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gm |
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szabgab |
Alias, what are these test commits? |
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szabgab: What are these what? |
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Alias__ |
The branch stuff? |
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Alias__ |
Or something else actually /t/ related? |
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Alias__ |
ooohh |
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Alias__ |
The test commits are me having problems with svn clients and login/passwords |
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Alias__ |
That only happen on commit, and not on update |
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Sewi |
gm |
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Alias__ |
hi |
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* Alias__ |
is about a third of the way through Task 2.0 |
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Alias__ |
And making good progress |
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szabgab |
https://openhatch.org/+projects/Padre |
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szabgab |
I still don't understand why is this openhatch interesting |
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OpenHatch was founded in May 2009 by three alumni of the free culture and free software movements. The company was part of startup incubator Shotput Ventures‘ inaugural class. Our core product is an open source software involvement engine. For developers, we provide tools to demonstrate and broaden their experience and expertise in the open source community. |
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Alias__ |
They list two "Alumni" already... people that no longer are involved... only 9 months after starting |
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azawawi |
good morning |
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Sewi |
hi azawawi |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11254 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11254 |
| 07:04 |
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Hyppolit |
add some more blog posts |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
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szabgab |
Alias, so 2 of the alumni are now alumni**2 |
| 07:05 |
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szabgab |
Alias, so 2 of the 3 alumni are now alumni**2 |
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* azawawi |
reads p5p rss feed now everyday :) |
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szabgab |
daxim, https://openhatch.org/+projects/Padre |
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azawawi |
szabgab: interesting discussion in http://xenoterracide.blogspot.[…]-work-is-job.html :) |
| 07:28 |
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szabgab |
I saw that |
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szabgab |
I am not really sure what to think |
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azawawi |
frankly he removes the -Ofun out of FOSS :) |
| 07:33 |
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szabgab |
I did not have that feeling |
| 07:34 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i found a couple of =head1 warranty in our codebase |
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azawawi |
szabgab: "There is no warranty whatsoever." :) |
| 07:35 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: "If you lose data or your hair because of this program, that's your problem. " |
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azawawi |
:) |
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szabgab |
:-) |
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azawawi |
szabgab: it is only in Simple.pm and Beginner.pm |
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szabgab |
I don't even see it in Beginner |
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azawawi |
szabgab: line 362 |
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szabgab |
ah warranty |
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szabgab |
but not the hair thing |
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azawawi |
szabgab: the other one Simple.pm |
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szabgab |
we can remove those , we have the disclaimer of warranty in Padre.pm |
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szabgab |
also the copyright is incorrect in the pod of Simple.pm |
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* azawawi |
removing |
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szabgab |
as it say my name instead of the Padre team |
| 07:41 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11255 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11255 |
| 07:41 |
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Hyppolit |
POD changes: removed warranty section and updated copyright |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Wx/Perl/Dialog/ |
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azawawi |
we may need a test for =head LICENSE |
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azawawi |
i.e. =head1 LICENSE |
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szabgab |
there are some tests checking for the copyright at the bottom of the files, use that test file |
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azawawi |
will do |
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azawawi |
but for fun only :) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11256 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11256 |
| 08:09 |
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Hyppolit |
add a static wherefrom.html page and change the reporting to submit the information there |
| 08:09 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/perlide.org/popularity/v1/ trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/ |
| 08:10 |
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szabgab |
Sewi, the wherefrom was changed and it is now working |
| 08:14 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: do we need to check for copyright in POD *and* # comment ? |
| 08:15 |
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szabgab |
probably we should always have it in the # comment |
| 08:15 |
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szabgab |
and in some files we should also have it in the pod |
| 08:16 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: but disallow =head1 COPYRIGHT|LICENSE$ alone? |
| 08:17 |
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waxhead |
evening everyone.. |
| 08:17 |
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szabgab |
after acking for ack =head1 | grep -i copyright I am not sure |
| 08:17 |
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waxhead |
are we ready for a reelase tonight? |
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szabgab |
waxhead, I think so |
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waxhead |
OK, just testing RELEASE_TESTING now |
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szabgab |
azawawi, probably copyright and license *should* be separate entries but we don't need to enforce that in every file |
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azawawi |
szabgab: then im going to delay that change after the release |
| 08:21 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: since a lot of files need to be fixed |
| 08:25 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: Cool, thanks. Now we need to process this numbers and show it somewhere |
| 08:26 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, what about the translations page? Is that still off line, so to speak? |
| 08:26 |
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azawawi |
waxhead: hi, when is the 0.59 release due? |
| 08:26 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: -26 minutes from now :-) |
| 08:26 |
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waxhead |
I'll start at 2100 here, so that's about an hour and a half |
| 08:27 |
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szabgab |
waxhead, let me try to fix that too now |
| 08:27 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, daylight savings time.. you lost an hour.. :) |
| 08:27 |
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Sewi |
waxhead: oops, sorry :-) |
| 08:29 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: that long. oh well i'll wait :) |
| 08:29 |
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waxhead |
-90mins |
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Sewi |
waxhead: 90 mins from now. I was using your 10:00 in the wrong timezone, it's 10:30 here now... |
| 08:30 |
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waxhead |
1000 UTC... that should be 2100 here... :) |
| 08:32 |
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waxhead |
great job on the test fixes!!!! |
| 08:32 |
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waxhead |
this will be the first time RELEASE_TESTING passed before a release.. |
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szabgab |
:) |
| 08:33 |
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Sewi |
cool, IE is crashing here due to website errors - on "about:blank" :-) |
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azawawi |
which IE version? |
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Sewi |
8.0 |
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waxhead |
final call before release.. |
| 09:49 |
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waxhead |
or is everyone waiting for it? |
| 09:57 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11257 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11257 |
| 09:57 |
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Hyppolit |
Update for release 0.59. |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
| 09:59 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11258 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11258 |
| 09:59 |
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Hyppolit |
Tidy project for release 0.59. |
| 09:59 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ trunk/Padre/lib/Wx/Perl/ trunk/Padre/xt/ |
| 10:01 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11259 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11259 |
| 10:01 |
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Hyppolit |
Version bump to 0.59. |
| 10:01 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DocBrowser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/QuickFix/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/ |
| 10:10 |
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daxim |
who does the cpan release? |
| 10:12 |
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waxhead |
me while I hold the job of relelase manage |
| 10:12 |
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waxhead |
release even |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11260 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11260 |
| 10:19 |
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Hyppolit |
Bump version number to 0.03 |
| 10:19 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Perl-Staff/ trunk/Perl-Staff/lib/Perl/ |
| 10:19 |
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* Sewi |
releasing... |
| 10:21 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11261 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11261 |
| 10:21 |
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Hyppolit |
Updated Changes |
| 10:21 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Perl-Staff/ |
| 10:21 |
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Sewi |
Uploaded to CPAN, enjoy it :-) |
| 10:22 |
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Sewi |
waxhead: Which was your cpan nick? |
| 10:23 |
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waxhead |
plaven |
| 10:24 |
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Sewi |
Thanks, you're now co-maint for Perl::Staff |
| 10:28 |
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waxhead |
thanks... I think... |
| 10:28 |
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Sewi |
Getty: What about adding a Hyppolit trigger for :: Module names showing a link to CPAN? |
| 10:31 |
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waxhead |
hmmm... this is weird... |
| 10:35 |
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waxhead |
why does make disttest get run by setting DIS |
| 10:35 |
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waxhead |
PLAY=0 ? |
| 10:35 |
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waxhead |
and then the tests fail because it doesn't have a DISPLAY variable set... |
| 10:38 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, what is Perl::Staff for? |
| 10:41 |
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Sewi |
You don't know Perl::Staff??? |
| 10:43 |
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waxhead |
not really... |
| 10:43 |
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Sewi |
This ist Perl::Staff http://cebit.perl-magazin.de/i[…]vent/DSC_0339.JPG |
| 10:43 |
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waxhead |
seen mention ofi t |
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waxhead |
ha.. yeah, seen that pic too.. is that you and gabor? |
| 10:43 |
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Sewi |
http://search.cpan.org/~sewi/P[…]Staff.pm#SYNOPSIS |
| 10:43 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, just did your survey |
| 10:43 |
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Sewi |
Getty and me :-) |
| 10:44 |
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szabgab |
sz? |
| 10:44 |
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Hyppolit |
sz is http://www.flickr.com/photos/szbalint/3812328050/ |
| 10:44 |
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Sewi |
My survey? You mean the where-did-you-hear-about-Padre thing? |
| 10:44 |
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szabgab |
waxhead, that's me |
| 10:45 |
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waxhead |
yep.. just finished building 0.59 and did a pip of the test file... I'm running release again now with --tag so you'll see it tagged shortly... |
| 10:45 |
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Sewi |
szab: sorry for releasing soo late :-( |
| 10:45 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11262 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11262 |
| 10:45 |
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Hyppolit |
tag Padre-0.59 |
| 10:45 |
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Hyppolit |
tags/ |
| 10:45 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, that you in the blue? |
| 10:45 |
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waxhead |
oh.. back to work... |
| 10:46 |
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szabgab |
waxhead, yeah, the blue shirt is me |
| 10:49 |
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waxhead |
ok.. test/pip http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pad[…]Padre-0.59.tar.gz |
| 10:52 |
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szbalint |
szabgab: I heard you're going to come to the QA hackathon :) |
| 10:54 |
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waxhead |
hmm... odd errors in the install testing... |
| 10:55 |
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szabgab |
szbalint, indeed |
| 10:56 |
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szabgab |
and I am just researching buying an n900 |
| 10:56 |
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szabgab |
but will you szbalint also be there? |
| 10:57 |
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szbalint |
Sadly no. I wanted to come, but it clashes with elections in .hu |
| 10:57 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, really??? I've been thinking about nan n900 |
| 10:57 |
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szbalint |
but I guess you'll meet stemes :) |
| 10:57 |
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waxhead |
OK, installs fine on Ubnuntu and Vista |
| 10:57 |
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szabgab |
waxhead, szbalint has an n900 so we should ask him how is it? |
| 10:57 |
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waxhead |
szbalint, what do you think of the n900? |
| 10:58 |
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szbalint |
I'm satisfied so far :) |
| 10:58 |
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szabgab |
I wanted to hack on it during the hackathon |
| 10:58 |
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szbalint |
I've had it since january |
| 10:58 |
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waxhead |
otherwise I'll think I'll get a nexus one |
| 10:58 |
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waxhead |
the google andriod phone... |
| 10:58 |
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waxhead |
looks nice enough |
| 10:58 |
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szbalint |
It has perl out of the box |
| 10:58 |
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szbalint |
xterm |
| 10:58 |
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waxhead |
szbalint, so you're getting the feel for it now... |
| 10:58 |
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waxhead |
yeah, the perl would be for the debian based management wouldn't it? |
| 10:59 |
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szbalint |
yep |
| 10:59 |
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szbalint |
it's 5.8.4 I think |
| 10:59 |
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waxhead |
szbalint, it looks nice enough, I follow the maemo planet to see what's happening there... but I have to say after the e71 I'm a bit over nokias |
| 11:00 |
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szbalint |
I used my n900 as a remote to drive mplayer running on my laptop connected to the tv with a hdmi cable, to stream a movie from my fileserver via sshfs |
| 11:00 |
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szbalint |
the day before yesterday |
| 11:01 |
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szbalint |
that's about the maximum complexity level I've reached so far :) |
| 11:01 |
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waxhead |
hahaha.. true geekness |
| 11:01 |
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waxhead |
i've read plenty of good things about the n900... |
| 11:01 |
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szabgab |
0.59 installed fine on my ubuntu |
| 11:02 |
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waxhead |
the 3g isn't supported for the main carried here in .au though. |
| 11:02 |
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waxhead |
release it then? |
| 11:02 |
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szabgab |
yes, go ahead |
| 11:02 |
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szbalint |
The only thing I don't like is the ~24-48h battery life depending on use, however that's a smartphone problem. I'm just not used to it since my previous phone wasn't one and it lasted 1-2 weeks |
| 11:02 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, I'm still thinking about tagging it 'stablish' and on the way to being stable... it still exits with running thread errors... |
| 11:03 |
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szbalint |
but I can live with putting it on the charger :) |
| 11:03 |
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waxhead |
szbalint, jeezz... 1.2weeks.... yeah, the functionality comes at a cost... but not a major one if you can get a full day... it's a pain if your phone dies during the day though |
| 11:03 |
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szabgab |
I just saw a wireless charger for iphone... |
| 11:04 |
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waxhead |
I have a bridge too if you want to buy one of those.. :) |
| 11:04 |
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szbalint |
yeah, it must be one of those $999 apps from the store |
| 11:04 |
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szbalint |
damn the store, (apt-get)++ |
| 11:05 |
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waxhead |
oh.. should we delete the old versions of padre in my directory on cpan? |
| 11:06 |
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Sewi |
waxhead: 0.56 was stable... keeping 0.55 should be enough? |
| 11:08 |
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szabgab |
keep the "stable one" |
| 11:08 |
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szabgab |
and a few others |
| 11:08 |
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szabgab |
as it turns out the problem of CPAN is not the size as one would have though but the number of files |
| 11:09 |
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szabgab |
so keeping a few versions of a large distro is less of a problem than keeping many versions of a small distro |
| 11:09 |
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waxhead |
ok... I'll just keep them there and start removing a version for every new one after this... |
| 11:09 |
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waxhead |
ok.. that's done.. just need to do up the release announcement... |
| 11:10 |
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waxhead |
oh.. of course.. |
| 11:10 |
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waxhead |
one more thing |
| 11:13 |
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Topic for #padreis now Latest Padre is 0.59, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001 |
| 11:13 |
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Sewi |
:-) |
| 11:13 |
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waxhead |
now it's done.. apart from the release announcement.. |
| 11:14 |
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waxhead |
commit away!! :) |
| 11:14 |
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waxhead |
oh.. did the translations page get fixed up? |
| 11:14 |
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waxhead |
why not run it from a cron.. say 4 times a day? |
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szabgab |
that's the plan |
| 11:43 |
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szabgab |
I just need to get it done |
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szabgab |
waxhead, our last "stable" version was 0.56, right ? |
| 11:48 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, yep.. 57 and 58 were clearly marked as unstable.. in terms of the relelase announcement and in the changes file |
| 11:48 |
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waxhead |
I guess we are now stable, but with some rough edges |
| 11:50 |
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szabgab |
so I recommended 0.56 for Debian inclusion |
| 11:50 |
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szabgab |
we'll see if this is really stable or if we can improve on it in the next release |
| 11:50 |
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szabgab |
and if that is still on time for Debian to include |
| 11:51 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, I don't see that we were in a truely unstable state.. ie eat your code unstable, but we did have some issues in 0.57 and Adam did a great job figuring things out and making this release less problematic. |
| 11:52 |
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waxhead |
it will be interesting to see how he goes iwth the task changes he's working on in his branch |
| 11:52 |
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daxim |
wow, nagscreen |
| 11:52 |
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daxim |
D-: |
| 11:53 |
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waxhead |
I think we're going to see reports from people with some of the unclean exiting... |
| 11:53 |
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Sewi |
yes |
| 11:53 |
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Sewi |
What about adding a standalone to Debian instead of the Perl module? |
| 11:54 |
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szabgab |
what do you mean Sewi ? |
| 11:55 |
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daxim |
holy shit, a keybinding editor! |
| 11:56 |
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waxhead |
daxim, you haven't noticed azawawi's commits? |
| 11:56 |
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Sewi |
Debian clearly has a problem with versions and Padre requires very new versions of many dependencies. If we'd add the files to /usr/share/Padre and use a /usr/bin/padre start script, Padre could have it's dependencies while Debian system perl could use old versions. |
| 11:58 |
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szabgab |
I'd rather not get into that |
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szabgab |
let the Debian maintainers figure out the best way to package Perl on Debian, they are the experts |
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szabgab |
s/Perl/Padre/ |
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daxim |
I can save you the trouble: they aren't going to package it officially unless development speed goes way down |
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daxim |
your best bet is to have a friendly debian user/packager supply an unofficial repo |
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waxhead |
wasn't someone saying the build scripts for a debian package of padre could get sorted out and if so, we could build .deb's and host it on perlide.org couldn't we? |
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daxim |
exactly |
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waxhead |
hmm I think it was in the dev list.. zenog mentioned it |
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Steffen |
Sewi: Just a quick note. Your suggestion runs afoul of the debian policy not to package the same code multiple times. They really mean it. |
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waxhead |
hey zenog... 0.59 is now out... go mad committing changes.. :) |
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zenog |
waxhead: Cool. |
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zenog |
I guess I will do some stuff on Friday. Need to focus on research - paper deadline in two weeks ... |
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zenog |
waxhead: Are there already release notes? |
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waxhead |
zenog, I have a terrible habit of doing the release and then writing the release announcement... |
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waxhead |
which is quite late here, and I'm normally rather tired... |
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waxhead |
just finished the post... it should appear on blogs.padre.perlide.org some time soon.. |
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waxhead |
or you can go here |
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waxhead |
http://perlwannabe.vox.com/lib[…]een-released.html |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11263 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11263 |
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Hyppolit |
updated links for release announcement |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
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waxhead |
right time for bed |
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waxhead |
night all |
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Sewi |
gn8 sleep well :-) |
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zenog |
good night waxhead, thank you for managing the releases! |
| 12:49 |
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zenog |
szabgab: You wrote on the mailing list that the splash screen is under a non-free license. Couldn't we contact the copyright holder and ask for a free license for the picture? |
| 12:50 |
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szabgab |
I sent her e-mails several times but have not received any reply |
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szabgab |
you are welcome to try again |
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zenog |
hm okay |
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szabgab |
Sewi, as I recall you wanted to work on the usage data collection of Padre |
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szabgab |
so maybe you can give it a try now |
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marcela |
szabgab: hello, do you still maintain Task-Padre-Plugin-Deps? |
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zenog |
szabgab: Another thing we could try - release every version of Padre with a new butterfly splash screen. |
| 12:57 |
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szabgab |
marcela, that does not seem to be updated nowdays |
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zenog |
flickr gives those: http://www.flickr.com/search/?[…]ct=0&mt=all&adv=1 |
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marcela |
szabgab: so it's uselles now? and I can close review for it? |
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szabgab |
actually Id'd rather change the splash screen so the Debian folks won't need to remove it |
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szabgab |
marcela, right now you should not spend time on that, right |
| 12:58 |
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zenog |
szabgab: Wikimedia commons also has some: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Butterfly |
| 12:58 |
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szabgab |
but we will probably restart maintaining it |
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marcela |
szabgab: thanks |
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zenog |
szabgab: plus those: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w[…]egory:Butterflies |
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zenog |
szabgab: I would also volunteer to turn some of them into suitable splash screen images ;-) |
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szabgab |
so let's first see what the Debian folks say, what else is there that is not within their license |
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szabgab |
and also talk to Alias who was the great proponent of the current splash screen |
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szabgab |
I'd really like to be within the same licensing terms as Debian |
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szabgab |
to make it easier for both Debian and Fedora and other folks |
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zenog |
szabgab: Of couse, I don't want to step on anyone's toes here ... |
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szabgab |
neither do I, and I am heavier than most of you I think... |
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Alias |
I wanted to change splash screens every release |
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Alias |
If we could find suitable material |
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Alias |
The reason we have split splash screens was so that we could use stuff from Flickr on our main splash |
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zenog |
Alias: There are some links above (flickr and MediaWiki), all under reasonably free licensing terms. |
| 13:21 |
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Alias |
Because without Flickr the number of images of Blue Morphos is both limited and not very good |
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Alias |
zenog: None of those are our butterfly |
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zenog |
Alias: So it should be a certain species? |
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Alias |
Blue Morpho |
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Alias |
(Any of the 5 variants in a pinch) |
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Alias |
Anything that's CC-NC is fine |
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Alias |
But NOT for Debian |
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Alias |
Thus, split splash |
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zenog |
Alias: We could use this one for a particularly unstable version of Padre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]pho_underside.jpg |
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Alias |
I thought we had some other decent photos pre-saved somewhere |
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Alias |
Is there are artwork "distro" in the repo? |
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Alias |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/i[…]cours/2975723359/ |
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zenog |
Alias: Problem with NC is that it would forbid e.g. the inclusion of Padre on a magazine CD. |
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Alias |
\Yes, there is that |
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Alias |
oooo |
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Alias |
That search you posted was WITH commercial use |
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Alias |
That would explain why it found so few things |
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zenog |
Yes. |
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zenog |
Here is a public domain picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]cal_butterfly.jpg |
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Alias |
And ugly one though |
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Alias |
Lots of damage |
| 13:29 |
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zenog |
Here are others: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Morpho_peleides |
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zenog |
Wikimedia Commons content should be safe license-wise. |
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zenog |
Is there a particular reason why the blue morpho was chosen as the Padre butterfly? |
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Alias |
Because it's pretty |
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Alias |
And enormous |
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Alias |
And the alternative was a religious theme, and we all agreed that was a bad idea |
| 13:31 |
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Alias |
The basic logic goes "Butterfly == Freedom == Hacking your own editor in your own language" |
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Alias |
Beyond that, it was a little influenced by http://strawberryperl.com/ |
| 13:32 |
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Alias |
Of having something that doesn't "feel nerdy" |
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Alias |
Although I'm still somewhat dissapointed about our website |
| 13:33 |
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zenog |
Okay. |
| 13:34 |
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zenog |
The splash screen isn't the logo, right? |
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Alias |
Correct |
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Alias |
The logo is based off a very specific image that is usable by everyone |
| 13:34 |
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Alias |
It just doesn't look very good above about 100x100 pixels |
| 13:34 |
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zenog |
If we would allow us more freedom, e.g. to pick any species of butterfly for the splash screen, we would have a greater choice of suitable (license-wise and quality-wise) images for the splash screen. |
| 13:35 |
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Alias |
Yup, but unfortunately, other butterflies suck |
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Alias |
:) |
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zenog |
And we would have a nice (and rather easy) change from version to version. |
| 13:35 |
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zenog |
hehe ;-) |
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Alias |
That irridescent blue is what really gives it that Pretty edge |
| 13:35 |
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zenog |
That is right, though. |
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Alias |
There's really nothing else that compares, and I've looked for hours |
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Alias |
butterflyparadise.com |
| 13:36 |
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Alias |
(They have allowed us to use their images for non-commercial purposes) |
| 13:36 |
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Alias |
But again, they aren't usable in Debian, or on T-Shirts etc |
| 13:36 |
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Alias |
Just splash and website |
| 13:46 |
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zenog |
There are still some blue morphos on flickr which allow commercial use and modification: http://www.flickr.com/search/?[…]=all&adv=1#page=0 |
| 13:46 |
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zenog |
Can't judge on the quality, though. |
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danlucraft1 |
Alias: this made me laugh, thanks: "Butterfly == Freedom == Hacking your own editor" |
| 13:51 |
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Alias |
danlucraft, you agree though yes? |
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danlucraft |
oh yeah! |
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danlucraft |
I like the changing splash screen idea too. |
| 13:51 |
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danlucraft |
Like the gimp |
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zenog |
danlucraft: Yeah, the gimp does that, too. |
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Alias |
danlucraft, that was the idea |
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Alias |
Unfortunately, it turned out to take more work than we expected to make the first one :) |
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Alias |
Like, 3-4 hours |
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danlucraft |
ah :) |
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Alias |
The problem is the bloody paperwork |
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Alias |
(I kid you not) |
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danlucraft |
you mean, licenses and so on? |
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Alias |
Every digital asset we use that isn't created directly by us needs to be validated as legal, and then documented inside the Padre README files |
| 13:57 |
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danlucraft |
sheesh |
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Alias |
The Debian guys are paranoid about that stuff |
| 13:57 |
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danlucraft |
really? interesting |
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Alias |
We get pestering questions if there's a single file we haven't accounted for |
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Alias |
They care greatly about legal purity |
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szabgab |
and it is good, so we don't have to :-) |
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Sewi |
Does anybody know a butterfly fan who might be able to create pictures himself? Or donate existing ones? :) |
| 14:07 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: Yes, I added collection of usage data to the popreport plugin but we stalled on how_to_inform_the_user and should_we_change_collection and how_to_store_the_data and when_to_send... |
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szabgab |
so start by always collecting some usage info and prompt the user if we can send this data |
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Sewi |
Do you run mod_perl on the server? Do you want to have it in a SQL db? |
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szabgab |
I do run mod_perl but the code should be able to run as plain CGI as well |
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szabgab |
I don't know yet |
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szabgab |
I guess we should start with an sqlite database |
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Sewi |
ok |
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Sewi |
Hi leprevost |
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szabgab |
our brazilian friends almost disappeared... |
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Sewi |
Rename the channel to #Padre.sdl and they'll be back :-) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11264 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11264 |
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Hyppolit |
fixed two typos in the Hacking manual |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Manual/ |
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zenog |
hi jjore pece patspam |
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zenog |
hi GabrielVieira |
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GabrielVieira |
hello zenog! |
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jjore |
Hi? |
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GabrielVieira |
Hi you too |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11265 | mattp++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11265 |
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Hyppolit |
updated documentation |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/configSrv/lib/ trunk/configSrv/lib/configSrv/Controller/ |
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jagd |
hi |
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jagd |
what means "find_quick" ? i did not see any implentation for it |
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mattp |
/win 1 |
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jagd |
does the checkbox "find_quick" indicate to show/hide Search-Toolbar at bottom of the editor? |
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zenog |
jagd: I don't what it does, either ... |
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jagd |
zenog: :) |
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zenog |
zenog: The search interface is a bit confusing. |
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zenog |
Ah, now I am talking to myself. I should go home & away from a computer. |
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jagd |
:D |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11266 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11266 |
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Hyppolit |
adjust & update zh-CN translation (>99%) |
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Hyppolit |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11267 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11267 |
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Hyppolit |
adjust zh-CN translation |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11268 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11268 |
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Hyppolit |
resolve Ticket #588 and change (un)comment-style with indent |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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Hyppolit |
#588: Toggle comment fails to work with \s+# in the first line (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ket/588#comment:1 ] |
