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IRC log for #padre, 2010-04-20

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03:48 Sewi gm
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05:27 rindolf Hi all. Seems like "Kishor" could not install Padre on a Mac here: http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/pipe​rmail/perldl/2010-April/005149.html .
05:27 rindolf szabgab: here?
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05:54 Alias_ I'm seeing lots of errors for Wx on Mac
06:11 rindolf Alias_: ah.
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06:37 Alias_ (If it's not Wx failing we're interested though)
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07:37 rindolf Alias_: did Apple break compatibility?
07:37 Alias_ I dunno
07:37 Alias_ That would be expected, but rare
07:37 Alias_ Take a look at the CPAN Testers results, you're more likely to recognise the issue than me
07:38 Alias_ I only have one shitty old G3 I keep for compat-testing File::HomeDir
07:38 rindolf Alias_: I'm not using Apple.
07:38 Alias_ I barely boots
07:38 Alias_ It
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07:40 rindolf Hmmm... 30 FAILs.
07:41 rindolf http://www.cpantesters.org/distro/W/Wx.html#Wx-0.9701 - Mac OS X is all failures.
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08:05 waxhead wow.. things are quiet on all fronts...
08:06 rindolf Hi waxhead
08:06 rindolf waxhead: what's up?
08:06 waxhead nothing
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08:50 jq hey guys. when will padre 0.60 be released?
09:03 waxhead jq, when do you want it?
09:06 jq not too late.
09:06 jq 0.59 has a bug in a test which prevented me from shipping it in mandriva
09:06 jq (i had no time to apply a patch)
09:06 jq it has been fixed by sewi
09:07 jq i could remove the test step in the package building, but that's always bad to that
09:07 jq (what if i forget to reenable tests afterwards?)
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09:24 waxhead jq, I can run out a release tonight if you like...
09:26 jq that'd be nice
09:26 waxhead looking at the changes file it's pretty decent...
09:26 waxhead ok then.. I'll get started..
09:30 waxhead jq,  what was the bug fix?
09:33 Hyppolit svn: r11365 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11365
09:33 Hyppolit Update for release 0.60
09:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
09:34 jq waxhead: it is not mentionned in changes
09:34 waxhead jq, no it's not... normally it would be..
09:34 jq it was "just" a test requiring a display and not testing for it first
09:34 waxhead ok..
09:35 Hyppolit svn: r11366 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11366
09:35 Hyppolit Tidy Project for release 0.60
09:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/t/
09:38 Hyppolit svn: r11367 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11367
09:38 Hyppolit Version bump to 0.60
09:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DocBrowser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/QuickFix/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/
10:01 waxhead jq, tests are failing on install
10:01 waxhead szabgab, ping
10:02 waxhead ping... ping... ping..ping...ing....ing..ng..ng....
10:03 shadowpaste "waxhead" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "failing tests on install" (32 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/42457
10:06 waxhead oh.. hang on.. that shell has RELEASE_TESTING set...
10:06 waxhead I'll try again
10:08 waxhead That was it!!!
10:08 waxhead installed fine..
10:08 waxhead release 0.60 is about to be delivered...
10:09 waxhead jq, will you be willing to do a test install using pip?
10:11 jq not pip, but give me the url
10:11 waxhead jq, shortly, still building... the test one worked on ubuntu fine for me... I have a vitsa workstation I can test on too...
10:13 Hyppolit svn: r11368 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11368
10:13 Hyppolit tag Padre-0.60
10:13 Hyppolit tags/
10:13 waxhead there it is...
10:14 waxhead it's testing only...
10:14 waxhead if it passes for you, I'll put it up to cpan
10:14 * waxhead runs off to test install on windows
10:17 jq it works
10:26 waxhead jq, what os?
10:27 waxhead windows couldn't be tested.. missing test::mockobject and had heaps of problems getting stuff instsalled... I'll have to skip windows testing tonight.
10:27 jq mandriva linux
10:27 waxhead I'll upload it to pause now
10:31 waxhead ok.. 0.60 is now packaged up as a release, it's hit pause, trac has been updated...
10:31 waxhead oh... one more thing
10:31 waxhead well two
10:33 Topic for #padreis now Latest Padre is 0.60, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001
10:34 Sewi waxhead++
10:35 dam jq: in case it helps, debian package fakes a display via xvfb-run
10:35 dam (during package build)
10:36 dam waxhead: now that was a quick release!
10:36 waxhead dam, how so?  It's nearly 3 weeks since the last one...
10:36 waxhead what we have is a release done with no warning... not my usual style..
10:37 waxhead but heck, when you have a package maintainer wanting to see it out, one has to do what they can to accomodate them.. :)
10:37 waxhead I have the easy job...
10:37 waxhead and I've been putting it off a bit too long...
10:38 waxhead my apologies to translators and anyone else who likes to be warned about a release...
10:42 jq dam: i used to use a fake display with xvfb-run too
10:42 jq but it proved failing even worse with display detection
10:42 dam waxhead: judging from IRC log it took you only ~1hr to prepare the rease. This is what I meant, not the time spent since 0.59
10:42 waxhead dam, I'm getting better at it these days... :)
10:43 waxhead dam, I think my first ones would take me nearly 3 hours... I'd start at 9pm here and head to bed some time after midnight
10:43 dam jq: strange. works here. there is a trick - add '-a' to xvfb-run arguments so that it picks a free port for the X display, avoiding clashes with any other xvfb-run instances that may be running in parallel
10:43 dam waxhead: :)
10:43 waxhead much of the work gets done with the scripts... release.pl mostly...
10:44 waxhead I also now have virtual box setup with a vm to test and install with.. I just need to get a vista image sorted out, but for now I use the main family workstation.. being the only windows box we have these days
10:45 waxhead dam, I'd say the release announcement is probably the most taxing part of the release... you know trying to be creative but informative in the blog post... :)
10:48 waxhead dam, are you the one doing the debian package?
10:51 dam waxhead: I am
10:58 waxhead cool... gets facts semi striahgt
10:58 waxhead download?
10:58 Hyppolit download is http://padre.perlide.org/download.html
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11:05 Hyppolit svn: r11369 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11369
11:05 Hyppolit Added link to 0.60 release announcement.
11:05 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
11:05 waxhead and that is a wrap!!! :)
11:05 waxhead I'm fairly sure I haven't missed anything...
11:14 waxhead Padre is getting bigger... 0.51: 1,127,094 => 0.60: 1,386,606
11:21 rindolf waxhead: didn't it get more features?
11:21 waxhead rindolf, in this release?
11:21 waxhead doesn't look like it..
11:21 waxhead I take most of the info from the Changes file
11:21 rindolf waxhead: no, I meant from 0.51 to 0.60?
11:21 rindolf waxhead: no, I meant from 0.51 to 0.60.
11:21 waxhead oh..
11:21 waxhead yes...
11:21 waxhead quite a lot
11:21 rindolf waxhead: ah.
11:21 waxhead I'm guessing...
11:21 waxhead :)
11:22 rindolf waxhead: then those features require more code.
11:22 rindolf bug-fixes sometimes too.
11:22 waxhead of course.. :)
11:22 rindolf waxhead: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Optimizing_Code_​for_Speed#Optimizing_by_Reducing_Feature-Set
11:22 rindolf waxhead: (I wrote it, though, so...)
11:23 waxhead makes sense
11:24 waxhead szabgab, any chance you could fix the translation status report.... please?
11:25 waxhead :)
11:34 rindolf waxhead: are you Peter Lavender?
11:34 waxhead yep
11:34 waxhead when I'm not waxhead
11:35 waxhead :)
11:36 rindolf waxhead: ah.
11:36 waxhead I'm the one who caused you grief with the release announcements and your work with freshmeat...
11:37 rindolf waxhead: yes, I remember.
11:37 rindolf waxhead: I caused you some grief myself apparently.
11:37 rindolf Though I had good intentions.
11:37 waxhead put it down to a misunderstanding...
11:37 rindolf I'll wait until Padre-0.60 hits CPAN and then I'll announce it.
11:37 rindolf Would be a chance for me to go over the FM front-page.
11:38 waxhead cool...
11:39 rindolf I discovered this there last time, and it looks very interesting: http://freshmeat.net/projects/sappeur-compiler
11:40 waxhead no screen shot for Padre on FM?
11:40 rindolf waxhead: we can add one.
11:41 waxhead get a screen shot of Padre with Main.pm and syntax highlighted with the doc stats dialog :)
11:42 waxhead hmmm even better.. get a screen shot from Alias.. apparently he has just a few tabs open at one time..
11:42 rindolf waxhead: there's one here - http://perl-begin.org/IDEs-and-tools/#padre
11:42 waxhead rindolf, nice enough!!!
11:43 waxhead shows the syntax checker offering assistance...
11:43 rindolf waxhead: it's partially in German , though.
11:43 rindolf At least the left part is.
11:43 waxhead true...
11:43 rindolf But the menus are in English.
11:43 waxhead shows translation....
11:43 waxhead I think zenog has does a bit to get alot of Padre translated...
11:44 waxhead just waiting on the report to generate to see where the %ages are..
11:44 rindolf waxhead: is he the German translator?
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11:44 waxhead rindolf, one of them I suspect
11:44 waxhead Sewi,  is the other one
11:44 waxhead de is 100%
11:45 rindolf waxhead: ah.
11:45 waxhead there's a translation report that gets run, but it's not up to date on the padre site
11:45 waxhead shows where languages are
11:46 waxhead I ran it locally to see what things look like
11:46 waxhead tr  and zh-cn are also very close to 100%
11:47 waxhead man I hate it when you have a song you really like, but have no idea what it's called..
11:48 Sewi waxhead: Someone build a service where you could sing a part of it and it tries to detect which song it is.
11:48 waxhead Sewi, yeah I heard the iphone has something you can hold up to the radio or what ever and it works it out
11:48 waxhead neat.. if you have an iphone and aren't driving at the time
11:49 waxhead which is where I hear most of my music
11:49 Sewi :-)
11:51 rindolf Sewi: I've seen some melodical lookup engines.
11:51 rindolf But you need to enter the notes yourself.
11:52 waxhead right time for bed...
11:52 waxhead night
11:54 rindolf My friend is now trying to adapt his site to MSIE 6 (and make sure it still validates and works on other browsers) so it will be accessible to some potential customers. I told him he can might as well install some malware through the browser, and extract money directly out of their online bank accounts.
11:54 * rindolf rubs his hands evilly
12:00 danlucraft waxhead: Shazam
12:00 rindolf danlucraft: he logged out.
12:00 danlucraft Sewi: Shazam!
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14:12 dam jq: I lied. deban package uses no xvfb-run to enable tests requiring display as xvfb emits warnings about missing XRANDR X extension and these warnings make Test::NoWarnings to fail
14:13 jq dam: there you are :-)
14:25 dam hm, but 0.60 still has tests that fail without DISPLAY?
14:26 dam like t/01-load.t :/
14:27 dam no
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14:37 dam that was an error in the helper script I use for building. DISPLAY remains set (since I run all this under X), but later connections aren't possible as the build runs in a chroot
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14:52 dam ayee! padre-0.60.deb on its way to the mirrors
14:53 Sewi great
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17:50 Hyppolit svn: r11370 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11370
17:50 Hyppolit update simplified-chinese translation
17:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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