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* waxhead |
is installing Padre on a clean system |
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waxhead |
ok, clean install requires Class::Adaptor, which isn't installed on a clean system... |
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waxhead |
I'll let it build to see if it fails |
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waxhead |
I can confirm that on a clean install that Class::Adaptor::Builder is missing |
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waxhead |
so... where has it gone?? :) |
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azawawi |
good morning |
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waxhead |
hey aza |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11312 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11312 |
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Hyppolit |
Added a Changes file |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-SQL/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11313 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11313 |
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Hyppolit |
more clean up of code |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-SQL/lib/Padre/Plugin/SQL/ |
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perlBoy |
hello everyone! |
| 10:15 |
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perlBoy |
I have been using Perl for quite some time now.. |
| 10:15 |
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perlBoy |
I'd like to know more about Padre.... |
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perlBoy |
can anyone assist me? |
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szabgabx |
sure |
| 10:16 |
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szabgabx |
what can we help? |
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perlBoy |
just some question.. |
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perlBoy |
can I use a specific version of Perl in Padre? |
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perlBoy |
i.e ActiveState Perl |
| 10:17 |
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szabgabx |
for running Padre? |
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chorny |
IMHO, most simple is to install Padre in that version |
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szabgabx |
or to run your code edited in Padre? |
| 10:17 |
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perlBoy |
active state Perl for Padre. |
| 10:17 |
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szabgabx |
fr running padre you need 5.8.7 at least |
| 10:18 |
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szabgabx |
there is a ppm package |
| 10:18 |
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perlBoy |
I'd be using 5.8.9 |
| 10:18 |
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szabgabx |
you can install on ActivePerl on Windows |
| 10:18 |
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perlBoy |
on windows |
| 10:18 |
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szabgabx |
I am not sure if there is a ppm package for that |
| 10:18 |
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szabgabx |
but you can install the stand alone padre |
| 10:18 |
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perlBoy |
nice. |
| 10:18 |
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szabgabx |
and then configure it to use your active perl to be used for syntax checking |
| 10:18 |
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perlBoy |
will that work with active state 5.8.9? |
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szabgabx |
and running your code |
| 10:19 |
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perlBoy |
awesome! |
| 10:19 |
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perlBoy |
how do I do that.. |
| 10:19 |
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szabgabx |
it does not care what is the other perl |
| 10:19 |
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perlBoy |
I'm still downloading Padre. |
| 10:19 |
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szabgabx |
first install and follow the instructions on the download page to fix that stupid bug we have |
| 10:19 |
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perlBoy |
stupid bug? |
| 10:19 |
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szabgabx |
and better upgrade to the latest padre from cpan |
| 10:19 |
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perlBoy |
the one on the site? |
| 10:19 |
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waxhead |
what stupid bug? |
| 10:20 |
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waxhead |
szabgabx, how's vienna? |
| 10:20 |
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szabgabx |
see the warning on stand alone padre http://padre.perlide.org/download.html |
| 10:20 |
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perlBoy |
yeah saw that.. |
| 10:20 |
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szabgabx |
among other things it prevents you from upgrading padre |
| 10:21 |
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szabgabx |
Vienna is fine |
| 10:21 |
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szabgabx |
beer is good |
| 10:21 |
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szabgabx |
people are nice |
| 10:21 |
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waxhead |
szabgabx, what RDBMS do you normally have installed on your laptop? |
| 10:21 |
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szabgabx |
but I have not sold any Padre licenses yet :-) |
| 10:21 |
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szabgabx |
I have sqlite, Pg and maybe even mysql |
| 10:21 |
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szabgabx |
I am not sure |
| 10:22 |
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waxhead |
szabgabx, ./dev.pl -a and try out the SQL plugin.. it only does Pg at the moment... |
| 10:22 |
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szabgabx |
ok, I'll try later |
| 10:22 |
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waxhead |
cool... |
| 10:22 |
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waxhead |
lots of work still needs to be done... |
| 10:22 |
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waxhead |
nearly all your code is redundant... |
| 10:23 |
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waxhead |
so the next lot of work will be to start pulling out all the code that isn't used |
| 10:23 |
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szabgabx |
that's good to hear :-) |
| 10:23 |
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szabgabx |
I am playing with perl on Android now |
| 10:23 |
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perlBoy |
You guys are awesome! |
| 10:23 |
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szabgabx |
so let me go back to that now |
| 10:23 |
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waxhead |
and then start doing the DBD connection stuff.. which shouldn't be too hard.. |
| 10:23 |
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waxhead |
szabgabx, you get an andriod phone? |
| 10:24 |
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szabgabx |
it is not a phone |
| 10:24 |
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waxhead |
what is it? |
| 10:24 |
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szabgabx |
Archos internet tablet 5 |
| 10:24 |
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waxhead |
tablet? |
| 10:24 |
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szabgabx |
5 inch |
| 10:24 |
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waxhead |
like the ipad? |
| 10:24 |
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waxhead |
smaller than the ipad? |
| 10:24 |
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perlBoy |
another question, the installation setup prompted Strawberry Perl plus Padre. |
| 10:24 |
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szabgabx |
smaller |
| 10:24 |
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perlBoy |
did I get the right installer? |
| 10:24 |
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szabgabx |
perlBoy, yes |
| 10:24 |
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waxhead |
perlBoy, doesn't sound like it... did you get the MSI file? |
| 10:25 |
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perlBoy |
yup. |
| 10:25 |
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waxhead |
perlBoy, well ignore me then.. :) |
| 10:25 |
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waxhead |
I need to setup my windows VM some day... |
| 10:25 |
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waxhead |
to better test... |
| 10:25 |
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waxhead |
but mostly I only use strawberry these days.. I like the CPAN client being able to install and compile cpan modules.. |
| 10:25 |
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perlBoy |
I clicked: The Padre Standalone package link. |
| 10:25 |
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perlBoy |
same here. |
| 10:26 |
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perlBoy |
I prefer Perl from CPAN. |
| 10:26 |
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waxhead |
if you're using strawberry, you will be able to installed Padre from the cpan client |
| 10:26 |
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perlBoy |
but I'm trying out Active state right now. |
| 10:26 |
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waxhead |
don't bother |
| 10:26 |
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waxhead |
:) |
| 10:26 |
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perlBoy |
that's why I'm looking for an IDE for activestate Perl |
| 10:26 |
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waxhead |
unless you have a compelling reason to do so... |
| 10:27 |
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waxhead |
komodo is their IDE, but it's big a bloated... |
| 10:27 |
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waxhead |
does a lot of stuff though |
| 10:27 |
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perlBoy |
I need to run single my compiler to be single threaded. |
| 10:27 |
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perlBoy |
I use the "compile -d" command in linux. |
| 10:27 |
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perlBoy |
and so far I'm able to run the same code in ActiveState Perl 5.8.9 |
| 10:28 |
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perlBoy |
but not on 5.10 |
| 10:28 |
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perlBoy |
and I'm also afraid that it might not run on strawberry Perl. |
| 10:29 |
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perlBoy |
Is there a Padre installer that will allow me to use a specific version of Perl instead of Strawberry Perl in Windows? |
| 10:29 |
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szabgabx |
nope |
| 10:30 |
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perlBoy |
awww... |
| 10:30 |
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szabgabx |
you can of course install padre from source on any perl |
| 10:30 |
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perlBoy |
how do i do that? |
| 10:30 |
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szabgabx |
just launch your cpan client and type install Padre |
| 10:30 |
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szabgabx |
"just" I mean :-) |
| 10:31 |
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perlBoy |
ok. |
| 10:31 |
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perlBoy |
I'm gonna try that. |
| 10:31 |
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perlBoy |
your really nice! |
| 10:31 |
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perlBoy |
thanks! |
| 10:31 |
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szabgabx |
you are welcome :-) |
| 10:32 |
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perlBoy |
I'm proceeding with the installation right now. |
| 10:33 |
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perlBoy |
where is the CPAN client located in the Padre? |
| 10:33 |
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szabgabx |
it is in perl not in padre |
| 10:33 |
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perlBoy |
ooops. |
| 10:33 |
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szabgabx |
well, padre has a GUI for it but it is not really working I think |
| 10:33 |
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perlBoy |
ouch. |
| 10:34 |
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perlBoy |
:s |
| 10:34 |
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perlBoy |
I saw the plugin already. |
| 10:34 |
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perlBoy |
hope that it works. |
| 10:35 |
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perlBoy |
:) |
| 10:54 |
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waxhead |
is there a Padre->main? |
| 10:58 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11314 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11314 |
| 10:58 |
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Hyppolit |
Error dialog when a connection fails for some reason. |
| 10:58 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-SQL/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-SQL/lib/Padre/Plugin/SQL/ |
| 11:02 |
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perlBoy |
strawberry perl just crashed... |
| 11:03 |
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perlBoy |
I really need to revert to either CPAN or Activestate... |
| 11:03 |
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perlBoy |
thank you so much for the assistance szabgabx! |
| 11:04 |
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szabgabx |
you are welcome |
| 11:05 |
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perlBoy |
you rock! |
| 11:10 |
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perlBoy |
I think I'd enjoy using Padre but It only supports Strawberry Perl for windows. |
| 11:12 |
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perlBoy |
hope that there's a way around it.. |
| 11:13 |
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perlBoy |
proably in the future. |
| 11:13 |
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perlBoy |
*probably. |
| 11:14 |
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szabgabx |
? |
| 11:14 |
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szabgabx |
what do you mean by supports? |
| 11:14 |
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perlBoy |
It will be very cool if users can select the version of Perl to be used with Padre |
| 11:14 |
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perlBoy |
Strawberry Per keeps on crashing. |
| 11:16 |
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szabgabx |
when? |
| 11:17 |
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Steffen |
perlBoy, okay, two corrections: Padre has no inherent connection to Strawberry Perl. |
| 11:17 |
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Steffen |
Second: The crashing is most certainly not Strawberry's fault but some module that Padre uses (or Padre itself). |
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perlBoy |
yeah I'm aware of that. |
| 11:31 |
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perlBoy |
unfortunately, there's no way for me to use a different version of Perl in Padre. |
| 11:31 |
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perlBoy |
except for Strawberry. |
| 11:31 |
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perlBoy |
btw. I got the installer for the website. |
| 11:31 |
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perlBoy |
will it be possible to change the behavior of Padre? |
| 11:32 |
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perlBoy |
so that It will use a different version of Perl... |
| 11:33 |
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perlBoy |
coz the script that I'm working on works perfectly with other version of Perl. |
| 11:33 |
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perlBoy |
I started the script using linux. |
| 11:35 |
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waxhead |
perlBoy, can you run the script from the command line OK? |
| 11:36 |
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perlBoy |
yup! |
| 11:36 |
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perlBoy |
not working using strawberry. |
| 11:36 |
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perlBoy |
it's working with Perl from CPAN and ActiveState |
| 11:37 |
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waxhead |
perlBoy, in the Tools/Preferences dialog go to Run Parameters and put in the full path to the perl executable you want to run |
| 11:39 |
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perlBoy |
Tools? |
| 11:39 |
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perlBoy |
Only have "File" "Edit" "Search" "View" ... |
| 11:39 |
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perlBoy |
not seeing any Tools in the menu. |
| 11:39 |
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perlBoy |
is it a submenu? |
| 11:40 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11315 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11315 |
| 11:40 |
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Hyppolit |
mysql connections work. |
| 11:40 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-SQL/ |
| 11:40 |
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waxhead |
perlBoy, no Tools menu? |
| 11:40 |
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waxhead |
what version of Padre do you have? |
| 11:40 |
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perlBoy |
none. |
| 11:41 |
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perlBoy |
0.56 |
| 11:41 |
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waxhead |
what does padre think your script is? |
| 11:41 |
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waxhead |
check the status bar at the bottom, do it think it's a perl file? |
| 11:42 |
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perlBoy |
Padre is able to load the file and recognize it as a perl script. |
| 11:42 |
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perlBoy |
document type Padre::Document::Perl |
| 11:43 |
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waxhead |
hmm odd that you don't have all the menus |
| 11:43 |
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waxhead |
close Padre and start it again |
| 11:43 |
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perlBoy |
I just had it form the site. |
| 11:43 |
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waxhead |
don't open your script |
| 11:43 |
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perlBoy |
will do. |
| 11:43 |
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waxhead |
I'm just trying to remember when the preferences got moved to Tools... |
| 11:43 |
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perlBoy |
hmmm.... |
| 11:44 |
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waxhead |
start Padre again, do you see a tools menu? |
| 11:44 |
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perlBoy |
same menus |
| 11:44 |
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perlBoy |
now that you've mention it... |
| 11:44 |
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waxhead |
have a look in Edit.. it used to be in there.. maybe 0.56 still had it there |
| 11:44 |
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perlBoy |
it is really weird not to have that option. |
| 11:44 |
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waxhead |
the option to have all your menus? |
| 11:45 |
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waxhead |
how many versions of perl do you have installed? |
| 11:45 |
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perlBoy |
I've got CPAN 5.8 |
| 11:45 |
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waxhead |
from the command prompt type in perl --version |
| 11:45 |
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perlBoy |
ActiveState 5.9 |
| 11:45 |
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perlBoy |
and strawberry |
| 11:45 |
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perlBoy |
3 versions. |
| 11:45 |
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waxhead |
yike... |
| 11:45 |
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waxhead |
are they all 'self contained' ? |
| 11:45 |
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perlBoy |
yup! |
| 11:46 |
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perlBoy |
I made some modifications with perl |
| 11:46 |
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waxhead |
do can you end up in the situation that you get mixed libraries in common directorties? |
| 11:46 |
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perlBoy |
nope. |
| 11:46 |
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perlBoy |
all of them are in different folders. |
| 11:46 |
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perlBoy |
totally independent. |
| 11:46 |
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waxhead |
sure? |
| 11:46 |
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perlBoy |
100% |
| 11:46 |
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waxhead |
you don't end up with dll's in say system or system32 directory? |
| 11:46 |
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perlBoy |
none of those. |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
I generally only have the one version of perl installed on windows |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
ok.. so what's the default perl that gets run? |
| 11:47 |
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perlBoy |
what versions do you use? |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
I'm lazy.. strawberry perl |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
so simple |
| 11:47 |
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perlBoy |
the default that I'm using is active state. |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
when a new one comes out I uninstall and install the new one, then re-add everything using the cpan client |
| 11:48 |
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perlBoy |
but I also use CPAN from time to time. |
| 11:48 |
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waxhead |
when you say you use CPAN, do you mean you build the source perl? |
| 11:48 |
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perlBoy |
not for windows |
| 11:48 |
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perlBoy |
but I do it for my linux box. |
| 11:49 |
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waxhead |
do you mean you use the cpan client to install perl modules? |
| 11:49 |
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perlBoy |
ah. |
| 11:49 |
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perlBoy |
yup! |
| 11:49 |
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waxhead |
right, with Activestate Perl, you use PPM |
| 11:50 |
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waxhead |
with strawberry perl you use the cpan client, because strawberry perl is really good to you and provides you with a full build environment that allows you to instally nearly all cpan modules |
| 11:50 |
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waxhead |
and you do that using the cpan client |
| 11:51 |
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waxhead |
with activestate you use their ppm installer which runs off to the ppm repoes to get the PRE-compiled perl modules |
| 11:51 |
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waxhead |
because with windows you don't get the C build tools you do with linux.. ie make gcc etc |
| 11:51 |
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waxhead |
unless you use something like cygwin, which I never have |
| 11:52 |
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perlBoy |
yeah... |
| 11:52 |
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perlBoy |
I'd like to do the same thing with Padre. |
| 11:52 |
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waxhead |
so if you have strawberry perl, the best way to install Padre is simply to use the cpan client let it resolve all the depandancies and compile all the c and c++ bits for you |
| 11:53 |
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waxhead |
otherwise, the stand alone one should work.. but I've never tried it.. always installed Padre with the cpan client |
| 11:53 |
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waxhead |
perlBoy, given the mess things seem to be in, I'd suggest uninstalling activestate and strawberry perl |
| 11:53 |
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waxhead |
then install the version of strawberry perl you want/need |
| 11:54 |
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waxhead |
then at the command prompt use the cpan client |
| 11:54 |
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waxhead |
is, cpan |
| 11:54 |
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waxhead |
s/is/ie/ |
| 11:54 |
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waxhead |
it will ask you about how to set itself up.. accept the defaults... it's been a while since I've used windows |
| 11:54 |
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waxhead |
once it's setup you have the cpan prompt and you type: install Padre |
| 11:55 |
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perlBoy |
I'd give that a try. |
| 11:55 |
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perlBoy |
thanks man! |
| 11:55 |
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waxhead |
hmm... although there is a slight issue with a dependacy on Class::Adapter::Builder not being on CPAN.... |
| 11:55 |
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waxhead |
still waiting to hear from Alias about it... |
| 11:55 |
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waxhead |
maybe hold off for a bit with the cpan install .. |
| 11:55 |
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perlBoy |
ok. |
| 11:56 |
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waxhead |
check back tomorrow night... Adam should be around and we might know why that module is no longer on cpan... |
| 11:57 |
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perlBoy |
cool! |
| 11:57 |
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waxhead |
perlBoy, yep... seems that a certain module has gone missing from cpan... |
| 11:58 |
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perlBoy |
thanks so much man! |
| 11:58 |
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waxhead |
just have to wait for Adam to sort it out... sorry about that |
| 11:58 |
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perlBoy |
I'd definitely be back here. |
| 11:58 |
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perlBoy |
you guys are awesome! |
| 11:58 |
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waxhead |
however once it's sorted out, it's fairly painless on windows with strawberry perl to install using the cpan client... |
| 11:59 |
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perlBoy |
cool! hopefully I'd get my way around this issue. |
| 12:07 |
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Hyppolit |
#917: ORLite v1.42 don't install (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]mment:description.1 ] |
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waxhead |
you will.. plenty of people are using Padre on windows... |
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waxhead |
but I can't really quantify "plenty"... :) |
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waxhead |
right, time for bed.. |
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waxhead |
nite |
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perlBoy |
nite! |
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perlBoy |
thanks again! |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11316 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11316 |
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Hyppolit |
Updates messages.pot |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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svn: r11317 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11317 |
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Hyppolit |
Fixed some bad translation and added some |
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trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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svn: r11318 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11318 |
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Perl tidy |
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trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Util/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/t/ |
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