 Sewi It's much simpler than working with the text files
20:21 Hyppolit #852: Add preference options to Quick Menu Access (assigned enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/852#comment:1 ]
20:21 LeK it's not very clear which file to edit, even with the wiki :)
20:21 LeK i'm running windows at the moment
20:22 LeK (ok, cross platform :) )
20:22 Sewi http://www.poedit.net/download.php
20:22 LeK yes, i'm browsing this site
20:22 user_8138 Aha. I'm on Windows myself. I'll screw around and see what I can figure out.
20:23 Sewi There is a Padre/share/locale/fr.po (should be)
20:24 Sewi Next goto catalog and update from pot file.
20:24 LeK i have all the command line tools working,
20:24 Sewi It should use the messages.pot from the same dir where fr.po is located.
20:24 LeK so i thing that updating as it's said in the wiki   msgmerge -o <lng>.po.new <lng>.po messages.pot
20:25 LeK should be enough, then, all i have to do is edit <lng>.po.new, isn't it?
20:25 Sewi Don't know, tried this for half a minute some month ago before I switched to poedit.
20:25 Sewi It's much simpler :-)
20:26 LeK ok, i'm trying to install it right now , i'll let you know
20:31 LeK ok, i opened the fr-fr.po with poedit, but i'm not sure the fr-fr.po was updated with the newly generated messages.pot
20:33 Sewi No problem, click on the third menu option (should be catalog)
20:33 Sewi Then update from catalog(.pot)
20:34 Sewi Select the messages.pot (should be the only file shown) and you're done
20:34 LeK ok, i used it with messages.pot (generated as it is written on the wiki)
20:35 LeK 16 obsolete strings and 156 new, you think it's correct?
20:36 Sewi sounds possible.
20:36 LeK k
20:36 LeK than i commit the fr-fr.po?
20:36 Sewi yes
20:36 LeK k
20:37 Sewi Do you have commit bit?
20:37 LeK i have an account to create trac tickets, i thought it was the same account... in fact I never tried
20:42 szabgab LeK,  Sewi have you talked to jq?
20:42 szabgab about the fr translation?
20:42 LeK there are totally wrong sentance in brown, i think it's fuzzy translation... should I delete this sentances or let the funny translations? (will it still be identified as fuzzy translation after a new commit?)
20:42 LeK szabgab, no, not yet
20:43 szabgab I think better talk to him before making changes to the translation as it was mostly his work
20:43 LeK i've only corrected obviously wrong translation (less than 10), others are rather a question of style...
20:43 LeK i'll mail the new file to him instead of comitting it directly
20:44 Sewi szabgab: Sorry for leaving earlier.
20:44 szabgab Sewi, np,
20:49 szabgab Sewi, ??
20:50 Sewi szabgab: ??
20:50 szabgab see #events
21:54 kthakore szabgab: I saw your presentation on Padre!!!
21:54 kthakore nice!
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22:34 LeK i met strong stability problems with current trunk version :-/
22:36 kthakore LeK: are you having problem #850 ?
22:36 Hyppolit #850: Padre crashes on warning output (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/850#comment:2 ]
22:36 LeK yes
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22:36 kthakore Alias: LeK has same problem as #850
22:36 Hyppolit #850: Padre crashes on warning output (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/850#comment:2 ]
22:36 kthakore err
22:36 kthakore srry
22:36 LeK it ends with a sqlite problem blah blah :)
22:36 kthakore Sewi: same problem seen by Lek
22:36 kthakore LeK: yeah same here
22:37 kthakore Alias: what does this meanDBD::SQLite::db do failed: SQL logic error or missing database
22:37 kthakore cannot VACUUM from within a transaction at (eval 162) line 32.
22:37 LeK i'll add my logs to the ticket
22:37 kthakore LeK: thanks?
22:37 kthakore err
22:37 kthakore thanks
22:40 Hyppolit #850: Padre crashes on warning output (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/850#comment:3 ]
22:40 LeK done
22:40 LeK i also added some details about the ubuntu bug this afternoon
22:46 LeK wuold it be possible to add xml tree in outline view?
22:46 kthakore kk
22:47 kthakore dunno
22:47 LeK (in fact, my xml file kills padre... back to notepad++ :) )
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23:31 LeK bye

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