Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-03-10

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05:29 ewilhelm are the padre projects on the gsoc wiki page still relevant?  http://www.perlfoundation.org/pe​rl5/index.cgi?gsoc_2010_projects
05:30 ewilhelm also, please join #soc-help if you're interested in mentoring or have questions about Summer of Code
06:01 szabgab ewilhelm, I updated the list on the wiki with a few items I had in mind, others I hope will do the same as we have started to discuss the Gsoc on our mailing list as well
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06:35 ewilhelm szabgab, great.  thanks!
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08:25 azawawi gm
08:46 daxim repeating my question from yesterday: <shadowpaste> "daxim" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "These listed packages annoy me. Why do they appear?" (11 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/40436
08:47 Hyppolit svn: r11037 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11037
08:47 Hyppolit [Perl 6] whitespace fixes in Changes
08:47 Hyppolit trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/
08:50 Hyppolit svn: r11038 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11038
08:50 Hyppolit [Perl 6] Updated to STD.pm revision 30018
08:50 Hyppolit trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/lib/
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08:53 azawawi daxim: re your question, alias changed the naming of these in 0.56-0.57 (i think)
08:53 azawawi daxim: HelpProvider -> Help
08:54 daxim and how to get rid of them?
08:54 azawawi daxim: Splash -> Startup
08:54 azawawi daxim: i dont know :)
08:54 azawawi daxim: you always upgrade Padre right?
08:55 daxim yes, installing mostly from trunk, but right now I have 0.58 from cpan
08:55 * azawawi checks it on his cpan...
08:57 azawawi daxim: running the same command on my development repo... nothing
08:57 azawawi daxim: (win32) perl -MCPAN -e "CPAN::Shell->r" | find "Padre"
08:58 daxim okay
08:58 azawawi daxim: have you tried uninstalling Padre?
08:58 daxim no, that wouldn't help
08:58 daxim the phantom classes are not in the .packlist
08:58 azawawi via cpanp ?
08:58 azawawi aha
08:59 azawawi somehow cpan . screws things up then
08:59 daxim I'm going to delete the pertaining files
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09:00 azawawi daxim: how did cpan know that they were from earlier packages?
09:00 azawawi daxim: somewhere there is a file that wasnt updated
09:00 azawawi daxim: are you using sqlite ?
09:00 daxim I know it's from earlier versions because the r command says so
09:01 daxim if you mean CPAN::SQLite, no.  I have the file based indexing
09:01 azawawi daxim: ah ok
09:01 azawawi daxim: obliterate them then :)
09:01 daxim did so, now I have three more phantoms
09:01 daxim Padre::QuickFixProvider        0.52      0.56  PLAVEN/Padre-0.56.tar.gz
09:01 daxim Padre::QuickFixProvider::Perl      0.52      0.53  PLAVEN/Padre-0.53.tar.gz
09:01 daxim Padre::Wx::RightClick          0.52      0.55  PLAVEN/Padre-0.55.tar.gz
09:02 azawawi more alias refactoring :)
09:02 azawawi same..
09:03 daxim I hope I'm the only one getting this problem because I install from trunk
09:04 azawawi daxim: how about sending an email for it so that everyone checks it?
09:04 azawawi daxim: to padre-dev
09:04 daxim bleh, I don't want to sign up
09:05 azawawi daxim: okay then, ask Sewi/szabgab when they come to check it on their installation.
09:05 azawawi daxim: plz :)
09:06 daxim okay
09:10 azawawi thx
09:10 * azawawi work &
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09:32 Hyppolit svn: r11039 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11039
09:32 Hyppolit Perl tidy
09:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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09:34 zenog hi everyone
09:34 Hyppolit #883: Opening an existing Perl 6 script Hangs Padre on win32 (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/883 ]
09:34 Hyppolit svn: r11040 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11040
09:34 Hyppolit Perl tidy: Forgot one file, sorry
09:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
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11:25 zenog When I quit Padre (subversion), the main window does not close: Is this a known issue?
11:28 Alias__ Not that I know of
11:28 Alias__ What tools or plugins do you have turned on/enabled
11:29 Alias__ And is Padre chewing up cpu?
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11:33 zenog plugins: popularity contest, svn, perl tidy
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11:35 zenog 100% CPU usage
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11:53 zenog Alias__: I get the same behavior without any plugins as well.
12:19 Alias__ tools?
12:19 Alias__ Syntax highlighter or outline tool being my main candidates for misbehaviour wrt threads
12:29 zenog Alias__: How can I check that?
12:30 Alias__ If you have the syntax checker turned on, there's be a tool at the bottom of the screen that says "Syntax Checker"
12:30 Alias__ :)
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12:32 zenog negative
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12:36 Alias__ Turn off ALL plugins, and open with the "no files" Preference set
12:36 Alias__ So there's no possibility of any content or functions running
12:36 Alias__ And see if it still happens
12:42 zenog How do I do that? (sorry for this maybe-stupid question, but I am really new to Padre)
13:09 Hyppolit svn: r11041 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11041
13:09 Hyppolit updated German translation, in particular the Preferences dialog; gettext-ified some missing strings
13:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/share/locale/
13:38 zenog Another thing: 'Find' returns an error message if nothing is found. IMHO it should use main->info or main->message (just like Replace), not main->error
13:38 zenog I have a patch for that, is it okay if I commit it?
13:39 zenog Until now, I only did translation updates, no real code, that's why I ask. I don't want to step on anyone's toes here ...
13:40 zenog btw, are there any coding style guidlines?
13:40 zenog Or shall just use the style that I see in the source code?
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14:42 zenog I have also one question about ticket #140
14:42 Hyppolit #140: reordering tabs does not change their order with ctrl+tab (assigned defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/140#comment:7 ]
14:42 zenog http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/140
14:42 zenog If I understand it correctly, this is a feature, not a bug.
14:44 zenog You can set up ctrl-tab to follow the usage order (default) or the tab location order (by activating it in the preferences dialog).
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14:45 Sewi ping Alias_ Alias__
14:46 zenog Ah I see, it really seems to be bug - the option does not work ...
14:47 zenog hi Sewi
14:48 zenog Another question: While ctrl+tab works for switching tabs, things like ctrl+page_up or alt+1 do not work as known from many other tools.
14:49 Sewi Alias: Padre doesn't exit any longer (here), do you already know this?
14:49 Sewi Alias: Last part of trace (dev.pl --fulltrace) is here: http://nopaste.info/ed82ae8e08.html
14:50 Sewi zenog: Alt+Left / +Right works for left/right tab and Ctrl+Tab/Ctrl+Shift+Tab work for Tabs in usage order
14:50 zenog Sewi: I have the same problem.
14:51 Sewi Ctrl+C solves this but I doubt it would be good for a release. :-)
14:51 Sewi It's broken and I didn't touch the SlaveDriver lately. So Alias must be responsible for this, because we two usually break Padre :-)
14:53 Sewi exit worked right now :-) seems to work once for every 10-20 tries :-)
14:53 Alias__ pongihs
14:54 zenog Sewi: Is there a possibility to set this differently? Ctrl+tab e.g. works in most GNOME applications, Firefox, Google Chrome, MonoDevelop, ...
14:56 Sewi Yes, set the preferences option as you like.
14:56 Sewi But when editing multiple files of one project, you usually jump between two or three files and the default behaviour is time-safeing for this...
14:57 Sewi Alias__: Already wrote above :-)
14:58 zenog Sewi: But is there such an option?
14:59 Hyppolit svn: r11042 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11042
14:59 Hyppolit Adding a small survey at first Padre start after installation. The server side of this is still missing and might follow soon.
14:59 Hyppolit !!! This is a request-for-comments until the next release !!!
14:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/t/
14:59 Sewi zenog: Sure
14:59 Sewi Okay, guys, go ahead, slap at me :-)
15:00 zenog Sewi: Where is it? I cannot find it in the preferences dialog.
15:00 shadowpaste "daxim" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Sewi, Alias: do you currently have any of these files installed?" (9 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/40528
15:02 Sewi zenog: Verhalten -> 2. Option von oben
15:07 zenog Sewi: Okay, aber das ändert nur das Verhalten von Ctrl-Tab. Ahh.
15:07 zenog Sewi: Ich habe oben Quatsch geschrieben. Ich meinte Ctrl-PageUp
15:07 zenog Sewi: sorry
15:08 Sewi sorry
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15:11 Sewi Hi jagd
15:11 jagd Hi Sewi
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15:12 jagd wie geht's dir
15:26 jagd does someone know,  why can't i successfully exit Padre?  (SVN version)
15:31 zenog jagd: Seems to be a common problem, but I cannot help you there :-(
15:32 zenog Sewi: Another thing: 'Find' returns an error message if nothing is found. IMHO it should use main->info or main->message (just like Replace), not main->error
15:32 joerg hoi sewi
15:32 zenog Sewi: I have a patch for that, is it okay if I commit it?
15:32 jagd zenog: i just tried again,  but it was all right :(
15:34 Sewi zenog: Did you test it yourself?
15:34 Sewi Then commit it, and ask someone to test it again if you want
15:35 Sewi I'll be offline soon riding back home...
15:37 zenog Sewi: Yes, I tested it myself.
15:42 * jagd in the file   "Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/RegexEditor.pm"   line 84.
15:42 * jagd i think the developer do not mean   '01[:alnum:])'
15:43 * jagd should it be '01[:alnum:]'   without  bracket?
15:45 Sewi cu later
15:49 Hyppolit svn: r11043 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11043
15:49 Hyppolit search:  use main->info instead of ->error for no matches
15:49 Hyppolit replace: use main->info instead of ->message (so that users can decide whether to see it in a window or in the status bar)
15:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
15:50 zenog Can someone try out whether Search and Search+Replace still work properly? I tested it on my computer, but just to be sure ...
15:51 Hyppolit svn: r11044 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11044
15:51 Hyppolit updated German translation, regex editor is now mostly translated
15:51 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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16:00 Hyppolit svn: r11045 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11045
16:00 Hyppolit '01[:alnum:])' changed to '01[:alnum:]'
16:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
16:17 zenog The "Skip feedback" button is too small for the German translation. Is there a way to expand it?
16:17 jagd :)
16:17 zenog Padre::Wx::Dialog::WhereFrom;
16:17 zenog Line 35
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16:22 jagd zenog: mein Professor hat heute gerade gesagt, dass deutsche Vokabel viel k�rzer als Englisch ist
16:26 zenog jagd: Vielleicht stimmt das im Durchschnitt ... nur manchmal halt nicht ;-)
16:35 zenog One question: Isn't it wrong to include the key shortcuts in the menu translations?
16:35 zenog They should be (and are) assigned dynamically, right?
16:38 Hyppolit svn: r11046 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11046
16:38 Hyppolit updated German translation; should be complete now (modulo missing gettext statements in the source)
16:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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18:08 Getty ok actually i did it "just for the fun", but now where i see the result i think..... just see yourself: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_​GB&amp;word1=stupid+php&amp;word2=stupid+perl
18:09 Getty lol we really win that contest really against all common languages ;).. sadly it just could mean that so less people use it
18:20 Hyppolit svn: r11047 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11047
18:20 Hyppolit Add jagd to Translators :D
18:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
18:20 Hyppolit svn: r11048 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11048
18:20 Hyppolit update chinese translation
18:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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18:37 Sewi hi
18:37 jagd hi Sewi
18:40 jagd Sewi: i found some Problem in RegexEditor.  after fixing and testing, may i commit or give you a patch?
18:45 jagd i heard that some friends have already translated the RegexEditor,  but some texts ware not right.  is it ok,  to change the text?
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18:55 jagd Problemlist for RegexEditor :  http://pastebin.com/br86NhEb
18:55 Hyppolit Changeset #86 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/86
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19:19 Sewi jagd: You got a commit bit, update the Changes file and commit it.
19:20 Sewi ping szabgab
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20:06 Hyppolit svn: r11049 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11049
20:06 Hyppolit fix RegexEditor Quantifier description of {m,n} and {n}
20:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
20:19 Hyppolit #479: Keep file permissions when doing "Save as..." (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/479#comment:3 ]
20:20 Sewi ping karl.f
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20:23 Sewi Hi Sno|Laptop
20:24 Sno|Laptop hi Sewi
20:25 Hyppolit #736: Function list is incorrect (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/736#comment:4 ]
20:28 Sno|Laptop pkgsrc has 2010Q1 freeze at 03/18/10
20:28 Sno|Laptop will be the first version having binary packages of padre
20:29 Sno|Laptop if anything new should be included ... :)
20:31 Sewi We're unstable at the moment :-(
20:32 Sno|Laptop it's just a week time :D
20:34 Sewi Stability goes down at the moment :-( Current svn trunk can't even exit.
20:37 Sno|Laptop kill -9 :)
20:40 Sewi SIGINT :-)
20:41 Sewi Yeah, but I don't want this to be in a release.
20:41 Sno|Laptop sure
20:41 Sno|Laptop ich wollt's halt ma gesagt haben ^^
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21:09 mantovani garu: http://www.cs.brown.edu/peop​le/acb/codebubbles_site.htm
21:09 mantovani I think it is a good ideia to implement on Padre
21:11 Sewi Add a ticket  for it :-)
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21:23 szabgab pong Sewi
21:24 szabgab though I am heading to sleep soon
21:24 Sewi Did you read my mail?
21:36 Sewi I meant the one about Padre survey
21:37 szabgab not yet, I'll try to read it tomorrow, I really have to go to sleep now
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21:39 Sewi Sleep well :-)
21:42 Hyppolit #484: Select a complete block from one brace to another (reopened enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/484#comment:2 ]
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22:09 Hyppolit #479: Keep file permissions when doing "Save as..." (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/479#comment:4 ]
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22:58 Hyppolit svn: r11050 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11050
22:58 Hyppolit Workaround the exit-failure problem
22:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
23:03 Hyppolit svn: r11051 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11051
23:03 Hyppolit Perl tidy
23:03 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
23:07 Hyppolit svn: r11052 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11052
23:07 Hyppolit Add Padre survey server script to temp location
23:07 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/
23:18 Sewi gn8
23:18 Hyppolit svn: r11053 | karl.forner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11053
23:18 Hyppolit Ticket #484:
23:18 Hyppolit Select a complete block from one brace to another
23:18 Hyppolit
23:18 Hyppolit Made a quick implementation of the requested feature. I could not bind it to CTRL+SHIFT+1 because on my French keyboard it is the combination I have to type to produce the CTRL+1 shortcut, so I bound it to CTRL+4
23:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
23:18 Sewi karl...
23:18 Sewi I just wanted to go to bed
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23:19 Sewi Karl...
23:19 Sewi Why did you do that NOW?
23:20 Karl ?
23:20 Sewi I just wanted to go to bed. Now I need to try out this nice feature before :-)
23:20 Karl :-)
23:20 Karl where are you ?
23:20 Sewi Cool, seems to work good.
23:21 Sewi But you should either force selection of the starting bracket or select the final bracket only if the starting one is selected.
23:21 Karl I did it now because I want to go to bed too !
23:21 Karl what do you mean by force selection ?
23:21 Sewi Seems we're in not-far-away timezones :-)
23:22 Karl gmt+1
23:22 Sewi If you put the cursor behind the starting bracket, it isn't selected.
23:22 Sewi me too
23:22 Sewi If you put it before the bracket, it is selected.
23:22 Sewi The closing one is always selected.
23:22 Karl hmm
23:23 Karl yes I see what you mean
23:23 Sewi no worry
23:23 Karl Is it bad ?
23:24 Sewi Great feature and you got ~2 weeks to fix it until the next release coming up :-)
23:24 Sewi It should be solved.
23:24 Sewi And I'll write to the mailing list about this save as discussion
23:25 Karl ok, but what should be the proper way : to force selection of the starting brace ?
23:26 Sewi Personally I'd prefer the other way: select the final bracket only if the starting is also selected.
23:26 Sewi Would be more flexible
23:26 Karl ok, but you also have to deal with the existing selection
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23:28 Sewi I didn't look at the source at all until now :-)
23:28 Sewi Maxbe tomorrow, now $sewi->move($bed); :-)
23:28 Sewi gn8
23:29 Karl sleep($well)
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