Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

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05:20 szabgab gm
05:20 szabgab Alias, what are these test commits?
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05:56 Alias__ szabgab: What are these what?
05:56 Alias__ The branch stuff?
05:56 Alias__ Or something else actually /t/ related?
05:56 Alias__ ooohh
05:57 Alias__ The test commits are me having problems with svn clients and login/passwords
05:57 Alias__ That only happen on commit, and not on update
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06:23 Sewi gm
06:27 Alias__ hi
06:28 * Alias__ is about a third of the way through Task 2.0
06:28 Alias__ And making good progress
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06:46 szabgab https://openhatch.org/+projects/Padre
06:48 szabgab I still don't understand why is this openhatch interesting
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06:57 Alias__ OpenHatch was founded in May 2009 by three alumni of the free culture and free software movements. The company was part of startup incubator Shotput Ventures‘ inaugural class.  Our core product is an open source software involvement engine. For developers, we provide tools to demonstrate and broaden their experience and expertise in the open source community.
06:58 Alias__ They list two "Alumni" already... people that no longer are involved... only 9 months after starting
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07:00 azawawi good morning
07:01 Sewi hi azawawi
07:04 Hyppolit svn: r11254 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11254
07:04 Hyppolit add some more blog posts
07:04 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
07:05 szabgab Alias, so 2 of the alumni are now alumni**2
07:05 szabgab Alias, so 2 of the 3 alumni are now alumni**2
07:15 * azawawi reads p5p rss feed now everyday :)
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07:27 szabgab daxim,  https://openhatch.org/+projects/Padre
07:28 azawawi szabgab: interesting discussion in http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com/2010​/03/unpaid-volunteer-work-is-job.html :)
07:28 szabgab I saw that
07:29 szabgab I am not really sure what to think
07:31 azawawi frankly he removes the -Ofun out of FOSS :)
07:33 szabgab I did not have that feeling
07:34 azawawi szabgab: i found a couple of =head1 warranty  in our codebase
07:34 azawawi szabgab: "There is no warranty whatsoever." :)
07:35 azawawi szabgab: "If you lose data or your hair because of this program, that's your problem. "
07:35 azawawi :)
07:35 szabgab :-)
07:35 azawawi szabgab: it is only in Simple.pm and Beginner.pm
07:36 szabgab I don't even see it in Beginner
07:37 azawawi szabgab: line 362
07:37 szabgab ah warranty
07:37 szabgab but not the hair thing
07:37 azawawi szabgab: the other one Simple.pm
07:38 szabgab we can remove those , we have the disclaimer of warranty in Padre.pm
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07:39 szabgab also the copyright is incorrect in the pod of Simple.pm
07:39 * azawawi removing
07:39 szabgab as it say my name instead of the Padre team
07:41 Hyppolit svn: r11255 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11255
07:41 Hyppolit POD changes: removed warranty section and updated copyright
07:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Wx/Perl/Dialog/
07:43 azawawi we may need a test for =head LICENSE
07:43 azawawi i.e. =head1 LICENSE
07:44 szabgab there are some tests checking for the copyright at the bottom of the files, use that test file
07:45 azawawi will do
07:45 azawawi but for fun only :)
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08:09 Hyppolit svn: r11256 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11256
08:09 Hyppolit add a static wherefrom.html page and change the reporting to submit the information there
08:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/perlide.org/popularity/v1/ trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/
08:10 szabgab Sewi, the wherefrom was changed and it is now working
08:14 azawawi szabgab: do we need to check for copyright in POD *and* # comment  ?
08:15 szabgab probably we should always have it in the # comment
08:15 szabgab and in some files we should also have it in the pod
08:16 azawawi szabgab: but disallow =head1 COPYRIGHT|LICENSE$ alone?
08:17 waxhead evening everyone..
08:17 szabgab after acking for    ack =head1 | grep -i copyright I am not sure
08:17 waxhead are we ready for a reelase tonight?
08:18 szabgab waxhead, I think so
08:19 waxhead OK, just testing RELEASE_TESTING now
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08:19 szabgab azawawi, probably copyright and license *should* be separate entries but we don't need to enforce that in every file
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08:20 azawawi szabgab: then im going to delay that change after the release
08:21 azawawi szabgab: since a lot of files need to be fixed
08:25 Sewi szabgab: Cool, thanks. Now we need to process this numbers and show it somewhere
08:26 waxhead szabgab, what about the translations page?  Is that still off line, so to speak?
08:26 azawawi waxhead: hi, when is the 0.59 release due?
08:26 Sewi azawawi: -26 minutes from now :-)
08:26 waxhead I'll start at 2100 here, so that's about an hour and a half
08:27 szabgab waxhead, let me try to fix that too now
08:27 waxhead Sewi, daylight savings time.. you lost an hour.. :)
08:27 Sewi waxhead: oops, sorry :-)
08:29 azawawi Sewi: that long. oh well i'll wait :)
08:29 waxhead -90mins
08:30 Sewi waxhead: 90 mins from now. I was using your 10:00 in the wrong timezone, it's 10:30 here now...
08:30 waxhead 1000 UTC... that should be 2100 here... :)
08:32 waxhead great job on the test fixes!!!!
08:32 waxhead this will be the first time RELEASE_TESTING passed before a release..
08:32 szabgab :)
08:33 Sewi cool, IE is crashing here due to website errors - on "about:blank" :-)
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08:35 azawawi which IE version?
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08:41 Sewi 8.0
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09:49 waxhead final call before release..
09:49 waxhead or is everyone waiting for it?
09:57 Hyppolit svn: r11257 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11257
09:57 Hyppolit Update for release 0.59.
09:57 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
09:59 Hyppolit svn: r11258 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11258
09:59 Hyppolit Tidy project for release 0.59.
09:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ trunk/Padre/lib/Wx/Perl/ trunk/Padre/xt/
10:01 Hyppolit svn: r11259 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11259
10:01 Hyppolit Version bump to 0.59.
10:01 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DocBrowser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/QuickFix/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/
10:10 daxim who does the cpan release?
10:12 waxhead me while I hold the job of relelase manage
10:12 waxhead release even
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10:19 Hyppolit svn: r11260 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11260
10:19 Hyppolit Bump version number to 0.03
10:19 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Staff/ trunk/Perl-Staff/lib/Perl/
10:19 * Sewi releasing...
10:21 Hyppolit svn: r11261 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11261
10:21 Hyppolit Updated Changes
10:21 Hyppolit trunk/Perl-Staff/
10:21 Sewi Uploaded to CPAN, enjoy it :-)
10:22 Sewi waxhead: Which was your cpan nick?
10:23 waxhead plaven
10:24 Sewi Thanks, you're now co-maint for Perl::Staff
10:28 waxhead thanks...  I think...
10:28 Sewi Getty: What about adding a Hyppolit trigger for :: Module names showing a link to CPAN?
10:31 waxhead hmmm... this is weird...
10:35 waxhead why does make disttest get run by setting DIS
10:35 waxhead PLAY=0 ?
10:35 waxhead and then the tests fail because it doesn't have a DISPLAY variable set...
10:38 waxhead Sewi, what is Perl::Staff for?
10:41 Sewi You don't know Perl::Staff???
10:43 waxhead not really...
10:43 Sewi This ist Perl::Staff http://cebit.perl-magazin.d​e/images/event/DSC_0339.JPG
10:43 waxhead seen mention ofi t
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10:43 waxhead ha.. yeah, seen that pic too.. is that you and gabor?
10:43 Sewi http://search.cpan.org/~sewi/Perl-St​aff-0.02/lib/Perl/Staff.pm#SYNOPSIS
10:43 waxhead Sewi, just did your survey
10:43 Sewi Getty and me :-)
10:44 szabgab sz?
10:44 Hyppolit sz is http://www.flickr.com/photos/szbalint/3812328050/
10:44 Sewi My survey? You mean the where-did-you-hear-about-Padre thing?
10:44 szabgab waxhead, that's me
10:45 waxhead yep.. just finished building 0.59 and did a pip of the test file... I'm running release again now with --tag so you'll see it tagged shortly...
10:45 Sewi szab: sorry for releasing soo late :-(
10:45 Hyppolit svn: r11262 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11262
10:45 Hyppolit tag Padre-0.59
10:45 Hyppolit tags/
10:45 waxhead szabgab, that you in the blue?
10:45 waxhead oh.. back to work...
10:46 szabgab waxhead, yeah, the blue shirt is me
10:49 waxhead ok.. test/pip  http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pa​dre-release/Padre-0.59.tar.gz
10:52 szbalint szabgab: I heard you're going to come to the QA hackathon :)
10:54 waxhead hmm... odd errors in the install testing...
10:55 szabgab szbalint, indeed
10:56 szabgab and I am just researching buying an n900
10:56 szabgab but will you szbalint also be there?
10:57 szbalint Sadly no. I wanted to come, but it clashes with elections in .hu
10:57 waxhead szabgab, really??? I've been thinking about nan n900
10:57 szbalint but I guess you'll meet stemes :)
10:57 waxhead OK, installs fine on Ubnuntu and Vista
10:57 szabgab waxhead, szbalint has an n900 so we should ask him how is it?
10:57 waxhead szbalint, what do you think of the n900?
10:58 szbalint I'm satisfied so far :)
10:58 szabgab I wanted to hack on it during the hackathon
10:58 szbalint I've had it since january
10:58 waxhead otherwise I'll think I'll get a nexus one
10:58 waxhead the google andriod phone...
10:58 waxhead looks nice enough
10:58 szbalint It has perl out of the box
10:58 szbalint xterm
10:58 waxhead szbalint, so you're getting the feel for it now...
10:58 waxhead yeah, the perl would be for the debian based management wouldn't it?
10:59 szbalint yep
10:59 szbalint it's 5.8.4 I think
10:59 waxhead szbalint, it looks nice enough, I follow the maemo planet to see what's happening there... but I have to say after the e71 I'm a bit over nokias
11:00 szbalint I used my n900 as a remote to drive mplayer running on my laptop connected to the tv with a hdmi cable, to stream a movie from my fileserver via sshfs
11:00 szbalint the day before yesterday
11:01 szbalint that's about the maximum complexity level I've reached so far :)
11:01 waxhead hahaha.. true geekness
11:01 waxhead i've read plenty of good things about the n900...
11:01 szabgab 0.59 installed fine on my ubuntu
11:02 waxhead the 3g isn't supported for the main carried here in .au though.
11:02 waxhead release it then?
11:02 szabgab yes, go ahead
11:02 szbalint The only thing I don't like is the ~24-48h battery life depending on use, however that's a smartphone problem. I'm just not used to it since my previous phone wasn't one and it lasted 1-2 weeks
11:02 waxhead szabgab, I'm still thinking about tagging it 'stablish' and on the way to being stable... it still exits with running thread errors...
11:03 szbalint but I can live with putting it on the charger :)
11:03 waxhead szbalint, jeezz... 1.2weeks.... yeah, the functionality comes at a cost... but not a major one if you can get a full day... it's a pain if your phone dies during the day though
11:03 szabgab I just saw a wireless charger for iphone...
11:04 waxhead I have a bridge too if you want to buy one of those.. :)
11:04 szbalint yeah, it must be one of those $999 apps from the store
11:04 szbalint damn the store, (apt-get)++
11:05 waxhead oh.. should we delete the old versions of padre in my directory on cpan?
11:06 Sewi waxhead: 0.56 was stable... keeping 0.55 should be enough?
11:08 szabgab keep the "stable one"
11:08 szabgab and a few others
11:08 szabgab as it turns out the problem of CPAN is not the size as one would have though but the number of files
11:09 szabgab so keeping a few versions of a large distro is less of a problem than keeping many versions of a small distro
11:09 waxhead ok... I'll just keep them there and start removing a version for every new one after this...
11:09 waxhead ok.. that's done.. just need to do up the release announcement...
11:10 waxhead oh.. of course..
11:10 waxhead one more thing
11:13 Topic for #padreis now Latest Padre is 0.59, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001
11:13 Sewi :-)
11:13 waxhead now it's done.. apart from the release announcement..
11:14 waxhead commit away!! :)
11:14 waxhead oh.. did the translations page get fixed up?
11:14 waxhead why not run it from a cron.. say 4 times a day?
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11:43 szabgab that's the plan
11:43 szabgab I just need to get it done
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11:47 szabgab waxhead, our last "stable" version was 0.56, right ?
11:48 waxhead szabgab, yep.. 57 and 58 were clearly marked as unstable.. in terms of the relelase announcement and in the changes file
11:48 waxhead I guess we are now stable, but with some rough edges
11:50 szabgab so I recommended 0.56 for Debian inclusion
11:50 szabgab we'll see if this is really stable or if we can improve on it in the next release
11:50 szabgab and if that is still on time for Debian to include
11:51 waxhead szabgab, I don't see that we were in a truely unstable state.. ie eat your code unstable, but we did have some issues in 0.57 and Adam did a great job figuring things out and making this release less problematic.
11:52 waxhead it will be interesting to see how he goes iwth the task changes he's working on in his branch
11:52 daxim wow, nagscreen
11:52 daxim D-:
11:53 waxhead I think we're going to see reports from people with some of the unclean exiting...
11:53 Sewi yes
11:53 Sewi What about adding a standalone to Debian instead of the Perl module?
11:54 szabgab what do you mean Sewi ?
11:55 daxim holy shit, a keybinding editor!
11:56 waxhead daxim, you haven't noticed azawawi's commits?
11:56 Sewi Debian clearly has a problem with versions and Padre requires very new versions of many dependencies. If we'd add the files to /usr/share/Padre and use a /usr/bin/padre start script, Padre could have it's dependencies while Debian system perl could use old versions.
11:58 szabgab I'd rather not get into that
11:58 szabgab let the Debian maintainers figure out the best way to package Perl on Debian, they are the experts
11:58 szabgab s/Perl/Padre/
12:00 daxim I can save you the trouble:  they aren't going to package it officially unless development speed goes way down
12:00 daxim your best bet is to have a friendly debian user/packager supply an unofficial repo
12:02 waxhead wasn't someone saying the build scripts for a debian package of padre could get sorted out and if so, we could build .deb's and host it on perlide.org couldn't we?
12:02 daxim exactly
12:02 waxhead hmm I think it was in the dev list.. zenog mentioned it
12:10 Steffen Sewi: Just a quick note. Your suggestion runs afoul of the debian policy not to package the same code multiple times. They really mean it.
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12:17 waxhead hey zenog... 0.59 is now out... go mad committing changes.. :)
12:26 zenog waxhead: Cool.
12:27 zenog I guess I will do some stuff on Friday. Need to focus on research - paper deadline in two weeks ...
12:27 zenog waxhead: Are there already release notes?
12:29 waxhead zenog, I have a terrible habit of doing the release and then writing the release announcement...
12:29 waxhead which is quite late here, and I'm normally rather tired...
12:29 waxhead just finished the post... it should appear on blogs.padre.perlide.org some time soon..
12:30 waxhead or you can go here
12:30 waxhead http://perlwannabe.vox.com/library/p​ost/padre-059-has-been-released.html
12:36 Hyppolit svn: r11263 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11263
12:36 Hyppolit updated links for release announcement
12:36 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
12:36 waxhead right time for bed
12:36 waxhead night all
12:36 Sewi gn8 sleep well :-)
12:37 zenog good night waxhead, thank you for managing the releases!
12:49 zenog szabgab: You wrote on the mailing list that the splash screen is under a non-free license. Couldn't we contact the copyright holder and ask for a free license for the picture?
12:50 szabgab I sent her e-mails several times but have not received any reply
12:50 szabgab you are welcome to try again
12:52 zenog hm okay
12:55 szabgab Sewi, as I recall you wanted to work on the usage data collection of Padre
12:55 szabgab so maybe you can give it a try now
12:57 marcela szabgab: hello, do you still maintain Task-Padre-Plugin-Deps?
12:57 zenog szabgab: Another thing we could try - release every version of Padre with a new butterfly splash screen.
12:57 szabgab marcela, that does not seem to be updated nowdays
12:57 zenog flickr gives those: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=butterfly&am​p;l=commderiv&ct=0&mt=all&adv=1
12:57 marcela szabgab: so it's uselles now? and I can close review for it?
12:58 szabgab actually Id'd rather change the splash screen so the Debian folks won't need to remove it
12:58 szabgab marcela, right now you should not spend time on that, right
12:58 zenog szabgab: Wikimedia commons also has some: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Butterfly
12:58 szabgab but we will probably restart maintaining it
12:58 marcela szabgab: thanks
12:59 zenog szabgab: plus those: http://commons.wikimedia.or​g/wiki/Category:Butterflies
13:05 zenog szabgab: I would also volunteer to turn some of them into suitable splash screen images ;-)
13:11 szabgab so let's first see what the Debian folks say, what else is there that is not within their license
13:11 szabgab and also talk to Alias who was the great proponent of the current splash screen
13:12 szabgab I'd really like to be within the same licensing terms as Debian
13:12 szabgab to make it easier for both Debian and Fedora and other folks
13:15 zenog szabgab: Of couse, I don't want to step on anyone's toes here ...
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13:19 szabgab neither do I, and I am heavier than most of you I think...
13:20 Alias I wanted to change splash screens every release
13:20 Alias If we could find suitable material
13:21 Alias The reason we have split splash screens was so that we could use stuff from Flickr on our main splash
13:21 zenog Alias: There are some links above (flickr and MediaWiki), all under reasonably free licensing terms.
13:21 Alias Because without Flickr the number of images of Blue Morphos is both limited and not very good
13:21 Alias zenog: None of those are our butterfly
13:21 zenog Alias: So it should be a certain species?
13:22 Alias Blue Morpho
13:22 Alias (Any of the 5 variants in a pinch)
13:22 Alias Anything that's CC-NC is fine
13:22 Alias But NOT for Debian
13:22 Alias Thus, split splash
13:23 zenog Alias: We could use this one for a particularly unstable version of Padre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F​ile:Blue_Morpho_underside.jpg
13:23 Alias I thought we had some other decent photos pre-saved somewhere
13:23 Alias Is there are artwork "distro" in the repo?
13:25 Alias http://www.flickr.com/photos​/israelrlecours/2975723359/
13:25 zenog Alias: Problem with NC is that it would forbid e.g. the inclusion of Padre on a magazine CD.
13:27 Alias \Yes, there is that
13:27 Alias oooo
13:27 Alias That search you posted was WITH commercial use
13:27 Alias That would explain why it found so few things
13:28 zenog Yes.
13:28 zenog Here is a public domain picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki​/File:Tropical_butterfly.jpg
13:28 Alias And ugly one though
13:28 Alias Lots of damage
13:29 zenog Here are others: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Morpho_peleides
13:29 zenog Wikimedia Commons content should be safe license-wise.
13:30 zenog Is there a particular reason why the blue morpho was chosen as the Padre butterfly?
13:30 Alias Because it's pretty
13:30 Alias And enormous
13:31 Alias And the alternative was a religious theme, and we all agreed that was a bad idea
13:31 Alias The basic logic goes "Butterfly == Freedom == Hacking your own editor in your own language"
13:31 Alias Beyond that, it was a little influenced by http://strawberryperl.com/
13:32 Alias Of having something that doesn't "feel nerdy"
13:32 Alias Although I'm still somewhat dissapointed about our website
13:33 zenog Okay.
13:34 zenog The splash screen isn't the logo, right?
13:34 Alias Correct
13:34 Alias The logo is based off a very specific image that is usable by everyone
13:34 Alias It just doesn't look very good above about 100x100 pixels
13:34 zenog If we would allow us more freedom, e.g. to pick any species of butterfly for the splash screen, we would have a greater choice of suitable (license-wise and quality-wise) images for the splash screen.
13:35 Alias Yup, but unfortunately, other butterflies suck
13:35 Alias :)
13:35 zenog And we would have a nice (and rather easy) change from version to version.
13:35 zenog hehe ;-)
13:35 Alias That irridescent blue is what really gives it that Pretty edge
13:35 zenog That is right, though.
13:35 Alias There's really nothing else that compares, and I've looked for hours
13:35 Alias butterflyparadise.com
13:36 Alias (They have allowed us to use their images for non-commercial purposes)
13:36 Alias But again, they aren't usable in Debian, or on T-Shirts etc
13:36 Alias Just splash and website
13:46 zenog There are still some blue morphos on flickr which allow commercial use and modification: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=blue+morpho&​l=commderiv&ct=0&mt=all&adv=1#page=0
13:46 zenog Can't judge on the quality, though.
13:50 danlucraft1 Alias: this made me laugh, thanks: "Butterfly == Freedom == Hacking your own editor"
13:51 Alias danlucraft, you agree though yes?
13:51 danlucraft oh yeah!
13:51 danlucraft I like the changing splash screen idea too.
13:51 danlucraft Like the gimp
13:55 zenog danlucraft: Yeah, the gimp does that, too.
13:55 Alias danlucraft, that was the idea
13:56 Alias Unfortunately, it turned out to take more work than we expected to make the first one :)
13:56 Alias Like, 3-4 hours
13:56 danlucraft ah :)
13:56 Alias The problem is the bloody paperwork
13:56 Alias (I kid you not)
13:57 danlucraft you mean, licenses and so on?
13:57 Alias Every digital asset we use that isn't created directly by us needs to be validated as legal, and then documented inside the Padre README files
13:57 danlucraft sheesh
13:57 Alias The Debian guys are paranoid about that stuff
13:57 danlucraft really? interesting
13:58 Alias We get pestering questions if there's a single file we haven't accounted for
13:58 Alias They care greatly about legal purity
14:00 szabgab and it is good, so we don't have to :-)
14:07 Sewi Does anybody know a butterfly fan who might be able to create pictures himself? Or donate existing ones? :)
14:07 Sewi szabgab: Yes, I added collection of usage data to the popreport plugin but we stalled on how_to_inform_the_user and should_we_change_collection and how_to_store_the_data and when_to_send...
14:16 szabgab so start by always collecting some usage info and prompt the user if we can send this data
14:17 Sewi Do you run mod_perl on the server? Do you want to have it in a SQL db?
14:19 szabgab I do run mod_perl but the code should be able to run as plain CGI as well
14:20 szabgab I don't know yet
14:20 szabgab I guess we should start with an sqlite database
14:22 Sewi ok
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14:28 Sewi Hi leprevost
14:37 szabgab our brazilian friends almost disappeared...
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14:47 Sewi Rename the channel to #Padre.sdl and they'll be back :-)
14:53 Hyppolit svn: r11264 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11264
14:53 Hyppolit fixed two typos in the Hacking manual
14:53 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Manual/
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15:44 zenog hi jjore pece patspam
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16:48 zenog hi GabrielVieira
16:52 GabrielVieira hello zenog!
16:56 jjore Hi?
16:57 GabrielVieira Hi you too
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18:09 Hyppolit svn: r11265 | mattp++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11265
18:09 Hyppolit updated documentation
18:09 Hyppolit trunk/configSrv/lib/ trunk/configSrv/lib/configSrv/Controller/
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18:49 jagd hi
18:50 jagd what means "find_quick" ? i did not see any implentation for it
18:51 mattp /win 1
18:56 jagd does the checkbox "find_quick" indicate to show/hide  Search-Toolbar at bottom of the editor?
19:12 zenog jagd: I don't what it does, either ...
19:13 jagd zenog: :)
19:14 zenog zenog: The search interface is a bit confusing.
19:14 zenog Ah, now I am talking to myself. I should go home & away from a computer.
19:20 jagd :D
19:58 Hyppolit svn: r11266 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11266
19:58 Hyppolit adjust & update zh-CN translation (>99%)
19:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
20:05 Hyppolit svn: r11267 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11267
20:05 Hyppolit adjust zh-CN translation
20:05 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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22:29 Hyppolit svn: r11268 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11268
22:29 Hyppolit resolve Ticket #588 and change (un)comment-style with indent
22:29 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
22:35 Hyppolit #588: Toggle comment fails to work with \s+# in the first line (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/588#comment:1 ]

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