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IRC log for #padre, 2010-03-22

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04:21 azawawi good morning
04:58 * Alias__ waves
05:00 * azawawi is playing with icons...
05:01 * Alias__ is submitting entry to http://www.information.nsw.gov.au/apps4nsw
05:06 azawawi Alias*: ping :)
05:21 azawawi Alias__: r u there?
05:21 Alias__ pong
05:21 Alias__ Not really, busy for the next 40 minutes
05:23 azawawi i found the icon problem on win32
05:23 Alias__ I don't recall the problem
05:23 Alias__ But well done, so we can have menus with icons now?
05:23 azawawi the logo appears blurry on the task switch list... ALT-tab...
05:23 Alias__ oh, didn't know about that one
05:24 azawawi open padre, alt-tab to see it... it is really ugly...
05:24 Alias__ ah, that
05:25 azawawi so basically we need an 'all' folder or onesizefitsall... in share/icons
05:25 azawawi and add the ico file
05:25 azawawi and then use seticons for win32
05:26 azawawi the funny thing is that wxiconbundle->AddIcon does not work as advertised...
05:27 Hyppolit svn: r11155 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11155
05:27 Hyppolit Added the win32 native ico file share\icons\padre\all directory
05:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/icons/padre/ trunk/Padre/share/icons/padre/all/
05:32 Hyppolit svn: r11156 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11156
05:32 Hyppolit Windows needs its ICOn file for Padre to look cooler in the task bar, task switch bar and task manager. This should fix ticket:904
05:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
05:33 Hyppolit #904: Win32 taskbar icon is only 16x16 (Windows 7 may uses 48x48) (closed enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/904#comment:2 ]
05:35 Hyppolit svn: r11157 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11157
05:35 Hyppolit Updated Changes
05:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
05:36 azawawi Alias__: This should make padre a bit faster on win32 since there is no actual call to Padre::Wx::Icon::find(@_)
05:37 Alias__ cool
05:37 azawawi are you using win7/vista right now?
05:38 Hyppolit svn: r11158 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11158
05:38 Hyppolit Perl tidy (7 files)
05:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ trunk/Padre/t/
05:49 szabgab gm
05:49 szabgab smoke testing is still FAILing
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07:09 azawawi gm again :)
07:10 azawawi szabgab: smoke testing issue... i will look into it
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08:09 waxhead evening all
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08:42 azawawi hi
08:42 waxhead hey azawawi
08:42 azawawi waxhead: :)
08:43 waxhead how goes the new windows launcher?
08:43 azawawi dolmen++ did a great job
08:43 azawawi and i fixed the Padre logo in the task list issue...
08:43 azawawi so padre.exe looks native on win32
08:43 waxhead SA-WEET!
08:44 azawawi tested it on vista/xp and it was cool
08:44 azawawi need someone to test it on win7
08:44 waxhead it will be good to get the threading sorted out to get a stable release out there
08:44 azawawi yeah and the key binding thing also
08:44 azawawi Sewi: ping
08:46 azawawi there is also the perl 6 plugin crash issue that i raised earlier
08:46 azawawi the new threading model...
08:47 azawawi i was also talking to mbrends on #perl6 to get rakudo build process into Perl plugin
08:47 azawawi s/Perl plugin/Perl6 plugin/
08:48 azawawi basically I am thinking of making the rakudo build process easier via the Perl 6 plugin
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08:48 azawawi so you could try the latest or another stable build right away
08:48 waxhead azawawi, don't you have enough to do though?  :)
08:48 azawawi http://irclog.perlgeek.de/​perl6/2010-03-11#i_2092969
08:49 azawawi im always trying to challenge myself further  :)
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09:24 zenog hi guys
09:32 waxhead hey zenog
09:40 zenog I re-did the statistics dialog. Is okay to commit that, or shall we reduce commits to the repository because of a imminent release?
09:56 waxhead zenog keep committing... we won't release until we're a bit more stable.... as it stands for now...
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11:16 Hyppolit svn: r11159 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11159
11:16 Hyppolit improved refactoring dialog messages
11:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/
11:20 Hyppolit svn: r11160 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11160
11:20 Hyppolit English (Australian) -> English (Australia)
11:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
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11:24 Hyppolit svn: r11161 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11161
11:24 Hyppolit added a new document statistics dialog; there are still three (small) issues with the dialog - help & feedback appreciated
11:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Wx/Perl/
11:25 zenog oops. The tab -> space conversion was not intended to be in the commit.
11:25 zenog Sorry guys.
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11:27 zenog Shall I revert those changes, or does it matter at all?
11:28 zenog Are there any rules about whether to use tab or space in Padre?
11:28 zenog pece: hi
11:28 waxhead zenog, there's a script in tools that formats the code
11:29 waxhead zenog, tidy_project.pl
11:30 zenog waxhead: And I just run it before commiting?
11:31 Hyppolit svn: r11162 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11162
11:31 Hyppolit updated German translation
11:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
11:32 waxhead zenog, dunno that you have to run it each time... ew run it before release and usually someone like Sewi or azawawi run it... but if you wanted to you can..
11:33 zenog waxhead: OK. Then I won't worry too much about it.
11:34 zenog If someone with WxPerl skills could have a look at the new dialog that I have created - I would like to get some feedback what I could do better.
11:34 zenog There are also some things that could be better, but I still lack the Wx knowledge for that.
11:34 zenog e.g. how to set nicer margins to the window border
11:34 waxhead it's a learning process :)
11:35 zenog lunch &
11:35 waxhead I think azawawi is one of the better gui guys... ask him if he pops in...
11:35 waxhead zzzz &
11:35 zenog okay
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12:20 zenog hi SvenDowideit_
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12:42 azawawi zenog: hi
12:42 azawawi zenog: fyi, SpecialValues.pm has a syntax error...
12:43 azawawi zenog: 157, Error, Global symbol "$filename" requires explicit package name.
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13:11 Hyppolit svn: r11163 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11163
13:11 Hyppolit add timestamp to swarm chat.
13:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/
13:18 Hyppolit svn: r11164 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11164
13:18 Hyppolit fix syntax error
13:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
13:31 zenog Is it okay if I add myself to the developer list in Padre.pm?
13:45 Alias__ It's more than okay, it's required
13:49 zenog okay
13:53 Hyppolit svn: r11165 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11165
13:53 Hyppolit added stats dialog to Changes; added myself to the developer list
13:53 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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14:14 azawawi hi
14:14 azawawi Alias*: pinglet
14:21 zenog azawawi: Thank you for pointing out the SpecialValues.pm problem.
14:21 azawawi zenog: np
14:21 zenog azawawi: If you have time, can you have a look at DocStats.pm?
14:21 azawawi zenog: and while testing padre set AUTOMATED_TESTING=1 and RELEASE_TESTING=1
14:21 azawawi zenog: cpan .
14:22 zenog azawawi: It is my first dialog, and some things are not so perfect yet.
14:23 azawawi zenog: while Wx::Dialog makes it easy to do things, it lacks the Wx::Sizer power to correct most layout stuff...
14:24 azawawi zenog: please take a look at KeyBindings.pm or OpenResource.pm
14:25 azawawi zenog: ah sorry...
14:25 azawawi zenog: that should work. I personally do not use Wx::FlexGridSizer
14:26 azawawi zenog: wrap your sizer with another horizontal /vertical sizer to add the margins
14:27 azawawi zenog: add an ID_CANCEL button to implement the ESCape key behavior
14:28 azawawi zenog: so far it looks great... zenog++
14:29 azawawi zenog: and can you add a way to insert those stats to the current document?
14:30 zenog azawawi: Yes, some of the stats are already available, the rest should be easy to add, too.
14:30 azawawi zenog: is the update button currently working?
14:30 zenog I think so, at least for the cases that I have tested.
14:31 zenog You can change the selection, switch to another file, etc., and it updates accordingly.
14:31 zenog There is one display problem with the right column:
14:31 zenog It does not resize correctly if it is set to ALIGN_RIGHT like it is now.
14:32 zenog So if the initial value for the selected stats has only 1 digit, and then you change the selection, you still see only one digit.
14:32 zenog Say, if you have first selected one line, and then select 30 lines, you see a "3" instead of a "30".
14:33 azawawi zenog: if the the document is unsaved and you change it and then click update... nothing happens.
14:34 zenog azawawi: You are right, it only checks whether the selection or the selected tab has changed, it does not update if the file is still the same, even if it is modified.
14:35 zenog azawawi: I think I was doing too much thinking there ... this way it is also easier to implement.
14:36 azawawi zenog: cool
14:36 azawawi zenog: do you expect more document stats?
14:36 azawawi zenog: if so, you can make it filter-able (searchable) like key bindings/open resource
14:37 zenog azawawi: I am not so sure. I did not want to add more by myself, because I think it is not worth adding features if there is no need ;-)
14:37 zenog azawawi: But one thing would be interesting: File-type specific stats.
14:37 azawawi zenog: aha
14:38 zenog azawawi: e.g. lines of code for programs, documentation/test coverage
14:38 azawawi zenog: maybe Alias can shed some light on this one...
14:38 zenog azawawi: number of distinct/total number XML/HTML tags, such things
14:39 zenog azawawi: But as I said, once everything works fine and looks nice, I would rather go on and work on things that are more important to me.
14:40 zenog azawawi: What do you mean by filterable?
14:40 azawawi zenog: sure
14:40 azawawi zenog: like the advanced preferences/open resource or key bindings dialog
14:40 zenog azawawi: Ah okay, I see.
14:40 azawawi zenog: that makes stats generic....
14:41 azawawi zenog: no need to add a new label for each new stat...
14:41 zenog azawawi: I think that presenting it with such a filter is overkill.
14:41 azawawi zenog: :)
14:41 zenog azawawi: But of course it would make sense to do the stats in a more abstract way.
14:41 zenog azawawi: More declarative, that we just generate the dialog from a table, etc.
14:42 azawawi zenog: for now the border and the escape key to dismiss the dialog are the ones that are bothering me the most :)
14:43 zenog azawawi: Will try to work on this using the hints you gave me.
14:43 azawawi zenog: have fun :)
14:43 zenog azawawi: thanks ;-)
14:43 azawawi zenog: and welcome to the team
14:44 * azawawi back 2 work &
15:04 zenog How can I set AUTOMATED_TESTING=1 and RELEASE_TESTING=1 ?
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15:06 zenog hi mohsen
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15:25 azawawi zenog: you're on linux or win32?
15:25 azawawi zenog: on win32, set AUTOMATED_TESTING=1
15:26 azawawi zenog: on linux, (depending on your shell), export AUTOMATED_TESTING=1
15:26 azawawi and the same for RELEASE_TESTING ofcourse
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16:11 zenog hi rindolf, hi jq
16:12 rindolf Hi zenog
16:17 rindolf zenog: what's up?
16:21 zenog rindolf: Everything fine - how 'bout you?
16:22 rindolf zenog: I'm taking a break from my paid project.
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16:27 daxim rindolf, have a look at http://github.com/daxim/bobby-tables and see whether it has any left-to-right-isms that would hinder further l10n efforts
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16:35 rindolf daxim: don't know.
16:35 daxim good
16:35 rindolf daxim: I'm not really in the mood for that - sorry.
16:36 daxim ah, you didn't look, then
16:36 rindolf daxim: I've skimmed the makefile.
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20:31 Sewi *advertising on* Hannover.pm has finally been set up! Everybody in/near Hannover is welcome to join the mailing list and start discussing how to go on: http://hannover.pm.org *advertising off*
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20:39 szabgab Sewi, see #perlde
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22:04 Hyppolit svn: r11166 | patspam++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11166
22:04 Hyppolit New releace of Padre::Plugin::Plack (0.04)
22:04 Hyppolit
22:04 Hyppolit Fixes crashes and weird behaviour with newer versions of Padre
22:04 Hyppolit (Padre::Document::get_mimetype was renamed to Padre::Document::mimetype)
22:04 Hyppolit Adds Dutch translation (ddn123456++)
22:04 Hyppolit Adds Brazilian Portuguese translation (garu)
22:04 Hyppolit Updated list of Plack::HandlerS
22:04 Hyppolit Updated dot-psgi examples from Plack distro
22:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Plack/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Plack/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Plack/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Plack/lib/Padre/Plugin/Plack/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Plack/share/dot-psgi/
22:05 garu patspam cool!
22:06 patspam thanks for the translation garu
22:06 Alias__ Sorry about the API changes
22:07 Alias__ They are useful as the step you do before the harder refactoring, so you're sure the API looks right before you make the serious changes :)
22:07 garu patspam, anytime, mate. hopefully you get some nice things on the plugin that I can borrow for the catalyst one
22:08 garu Alias__, what API changes? :)
22:08 garu on the plugins?
22:09 Alias__ On Padre::Document::mimetype
22:09 Alias__ I was fiddling around with some other changes
22:09 garu oh
22:09 patspam Alias: that's ok, it's worth the awesome pace of development
22:10 Alias__ I swear to fucking god my mouse is "crashing" and doing hard-reboots or something
22:10 Alias__ I assume the mouse runs some kind of OS these days
22:10 patspam ha
22:10 Alias__ qnx or something I would imagine
22:11 Alias__ It's murder during gaming
22:11 Alias__ All of a sudden all mouse input stops
22:11 Alias__ In the middle of an online firefight or whatever
22:11 Alias__ And comes back in around 5-10 seconds after the reboot is finished
22:11 Alias__ Then it will work for another few minutes
22:12 Alias__ It seems to be particularly sensitive to fast movement
22:12 szabgab it gets dizzy
22:12 patspam your l33t gaming speed is overloading it
22:12 Alias__ Hey patspam, check this out :)
22:12 Alias__ http://ali.as/crimealert/live/shiny/index.htm
22:13 Alias__ I managed to get a never-before-seen geo-report out of the NSW Police COPS database :)
22:13 patspam craziness
22:13 Alias__ That's an Assault heatmap for the city, coloured by standard deviations from the mean
22:13 Alias__ I've also got car theft, break into car, and break and enter (home)
22:15 patspam do you have one for where they're beating up the most coloured people?
22:15 Alias__ You'd have to define "coloured"
22:15 Alias__ Which would be problematic in the city
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