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Hyppolit |
svn: r11332 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11332 |
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Hyppolit |
Adding basic startup/shutdown test for worker objects |
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Hyppolit |
branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/t/threads/ |
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Alias |
Sno|Laptop: I'm reasonably certain that we can split off the slave mastering mechanism as a standalone module |
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Alias |
Sno|Laptop: Because the way the code is trending, in the new model it will be EXCEPTIONALLY stupid |
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Alias |
Sno|Laptop: I think I can keep all of the smarts inside the main thread |
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Alias |
Oh wait, maybe not |
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hrm |
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Sno|Laptop |
g'd morning Alias |
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Sno|Laptop |
Alias: I'm currently think about what features the task manager must have |
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Sno|Laptop |
Alias: in the project where I've written the originally source, a simple select(2) loop has done it |
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Sno|Laptop |
and after the select loop, a walk over all task members in {running} and poll() them |
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Sno|Laptop |
and yesterday I took a look to Forks::Super (to see if it would fit my requirements or see what could be a nice idea to support, too) |
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Sewi |
gm |
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Sno|Laptop |
moin sewi |
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waxhead |
has anyone tested Padre on 5.12 ? |
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Sno|Laptop |
CSJewell wanted to do |
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Sewi |
szab did it, I think |
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waxhead |
if you build your own perl, will it find all the installed perl modules? |
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daxim |
do you mean installed earlier? |
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daxim |
http://search.cpan.org/dist/pe[…]_versions_of_Perl |
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daxim |
I recommend to disable inclusion of older compatible versions. it bloats @INC for no good advantage |
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daxim |
you can make a cpan autobundle snapshot before and install this bundle with the new cpan client |
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waxhead |
daxim, thanks.. I'll take a look.. I'm thinking I'll have a go at building the new 5.12 release and testing Padre on it... |
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waxhead |
but having never done such a thing.... it's a big... hmmmm |
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daxim |
5.12 is binary incompatible with what you have now |
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daxim |
so it will never include old modules |
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daxim |
you are supposed to review the Install file and pick the Configure shell script arguments you need, and/or answer a lot of questions during Configure time |
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daxim |
to bootstrap you, have a look at the ones I used before and adapt this to your needs: |
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shadowpaste |
"daxim" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "sh Configure arguments I used for compiling 5.10" (1 line) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/42191 |
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waxhead |
oh... |
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waxhead |
so how do you go about testing Padre with 5.12? |
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waxhead |
I have a VM I'm happy to sacrifice |
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daxim |
shortest way is to compile 5.12, then install Padre from cpan |
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waxhead |
daxim, ok.. so I don't need to worry about currently installed modules? |
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goes looking for a clean ubuntu image |
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Sewi |
daxim: Seems you already installed 5.12, did you try Padre on it? |
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waxhead |
Hmm... I'm cloning an image now... I'll see how much pain I can put myself through :) |
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waxhead |
I was reading that configure asks you all of this... should I just go through the process of answering the questions? |
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daxim |
if you know what each item means, yes |
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daxim |
the important stuff comes first, and everything is autodetected anyway where possible |
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daxim |
so when you get tired, use the shortcut the Configure script teaches you in the beginning |
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waxhead |
you mean the -&d ? |
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waxhead |
or should I just use yours? |
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daxim |
yes, I mean the -&d |
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daxim |
you should research first each argument before using it, so: no, don't "just" use it |
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waxhead |
daxim, granted..however when you just want to try it.. :) |
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waxhead |
I can recompile it later anyway can't I? |
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daxim |
yes. also, everything will be self-contained under -Dprefix, so you can nuke that to clean up |
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waxhead |
cool! |
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waxhead |
just going to take a snapshot and I'll give it a crack.. :) |
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waxhead |
it's building, time to read.. :) |
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Sno|Laptop: Regarding select loops |
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Sno|Laptop: One of the requirements is that the task system must tolerate tasks blocking, and must be able to consume more than one CPU |
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waxhead |
ok... dumb questions time... |
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waxhead |
do I need to make the symlinks for /usr/bin/perl to point tot he newly built one? |
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Sno|Laptop |
Alias: I designed it (last time) that way, that it orders the job in a heap and gave select() a timeout of the shortest wish |
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daxim |
no |
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daxim |
besides, if you wanted that, you should have told Configure to do it |
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waxhead |
daxim, ok... |
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waxhead |
so with getting parde tested, do I use cpan to install it? |
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waxhead |
I'll go google |
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daxim |
yes, cpan |
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waxhead |
man, I'm having an INXS fest!! some really good songs... |
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waxhead |
won't it pick up the instsalled perl though? |
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daxim |
I already answered that earlier: no |
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Sno|Laptop |
Alias: if you want block, you needed to call the task-manager's main loop without timeout, then unlimited (-1) was assumed |
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waxhead |
but perl --version shows 5.10 |
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waxhead |
of course when I cd to the installed perl I get 5.12 |
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daxim |
and /home/waxhead/local/bin/perl --version shows 5.12 |
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waxhead |
that's right... |
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daxim |
and? |
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waxhead |
so I install Padre normally and then /home/pete/perl/local/bin/perl padre ? |
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daxim |
if you install Padre normally, you'll get a script named padre whose shebang line was automatically adapted to the location of perl 5.12 |
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daxim |
have a look at the executables that are already installed in the bin directory |
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looks |
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waxhead |
well.. I'll give it a go... |
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waxhead |
thanks |
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waxhead |
daxim, nope.. padre was installed with /usr/bin/perl in the shebang line |
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daxim |
how did you install it, exactly? |
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waxhead |
cpan |
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daxim |
and cpan is where? |
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waxhead |
/usr/bin |
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waxhead |
sigh.. |
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waxhead |
I think I get it now |
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waxhead |
I should have used the cpan in my home dir |
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waxhead |
crap.. |
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waxhead |
it's a mess now! |
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waxhead |
ok.. lesson learnt |
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waxhead |
it's too late to start again.. will have to do it tomorrow night now... |
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waxhead |
night |
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daxim |
from #perl-qa: |
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daxim |
[15:28] <Tux> is mattia barbon somewhere on IRC? |
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El_Che |
http://arstechnica.com/open-so[…]-512-released.ars |
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daxim |
http://developers.slashdot.org[…]t-Every-Developer |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11333 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11333 |
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Hyppolit |
update zh-cn chinese |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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Hyppolit |
#848: Tidy plugin leaves blocking grey box (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ket/848#comment:1 ] |
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Sewi |
ping szabgab |
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Hyppolit |
#411: configurable key bindings (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ket/411#comment:4 ] |